Samar Minallah: On whose agenda is trying to sabotage peace accord?

[Dr Shahid Qureshi]

Samar Minallah: On whose agenda is trying to sabotage peace accord?

By: Earthman, International Professor

Why a five six month old incidence of flogging a woman has been publicized by Samar Minallah, and later widely circulated around the world. It is learnt that recording from a phone camera of above event was sold to international brokers, a lottery for Samar Minallah to earn hundred thousand dollars and free publicity.

Punishment to woman was Islamic or non-Islamic; it is duty of courts and clergy to comment on the matter. Distribution and publicity of above event on such a large scale around the world have political ambitions rather human rights or women protection concerns. If you may pick today’s newspaper the statements of a particular group is witness that this political drama is based on sectarian abhorrence.

Minallah family is known crony of Mush and poses as die heart lover of Bhutto and Peoples Party. In the present circumstances when Athar Minallah played a role in restoration of Chief Justice, there he and Aitzaz Ahsan were responsible for sending CJ to the Zardari house, which was widely criticized throughout Pakistan. It is presumed that Hamid Mir of GEO TV is aware of whole conspiracy to sabotage Swat peace agreement, and he widely publicized such matter on Capital talk TV show.

It is assumed that some peoples want to disrupt peace agreement of Swat area, as it is in final course of action and lying on the table of Zardari for signature. Moreover since American’s have announcement 1.5 billion annual stipends; briskness of expected beneficiaries is on highest altitude to pose them warriors or crusaders, who are dictating Pak army to rejoin civil war.

In the last few months and in recent days a lot of human rights abuses have been reported by media but Samar Minallah did not bothered to came forward and comment on any of events such as:

1.   Israr ullah Zehri appointed as minister in PPP’s government

2.   Mir Hazar Khan Bajarani appointed as Minister of Education by PPP.

3.   Abdul Qayyum Jatoi was caught red handed at Cat House Islamabad, later appointed as minister by PPP.

4.   Altaf Hussain kicked out his wife from his home; later goons of MQM deprived her from rights and legal proceedings.

5.   Legislation has been passed in Afghanistan denying right of Shia women by Hamid Karazai.

6.   Pak army has brutally murdered hundred of women and children’s with the help of air strikes and canons at Swat and FATA areas.

7.   NATO is regularly killing women and children’s with the help of drone attacks.

8.   Hundreds of girls of Jamia Hafsa were brutally murdered, kidnapped and humiliated by Pakistan army.

9.   Pak army, Frontier Forces still have occupied dozens of schools in war torn areas, but no one has courage to point out that why security forces are sitting in schools. And whenever Taliban attacks on those schools then a different picture is presented.

10.  At Peshawar today anybody can visit and see “Heera Mandi Street”, no Taliban or Al Qaida ever attacked there nor did Samar Minallah ever help prostitutes to adopt any other profession. NWFP has largest market of male Prostitutes as well; titles of some of the sex business are so vulgar that peoples avoid quoting them. Crying on the name of Women protection is a political drama or means to receive aid from overseas countries. 

11.  There are so many hue and cries for polio vaccination, question is why Mush awarded such contracts to Agha Khanis, and same as whole education system was handed over to Agha Khan School Board. All privatized tourism hotels have been awarded to them and even 99.9% five star hotels is owned by that group.  On other hand Karakoram State and Agha Khan State is in pipe line. That was the only reason that Idi Amin kicked them out from Uganda.

All above are a few examples excluding Aafia Siddiqui case and many women who have been involved in terrorism related cases by agencies? In the month of March Zardari was involved in allowing security agencies to jump in to homes with the help of ladders to crush lawyer’s movement. It is on record that security agencies brutally humiliated protesters including women during entire movement of restoration of justice.

Athar Minallah who was crony of Mush and minister in his cabinet want to fail ANP government for the sake of making room for PPP, question is why Minallah family now abruptly started to broadcast on TV channels that Swat peace agreement has been failed and condition is for worst then civil war times? Additionally Army should continue to fight in those areas and so many other pessimistic theories could be witnessed on TV channels and papers.

Nasr Minallah who served Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto as a civil servant later he was ill-treated by General Zia ul Haq due to his contacts with Bhutto. After death his wife Bilqis became MNA.  Both have four children’s Athar, Fauzia, Akmal and Samar. Their close relatives, justice Safdar Shah was the Supreme Court judge who wrote a judgment declaring Bhutto innocent of the crime for which he was ultimately hanged (a 4 to 3 majority vote in the Supreme Court).

Athar Minallah poses that he is a lover of Z A Bhutto but why he worked as a Minister in Mush Government. His storey of participation in lawyer’s movement is well known. Samar Minallah is his sister who claimed to be living at Swat since last two years but neither Taliban touched her or Al Qaeda.

There is a strong group of Afghan Northern alliance at Islamabad, who has established an Aryana Institute for Regional Research and Advocacy (AIRRA) at Islamabad funded by anti-Pakistan quarters. Their major aims and ambitions include keeping busy Pakistan army in civil war. Majority of communists and cronies of India and Russia are sitting at Islamabad for spying on Pakistan. Its office is established in a large palace at a posh area of Islamabad. Farhat Taj Andersen is their spokes person, who is a Christian convert and based at Oslo. She is a great friend of Jang group and Salman Taseer media group who usually publish her poisonous sermons based on hatred and fascist theories.

Peoples are watching helplessly to observe manoeuvres of politicians, army and bureaucracy. Those were asked to pray for peace during civil war. Now when peace has returned to the area anarchists, fascists and groups surviving on the stipend of imperialists are trying hard to interrupt whole peace process. Restoration of judiciary which left a soft impression on global level has now been tactfully sabotaged by Samar Minallah. The video she has sold to overseas agencies is continuously running on all leading channels around globe.

It is certainly move of Mush or Zardari, who are behind Samar Minallah.

 

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[Syed Ehtisham]

Dear Dr Qureshi, Please do not try to distract attention from the issue. Whatever your gripe with Samar Minallah, please keep it between yourselves. For whatever reason Samar Minallah did or did not draw attention to other HR issues  you have referred to does not, in any way mitigate the gravity of the outrage of flogging a girl. It is not just for the court and the clergy to comment on the matter. Every one has a right and duty to condemn a barbaric act. Ehtisham Dr. Syed Ehtisham (607) 776-3336 Blog syedehtisham.blogspot.com Feudalism, militarism, fundamentalism and bureaucrats constitute the evil Quad in Pakistan. --- On Sat, 4/4/09, Dr Shahid Qureshi <ukcorre...@hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Dr Shahid Qureshi <ukcorre...@hotmail.com> Subject: Samar Minallah: On whose agenda is trying to sabotage peace accord? To: paka...@googlegroups.com, pakistanpe...@yahoogroups.com, paka...@gmail.com, pakm...@yahoogroups.com, paf_op...@yahoogroups.com, kashmiraf...@yahoogroups.com, pakpot...@googlegroups.com, muslims...@yahoogroups.com, ansar....@gmail.com, "Saeed Abbasi Ummat" <saeeda...@gmail.com>, asif...@gmail.com, pressme...@gmail.com, pressp...@googlegroups.com, "political officer" <aisha.f...@phclondon.org>, azhar...@geo.tv, "MITHO FAISAL" <faisa...@yahoo.com>, "Dr Bouthaina Shaaban" <b.sh...@mopa.gov.sy>, "Dr Bushra ICS" <bush...@yahoo.com>, "Bdesh" <bhcl...@btconnect.com>, "Iqbal Sandhu Iqbal Sandhu" <iqbalsa...@yahoo.co.uk>, "Hamid Mir" <hami...@geo.tv>, li...@presstv.ir, "Al - Hayat News Paper" <infor...@alhayat.com>, "Hoda Heshmati Press TV" <hesh...@presstv.ir>, "Mustafa Aljizraa" <sou...@btconnect.com> Date: Saturday, April 4, 2009, 11:12 AM

Samar Minallah: On whose agenda is trying to sabotage peace accord? By: Earthman, International Professor Why a five six month old incidence of flogging a woman has been publicized by Samar Minallah, and later widely circulated around the world. It is learnt that recording from a phone camera of above event was sold to international brokers, a lottery for Samar Minallah to earn hundred thousand dollars and free publicity. Punishment to woman was Islamic or non-Islamic; it is duty of courts and clergy to comment on the matter. Distribution and publicity of above event on such a large scale around the world have political ambitions rather human rights or women protection concerns. If you may pick today’s newspaper the statements of a particular group is witness that this political drama is based on sectarian abhorrence.

Minallah family is known crony of Mush and poses as die heart lover of Bhutto and Peoples Party. In the present circumstances when Athar Minallah played a role in restoration of Chief Justice, there he and Aitzaz Ahsan were responsible for sending CJ to the Zardari house, which was widely criticized throughout Pakistan . It is presumed that Hamid Mir of GEO TV is aware of whole conspiracy to sabotage Swat peace agreement, and he widely publicized such matter on Capital talk TV show.

It is assumed that some peoples want to disrupt peace agreement of Swat area, as it is in final course of action and lying on the table of Zardari for signature. Moreover since American’s have announcement 1.5 billion annual stipends; briskness of expected beneficiaries is on highest altitude to pose them warriors or crusaders, who are dictating Pak army to rejoin civil war. In the last few months and in recent days a lot of human rights abuses have been reported by media but Samar Minallah did not bothered to came forward and comment on any of events such as: 1.   Israr ullah Zehri appointed as minister in PPP’s government 2.   Mir Hazar Khan Bajarani appointed as Minister of Education by PPP. 3.   Abdul Qayyum Jatoi was caught red handed at Cat House Islamabad, later appointed as minister by PPP. 4.   Altaf Hussain kicked out his wife from his home; later goons of MQM deprived her from rights and legal proceedings. 5.   Legislation has been passed in Afghanistan denying right of Shia women by Hamid Karazai. 6.   Pak army has brutally murdered hundred of women and children’s with the help of air strikes and canons at Swat and FATA areas. 7.   NATO is regularly killing women and children’s with the help of drone attacks. 8.   Hundreds of girls of Jamia Hafsa were brutally murdered, kidnapped and humiliated by Pakistan army. 9.   Pak army, Frontier Forces still have occupied dozens of schools in war torn areas, but no one has courage to point out that why security forces are sitting in schools. And whenever Taliban attacks on those schools then a different picture is presented. 10.  At Peshawar today anybody can visit and see “ Heera Mandi Street ”, no Taliban or Al Qaida ever attacked there nor did Samar Minallah ever help prostitutes to adopt any other profession. NWFP has largest market of male Prostitutes as well; titles of some of the sex business are so vulgar that peoples avoid quoting them. Crying on the name of Women protection is a political drama or means to receive aid from overseas countries.  11.  There are so many hue and cries for polio vaccination, question is why Mush awarded such contracts to Agha Khanis, and same as whole education system was handed over to Agha Khan School Board. All privatized tourism hotels have been awarded to them and even 99.9% five star hotels is owned by that group.  On other hand Karakoram State and Agha Khan State is in pipe line. That was the only reason that Idi Amin kicked them out from Uganda . All above are a few examples excluding Aafia Siddiqui case and many women who have been involved in terrorism related cases by agencies? In the month of March Zardari was involved in allowing security agencies to jump in to homes with the help of ladders to crush lawyer’s movement. It is on record that security agencies brutally humiliated protesters including women during entire movement of restoration of justice. Athar Minallah who was crony of Mush and minister in his cabinet want to fail ANP government for the sake of making room for PPP, question is why Minallah family now abruptly started to broadcast on TV channels that Swat peace agreement has been failed and condition is for worst then civil war times? Additionally Army should continue to fight in those areas and so many other pessimistic theories could be witnessed on TV channels and papers.

Nasr Minallah who served Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto as a civil servant later he was ill-treated by General Zia ul Haq due to his contacts with Bhutto. After death his wife Bilqis became MNA.  Both have four children’s Athar, Fauzia, Akmal and Samar . Their close relatives, justice Safdar Shah was the Supreme Court judge who wrote a judgment declaring Bhutto innocent of the crime for which he was ultimately hanged (a 4 to 3 majority vote in the Supreme Court).

Athar Minallah poses that he is a lover of Z A Bhutto but why he worked as a Minister in Mush Government. His storey of participation in lawyer’s movement is well known. Samar Minallah is his sister who claimed to be living at Swat since last two years but neither Taliban touched her or Al Qaeda.

There is a strong group of Afghan Northern alliance at Islamabad , who has established an Aryana Institute for Regional Research and Advocacy (AIRRA) at Islamabad funded by anti-Pakistan quarters. Their major aims and ambitions include keeping busy Pakistan army in civil war. Majority of communists and cronies of India and Russia are sitting at Islamabad for spying on Pakistan . Its office is established in a large palace at a posh area of Islamabad . Farhat Taj Andersen is their spokes person, who is a Christian convert and based at Oslo . She is a great friend of Jang group and Salman Taseer media group who usually publish her poisonous sermons based on hatred and fascist theories.

[Dr Shahid Qureshi]

Dear Mr. Syed,

This is not my write-up. I would have put my name on it. I received email and shared with others. Is that a problem? The number of collaborators and traitors in Pakistan is in thousands unfortunately most of them are 'mummy dady' English speaking class? When US Senator said, ‘Pakistanis would sell their mothers for few $'. He was talking about them and not about 170 million honourable, proud Pakistanis because they don't have $ accounts.

Please reply to the email address:. internation...@hotmail.com

many thanks
Dr Shahid Qureshi
London 

[Yousaf Ali]

Dear All
I really appreciate Dr Qureshi for his nice comments. Samar Minallah had done non-sense by introducing a nine-month old tap that has a big question mark on its authenticity at a time when peace has returned to the region. Many across the contry and the world are condemning the flogging of a girl, which is not clear where happened. I  like the people of the militancy-hit Frontier province and adjacent tribal areas was much concerned about the massacre of Pakhtuns both at the hands of Taliban and security forces before the peace accords in Swat and Bajaur. Where Minallah was when the people were butured like carrots. Now that the ANP government has done remarkably well by inking agreement with TNSM and peace has returned to the violence plagued scenic Swat valley and other parts of the province and tribal areas, whose interests are being served by airing of an old tap. I think we shall not foil hte peace efforts by playing with hte sentiments of hte people through such taps.   

Yousaf Ali
Staff Reporter
The News,
Peshawar Bureau.
Office: 091-5271512
Cell:   O300-8110923



 

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[bishwajeet singh]

Hi all,

 

Keeping aside all the facts,it is extremely shameful for us(Journalists)that we have highlighted an incident which is 6 months old.We have no right to derail the peace in Swat valley that is very much on the track.We must be concerned with present and not as to what happened in the past.We as journalists do hold responsibility

 

regards,

Bishwajeet,Aajtak,New Delhi

919811553072

[Yousaf Ali]

Hi
Can Samr Minallah or the other so-called champions of HR have voiced concern even once over the brutal treatment with Dr Afia Siddique.

Yousaf Ali
Staff Reporter
The News,
Peshawar Bureau.
Office: 091-5271512

Cell:   O300-5982428



 

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Subject: RE: Samar Minallah: On whose agenda is trying to sabotage peace accord?
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 22:11:18 +0000

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[Farzana Shah]

I wonder why on earth no political party had ever announced to stage a protest over killing of women in Balochistan recently? WHY NO ONE  the likes of MQM had ever staged protest over Afia case??

