future-proofing graphics authoring for maximal accessibility

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Steven Clontz

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Sep 21, 2023, 6:23:13 PM9/21/23
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I regret that I will miss tomorrow's office hours which includes the discussion on tacticle graphics for Active Prelude to Calculus, so maybe this question is duplicative with planned discussions there.

But our team at http://library.tbil.org is considering a clean-up of our graphics to use a consistent choice for authoring: e.g. make everything TikZ, or everything SagePlot, etc.

What I want to know is which investment has the maximal potential for accessibility? E.g. how can we author things so they're most likely in the future (if not now) able to be converted to audio or tactile representations?

Rob Beezer

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Sep 21, 2023, 6:26:41 PM9/21/23
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David Austin is well along on an XML/PreTeXt-y graphics language, with
accessibility as a key feature.
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Steven Clontz

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Sep 21, 2023, 6:38:24 PM9/21/23
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Yup, that's what I'm thinking of. But is it ready for production, or is there a timeline where it will be? And if not, what's the safest choice that's ready for production that has the potential to be converted to that language down the road, or the next-best thing?

Rob Beezer

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Sep 21, 2023, 6:43:20 PM9/21/23
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I'm not privy to any sort of timeline. (And having deadlines really wouldn't be
very PreTeXt-y either. ;-) )

If I were going to beef-up and redo the diagrams in my linear algebra text I'd
use Asymptote.

Converting anything to David's project won't be easy - perhaps Asymptote is the
most sane.

Rob

On 9/21/23 15:38, Steven Clontz wrote:
> Yup, that's what I'm thinking of. But is it ready for production, or is there a
> timeline where it will be? And if not, what's the safest choice that's ready for
> production that has the potential to be converted to that language down the
> road, or the next-best thing?
>
> On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 5:26:41 PM UTC-5 Rob Beezer wrote:
>
> David Austin is well along on an XML/PreTeXt-y graphics language, with
> accessibility as a key feature.
>
> On 9/21/23 15:23, Steven Clontz wrote:
> > I regret that I will miss tomorrow's office hours which includes the
> discussion
> > on tacticle graphics for Active Prelude to Calculus, so maybe this
> question is
> > duplicative with planned discussions there.
> >
> > But our team at http://library.tbil.org <http://library.tbil.org> is
> considering a clean-up of our
> > graphics to use a consistent choice for authoring: e.g. make everything
> TikZ, or
> > everything SagePlot, etc.
> >
> > What I want to know is which investment has the maximal potential for
> > accessibility? E.g. how can we author things so they're most likely in the
> > future (if not now) able to be converted to audio or tactile
> representations?
> >
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David Austin

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Sep 21, 2023, 9:29:00 PM9/21/23
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I won't be ready for a public release before April.  I've learned a lot from illustrating Active Prelude, but there's quite a bit of work left to make it more generally usable, and I'm busy with the academic year right now.

If you end up using something like asymptote, you could think about imposing a uniform structure on your code so that a script could detect components like axes, graphs, vectors, points, and so forth.  Those could be used to create XML elements and possibly automate a lot of the conversion.

David

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