 

The question is why madam Summar had not released the video to local media? why she was eager to earn some green bucks??

 

Above all why dont you listen and watch the video again and again trust me you will find many strange things there ranging from the Pashtu accent in the background which is not that of Swat,  the reaction of the lady when she got up. Just check out her body language was calm and cool. :))))))))))))))))))))

 

 

Jana (Farzana Shah)

 

Asian Tribune Correspondent for Pakistan.

[Hammad Haq]

I wished our media had played a more responsible in this scenario.
They should at least checked the source and timing of the video from
their Swat correspondents. We need to realize that in these trying
times we need to give our national interest the first priority.
Otherwise, the media, civil society and co. will be a part of the
repeat of 1971... Allah bachaya.

RESPONSIBILITY OVER SENSATIONALISM,
Hammad.
http://beta.vajood.com

On 4/5/09, Farzana Shah <jana...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I wonder why on earth no political party had ever announced to stage a
> protest over killing of women in Balochistan recently? WHY NO ONE the likes
> of MQM had ever staged protest over Afia case??
>
> The question is why madam Summar had not released the video to local media?
> why she was eager to earn some green bucks??
>
> Above all why dont you listen and watch the video again and again trust me
> you will find many strange things there ranging from the Pashtu accent in
> the background which is not that of Swat, the reaction of the lady when she
> got up. Just check out her body language was calm and cool.
> :))))))))))))))))))))
>
>
> Jana (Farzana Shah)
>
> Asian Tribune Correspondent for Pakistan.
>
>
>
> On 4/5/09, Yousaf Ali <ual...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>> Can Samr Minallah or the other so-called champions of HR have voiced
>> concern even once over the brutal treatment with Dr Afia Siddique.
>>
>>

>> *Yousaf Ali *
>> *Staff Reporter*
>> *The News,*
>> *Peshawar Bureau.*
>> *Office: 091-5271512*
>> *Cell: O300-5982428*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------

>> From: ukcorre...@hotmail.com
>> To: sye...@yahoo.com; abidul...@gmail.com
>> CC: paka...@googlegroups.com; pakistanpe...@yahoogroups.com;
>> paka...@gmail.com; pakm...@yahoogroups.com;
>> paf_op...@yahoogroups.com; kashmiraf...@yahoogroups.com;
>> pakpot...@googlegroups.com; muslims...@yahoogroups.com;
>> ansar....@gmail.com; saeeda...@gmail.com; asif...@gmail.com;
>> pressme...@gmail.com; pressp...@googlegroups.com;
>> aisha.f...@phclondon.org; azhar...@geo.tv; faisa...@yahoo.com;
>> b.sh...@mopa.gov.sy; bush...@yahoo.com; bhcl...@btconnect.com;
>> iqbalsa...@yahoo.co.uk; hami...@geo.tv; li...@presstv.ir;
>> infor...@alhayat.com; hesh...@presstv.ir; sou...@btconnect.com
>> Subject: RE: Samar Minallah: On whose agenda is trying to sabotage peace
>> accord?
>> Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 22:11:18 +0000
>>

>> *Dear Mr. Syed, *
>>
>> *This is not my write-up. I would have put my name on it. I received email

>> and shared with others. Is that a problem? The number of collaborators and
>> traitors in Pakistan is in thousands unfortunately most of them are 'mummy
>> dady' English speaking class? When US Senator said, ‘Pakistanis would sell
>> their mothers for few $'. He was talking about them and not about 170

>> million honourable, proud Pakistanis because they don't have $ accounts. *
>>
>> *Please reply to the email address:.
>> **internation...@hotmail.com*<internation...@hotmail.com>
>> *many thanks *
>> *Dr Shahid Qureshi *
>> *London
>> *

>>
>> Dear Dr Qureshi,
>> Please do not try to distract attention from the issue.
>> Whatever your gripe with Samar Minallah, please keep it between
>> yourselves.
>>
>> For whatever reason Samar Minallah did or did not draw attention to other
>> HR issues you have referred to does not, in any way mitigate the gravity
>> of
>> the outrage of flogging a girl.
>> It is not just for the court and the clergy to comment on the matter.
>> Every
>> one has a right and duty to condemn a barbaric act.
>> Ehtisham
>>
>> Dr. Syed Ehtisham
>> (607) 776-3336
>> Blog syedehtisham.blogspot.com
>> Feudalism, militarism, fundamentalism and bureaucrats constitute the evil
>> Quad in Pakistan.
>>

>> --- On *Sat, 4/4/09, Dr Shahid Qureshi
>> <ukcorre...@hotmail.com>*wrote:

>>
>> From: Dr Shahid Qureshi <ukcorre...@hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Samar Minallah: On whose agenda is trying to sabotage peace
>> accord?
>> To: paka...@googlegroups.com, pakistanpe...@yahoogroups.com,
>> paka...@gmail.com, pakm...@yahoogroups.com,
>> paf_op...@yahoogroups.com, kashmiraf...@yahoogroups.com,
>> pakpot...@googlegroups.com, muslims...@yahoogroups.com,
>> ansar....@gmail.com, "Saeed Abbasi Ummat" <saeeda...@gmail.com>,
>> asif...@gmail.com, pressme...@gmail.com,
>> pressp...@googlegroups.com, "political officer" <
>> aisha.f...@phclondon.org>, azhar...@geo.tv, "MITHO FAISAL" <
>> faisa...@yahoo.com>, "Dr Bouthaina Shaaban" <b.sh...@mopa.gov.sy>, "Dr
>> Bushra ICS" <bush...@yahoo.com>, "Bdesh" <bhcl...@btconnect.com>,
>> "Iqbal Sandhu Iqbal Sandhu" <iqbalsa...@yahoo.co.uk>, "Hamid Mir" <
>> hami...@geo.tv>, li...@presstv.ir, "Al - Hayat News Paper" <
>> infor...@alhayat.com>, "Hoda Heshmati Press TV" <hesh...@presstv.ir>,
>> "Mustafa Aljizraa" <sou...@btconnect.com>
>> Date: Saturday, April 4, 2009, 11:12 AM
>>

>> *Samar** Minallah: On whose agenda is trying to sabotage peace accord?*
>>
>> *By: Earthman, International Professor***

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[Adnan Gill]

Dear All,



I tried my best to stay away from the controversy, but after reading
comments in this forum, my conscious doesn’t allow me stay quite anymore. At
the risk of inviting wrath of many, I would like to state the following:



1. Please don’t label capitulation to the barbarians as so-called ‘national
interests; as if allowing a state within a state merits to be called a state
to begin with. Please don’t take refuge behind ‘national interests’ when it
comes to chauvinism. Bravery doesn’t mean locking one’s women (mothers,
daughters, sisters or wives) behind 7 doors. A real man gouges the eyes out
of the pervert who even dares to looks at them with malice. A man of his
salt defends the weak and not incarcerates them.



2. Shoot the message and not the messenger. I was hoping to see a healthy
debate on the subject from highly educated and esteemed members of this
respectable forum, but not personal attacks on Ms. Summar. What a shame!



3. Flagrant abuse of women’s rights at the hands of self-righteous Taliban
isn’t actually a secret anymore. I may be young, but not young enough to
have forgotten how Taliban slowly tightened their noose around women’s
rights in Afghanistan. At the height of Taliban rule, birthing mothers were
allowed to die, over allowing them to be taken to hospital without a ‘mahrum’/male
escort. Others died because they were forbidden to seek medical help from
male physicians. While the lady-doctors were not allowed to work altogether
under the pretexts of: they can’t work in the same facilities where male
counterparts worked too. Bravo, what a justice system!



4. If the video is fake then why did ANP minister Mian Iftikhar and the
Taliban spokesman Muslim Khan earlier accepted, the incident took place. Why
did they also allege that she was punished for illicit relationship with her
father-in-law? They even had nerve to suggest, that she should have been
thankful that she wasn’t stoned to death. Latter, these men first launched
attacks on Ms. Summar and then started to question the authenticity of the
tape. I cringe to imagine how some people could be susceptible to even give
a second thought to their doubletalk.



5. Two wrongs don’t make a right. Just because bloody and senseless war
wrong, doesn’t mean abuse of women’s rights cannot be condemned either.
Pacification of abuse of any sort should be condemned loudly, or it would
bread even more severe abuse.



6. Can someone please enlighten me how many ANP politicians (along with
their families) are currently residing in the Sawat valley? What a brave
trendsetting men they are!



7. If Talibanization is a just cause and has become all too real, then
instead of going on defensive, accept their actions with courage. Stand up
and be counted for condoning Talibanization!



8. If it was my daughter, I would have put a bullet through everyone’s eyes
there, starting with the man with the lash. At minimum, I would shoot her
and myself before becoming a spectacle to the (na-mehrum) perverts watching
whole perverse episode.



I can’t stress enough my disappointment with those defending the most
deplorable, shameless, barbaric and unIslamic actions of these
self-righteous barbarians.



Sincerely,



Adnan Gill

Los Angeles

[Irtiza Ali]

Nation should again think abt their beloved journalists & hr activists like hamid mir & Ms Minaullah......

[Irfan Shahzad]

I agree with Farzana on this.

Even seeing the video first time, from the way the man was administering the "punishment", it felt like a scene filmed for some picture/documentary.

Is it not possible that some documentary maker (I have no intention of pointing finger towards Samar or any body else) pauid a bunch of guys, and a lady, a few thousand rupees to shoot the scene? Not to forget that not a single face of the audience, those adminstring the punishment, or even the "Victimn" is visible.

Irfan Shahzad
Freelance Journalist
Islamabad

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Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:24:56 -0700
Subject: Re: Samar Minallah: On whose agenda is trying to sabotage peace accord?
From: jana...@gmail.com
To: ual...@hotmail.com
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[Farzana Shah]

Mr Ehtisham

We have  nothing to do with madam Samar. Its her personal matter whatever she does and how she earns money. But yes we have the right to question her intention?

 

1. Why she did not provide the video to Pakistani media?

2. Why she had transfered it to western media ? or may be its otherway round as well.

3. Why court should not make her one of the parties in the trial about this incident?

 

 

Above all here is something for you guys just read and watch and then tell me why the World is Silent when a woman was tortured in Ohio (US) in 2006.

 

 

i am pasting bellow do take out sometime and try to use your brain over this media Psy-ops by the West against Pakistan.

 

 

Why the world kept
silent when this woman was tortured in OHIO

I don't intend to undermine the intensity of the accident (if it was not fake or fabricated) in the tribal areas where a girls was flogged. Though ironic it may seem, our focus only goes to issues which are most obvious; presented and interpreted for us for our consideration. However, if we pay some heed and attention to social elements which are causing human rights violation of far greater magnitude, we would notice that many such elements prevails within our society, and also among the most developed nations. 

 

Please visit the following link to watch this shocking clip, I am sorry for the degree of explicitness of the contents, however to have an idea of the level of biasness of media, this clip must be watched.

The question that naturally creeps in ones mind after viewing this is why the world kept silent when this women tortured horrendously in OHIO in
2006 by non other then police officers, and why the news of women flogging
was all over the news, all over the globe


The point to note is that if this video were to be shown 24/7 on channels
all across the world, and the propagators' own people were to stage paid
demonstrations in streets across cities, then this would have been a crime of
equal magnitude. This is called Media Warfare

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVJb_wkI7jk
 

 

*** Please watch in absence of children ***

(Regards Jana)

[Syed Ehtisham]

Dear Farzana, We are more concerned with what happens in Pakistan, because we are from there. And there is a degree of rule of law, though it could be improved, in the USA, much higher than in Pakistan. Even if one grants that Samar is following some one's agenda, whose agenda, is it Taliban's or  is it Jamaat e Islami, that you are following?

Dr. Syed Ehtisham (607) 776-3336 Blog syedehtisham.blogspot.com Feudalism, militarism, fundamentalism and bureaucrats constitute the evil Quad in Pakistan.

--- On Mon, 4/6/09, Farzana Shah <jana...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Zanobia Ilyas]

 

I think we should think twice before we get into the blame-game as it is very easy to just jump to a conclusion and then start an entire campaign.

 

Samar Minallah is not a hired hand of any political party or anti-Islamic organization. She has been a journalist for twenty years and now a documentary film maker focusing on the issues upon which we are not willing to speak out against and which are the stigma on our country and its traditions. She works purely for Pakistan and is helping to empower the women folk under the Muslim Context.

 

If we really want to know about hired/paid/ATM or Chequebook journalism then go back in history, particularly the Afghan War Era, when millions and millions of dollars were drawn by the “rightist” journalists and newspaper editors-cum-owners, they were on the payroll of the ISI and other such sources.

 

I read the article carefully and realized that the writer, Earthman or whatever his name is, doesn’t bring many things she did do for the sake of humanity. Like, for instance, due to Samar's efforts, in December 2005 a three-member bench comprising Chief Justice of Pakistan Justice Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhry, Justice Faqir Khokhar and Justice Shakirullah Jan gave police orders to protect women against Swara (a tradition in which the daughter or a female of the family is given away to the enemy to end old rivalry, it is practised in all parts ot Pakistan with different names) by registering any complaints for women who came forward. Her petition requested the court to declare the handing over of a woman as compensation in any form of settlement illegal, and to declare that marriage under the custom of Sawara did not constitute legal marriage. She also requested the court to declare that Jirga decisions in such cases hold no legal value as it violates fundamental rights besides section 310(1) (compounding of Qisas) of the Pakistan Penal Code, and that Sawara customs should be banned immediately and the victims be released to lead a new life in accordance with the constitution.

 

 

And surely that Video of a girl being whip lashed by the “non-mehram” men amid so many other ‘non-mehram’ men is not Islamic. Even if it were a fake, then it is an undeniable fact that the extremists have been doing a lot of callous acts, including the violence on women in those regions. Islam is the religion in which there are no compulsions but the extremists are misusing the teachings of Islam and trying to spread it through guns, severe punishments and they do all this: in the name of God.  

It is a shame that we just jump to a conclusion and start blaming people without having any concrete evidence. All due to the lack of right professional approach. Please put your emotions aside and be impartial to all this just for once and see the entire matter as a human being, you cannot even be a good Muslim unless you are a good human being.

 

-Zanobia

 

 

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Subject: Re: Samar Minallah: On whose agenda is trying to sabotage peace accord?

 

I wonder why on earth no political party had ever announced to stage a protest over killing of women in Balochistan recently? WHY NO ONE  the likes of MQM had ever staged protest over Afia case??

[Farzana Shah]

Dear Zanobia and Ehtisham

 

Both of you are  trying to undermine the real issue at hand.  This is nothing to with bashing madam Samar.  Just try to see the entire episode in a neutral manner. The timing of the release of the video. The people arround and the  manner in which it was done.  Why on earth so-called liberals  start yelling when someone differ with their point of view? If you have the right to believe in it without asking for the proofs then i think everyone is entitled to his/her point of view even if its different than yours.

 

Is there any harm in viewing the video criticaly and finding the truth?? the case is in the court and i think we the people of Pakistan have every right to question many things.  Lets help finding the truth instead of arguing for individuals. BTW Samar belongs to NWFP  but where she been a journalist for 2o years ???

 

 

As far as paid journalists lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz your argument is so much laughable if you think that journalists or media houses today are not paid or hired one. Almost all of us on this emailing list belong to media. And being media i would be blunt to say we all know how many of the media outlets are on funding from CIA and US. Its another matter that the tools they use are different and CIA dosnt come into picture much.

 

As far as NGOs and those working in social sector for so-called welfare of women and down troden well we all know the reality on ground too.

 

 

Regards

 

Jana

[Rizwan Razi]

 
 
In response to Zanobya's one sentence "then go back in history, particularly the Afghan War Era, when millions and millions of dollars were drawn by the “rightist” journalists and newspaper editors-cum-owners, they were on the payroll of the ISI and other such sources".

I think she must have courage to say the truth and this is a really intellectual dishonesty which she has done in broad day light. When she is saying this, she is sitting next to a person who boast himself (so called) 'liberal' and his wife running NGO and Zanoby's colleague use his institution to benfit his wife's NGO, her many of other colleaqgues manipulate stock market in flagrent violation of their own institution's code of conduct and they are still innocents. I may count hundrads of examples of our liberal colleagues but the discussion is not on this issue because Iss Hamam Mein Bohot sey aur log bhi nangey ho saktey hain.
 
Therefore, there could have been a number of justifications and compulsion of situation which has forced such practives on our colleagues because after all they are human beings.
 
With more than two decades in journalism, I feel that bribe's allegation against many journalists have been levelled from the lay men, but nobody care about such allegations as it has become cliche. But if this allegation comes from a fellow colleague, who calimed to be a journalist, then this really hurts.
 
So please dont abuse anybody and just check yourself before giving sweeping statements.
 
Ghar Ka Bhedi Lanka Bhi Dha Sakta Hey.
 
Razi

 

 

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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 06:38:01 -0700

Subject: Re: Samar Minallah: On whose agenda is trying to sabotage peace accord?

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<br

[Faisal Faruqi]

Ehtisham,

Do we need to always follow someone's agenda in order to speak about justice or truth ?

There is a lot of hue & cry over the so-called swat video but there are some serious questions raised about it's validity. Unfortunately the media was quick to broadcast the video but now it's not able to provide evidence that the video is not fake.

The special tribunal created by the CJP is asking for evidence and this is the time when media, NGOs and MQM should come forward and present evidence instead of empty talks and protests. 

Furthermore we should remind ourselves that justice and human roghts arei universal values and should be available to all. We cannot pick and choose.

When Yvon Ridley brought the case of Dr Afia to media spotlight I sent a letter to some Pakistani NGOs that have been quiet vocal about women rights and i reqiested them to raise their voice for Dr Afia. To my surprise they not only did not raise their voice for the doctor but they didn't bother to even send me a reply. I am just wondering why ?

Best Regards,

Faisal

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On 06-Apr-09, at 3:59 AM, Syed Ehtisham <sye...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Dear Farzana, We are more concerned with what happens in Pakistan, because we are from there. And there is a degree of rule of law, though it could be improved, in the USA, much higher than in Pakistan. Even if one grants that Samar is following some one's agenda, whose agenda, is it Taliban's or  is it Jamaat e Islami, that you are following?

Dr. Syed Ehtisham (607) 776-3336 Blog syedehtisham.blogspot.com Feudalism, militarism, fundamentalism and bureaucrats constitute the evil Quad in Pakistan.

--- On Mon, 4/6/09, Farzana Shah <jana...@gmail.com> wrote:

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Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:24:56 -0700

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[Shahab-ud-din Khan]

I  appreciate Dr Qureshi for his nice comments. about  Samar Minallah,and will requestall writers to give such comments about this so called laberal girl

shahab uddin

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[Ali Hussain]

Its very shocking that the so-called civil society organizations could take a step just for the sake of earning dollars. The video which is clearly indicating as fake that the way the girl left the scene so calmly is the clear evidence.

 

Just asked to that so-called civil society activist to just take at least five flogs and then show how u can be able to go easily.

 

Its again very shocking because it not only give bad name to our society but also opened another chapter of criticism on Islam. I am not a fundamentalist but not a secular to such an extent as these so-called civil society activists are doing for the sake of earning “green backs”.

 

Being journalists all of us know very well that what these elements are doing in the name of civil society and non-governmental organizations.

 

Ali Hussain

 

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& PPI

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Hi,

Will someone send me a link to a good quality video of the episode please?

Thank you,

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[Farzana Shah]

Dear Ali

 

Thats what i was saying that we need to reach to the bottom of the truth. As it is not possible to get up easily with such an ease and calm body language after getting 34  hard lashes.

 

Jana

[Saj]

Salam to everybody.

 

The points raised by International professor about the video (not the rest of the contents of his posts, I am talking. Only Video commantary) and Farzana's commentary is good and logical. The video will be considered as fake until or unless we do not have a solid proof of it. The residents of SWAT are declining this video, the hand of the mobile owner remained still in the air, surprising that no one noticed him while he was standing in the first row of the audiences to make video. Video remained secret for months and the person who made video public did not tell the media that it is months old. Only later it has been, infect, CONFESSED by media. The Taliban/terrorists declined that this perticular incident happened there. Samar living in swat for months and where taliban killing military for their help to americans, they did not touched her, funny, very funny. People in the video showed no emotions. Girl standup and walked away, her brother and the other person, who were holding her, were sitting on the ground like a bucher, who had already cut the cow's head and is now getting some rest on the ground......

 

 

Couple of months before, the intelligence agencies arrested a western journalists in Balochistan, who hired few poor people from their and was trying to film them, while coming down from mountains with heavy arms and ammunition in hands. This is also a same attempt. But this time, they saved themselves from Intel's eye and succeded.

 

These so called human rights activists are selling not only their soul but the whole country to the enemies.

 

Billions of dollar they spend in Pakistan for welfare purposes. Entirely through NGOs. While such spending should go to Govt. of Pakistan and Govt. of Pakistan should spend that money further. I think if Govt. ban on NGOs to receive funds directly from foreign governments, much of the problems would be sorted out.

 

Also note that these billions of dollars direct spending have no contribution in our GDP. Do you people ever noticed that? These billions of dollars coming from all side of world DO have potential to have at least some impact on GDP. But this is not the case. Reason? Because, such money had NEVER been used for the betterness of the people but for bribes and all that. More interesting thing is that such money, which is announced as aid for Pakistan AND is supposed to be spended in Pakistan, NEVER ABLE TO REACH PAKISTAN and is consumed outside the country. Why is that???

 

You consider it our carelessness or whatever, but this is true that in the battleground, our enemy is not India or USA or Israel but our own people, our own lovedones, those who we entrusted to run our country and take care of us. But they, instead of doing what they were supposed to do, terned their back to us and working on enemy's agendas. Would you mind to go to open the door, while you have servant at home for this job? Surely not. So India, Israel and USA would only intervene when they will have got to give a FINAL PUNCH.

 

Also, we need to notice that how easily our media, human rights activists and others get themselves SOLD OUT. Their attitudes and activities are a clear message for faithful countrymen that they will never do anything for the betterness for the country and that there intentions are to earn money, either legally or illegaly. So we need to think on it. Being an educated person. It is a duty of all of us to save the people and the country from conspiracies. It is not only our sovereignity, which is on target but our faith, our religion, our existance, our social and moral values and the future of our childen has been decided as full and final victory by our enemies.

 

If you are married than go home and look in your childen's eyes. You will find them asking you a question, "Father, what had you done for our betterness, today".

 

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[abdul qahar]

I dont know why you guys send me this trash. Cant you guys do something productive than this bickering about a non-issue

--- On Mon, 6/4/09, Farzana Shah <jana...@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Farzana Shah <jana...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Samar Minallah: On whose agenda is trying to sabotage peace accord?

To: "Ali Hussain" <alihuss...@gmail.com> Cc: shaha...@gmail.com, rizwa...@hotmail.com, zanobi...@cnbcpakistan.com, ual...@hotmail.com, ukcorre...@hotmail.com, sye...@yahoo.com, abidul...@gmail.com, paka...@googlegroups.com, pakistanpe...@yahoogroups.com, paka...@gmail.com, pakm...@yahoogroups.com, paf_op...@yahoogroups.com, kashmiraf...@yahoogroups.com, pakpot...@googlegroups.com, muslims...@yahoogroups.com, ansar....@gmail.com, saeeda...@gmail.com, asif...@gmail.com, pressme...@gmail.com, pressp...@googlegroups.com, aisha.f...@phclondon.org, azhar...@geo.tv, faisa...@yahoo.com, b.sh...@mopa.gov.sy, bush...@yahoo.com, bhcl...@btconnect.com, iqbalsa...@yahoo.co.uk, hami...@geo.tv, li...@presstv.ir, infor...@alhayat.com, hesh...@presstv.ir, sou...@btconnect.com, zb...@yhoo.co.uk Date: Monday, 6 April, 2009, 8:41 PM Dear Ali   Thats what i was saying that we need to reach to the bottom of the truth. As it is not possible to get up easily with such an ease and calm body language after getting 34  hard lashes.   Jana     On 4/6/09, Ali Hussain <alihuss...@gmail.com> wrote: Its very shocking that the so-called civil society organizations could take a step just for the sake of earning dollars. The video which is clearly indicating as fake that the way the girl left the scene so calmly is the clear evidence.

Just asked to that so-called civil society activist to just take at least five flogs and then show how u can be able to go easily.

Its again very shocking because it not only give bad name to our society but also opened another chapter of criticism on Islam. I am not a fundamentalist but not a secular to such an extent as these so-called civil society activists are doing for the sake of earning “green backs”.

Being journalists all of us know very well that what these elements are doing in the name of civil society and non-governmental organizations.

Ali Hussain   Reporter   The Frontier Post, Islamabad & PPI Cell # 0345-5911734

On 4/6/09, Shahab-ud-din Khan <shaha...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[Yousaf Ali]

I think Mr Qahar also hails from the pakhtun belt. What productive he wants us to discuss. My dear this is not trash, this is related to the life of the 20 million people of this region I mean Swat and other parts of NWFP.
To Mr. Ehtisham we have no need to follow anyone's agenda - Taliban or JI, but you honestly tell me what was the need of introducing an ubathentic old video when peace was fast returning to Swat?
And Mst Zanobia should be careful in levelling general allegation against Journalists.

One nice comment of NWFP Information Minister Mian iftikhar Hussain, who is known for his liberal ideas. He said "the extremist approach of the so-called civil society changed my idea about them. They can do anything for monet and cheap popularity."
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accord?

I dont know why you guys send me this trash. Cant you guys do something productive than this bickering about a non-issue

--- On Mon, 6/4/09, Farzana Shah <jana...@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Farzana Shah <jana...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Samar Minallah: On whose agenda is trying to sabotage peace accord?
To: "Ali Hussain" <alihuss...@gmail.com>
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Date: Monday, 6 April, 2009, 8:41 PM



Dear Ali
 
Thats what i was saying that we need to reach to the bottom of the truth. As it is not possible to get up easily with such an ease and calm body language after getting 34  hard lashes.
 
Jana
 


 
On 4/6/09, Ali Hussain <alihuss...@gmail.com <http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=alihuss...@gmail.com> > wrote:
Its very shocking that the so-called civil society organizations could take a step just for the sake of earning dollars. The video which is clearly indicating as fake that the way the girl left the scene so calmly is the clear evidence.
 
Just asked to that so-called civil society activist to just take at least five flogs and then show how u can be able to go easily.
 
Its again very shocking because it not only give bad name to our society but also opened another chapter of criticism on Islam. I am not a fundamentalist but not a secular to such an extent as these so-called civil society activists are doing for the sake of earning "green backs".
 
Being journalists all of us know very well that what these elements are doing in the name of civil society and non-governmental organizations.
 
Ali Hussain
 
Reporter
 
The Frontier Post, Islamabad
& PPI
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On 4/6/09, Shahab-ud-din Khan <shaha...@gmail.com <http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=shaha...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I  appreciate Dr Qureshi for his nice comments. about  Samar Minallah,and will requestall writers to give such comments about this so called laberal girl
shahab uddin
aaj tv
peshawar

 

On 4/6/09, Rizwan Razi <rizwa...@hotmail.com <http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=rizwa...@hotmail.com> > wrote:
 
 
In response to Zanobya's one sentence "then go back in history, particularly the Afghan War Era, when millions and millions of dollars were drawn by the "rightist" journalists and newspaper editors-cum-owners, they were on the payroll of the ISI and other such sources".

I think she must have courage to say the truth and this is a really intellectual dishonesty which she has done in broad day light. When she is saying this, she is sitting next to a person who boast himself (so called) 'liberal' and his wife running NGO and Zanoby's colleague use his institution to benfit his wife's NGO, her many of other colleaqgues manipulate stock market in flagrent violation of their own institution's code of conduct and they are still innocents. I may count hundrads of examples of our liberal colleagues but the discussion is not on this issue because Iss Hamam Mein Bohot sey aur log bhi nangey ho saktey hain.
 
Therefore, there could have been a number of justifications and compulsion of situation which has forced such practives on our colleagues because after all they are human beings.
 
With more than two decades in journalism, I feel that bribe's allegation against many journalists have been levelled from the lay men, but nobody care about such allegations as it has become cliche. But if this allegation comes from a fellow colleague, who calimed to be a journalist, then this really hurts.
 
So please dont abuse anybody and just check yourself before giving sweeping statements.
 
Ghar Ka Bhedi Lanka Bhi Dha Sakta Hey.
 
Razi


 



 

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Subject: Re: Samar Minallah: On whose agenda is trying to sabotage peace accord?

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Dear Zanobia and Ehtisham
 
Both of you are  trying to undermine the real issue at hand.  This is nothing to with bashing madam Samar.  Just try to see the entire episode in a neutral manner. The timing of the release of the video. The people arround and the  manner in which it was done.  Why on earth so-called liberals  start yelling when someone differ with their point of view? If you have the right to believe in it without asking for the proofs then i think everyone is entitled to his/her point of view even if its different than yours.
 
Is there any harm in viewing the video criticaly and finding the truth?? the case is in the court and i think we the people of Pakistan have every right to question many things.  Lets help finding the truth instead of arguing for individuals. BTW Samar belongs to NWFP  but where she been a journalist for 2o years ???
 
 
As far as paid journalists lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz your argument is so much laughable if you think that journalists or media houses today are not paid or hired one. Almost all of us on this emailing list belong to media. And being media i would be blunt to say we all know how many of the media outlets are on funding from CIA and US. Its another matter that the tools they use are different and CIA dosnt come into picture much.
 
As far as NGOs and those working in social sector for so-called welfare of women and down troden well we all know the reality on ground too.
 
 
Regards
 
Jana
 
 


 

On 4/6/09, Zanobia Ilyas <zanobi...@cnbcpakistan.com <http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=zanobi...@cnbcpakistan.com> > wrote:


 
I think we should think twice before we get into the blame-game as it is very easy to just jump to a conclusion and then start an entire campaign.
 
Samar Minallah is not a hired hand of any political party or anti-Islamic organization. She has been a journalist for twenty years and now a documentary film maker focusing on the issues upon which we are not willing to speak out against and which are the stigma on our country and its traditions. She works purely for Pakistan and is helping to empower the women folk under the Muslim Context.
 
If we really want to know about hired/paid/ATM or Chequebook journalism then go back in history, particularly the Afghan War Era, when millions and millions of dollars were drawn by the "rightist" journalists and newspaper editors-cum-owners, they were on the payroll of the ISI and other such sources.
 
I read the article carefully and realized that the writer, Earthman or whatever his name is, doesn't bring many things she did do for the sake of humanity. Like, for instance, due to Samar's efforts, in December 2005 a three-member bench comprising Chief Justice of Pakistan Justice Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhry, Justice Faqir Khokhar and Justice Shakirullah Jan gave police orders to protect women against Swara (a tradition in which the daughter or a female of the family is given away to the enemy to end old rivalry, it is practised in all parts ot Pakistan with different names) by registering any complaints for women who came forward. Her petition requested the court to declare the handing over of a woman as compensation in any form of settlement illegal, and to declare that marriage under the custom of Sawara did not constitute legal marriage. She also requested the court to declare that Jirga decisions in such cases hold no legal value as it violates fundamental rights besides section 310(1) (compounding of Qisas) of the Pakistan Penal Code, and that Sawara customs should be banned immediately and the victims be released to lead a new life in accordance with the constitution.
 
 
And surely that Video of a girl being whip lashed by the "non-mehram" men amid so many other 'non-mehram' men is not Islamic. Even if it were a fake, then it is an undeniable fact that the extremists have been doing a lot of callous acts, including the violence on women in those regions. Islam is the religion in which there are no compulsions but the extremists are misusing the teachings of Islam and trying to spread it through guns, severe punishments and they do all this: in the name of God.  
It is a shame that we just jump to a conclusion and start blaming people without having any concrete evidence. All due to the lack of right professional approach. Please put your emotions aside and be impartial to all this just for once and see the entire matter as a human being, you cannot even be a good Muslim unless you are a good human being.
 
-Zanobia
 
 

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Subject: Re: Samar Minallah: On whose agenda is trying to sabotage peace accord?
  

I wonder why on earth no political party had ever announced to stage a protest over killing of women in Balochistan recently? WHY NO ONE  the likes of MQM had ever staged protest over Afia case??
 


 
 
The question is why madam Summar had not released the video to local media? why she was eager to earn some green bucks??
 
 
 
Above all why dont you listen and watch the video again and again trust me you will find many strange things there ranging from the Pashtu accent in the background which is not that of Swat,  the reaction of the lady when she got up. Just check out her body language was calm and cool. :))))))))))))))))))))
 
 
 
 
 
Jana (Farzana Shah)
 
 
 
Asian Tribune Correspondent for Pakistan.
 


 
 
On 4/5/09, Yousaf Ali <ual...@hotmail.com <http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ual...@hotmail.com> > wrote:

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Can Samr Minallah or the other so-called champions of HR have voiced concern even once over the brutal treatment with Dr Afia Siddique.


Yousaf Ali
Staff Reporter
The News,
Peshawar Bureau.
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Subject: RE: Samar Minallah: On whose agenda is trying to sabotage peace accord?
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 22:11:18 +0000


 Dear Mr. Syed,
This is not my write-up. I would have put my name on it. I received email and shared with others. Is that a problem? The number of collaborators and traitors in Pakistan is in thousands unfortunately most of them are 'mummy dady' English speaking class? When US Senator said, 'Pakistanis would sell their mothers for few $'. He was talking about them and not about 170 million honourable, proud Pakistanis because they don't have $ accounts.

Please reply to the email address:. <http://uk.mc263.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=internation...@hotmail.com> internation...@hotmail.com

many thanks
Dr Shahid Qureshi
London 
 





Dear Dr Qureshi,
Please do not try to distract attention from the issue.
Whatever your gripe with Samar Minallah, please keep it between yourselves.
For whatever reason Samar Minallah did or did not draw attention to other HR issues  you have referred to does not, in any way mitigate the gravity of the outrage of flogging a girl.
It is not just for the court and the clergy to comment on the matter. Every one has a right and duty to condemn a barbaric act.
Ehtisham

Dr. Syed Ehtisham
(607) 776-3336

Blog syedehtisham.blogspot.com <http://syedehtisham.blogspot.com/>

Feudalism, militarism, fundamentalism and bureaucrats constitute the evil Quad in Pakistan.

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Dear All,

 

It is astonishing, how some people are still alleging and counter-alleging each other and Ms. Minallah’s possible motive.

 

Folks:

 

1. Instead of slandering each other, how about we focus on why this video has riled emotions of many (both pro and con)? Could it be, because some of us are afraid that soon they or their loved ones also may have to face the pervasive version of justice of the self-righteous? On the other hand, some people are on defensive, because they fear it falsely depicts their culture and their traditions.

2. So far, there is a video (authentic or engineered) that shows blatant violations of women rights, and then we have purely speculative allegations that it’s an engineered video. This reminds me of how Maulana Fazal-ur-Rehman chose to attack Ansar Abassi, despite the availability of physical proof and eye witness accounts. So how about we debate the subject and refrain from slandering each other and that too, purely on speculative bases?

3. Regardless, whether this video is authentic or not, in this day and age of readily available camera equipped cell-phones, its only matter of time when another such video will make its début.

 

p.s. here is another video of Taliban abusing another woman, who didn’t cover her ankles to the satisfaction of a Talib. Can someone please translate the audio and make a guess about the dialect in this video? Thanks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKYjCeXmz6w

 

Sincerely,

 

Adnan Gill

Los Angeles

[Farzana Shah]

Adnan since when you have started seeing things with blind eyes ??? :))))

 

too bad adnan i think you and me know very well the western game then howcome you are talking emotional instead of neutraly analysing :)

 

Jana

 

[Shafiq Awan]

 

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Subject: RE: Samar Minallah: On whose agenda is trying to sabotage peace accord?

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Subject: RE: Samar Minallah: On whose agenda is trying to sabotage peace accord?

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Dear buddies,
it is an interesting debate except few personal attacks. We know eachother and should avoid hitting persons rather the issue. One, if the flogging incident is true then we should condemn and regret over our sorroundings. What is happening and why such acts of torture. We must stop such inhuman acts but through pen not drones.
Second, if samar did engineering or willingly or unwillingly publicise a fake docudrama, then we should join hands and expose such actors.
There should be an independent inquiry committee of PFUJ or senior journalists to consider seriouly the growing complaints against pak media. It should for maintaining the integrity of pen. We might have some political ideas, liking or disliking but professionally we should deal all the players, security, taliban, govt, opposition and civil society alike.
We should highlight truth based social evils but impartialy. Lets the victims speak and we report. Not we report which the victims themesles deny. Muda'aee sust gawah chust.

all the best
haq nawaz khan,
correspondent The Nation
+92 300 5221520

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From: Farzana Shah
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 11:36:07 -0700
To: Adnan Gill<Adnan...@cox.net>

[Syed Imran]

we all know the agenda of Amrica and its partners , but the issue is how we overcome that media war and how we defuse the Propaganda of west.Can we defeat the powerful west media through Q and peace tv? If not, than how we can , we may start a debate at this form and discuss our Suggestions and can share personal ideas ,it may be fruitful for the nation.
regards,
Syed Imran Shafqat
Express News Lahore

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[Ali Hussain]

I am 100 percent agree with Mr Haq Nawaz,,,,,,,,,,,we should join hands for the cause to restore the prestige of the pen.

 

Ali

 

[bishwajeet singh]

Do agree with you regarding the powerful propaganda war of the west;West hasn't left nothing to be resolved.In the post world war second period,the newly indepenent nations had no option but to dance to the tune of the powerful western countries and the communist countries too.The problems we are facing are very much the remnants of the Cold war age when developed nations exploited the underdeveloped just to prove their respected superiorites.The problems in India,Pakistan,Iran,Afganistan,Iraq and other countries very much due to historical factors.Today the developed countries are mounting drone attacks but they must know that it is their baby

 

regards,

Bishwajeet,

Associate Senior Producer,

Aajtak,919811553072

[Irtiza Ali]

Imran bhai you guys can easily give a reply to the anlgo-american-indian media's false propaganda....our political talks shows first have to become patriotic...& when I say patriotic doesn't mean support for CJ or some other politcial party....but support for Pakistan....come up with a talk show....call a journalist/anchor/analyst/think tank from america or UK & tell them how we feel....send ur message of Pakistan/Pakistani's outside the world...indians do this all the time through their channels.....on the other hand Pakistani Media is ready to go against Pakistan & not indian/israel/usa/uk.....

Just a suggestion from a young Pakistani..

[ib...@dailytimes.com.pk]

First time giving my comment, I fully agreed with irtza , look the indians and indian channels, always blaming pakistan and their channel are like full anti- pakistan, and look at our channels , second shape of indian channel, promoting them, I think we should stop this, and promote pakistan only, not indians, a simple example , once I asked my friend working in our pioneer channel of pakistan that why you are promoting indians, ur every third news was abt indian culture? He simply ans, coz india is a big market that's why, I was shocked, any ways be Pakistan and proud to b pakistani, GOD BLESS YOU ALL

Regards

Ibrar

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From: Irtiza Ali
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 12:13:05 -0400
To: <alihuss...@gmail.com>

[Javed aziz]

Dear Friends
I can only add to this topic that those ( he or she) who do not know about what is really going on in Swat or other parts of volatile Frontier and Fata should avoid writing about the trouble to avoid adding more to the miseries of the people of these areas and confusion of the entire population of Pakistan. We are faced with a really complex problem which the majority of population is unable to understand. The good thing to help the people of these areas would be to really find out what is happening there and what should be done to stop more brutal killings of Pakhtoons.

 

Javed Aziz Khan
The News International
Peshawar Bureau,
4th floor Badshah Towers, Khyber Super Market Peshawar Cantt, Pakistan
0092 345 9094147
0092 91 5271512

[Ali Hussain]

Appeal For Help

 

To,
The Journalists Friends.
Subject:  This letter is from a Father, Nobody listen his vioce.
I am Muhammad Botta resident of Baghbanpura Lahore. My son Muhammad saghir had visited India on legal documents in i.e. Pakistani Passport and legal valid Indian visa.
Sagihr was enthusiastic to become a famous star in film industry and knowing that Indian film industry is the second largest industry after Hollywood he visited India to become an actor or director.
But unfortunately, he was arrested by the Indian police from a bazaar and transferred him to an unknown place before his visa expired. Since then (2004) my son Muhammad saghir had in imprisonments in India from last five years who went to India with the desire to become a good actor and director.
The Indian police and intelligence agencies has tear into pieces the human rights and manners they horror violence on my son Muhammad saghir as a result of it his one arm and leg has broken.  But this is an extreme of violence they left him with out first treated.  By their tortured Indian agencies forcefully asked my son to admit the crimes which he had not done. After two years rolling in police station and courts on this June 2006 the local court punished him seven years imprisonment which is started from 2004. My son  bone in Pakistan and he is an intelligent student which have no any crime record in any police station or any intelligence agency but my innocent son has arrested and violence on it and no body hear me.
I had written a letter to Indian embassy and told them all the things. On my letter they said that they will reply him after investigation and still they don't contact with me. My son Muhammad saghir had gone to India through wahga border on his own passport. I don't receive any letter of my son from last year and I don't about him.  Due to young son separation I have heart attacked two times and my three artries closed. It is very painful to me when I saw my grand children my wife has suffered from sugar and high blood pressure due to young son separation.
I can give education to my grand children but how can I give them the love of father who have devoted the illegal punishment from last five years. I appeal for help to bring him to Pakistan from India.

Muhammad Boota.
3/175 College Park Baghbanpura
Lahore, Pakistan.
Email- boo...@gmail.com
Phone: 0092 3129429000









 

[Ali Hussain]

----- Original Message -----

From: Makhdoom Mukhtar

To: mukhtar...@gmail.com

Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 7:58 PM

Subject: Sexual Harassment at Quaid e Azam University....

 

Hot n SourWhere are you Farzana Bari???
Makhdoom Mukhtar

Last Friday a young girl finished her classes at the Quaid e Azam University campus and headed for her relatives on the weekend. She reached the University main gate and waited for taxi. A taxi arrived on the scene but she did not waved her hand to attract the attention of the driver as two men were already sitting in the cab. But still the taxi stopped beside her. Before she could understand the situation, one man came out of the taxi, grabbed the girl and pushed her inside the vehicle. Some onlookers were present on the scene but no body raised an alarm and no body even tried to record the number plate of the car. The incident was reported in the press in detail. It was told that parents of the poor girl were seen rushing here and there in search of their daughter. The University administration refused to take up the case with the police and police never did it on their own. Where the hell are you Farzana Bari?
 
Farzana Bari is an internationally acclaimed gender rights activist who heads the department of Gender Studies at the prestigious Quaid e Azam University in Islamabad. She remains busy in reading research papers on gender injustices done to poor women   in functions held at air conditioned five star venues. Half her days are spent abroad enlightening the world about the struggle she has done on improving the quality of life of women in Pakistan. And when one of her colleagues asked her to do something for the poor abducted girl, she snubbed her as the matter did not specifically concern her department. In her own department where she rules like Aristotle, an unfortunate incident occurred only last month. One of her brilliant student was raped by another student and the unfortunate girl had to leave not only the university but the city where this international university has its distinguished premises.
 
Quaid e Azam University is in the grip of sexual harassment cases and gender related crimes these days. Since the post of Vice Chancellor in Pakistan is bureaucratically tailored in this country, he would never feel the need to visit around to sense the pulse at the campus. There have been no Student Counseling Facilities in this university whereas Dr.Farzana Bari and all her crew members have been studying abroad and they very well know what Student Counseling means. According to a survey made by the students themselves 100 percent of the female students are subject to harassment at the hands of males at the campus. The incidents reported in the earlier passages are not the only happenings in this academic institution stationed in a jungle.
 
The vast and boundary less area of the university is covered by trees and bushes and hideouts. The place becomes haunted after the classes are over but there is no check on entrance or exits of the visitors who continue to roam in the campus in search of a glimpse of girls. The functions at the university are arranged by the students in the night and no secure best practices have been introduced to monitor the activities of the students. A couple of years back, corpse of a young girl was found in the bushes right after the night of a function. The matter was never probed.
 
The male students have made it an established custom to pass comments on the passer-by female students. More horrible is the fact that girl students have now accepted the occurring of these remarks as a routine feature of the university. However this has increased the sense of insecurity among the girl students at a large level. They take refuge in the company of their male class fellows in the hope that their proximity would stop the students of other departments from harassing them. The male class fellows don’t allow their female class fellows to even stand alone at the bus stop as they know the threats posed by the male species at the campus. Rows and fights featuring over protective and jealous boys are on the rise. What are the management and faculty waiting for? What do they want to happen next?
 
But who can blame the students when teachers themselves are on the forefront in creating a rampage against the fair sex. Those who have studied at the Quaid e Azam University know the names of those professors very well who demand special favors from their female students in exchange of good grades. One feels like hating this rendezvous. One feels like asking are we really humans? Are we really the students and are we really the teachers for that matter? Is it a horror movie being screened by a Hollywood Film Maker or is it a slide show of our inner brutes that rule the roost in the garb of education?
 
Where are all the researchers gone who have devoted their skills to explore the reasons of acid throwing incidents on young innocent girls in remote areas of Pakistan? Don’t they see that something terrible is happening to the girls going to University in the heart of the capital Islamabad? Why Farzana Bari has not conducted a survey to find out the reasons of harassment in one of the leading university of the country? And why on earth has she not until now in all along her magnificent career even once tried to create awareness among the male students of the university against sexual harassment. May be Government of Pakistan can fund a consultancy or may be another foreign tour can be arranged for her so that she can go abroad and find out the reasons of criminal sex offences happening right under her nose?
 
All the efforts of women right activists have been for blind compliance of western feminism movements. Would any body define and design Gender Studies in Pakistani context? Please join your hands to save our culture that used to give respect to the women and girls. Please do something to save the young girls going to their Alma Maters from indecent threats at the hands of the males. Please save the repute of this wonderful institution that we know as Quaid e Azam International University. Dr.Farzana Bari; Please do something. 
                                                                                             The writer is a freelance columnist

On 4/8/09, Irtiza Ali <irtiz...@gmail.com> wrote:

With all due respect Mr Mohammad Boota, I really feel sorry for your loss. Its very common now from indian side that they treat Pakistani's like this. I also remember a kid who went to watch a cricket match & then his dead body was sent. Indians are insane. Honestly Pakistani media will/can never say against indian brutality. They always stick to their ego's/money & didn't give a single min of coverage to the 2008 Kashmir peaceful revolution. Now that CJ is reinstated & Pakistani media has given every Pakistani Justice then you can go & ask CJ to do something for which I know he won't.

again sorry for ur loss...Allah usko jald hee bhejay....IlahiAmin

WasSalam

[Shahzad Ahmed]

Dear Ali,

 

Thanks for providing insight information about D. Farzan Bri and one of the leading institution of this county. I strongly agree with the first and part of the passage that people like Farzana Bari are the “So called Champions of the Human rights who exploited the poor people in the name of Human rights. I have personally seen the media persons who are invited to take Dr. Bari's pictures during the protest and even directed to catch the special events like police is beating the women, people, or catching Dr. Bari during the demonstration.

 

This sort of people is doing these activities just for fame or to become a celebrity. What about those media persons who are the part of Dr. Bari’s drama????????

 

 I have spent five years of my life Quaid-e-Azam university. In second part, the picture of Quaid-e-Azam university you have portrayed it’s not real. As you are saying that female students are harassed or grabbed by the male students of the university.

 

I haven’t heard any story as you stated “A couple of years back, corpse of a young girl was found in the bushes right after the night of a function. The matter was never probed”

 

I agree that few teachers are committing this sort of activities that, exploiting the female students. But I don’t think that this is one way traffic at all, some times students are too involved in these cases.

 

I am afraid, the picture you are creating is not as worse as you are saying. The students who are studying in the university are grown people they are not kids. They can understand and think what is good or bad.

 

What I conclude from your statements that Qauid-e-Azam University is a place axis of evil rather than an academic institution so be careful to pass this sort of emails or statements.

 

Be realistic and don’t say anything that does not exist

 

 

 

2009/4/9 Ali Hussain <alihuss...@gmail.com>

[Kamran Haider]

dear All,   I have read many of the emails with this title but sorry to say to an extent I'm disappointed. We're discussing personalities and involved in mud-slugging instead of discussing the crime and those who did it? why it happened? how can we stop it? how we can give a terror-free/terrorist-free country to our children?   What if, for instance, Ms. Minallah has a worst track record - she's CIA agent or whatever you call her, but what brutality has been exposed, sadly on the name Islam, doesn't it need to be condemned?????   Everybody has a right to investigate it but the shit must not be pushed under the carpet just because it is exposed by an "infidel" or it could be a conspiracy. Come on, please come out a state of denial. there's saying in urdu "Kabotar (peagon) ki aakhain band karne ka ye matlub nahi ke bili nahi dekh rahi"    Don't we have responsibility to clean our own shit?   those who want to prob it look at the statements, Taliban spokesman Muslim Khan, have made since the footage was aired on tv channels. 1st on Samaa: it's according to Islam. She should have been stoned but taliban didn't do it because of the war like situation. next morning: Taliban did it. the way the punishment executed could be wrong but the punishment is according to Islam. It happened before an agreement signed between sufi mohammad and nwfp govt. it's an attempt to sabotage the accord. next day: no, the footage is not of Swat. we gave punishment to a woman. It happened in a room and children flogged her. those children were produced before media as well.    Allah enlightens us   tks kamran

--- On Mon, 4/6/09, Farzana Shah <jana...@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Farzana Shah <jana...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Samar Minallah: On whose agenda is trying to sabotage peace accord?

To: "Ali Hussain" <alihuss...@gmail.com> Cc: shaha...@gmail.com, rizwa...@hotmail.com, zanobi...@cnbcpakistan.com, ual...@hotmail.com, ukcorre...@hotmail.com, sye...@yahoo.com, abidul...@gmail.com, paka...@googlegroups.com, pakistanpe...@yahoogroups.com, paka...@gmail.com, pakm...@yahoogroups.com, paf_op...@yahoogroups.com, kashmiraf...@yahoogroups.com, pakpot...@googlegroups.com, muslims...@yahoogroups.com, ansar....@gmail.com, saeeda...@gmail.com, asif...@gmail.com, pressme...@gmail.com, pressp...@googlegroups.com, aisha.f...@phclondon.org, azhar...@geo.tv, faisa...@yahoo.com, b.sh...@mopa.gov.sy, bush...@yahoo.com, bhcl...@btconnect.com, iqbalsa...@yahoo.co.uk, hami...@geo.tv, li...@presstv.ir, infor...@alhayat.com, hesh...@presstv.ir, sou...@btconnect.com, zb...@yhoo.co.uk Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 8:41 PM

Dear Ali   Thats what i was saying that we need to reach to the bottom of the truth. As it is not possible to get up easily with such an ease and calm body language after getting 34  hard lashes.   Jana

Ali Hussain   Reporter   The Frontier Post, Islamabad & PPI Cell # 0345-5911734

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[Farzana Shah]

Dear Kamran

 

No one is pushing the brutality under the carpet. everyone of us in NWFP had condemnd the incident.

 

Now the onus is on the Supreme Court and Mr Chief Justice. So will anybody ask the court summon madam Summar Minallah, The Dawn news, and all other concerned who had published breaking news that the  man who had made the movie using his cell has called  these news mediawires.

 

 

hmmmm are you listening to me ? :)

 

Regards

Jana (Farzana Shah) Asian Tribune Correpondent in Pakistan

 

[tehseen ullah]

Dear all,

 

Whether the videotape was fake or real but the frequently changing statements of the Taliban spokesmen have proved that such incident were happened in Swat.

 

Regards,

Tehseen Khan

 

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Subject: Re: Samar Minallah: On whose agenda is trying to sabotage peace accord?
From: jana...@gmail.com

To: khai...@yahoo.com
CC: alihuss...@gmail.com; shaha...@gmail.com; rizwa...@hotmail.com; zanobi...@cnbcpakistan.com; ual...@hotmail.com; ukcorre...@hotmail.com; sye...@yahoo.com; abidul...@gmail.com; paka...@googlegroups.com; pakistanpe...@yahoogroups.com; paka...@gmail.com; pakm...@yahoogroups.com; paf_op...@yahoogroups.com; kashmiraf...@yahoogroups.com; pakpot...@googlegroups.com; muslims...@yahoogroups.com; ansar....@gmail.com; saeeda...@gmail.com; asif...@gmail.com; pressme...@gmail.com; pressp...@googlegroups.com; aisha.f...@phclondon.org; azhar...@geo.tv; faisa...@yahoo.com; b.sh...@mopa.gov.sy; bush...@yahoo.com; bhcl...@btconnect.com; iqbalsa...@yahoo.co.uk; hami...@geo.tv; li...@presstv.ir; infor...@alhayat.com; hesh...@presstv.ir; sou...@btconnect.com; zb...@yhoo.co.uk

[bishwajeet singh]

Hi,everybody,aslamwalikum

 

For the last one and a half months,I have been going through the newspapers and news channels regulary and am surprised with the interpretaions by different social scientists.Being a journalist,I fail to understand the interpretaions.Some say Pakistan is on the verge of collapse and an American report says it would collapse within six months.some say Taliban has entered Buner and will capture Islamabad in a month or two as if few people have left from a village to capture another village.Some say Taliban will capture Karachi.I have a word or two for all those print and television friends.We must not forget the fact that Taliban is a group and can't go beyond creating disturbances and nuisance.The whole of Pakistan can't be equated with Swat.Pakistan is a nation,a sovereign entity backed by International recognition and might.It is only a matter of will.If Pakistan as a state wills to annihilate Taliban,it would be just a matter of few days

 

We must not use words being used regularly in media;distinction must be made between a nation and a group

 

 

Thanking you,

Bishwajeet,

 

Associate Senior Producer,

Aajtak,New Delhi,

 

919811553072

[Rizwan Razi]

 
Saedar Gi
 
Sat Sri Akaal & Namastey
 
You must have heard that joke " Mein Is Ladki ki Shadi Mein Jab Bhi Ataa Hoon Meray Saath Aisey hi hoti hey".
 
This discussion regarding survival of Pakistan not beyond six months was started even before its creation and your Bapooo (I mean to say forefather) Wali Bhai Patail was the author of this theory. He persuaded Congress to accept Pakistan as it will not surive and request merger wihtin six months. Then onward, we keep on listening this jargin which has become cliche for us. Since we are habitual of such Jargins, therefore, there can not be any truth.
 
This internet generation Pakistan is new to this phenomenon, so they get worry immediately.
 
So please dont you worry about it. You must be disappointed that it will never happend as the geographical proximity of region does not allow it.
 
Cheers
 
Razi


 

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Subject: Re: Samar Minallah: On whose agenda is trying to sabotage peace accord?

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Mr. Singh,   you might be right that Swat should not be equated with Pakistan but the northwest should not be ignored at all. Pakistan doesn't mean just Punjab. People are worried because the northwest is burning. The fire has crossed into settled parts of NWFP. look Peshawar, capital of NWFP, kidnappings for ransom are on rise (police say criminals have joined Taliban and they're doing for making funds for "jihad" in Pakistan), everyday militants set fire container trucks carrying supplies for western forces, and sufi shrines are attacked. Nexst door in Khyber region, militants are charging tax from traders and shopkeepers and there is clear order from Mr. Mangal Bagh, a man who has two children has to donate for his force. In D.I. Khan, you can witnessed violence in sectarian lines. Hangu, Kohat, mardan, you name it and one tell you how Taliban are operating there. Sadly on the part government there's no resistence.   we are either saying Hanoos Delhi Door Hast (Delhi is still far away) or we're trying to justfy terrorism and terrorists' brutal acts by dubbing then reactionary acts to what Western forces have been doing in Afghanistan or conspiracy of "infidels".   I know many of you might be considering me "the bloody westernise pakistani" or "Pakistani journalist" but my point is let's not push shit under the carpet or turn your back to reality n facts. Take them boldly and fight them back.   For Mr. Razi: what i know a little bit about history of Pakistan: Mr. Jinnah was at first stage didn't want a separate state. he wanted a confideration. But he was forced to raise voice for separate land - thanks to Mr. Nehru and Patal. And unfortunately, those who opposed Pakistan (Islamist parties) became protectors and masters of this land.      chrz kamran +92 300 8560 944         --- On Sat, 4/11/09, bishwajeet singh <rbish...@gmail.com> wrote:

From: bishwajeet singh <rbish...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Samar Minallah: On whose agenda is trying to sabotage peace accord?

[Ali Hussain]

Dear All

 

I always hear a word ‘independent media’ but not really know what independent media means,,,,,,,,,,, being journalists you all might be very known about the situation in Kurram Agency, located in West of the country with Afghan border also known “Durand Line” and is an important and strategic part of the country.

 

But unfortunately, the part is being ignored not only by the rulers but also by the so-called independent media of which I am also a part, just only the region is predominating by a particular sect.

 

Kurram Agency had been the scene for bloody violence with the recent deadliest one that started in April 2007 and continued till November 2008 that left hundreds killed, wounded and thousands other homeless. Now after the peace accord was signed by the rival tribes, peace was restored a little but soon was violated by the militants who again started kidnapping and targeting people of the particular tribe.

 

The only road—Thall-Parachinar road, that links Kurram Agency with the rest of the country has been closed for more than two months after the series of killing a kidnapping was started again by the militants. Ironically, when a single person is killed in Swat or else where in the country, the country’s electronic media starting to disseminate the news with its Breaking News,,,, (I am not happy with the killing of these innocent people but I am just trying to bring the issue in your kind notice). Some 2500 people including women and children have been killed sine 2007 in these deadliest fighting but nether the rulers paid their due heeds to comfort the locals nor the media highlighted miseries of these people.

 

You will be shocked to hear that locals of Parachinar, the headquarters of Kurram Agency, when want to go rest of the cities of Pakistan they use Afghanistan’s four to five provinces to travel to Peshawar, which in normal days one can reach only in 5 hours.

 

Now a day too, the locals of Parachinar and rest of the areas are again the worst victim of economic blackout by the armed militants for more than two months who have occupied the singe gateway passing through the areas of the other sect.

 

The people of the areas have their history of loyalty to the country but these days the strange behaviour by the rulers and the media are questionable for them. You will feel these miseries of the people when you himself pass through these.

I myself wanted to join my family on the last Eid-ul-Azha after a year and went via Afghanistan to Parachinar. It was very strange to see those Afghanis who when came in our villages after the Russian War in 1979, we serve them like real brothers, even gave them rooms in our own house for residing and divided edibles with them but were very arrogant on us when we were arrested briefly in Gardaiz Province of Afghanistan because we were non Afghans. We were locked for the reason in small room for sometime and were released after through investigations. Every one was interrogated as there should not be any Urdu speaker.

 

Hammm--- we were subjected to the interrogations by those Afghanis due to which our own country is in a war like situation where they are moving as freely as Pakistan is their grand father’s home.

 

Independent media,,,, I am still confused as what does it mean, my own news story to highlight these miseries is not being published. The children of the areas are worst victim of mental torture and our so-called civil society activists and champions of human rights are silent. Whether children residing in Kurram Agency are not human beings or whether they are not Pakistanis, whether they don’t have the right of basic needs like health facilities or they don’t have the right to go to school or they are not the human beings to provide with the necessary food items.

 

Sorry if anybody does not agree with me and received any problem.

 

Regards

Ali

 

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Subject: Re: Samar Minallah: On whose agenda is trying to sabotage peace
accord?

Mr. Singh,
 
you might be right that Swat should not be equated with Pakistan but the northwest should not be ignored at all. Pakistan doesn't mean just Punjab. People are worried because the northwest is burning. The fire has crossed into settled parts of NWFP. look Peshawar, capital of NWFP, kidnappings for ransom are on rise (police say criminals have joined Taliban and they're doing for making funds for "jihad" in Pakistan), everyday militants set fire container trucks carrying supplies for western forces, and sufi shrines are attacked. Nexst door in Khyber region, militants are charging tax from traders and shopkeepers and there is clear order from Mr. Mangal Bagh, a man who has two children has to donate for his force. In D.I. Khan, you can witnessed violence in sectarian lines. Hangu, Kohat, mardan, you name it and one tell you how Taliban are operating there.
Sadly on the part government there's no resistence.
 
we are either saying Hanoos Delhi Door Hast (Delhi is still far away) or we're trying to justfy terrorism and terrorists' brutal acts by dubbing then reactionary acts to what Western forces have been doing in Afghanistan or conspiracy of "infidels".
 
I know many of you might be considering me "the bloody westernise pakistani" or "Pakistani journalist" but my point is let's not push shit under the carpet or turn your back to reality n facts. Take them boldly and fight them back.
 
For Mr. Razi: what i know a little bit about history of Pakistan: Mr. Jinnah was at first stage didn't want a separate state. he wanted a confideration. But he was forced to raise voice for separate land - thanks to Mr. Nehru and Patal.
And unfortunately, those who opposed Pakistan (Islamist parties) became protectors and masters of this land.
    
chrz
kamran
+92 300 8560 944
 
 
   

--- On Sat, 4/11/09, bishwajeet singh <rbish...@gmail.com> wrote:
From: bishwajeet singh <rbish...@gmail.com>

Subject: Re: Samar Minallah: On whose agenda is trying to sabotage peace accord?

[Saj]

Dear Kamran

 

The situation in Northwest and in the rest of the country is very much similar. Kidnapping for money, killing, arms smuglling, police encounters, suicides etc make no distinction in areas and people. This is true that criminals had joined hands with Taliban. The reason is that Taliban need to increase their finances, military strength and manpower to fight with government forces and criminals need protection from the same opponent. If the writ of the government is restored in the areas than not only taliban but also the criminals will also loose their paradise. Otherwise, the kidnapping also happens in Karachi, is that also done by Taliban? What about Lahore, Faisalabad? is that all done by taliban? Are taliban engage in kidnapping from last 60 years? Similarly, Pakistan consist of whole Pakistan not a single part of it, whether it is Panjab, Sindh, NWFP, Balochistan, Kashmir... There is no need to tell each other that Pakistan consist of which part of Pakistan.

 

As far as tax charging thing is concern. This is logical and quite understandable. Everyone, who will engage in such military activities, will try to explore every option available to them to maximise their revenues. Overall, they are not getting ready for the polo match. They are preparing for a fight with the regular army of the country. Moreover, MQM has good history in collecting bhatta/jaga tax from Karachians. I see no difference between so called TAX charged by Taliban and the Bhatta/Jaga Tax charged by MQM. This is not it. Many of the most popular BADMASH of Punjab are used to collect Bhatta from people, such as Atif and Arshad, both Chaudhary. Later died in fake or original police encounters. Both were well known for their affiliations with PML N. All of such types are the same, there is no difference.

 

Mr. Jinnah learned from his experience and changed the destination, well on time and lead the Musalmanan e Pakistan to the right direction. One good proof that his decision was the best out of the options available is what happened to Sikhs after 1947. See? They were against Partition and were thinking that they will be safer and secure in Hindu dominated country. I do not say more than that, as every one knows the story.

 

As far as the original topic, girl flogging is conern. There could be not a single man on earth, who can take a risk of acknoledging this video, real. Otherwise, we would request him to receive the same number of lashes on his back too and show us that how a 17 year old NAZUK PARI could just walk away, as she did.

 

Dear Bishwajeet

 

Wasalam

 

Thanks for your arguments too. Well, I tell you what. When my elder brother went to uk in 1990 for the first time. He used to call us every second day and tell us this surprising news that Pakistan is going to break into many. So we must migrate to UK too. Neither we had that much resources at time nor Pakistan broken, till now. American says, Pakistan will brake in 6 months, they will be saying the same after six months. So no need to bother. Countries do not split with think tanks reports, but when it fails to give the due right of existance to its inhabitants, it breaks.

 

Thanks

 

Stay in good health and faith.

 

Sajjad Ahmad

http://www.markthetruth.com

http://www.pakistanfront.wordpress.com

 

Mob: 0306 52 30 33 7

 

From: Kamran Haider

Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 5:32 PM

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[Kamran Haider]

Love it Mr. Sajaad wht you said! you have just proved truth wht point I tried to make. You tried to justified Taliban's brutality and actions. Look, two wrongs don't make one right. I'm not supporting or neglecting wht MQM or others have been doing. My point is that we should open our eyes and don't take everybody clean and commander or protector of a religion who use the name of it. Trust me, MQM or any other criminal are not defaming Islam BUT Taliban do becaue they're using Islam to impose their agenda. Taliban are hardcore criminal, not holy fighters.   I'm not at all against talks/peace deals with Taliban but these must stop radicalisation and Talibanisation of society instead they give a room to radicals to become more powerful and spread its agenda through terror. Everybody has right to propogate what he believes is right but don't try to impose it on others. tell me how many people in Pakistan or world are cursing or abusing Tableegi jamaat or people? they travel everywhere. Tell me, how many times Prophet Mohammad Peace Be Upon Him carried sword to impose Shariah (offensive)?   I think you have never been to northwest of Pakistan. please visit Peshawar and then Lahore or any city big of Punjab and talk to people. you could see the difference and draw a good picture. you'll feel insecurity among masses in peshawar. And for your info, I was born in Peshawar, grew up there, roamed around. I'm proud i belong to that land but at the same time, I'm sad what has happened to it and what they're doing to it (no offence, just to make my point dear).     And Kashmir is neither part Pakistan nor India. It's Kashmiris to decide their destination. so please ignore such impressions that kashmir is part of any these two countries.          About the video or the girl - dear that's you're observation or opnion, which could be wrong or right. You didn't investigat it so one should take it as any opnion, not a statement backed by athentic probe.   Journalists reported that incident happened. It was Samar Minallah or Taliban who could accept it or deny it. At first stage, Mr. Muslim Khan chose to take responsibility but later denied it (you can see his statement in my early email). Residents of Swat said this footage is available on mobiles as well as on CDs which are sold in Mingora.   chrz        --- On Mon, 4/13/09, Saj <sajja...@hotmail.com> wrote:

+9...

[Saj]

Kamran bhai, I did not tried to justify the brutality of anyone but you are trying to extract the meaning of your choice from what I said. I had presented the ground realities and said that how and why such groups do not hesitate to adopt criminals, gangsters, looters and kidnappers. I do not know how and why you termed it as brutality and thrown in my basket. I am not a professional journalist, though I had given myself a designation of Freelance Writer and Researcher. But you are a journalist and you must consider it a part of your responsibility to deliver the information, merely in its RAW FORM to the general public and let them process it by themselves and let them make their opinion by themselves. Delivery of processed information should be considered as information tempering, as the intended recipient had to loose his right of processing.

 

No number of wrongs could make a right. However, the wrong help to make the right decision. There is no other opinion to it, as far as I know the world. Therefore, the actual massage in my last post was that you had more than 20 good years properly integrate the areas into main stream of the country, which you did not do. You gave no justice to them, you implemented the same stupid, so called justice system there too. You gave no education to them, no resources, no support, no hospital, no school, no professional education and job too. In result they left uneducated, un-modernized, backward, illiterate and what's not. Now, they took over the system and took the matters back in their hands and you are shouting over them?

 

But this thing is not that simple. The reality is that the involvement of enemy countries and presence of military in the area is the major cause of all unrest. Our first need is to eliminate enemy involvements and then take our military out of these areas. As everybody knows and you too that people in NWFP do not like the presence of the military their. However, for genuine reasons, they never resisted military presence. Such as, if we have to face the military threats from other countries. This is first thing, which we need to do.

 

Secondly, and now, just leave the matters on them and let them do what they intend to do. If you will keep interfering, they will also keep retaliating and this fight will give them a good excuse to present to the local population that look, the government and the military never let us implement the Islamic system. There is no U Turn and no reconsideration could be given to the decisions, which are already taken in this regard. Now, the best approach for us is wait and see. If we give them free hand to do what they are demanding, then it will take not more than couple of years and then the people of the areas will throw them out by themselves. Otherwise, you spend 10 good years in military involvement there and you must get ready to spend 10 more.

 

And, instead questioning and bashing, it would be more beneficial for us if you come up with possible solutions. Talking talking, meeting with them, have a non-stop contact with them, mazakarat etc are the best way to help them change their minds. Fighting fighting is what our enemies want. So give the government full support in their effort to bring peace in Swat at all cost. Some say that militarily we had accepted defeat by signing this agreement, which is far from reality. Our victory is in our survival and in peace, no matter in what shape or form.

 

As far as MQM thing is concern. You can't say that they do not using Islam and are not defaming Islam. You know and you know very well how they doing this. Though, everybody has their own style of doing this. MQM's so called religious night parties are only to stop any possible sweep of religious parties in Karachi. Do you not know that how they kill people, bhatta/jaga stories, slaughters heads as gifts to Interior Minister and iron gates and road diggings 6 feet deep and 6 feet wide to force the tanks to stop? After all that, if one say Islam, Islam in every so called address to the nation, then what will you call them. They, recently, called up the meeting of Ulema Karam in Karachi to bring Swat agreement under discussion. But they already expressed their opinion over this deal. So what you expect from that particular meeting of Ulema, powered by MQM?

 

Tableeghi Jamats had not reported any such incident anywhere in the world. But they could not be linked to such type of discussion. However, it is your choice, you drag in whoever, you like.

 

I believe you are proud of the Pakistani land, instead of A part of it.

 

Kashmir had been called "Sheh Rug" of Pakistan by Mr. Jinnah. There are hundreds of thousands of events reported by local and international electronic and print media, which proved that Kashmiris want to be a part of Pakistan. Moreover, whenever a plebiscite will held in whole Kashmir, Kashimiris would surely vote in favor of Pakistan. Moreover, while explaining the word "Pakistan" to Mountbatten on 17th of may 1947, Mr. Jinnah said, "The derivation of the word Pakistan - P for Panjab; A for Afghan(i.e Pathans NWFP); I for nothing because that letter was not in the word in Urdu; S for Sindh and Tan for last syllable of Balochistan" This explanation become part of the official publication in UK. Keeping these facts in mind, I believe that I have enough reason to consider Kashmir as Pakistan and you can also feel comfortable while doing so.

 

I would love to investigate the video. Will you please call samar and say her to come to me with the original copy of the video so that I can verify it with the help of an expert? Until then, I AM NOT READY TO CONSIDER THIS VIDEO, ORIGINAL. Simple as that. Reason? Because, I simply cannot understand that how a girl could just walk away after receiving so many lashes on her ass. This is simply not possible. By the way, our great, honest and brave CJ had already took suo moto. Do somebody would like to enlighten me that as now CJ took notice of this, where should he start from, now. At the first stage, should the CJ not call up samar baji and her handler, who made this video? When he was calling other and irrelevant senior civil servants in his court, do he forget to call the girl too? Do you not think that the medical checkup of the girl should have been done under orders of the CJ? Lot's of thing Kaman, you can't answer all of that. Just leave it.

 

I do not care what Taliban rep. is saying. But this is common tactic in such groups to accept the responsibility of every single incident to mount pressure over government. As Mahsud took responsibility of killing in immigration centre in USA.

 

Thanks.

 

Saj

[Rizwan Razi]

 
In response to Mr Kamran Haider's these lines ''For Mr. Razi: what i know a little bit about history of Pakistan: Mr. Jinnah was at first stage didn't want a separate state. he wanted a confideration. But he was forced to raise voice for separate land - thanks to Mr. Nehru and Patal.

And unfortunately, those who opposed Pakistan (Islamist parties) became protectors and masters of this land.''

 

I think the issue which is he has tried to elaborate in the mail is just like ' Maroon Ghutna Phootay Aankh'. I will not say it a back stabbing as I was discussing some other issue but he has jumped into discussion without even try to knowing the fact that what was being discussed.

I will respond to this issue because the under discussion issue was not this rather it was an immediate response to a continuous blamegame fantom by Indian minds to defame Pakistan at every forum, through friendly as well as hostile so called independent Indian and Pakistani media which takes 'full line' from New Delhi foriegn office.

 

As far as opposition of Pakistan by religious group are concerned you have tried to prove that history, argument, and logic has nothing to do with your contentions. just for your kind information, it was a faction Jamiat Ulema Hind, led by Maulana Hussain Ahmed Madni and not the whole Muslim Ulema community. (Maulana Madni was alleged to have bribe from congress by his worthy colleagues. Of course liquidity pregnant Hindu community must have the proper use of their money). Only objectionable slogan about Quid e Azam (RA) declaring him Kafr-e-Azam (Naql-e-Kfr, Kfr Na Bashid) was raised by Maulana Mazhar Ali Azhar of Majlas-e-Ahrar, a Shiat by faith and an inactive member of Majlas who was disowned by Majlas-e-Ahrar in later stage and Agha Shorash Kashmiri in his autobiography has writtent the whole situation that how he found him recieving money from congress.

 

What he would say about Ali Brothers, Maulana Shabbeer Ahmed Usmani and many more Ulema who were supporting Muslim League and cause of sub continent, thats why Mr Jinnah allowed Maulana Usmani to prepapre objective resolution for making Islam and Quran as sole source of legislation in Pakistan. As far as Jamaat Islami was concerned, Kia Piddi aur Kia Piddi Ka shorab. This newly formed Muslim reformist group of less than 100 people was in its infant stages thus nothing to do with the then politics.

  
Razi
 

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Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 23:43:24 -0700
From: khai...@yahoo.com

Subject: Re: Samar Minallah: On whose agenda is trying to sabotage peace accord?

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[Kamran Haider]

dear sajjad,   if you read your previous email again, you'll find you did try to jutify or ask a third person to make a comment on tht (anyway it is not the case)   look when i say brutality, it is my expression/opinion but listen I as journalist never used that in my report. that's what journalism demands. don't put your bias in your report and since it's discussion so I enjoy liberty to express what i feel (but in limits and a decent way).   Dear, please address contradictions in your thought (no offense). you're wiiling to give liberty to Taliban that they do it what they want but impose your willing on Kashmiris that they accept Pakistan. if we admit they want Pakistan and accept all polls true, even then let them vote and then count how many votes are bagged in your favour. Kashmir is a part of Pakistan that is your willing and everyone should respect that but that doesn't mean Kashmiris go by your willing.   Dear, again there's talk of enemies. Look in Swat case, there're two parties - Taliban and army or govt. You select who is enemy. Who is toeing the policy of Pakistan's enemy?    chrz kamran

[zahir shah]

Dear All

Wait for a few days, you will see a lot coming next . What difference will it make for the civil society, the government or the militants. Is there any difference among them, I don't think so, every one is trying to exploit the poor masses, who can become their case studies, subjects or followers. I have a suggestion, dont waste your time leave them alone, they all know what are they doing and why, sab ki dal roti ka chakar hai, forgive them

regards

zahir sherazi

[Dr Shahid Qureshi]

 

www.thelondonpost.net 
 

9/11 Cover Story Demolished?
By Tariq Majeed Thursday 16 April 2009
The fundamental questions any lay person would ask: (a) Why George Bush and now Obama Administration not ordered a criminal investigation by federal authorities into the murderous attacks on the US soil? (b) why none of the people deployed to defend  the sovereignty of the US questioned, charged, fired for being negligent of their duties that some criminals manage to breach the multi billion $ security? Who bankrupted and made US a financially failed State?
Most People may be unaware that a hotly contested debate was going on in America over the government’s explanation for the 9/11 air attacks. The Bush regime‘s story, fully endorsed by the Obama administration, that on September 11, 2001, 19 raw Arab pilots outsmarted the US intelligence and security systems, hijacked four Boeing 757s and, flying on paths of their own choice with total freedom, knocked down the World Trade Centre Towers in New York and smashed a portion of the Pentagon in Washington, had been challenged right at the beginning.	A “9/11 truth movement” was born. In January 2002, journalist Barrie Zwicker questioned the official story of 9/11 on Canadian national TV in seven commentaries. In autumn the same year, Ian Woods, in Ontario, founded Global Outlook: The Magazine of 9/11 Truth.
Carol Valentine, president of Public Action Inc, posted a challenging critique on the internet in the third week of September, updating it on October 5, 2001. She asked how was it that the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), the North American Aerospace Defence Command (NORAD), the National Security Agency (NSA) and the Pentagon failed so utterly in obeying the standing orders for dealing with hijacked planes over America. She commented: “Before Sept 11, the combined forces of US military and domestic intelligence, the CIA, the FBI, the NSA, the Defence Intelligence Agency, were clueless that such a catastrophic event would occur. Yet a day or so later, the FBI had secured the names and mug shots of 19 hijackers! How did the FBI know who the hijackers were? After all, all the witnesses are dead. On Sept 30, I looked at the passenger lists of those four flights. To my surprise, the lists contained none of the hijackers’ names! Yet we are asked to believe that the culprits took four jet airliners, with four sets of crews and four sets of passengers, armed with plastic knives and box cutters. And we must believe that a man who lives in a cave in the middle of nowhere—Osama Bin Laden—was the mastermind!” She cited proofs that hidden controllers on ground had used remote-control technology, Global Hawk, to wrest the flight controls from the pilots and direct the planes to their targets. Other critics were equally incisive in pinpointing the irreconcilable anomalies in the story. They maintained that these attacks could not have been carried out without the key authorities being complicit in the act.  But these were efforts at a limited scale, ignored by the mainstream media, which, being a part of the military-industrial powerhouse, supported the US Establishment. The American masses, stunned with awe and anger at the monstrous attacks, were too overwhelmed by the media blitz against Osama and Al-Qaida to take notice of the irrationality of the official story.      The Establishment ignored the challengers, but it had to explain the glaring gaps and contradictions in its cover story. The media, too, was obliged to report these gaps. It did so—without disturbing the main story! The official explanations led to more questions because the new explanations differed with the old ones.  In 2002, came Thierry Meyssan’s 9/11—The Big Lie, which, the New York Times noted, “challenges the entire official version of the Sept 11 attacks.”          The French political scientist pointed out wide discrepancies in the various statements of President George Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Chairman JCS General Richard Myers and other officials. He came out with a startling disclosure that what hit the Pentagon was not a Boeing plane but an “AGM-type missile, armed with a hollow charge and depleted uranium BLU tip, guided by GPS, and transmitting a friendly code to enter the protected airspace!” He explained: “This kind of weapon does look like a small civilian airplane, but it’s not a plane at all. It produces a whistling noise similar to that of a fighter aircraft, can be guided precisely enough to enter a building by a window, can pierce the toughest armour and can cause an instantaneous fire giving off heat in excess of 3,600o Fahrenheit.” He drew the conclusion from multiple proofs: photographic evidence, testimony of eye witnesses, absence of a Boeing’s debris at the site, the very low height of the impact point, the much smaller hole at the impact point than the diameter of a 757’s nose, and the sudden, gigantic fire started by the explosion. It shook the very roots of the government’s cover story.  A “9/11 truth movement” was born. In January 2002, journalist Barrie Zwicker questioned the official story of 9/11 on Canadian national TV in seven commentaries. In autumn the same year, Ian Woods, in Ontario, founded Global Outlook: The Magazine of 9/11 Truth. The concrete challenges to the thin cover story could not be ignored. The debate had set in. The Establishment dubbed the challengers as conspiracy theorists, but the tactic was trivial. The challenges had to be met with solid responses. By this time the cover story had been propped up with more machinations, including boastful confessional audio/video statements said to be of Al-Qaida leaders, but, around the world, doubts about it were also growing.    By the end of 2003, the cover story was getting a drubbing, not in the mainstream media from which the debate was absent, but on the internet, in seminars, talks, radio commentaries, articles in local magazines and newspapers in the US and Canada. The story’s credibility was badly shaken by books, such as, The War on Freedom: How and Why America was Attacked September 11, 2001 (2002) by Nafeez M. Ahmed in England, The CIA and The 11 September Terror (2003) by former German minister Andreas von Bulow, The Terror Timeline (2004) by Paul Thompson in America. Dissatisfaction with the official theory on 9/11 had grown. Its challengers were looked upon as alternative theorists. Concerned people and professionals, engineers, scientists, experts in chemicals and explosives, fire-fighting, metallurgy, etc, formed educative and eye-opener groups like, Scholars for 9/11 Truth, Pilots for 9/11 Truth, Veterans for 9/11 Truth, Professors Question 9/11. The 9/11 Truth Movement that became an informal umbrella for the other groups received a big boost with Professor David Ray Griffin joining it in early 2004. He had already authored a remarkable work, The New Pearl Harbour —Disturbing Questions about the Bush Administration and 9/11, and would go on to produce three other books of outstanding investigation that explain almost all the puzzles and mysteries in the 9/11 attacks.  President Bush’s failure to set up a commission of inquiry even within a year’s time of the 9/11 attacks had increased the doubts about the official story. At last, the commission was set up at the end of November 2002. Its report issued in July 2004 made matters worse for the official story. Throwing all logic and the principles of investigation out, the commission had based its inquiry on the premise that Osama and Al-Qaida were responsible for the Sept 11 attacks! Into this conclusion, the commission tried to fit the evidence and statements, concerning the attacks, given by the functionaries of the various official organizations and the other witnesses cleared by these organizations. The commission’s explanations were implausible. An example: why didn’t the air force intercept the hijacked planes? The gist of the commission’s circuitous answer was because the military did not know about the hijackings until after the flights had crashed, and this was because the FAA had failed to warn the NORAD in time! In this and in other cases, its findings turned out to be false under close scrutiny. To lay its report bare, Dr Griffin produced a whole book, The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions (2005). In it, he pointed out over a hundred instances of deception, where truth had been hidden under falseness. Seeing its story cracking under the weighty and influential arguments produced by the alternative theorists, the Establishment arranged for a series of publications to give its story new strength. The first in the series was “9/11: Debunking the Myths,” which appeared in Popular Mechanics in March 2005; all the other publications appeared in 2006. Vanity Fair (August 2006) published “9/11 Live: The NORAD Tapes” by Michael Bronner.  Bronner was an associate producer of the movie United 93 which faithfully depicted the commission’s new account that averred that the military could not have shot this flight down. The new account widely differed from the military’s original account published on 18 September 2001 and made it look like a lie. It was obvious relevant tapes had been doctored. Evidence for it was put forward later by Dr Griffin in a study. The movie United 93 was based on a fabricated story. One of the much-hyped claims of the cover story, which was a star feature in the movie also, that nine or more cell phone calls had been made by passengers of Flight 93 turned out to be false by the testimony of a staff member of FBI at Zacarias Moussaoui’s trial in April 2006. According to the testimony, the passengers made only two cell phone calls. However, even the ‘two cell phone calls’ stood negated, because “the evidence submitted by the prosecution included telephone company records of various calls made by various alleged terrorists, but did not include any phone company records of any of the alleged calls from the airplanes.”    The next piece defending the cover story was Without Precedent: The Inside Story of the 9/11 Commission. It was authored by Thomas Keane and Lee Hamilton, the commission’s chair and vice chair. It was publicized as an authentic record of the September 11 episode. But, with the findings of the commission held in dispute, or rather disrepute, this book was not considered credible even by the ordinary critics. This was followed by a lengthy essay, “Answers to Frequently Asked Questions,” published by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), which is an agency of the US Department of Commerce. It was more of the same thesis, defending the official version of 9/11.  The major elements of the American media, on their side, were also hammering at the challenging theories. Lev Grossman, a leading member of the media moguldom, wrote a scathing essay, “Why the 9/11 Conspiracies Won’t Go Away,” Time (3 Sept 2006).  On similar lines, appeared Debunking 9/11 Myths: Why Conspiracy Theories Can’t Stand Up to the Facts, edited by David Dunbar and Brad Reagan. This was an expansion of the Popular Mechanics article of March 2005. To give it an aura of authenticity, it was embellished with a foreword by a notable American nationalist, Senator John McCain (who later became the Republican nominee in the 2008 presidential election). The book was impressive in its format and style. It purported to boldly confront and answer the allegations against the official explanations. The book’s publicist announced: “This groundbreaking investigation analyzes—and ultimately disproves—the 20 most prominent conspiracy claims.” The debate now moved toward the point of culmination, because this book was addressed directly to the challengers.  The Establishment thought the NIST thesis and this book would be a big blow to the challengers. But it wasn’t. The challengers had been engaged in monumental inquiry and research effort. Their counter attack on the cover story’s new defences was quick and lethal. In June 2006, Barrie Zwicker put his outstanding book, Towers of Deception—The Media Cover-up of 9/11 in the arena. He selected 26 exhibits or dubious points along with photographs, “out of hundreds of pieces of evidence,” to let the readers decide what was flagrantly wrong with the cover story on each of these points. But the challengers’ masterstroke, out in early 2007, was Prof Griffin’s Debunking 9/11 Debunking—An Answer to the Defenders of the Official Conspiracy Theory. A distinguished reviewer wrote: “In this astonishing and fearsome book Dr Griffin rigorously and brilliantly first dissects and then demolishes the recent published accounts that purport to debunk the critics of the Bush Administration’s official explanations of the events of 9/11.” A former senior CIA official, Bill Christison, observed: “[It] is a superb compendium of the strong body of evidence showing the official US Government story of what happened on September 11, 2001 to be almost certainly a monstrous series of lies.” This book is a point by point masterful, cutting critique of the components of the official theory as expounded in the defenders’ main publications. The NIST claimed the WTC Towers had collapsed mainly due to very big fires burning at 1830oF for 56 minutes. Griffin’s book quotes facts to disprove this statement. “The temperature of jet fuel fires does not exceed 1800oF and Underwriters Laboratories certified the steel in the WTC Towers to 2000oF for six hours.” Computer models, calculations by engineers, and examination of the pieces of steel from the debris showed that the temperature of the fires did not go beyond 1200oF. As for the fact that the Towers collapsed vertically at virtually free fall speed, the cover story’s defenders had to accept it. They tried to craft theories to explain it but in vain. WTC 1 had come down in 11 seconds and WTC 2 in 9 seconds—“speeds that approximate that of a ball dropped from similar height in a vacuum.” Only explosives could do it. Griffin cites additional evidence in this regard: explosions heard and puffs of smoke seen by witnesses, pulverization into powder of the non-metallic constituents of the Towers, sulfidation of steel samples found in the debris  (sulphur being a constituent of explosives), and exceptionally quick clearing of the site. “Virtually all of the steel—99.7 per cent of it, meaning about 90,000 tons—was removed and sold to scrap dealers who put most of it on ships to Asia, before it could be properly examined.” The scientific, technical, physical and circumstantial proofs that the Towers were brought down by the controlled demolition process using explosives placed before hand at selected spots in the whole structure were so conclusive as to end the debate on the causes of their collapse. So, where did Osama Bin Laden and Al-Qaida stand? They had no role in the 9/11 attacks. According to the pre-planned overall design they were to be used as the ‘public face of the terrible enemy of America and the West’ and as the pretext for launching the so-called ‘war against terrorism’—allowing the US to invade and occupy Muslim countries and to stifle the freedom and rights of the American people. Osama and Al-Qaida were absent from the debate. These names even did not appear in the book by Dunbar and Reagan! The defenders could not bring them in the debate. They could not say Al-Qaida had prevented the military from intercepting the hijacked planes, or caused communications breakdown between FAA and NORAD, or jammed all the satellite-based and ground warning radars of the responsible military and civil organizations! For the challengers, Osama and Al-Qaida were irrelevant to any discussion of 9/11, because it was an inside job by the Bush Administration.    A sure lie detector for the cover story was the collapse of WTC Building 7. This 47-storey building, 355 feet away from the North Tower and still farther from the South Tower, was not struck by an airplane nor hit by any significant amount of falling debris, but it collapsed at 5:20 pm on the fateful day. What made it fall? The explanation that the raging fire started by the debris of the Towers had brought WTC 7 down could not stand up to examination. More debris had fallen on Buildings 4, 5 and 6 and the fires there had been bigger than that of WTC 7, but they did not collapse. Seeing that a fake answer could not explain the puzzle, the crafters of the cover story tried to hide the WTC 7 collapse from the public as much as possible. It was pathetic that the 9/11 Commission made no mention of WTC 7 in its 571-page report! The Building’s almost perfectly symmetrical collapse, with the whole structure coming straight down at free-fall speed (about 6.6 seconds), clearly indicated that it was a planned implosion using explosives. In Griffin’s words, “The collapse of WTC 7 is widely thought to provide the strongest evidence that 9/11 was an inside job.” In fact, it is equally true for practically every aspect of the weird attacks. Subject the facts and the available evidence to critical analysis, and you reach the same conclusion. Thierry Meyssan has done the exercise, and declares: “The attacks were thus not ordered by a fanatic who believed he was delivering divine punishment, but by a group present within the American State apparatus.” The US government has withdrawn from the debate. It has exhausted its stock of spurious theories to support, in the words of an American TV commentator, “the lies and cover-up, called the official story of 9/11/01, which is the greatest conspiracy theory ever perpetrated on the American public.” Its victims, much more than the Americans, are the Muslims of the whole world, especially of Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan. To expose the 9/11 Lie and the terror networks that promote this Lie should be of utmost and immediate concern for the Organization of the Islamic Conference and the rulers, the intelligentsia and the media of the Muslim countries.      The writer is an analyst of the game of global control.

  

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Dr. sahib I am glad to see that you have posted something which many will obviously like to brush under the carpet as  'conspiracy theories'. That is the easiest way for suppressing questioning official govern mental positions. On the that fatal 9/11 day, I used to work with CBS NEWS program 60 Minutes and worked with a producer George Crile, who is also author of "Charlie Wilson's War", he like a good gentleman and most famous investigative reporter acknowledged me as his source person in the book and most of his investigative pieces in our region. We had just before the 9/11 episode completed a series of news documentaries on how and what the consequences of the failed cruise missile attack of august 1998 where on the Afghan people and our tribal people were in general. We were allowed access by the Taliban and our footage dominated the airwaves right after 911.

I personally was shocked, for as an investigative reporter, the official story right after the episode just did not add up and was so full of holes that maybe planes could fly through them. I challenged the official  position based on "after action reporting" which I compiled and sent to my producer at 60 Minutes and at Evening News. Consequently, I was stringed out of the Evening News loop and was awarded the highest investigative reporting award called the "Edward R.Murrow" award for investigative reporting, but for another story, called the Merchants of Mass Destruction.

However, i did not stop and kept sending more and more evidence related to how it was not possible to believe the official story and had a major falling out, as to me covering what was really happening afterwards in the context of the fake war on terror was truly disgusting.

Later I compiled all the material I had collected and put it in a book form, which nobody would publish internationally, I called it "If not Al-qaeeda". My payments were stopped and after the sad and un timely death of George Crile, I refused to work any further with CBS NEWS. 

Have put the above to your notice, so as to let all know the price we have to pay for stating what is not desirable by powers that be. Having said that, i do feel it as our duty to keep all the facts related to this gory drama in our minds and even if anyone feels that 911 is not a false flag operation, should atleast consider it as a reality till any court of law declares it otherwise.

Just look at the fall out of 911, our people (Pakistanis) are suffering, what did we have to do with this episode. Nothing, except for Mush willingness to play ball with Bush and just simply look at the consequence, war has spilled over to our back yard and I wonder how should we deal with all this, as obviously the so called militants are not acting in our country or beliefs interests, but then neither is bulk of our intelligentsia and the less we say about out government the better it is, for what option do they have as the public at large lies prostrate in front of their doings. The Taliban from afghanistan state they are fighting  a just war for their country has been occupied by western forces and they are fighting for their freedom, they have fought for the last 7 years and say that they will fight till another 70.

I would like to share with you all my mentors teaching, which was that 1/2 a story = a complete lie, so please I request all of you to never compromise on this basic yardstick, while doing your stories.

Best regards to all.

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Great and thanks Mr Shahid,

 

Just one basic question? Can we ever have yardstick in this market oriented society.There was a time earlier when the fourth estate acted very much on lines ,more than what we call yardstick.But not now.Once you talk about it ,you pack your bags;it is the game of points and trps.

 

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The London Post Who shopped Pakistani students - ‘very big terror plot?’
By Dr Shahid Qureshi Sunday 26 April 2009
Rule of law is the corner stone of British values and democracy which is as many believe was tarnished by some illegal and doggy policies of Tony Blair. Surely Prime Minister Gordon need not to put his feet into Tony Blair’s messy shoes and dirty tracks?   The most important question is how British Police and counter terrorism agents and even Prime Minister Gordon Brown led to believe a “very big plot” against the United Kingdom toppled in a hurry in Manchester, followed by the army of journalists and cameras. What was the source or sources of this credible intelligence led operation? Why was executive action taken in a hurry with the media hype without considering the damage it could cause the friendly relations between Pakistan and Britain?
One analyst said that ‘it seems that British establishment is in some kind of lobby led pressure to produce results or some kind of ‘terror plot’ after every few months or so? It seems probably to keep British Muslims and especially vibrant and law abiding Pakistani community under pressure? Are they listening and connecting to wrong people? Some reportedly dodgy characters who are running the ‘shops of fighting extremism’ in Britain are not helping at all?	United Kingdom’s Strategy for Countering International Terrorism  published March 2009, ‘between 2001 and 31st March 2008, over 1,450 terrorism related arrests took place, of which 1/3rd led to a charge with three-quarters of these resulted in a conviction.
A senior analyst said, ‘recently appointed Asif Durani - Deputy High Commissioner of Pakistan’s response was quite balanced and calculated in the absence of his North London based boss H.E Wajid Shamsul Hassan who was in Pakistan. Instead of rushing back to London he chose to stay in Pakistan? H.E Wajid Hassan is one of 14 political appointees Ambassadors and High Commissioners of Pakistan including USA, United Nations. The response of the press office was appalling and disgraceful. Journalists did not receive any feedback about the activities of the High Commission; obviously journalists are not psychics to report the efforts of the High Commissioner? Press Minister’s position is lying vacant for the past few months on such an important station?’ The Guardian reported on 22nd April 2009, ‘Police and counter-terrorism officials were left embarrassed last night after nine Pakistani students suspected of involvement in what Gordon Brown claimed was a "very big plot" against the UK were released without charge. The nine were due to be deported after being handed over to the UK Border Agency. Two remaining suspects are still being questioned by Greater Manchester police.  The 12th suspect, an 18-year-old, was released without charge and handed to the Border Agency for deportation on 11 April. The Guardian understands the decision to arrest the suspects on 8 April came after a three-way row between MI5, senior officers in the Metropolitan police and the Greater Manchester police. MI5 were strongly of the opinion that the arrests should wait while more intelligence was gathered. But in an example of the tensions between Whitehall counter-terrorism officials and their counterparts in the police, the decision was made to take "executive action" even though the intelligence suggested there was little evidence to charge the suspects.” What was the hurry they suspects were under surveillance like sitting ducks and could be picked up anytime?   A security analyst said, ‘The real danger UK might face in future is from those who are going to Israel receiving active military training from IDF every summer, coming back in jeans and British Government do not have a clue about their numbers and names’? According to United Kingdom’s Strategy for Countering International Terrorism  published March 2009, ‘between 2001 and 31st March 2008, over 1,450 terrorism related arrests took place, of which 1/3rd led to a charge with three-quarters of these resulted in a conviction. Around 1 in 10 these arrests resulted in alternative action being taken, for example through immigration powers. The arrest to charge ratio is similar to that for other criminal offences. Between 2001/02 and 2007/08, almost 200 people were convicted terrorist related offences”. According to BBC report published on 12th September 2006 terror arrests, ‘Between September 2001 and 30 June 2006, a total of 1,047 people were arrested for offences under the Terrorism Act, according to the Metropolitan Police. Of, these 158 have been charged with offences under the Act and about 60 are awaiting trial. At least 23 people have been convicted of terrorism offences. Another 174 were charged with other offences and another 69 are being dealt with by the Immigration Service. Britain faced terrorist threats mostly originating from the Northern Ireland from Christian Catholics long before the so called ‘war on terror’. It was never called Catholic or Protestant terrorism after the religious background of the perpetrators? The ‘Real IRA’ claimed attack in March 2009 on a military base in Northern Ireland which resulted in deaths of two British soldiers heading Afghanistan broke the 10 years old peace. The 1998 Good Friday accord ended 30 years of conflict in Northern Ireland. According to British Home Office between 1969 and 1998, more than 3500 people and 500 British soldiers killed in the UK as a result of (N-Ireland) terrorism. There are reports of many failed bomb attacks the latest one was in February 2009, when the security forces found a 300lb (136kg) car bomb in Castlewellan, County Down in Northern Ireland. Some reports suggested that material might have come from the neighboring Irish republic? Critics say Britain never bombed, invaded or sent drones to the Irish Republic where some of the terrorism might have been originated?   ( Dr Shahid Qureshi is senior award wining investigative journalist and writer on security, foreign policy, and terrorism based in London )

 

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PAKISTANI MEDIA MAFIA’S ABUSES

By Dr Shahid Qureshi

Mafia groups have invested in media and hired shining journalist/media persons. By doing that they are using their network to influence the authorities and also rubbing shoulders with the so called elite of Pakistan. By doing that some of them are getting away with their basic responsibilities as employers. The government need publicity so mostly it side with the owners of the press and media groups.

Pakistani media evolved in the past few years as a result of realization that no war and no peace could be won without it?  A society where level of respect is measured with nuisance value journalists are at the centre. In past rich and famous use to keep close links/friendships with poor middle or working class journalists both to avoid bad publicity and get good one.  Some university/college lecturers choose to keep on foot in journalism and one in education.

The verbal abuse by Nazir Naji of a junior reporter Mohammad Ahem Noorani of The News Islamabad is just a tip of the iceberg of the plight of media in Pakistan. A senior drunk with arrogance and power scolded a new comer for just asking legitimate questions. These old gurus blew trumpets of who ever in power are now enjoying the perks and those young like Ansar Abbasi, Ahmed Noorani, and Kashif Abbasi and others who say what they mean and not the otherwise are being criticised for their principle stands?

The access/powers a journalist has with empty pockets in Pakistan is open to abuse? This access attracts people to become journalists even work free with the view that these losses would be recovered in future. I am not sure medic cum anchor Dr Shahid Masood has recovered his losses of his voluntary/free work at ARY TV in London? The gold dealers are close to President Zardari and believe in live and let live at all cost…

According to senior journalist those who arrived with a ‘trunk’ (suitcase made with iron) in Lahore, Karachi and Islamabad are millionaires and own big media groups. These poverty stricken gurus never did anything for the new comers and become abusers themselves?

In December 2008 a young Pakistani TV journalist committed suicide due to the non payment of his salary for months and rude behaviour of Imtinan Shahid of Channel5 of Khabrain Group.  The suicide of Mohammed Azam a Pakistani TV Channel-5 journalist shows the amount of pressures and constant war of survival in the journalistic community in Pakistan. They are mostly being abused by their own former colleagues who become of owners of media groups after working for others. Obviously they know the ticks of the trade?

Media in Pakistan has become like family business where sons, daughters and daughter in laws can have fast track promotions as editors or chief editors, CEOs and a place in higher media bodies. That is how abuse of media and journalism starts? Those who have spent years studying media in the universities are being criticised or assessed   by these people who don’t have a clue about the profession?  It’s like direct appointment without training as General, which normally takes 30 yeas and few dozen exams and interviews. 

A senior journalist received a phone call from Zia Shahid asking to work for his English newspaper ‘The Post’ in London. His son late Ednan Shahid send him a contract with a condition that, ‘Pakistani labour laws would be applicable while he would be working and living in London. He wanted him to function under Pakistani laws and not British in London. The worst of all is they did not pay the agreed amount at all.

Wajahat Ali Khan current acting President of Pakistan journalists Association United Kingdom left GEO Television due to non payments of salary for many months. His section in charge Iftikhar Qaisar was reassuring him that one day you will be paid. I am not sure if he himself is getting paid as probably he himself is not regular employee of the company? In this age of emails and fax his case for payments is under consideration for months and his dues have not been cleared yet. These so called media giants are the worst perpetrators of the rights of the media and journalists. Pakistani journalists based abroad must be provided full support like many other countries. No doubt what these journalists are doing money can’t buy but it is an essential for the survival in the most expansive cities in the world so they could focus on media activities? 

Huma Ali a senior journalist based in Islamabad told me that ‘some media groups are hiring/sub contracting journalists through third companies for years to avoid labour laws and are depriving  them from their legal rights’.

We have to find a solution of the problem and support each other. Media in Pakistan has been hijacked by organised mafia gangs who are using it for their protection? It is difficult to differentiate between true journalists, pen pushers and fakes since they have joined the ranks. Now any one can become a journalist by self certifying but it does not work in practice?

Those groups avoiding labour laws by issuing short term contract letters for years should be told to stop that practice and legislation should be introduced to protect rights of journalists. There should be a clear and transparent policy of internship for the training and education of young journalists to avoid future suicides and exploitations.  

Government of Pakistan should ask for the complete list of full time and temporary employees, their duration of service, of all print and electronic media groups. Ministry of Information can easily do that and should accredit only if a legal contract from the employers represented and company hired is the same.

When I asked President Musharraf in London to do something for the rights of the journalists. He said, ‘they should come on the road’. He said, ‘journalists in Pakistan are getting Rs50,000. per month’.  The real question is how many are getting Rs.50,000 a month?  Though some are getting paid in US$ but others are not getting paid at all.

 

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www.thelondonpost.net  FAKE TALIBAN AND COMPROMISED LEADERSHIP By Dr Shahid Qureshi Tuesday 05 May 2009 The London Post
Islam doesn’t need defending with an army or militia surely not by the students or ‘Taliban’? It is questionable that why and how religious elite failed to pass this message across the people? Islam as religion and Muslims co-existed flourished on the basis of high quality education, science and technology with other religions and civilisations for centuries. The ‘pay as you go’ fake Taliban drama with some criminal elements should wrap up now because people are not buying it? These heavily foreign funded and infiltrated are a bait to achieve something else ‘denuclearise Pakistan’ as many believes? May be it is time to take this mess to the doorsteps of the sponsors in the neighbourhood who says ‘your rubbish is my bread and butter’ as written on the rubbish collecting truck.
Critics say this so-called war on terror is the biggest fraud of the century which started from hunting of 9/11 terrorists of a dodgy group called Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan, then FATA in Pakistan. Osama and Al-Qaeda are like ‘foot and mouth’ disease which can be exported, planted, imported to any desired location from Afghanistan, Swat, FATA to Somalia, Darfur in Sudan or Yemen interestingly Chinese interest are linked to most of these places?	US invasion of Afghanistan the drug production in Afghanistan shot up from almost zero to 1400% according to London based Drug scope research. “Afghanistan’s drug market approximately worth $35 billion a year of which $380 million is going to Taliban/insurgents....
President Obama seems to be ‘short changed’ himself on the policy of war in Afghanistan? He seemingly has no choice but to carry on following the script of Bush Administration? The continuation of Robert Gates has Defence Secretary and rest of the team behind the scene is almost same which clearly shows the weakness of President Obama? Since the US invasion of Afghanistan the drug production in Afghanistan shot up from almost zero to 1400% according to London based Drug scope research. “Afghanistan’s drug market approximately worth $35 billion a year of which $380 million is going to Taliban/insurgents in Afghanistan’ according to a senior diplomat. There are 1000 check posts and approximately 120,000 troops on Pakistani side of the Afghan border as compare to 100 Afghan check posts. The US sponsored Afghan government do not want Pakistan to electronically fence approximately 2500 kilometres long treacherous border on some places? The US policy in Afghanistan completely failed as many people say. The war crimes and violations of human rights, international law and atrocities committed by the Bush Administration is a dot on the human history. As critic say there was no other 9/11 on the US soil, ‘that is true’ but did some one ask why the first 9/11 happened and who benefited from it? US is an occupied and hostage country from within and need to free itself from the selfish and criminal minded group of people? Its politicians are mostly hostage to certain lobbies? When it will declare ‘unilateral declaration of independence’ or UDI is a matter of time? Sooner the better? On the other hand Pakistani leadership is either too compromised or too corrupt or both to address the problem independently. It seems multi billion dollar assets of Asif Zardari, Nawaz Sharif and others are hurdles in the creation of an independent national policy?  On 3rd May 2009 President Asif Zardari stopped in London while heading to the USA. He had many hours long meeting with the London based leader of the MQM Mr Altaf Hussain whom his wife late Benazir Bhutto called ‘fascist killer’. Shabaz Sharif Chief Minister of Punjab province came to London on a private visit for ‘check up’ at the end of April 2009. He met with the British Foreign Secretary David Miliband at the Foreign and Commonwealth Office. Pakistan High Commission’s Press attaché denied any knowledge of such meeting and involvement of any official of the High Commission. According to a senior analyst said, 'people of Pakistan see their leaders not connecting with them but with US and UK therefore, they are convinced that these leaders are corrupt, compromised and this war is not their war and governments are lying to them since 2001. What could be the reason that from Musharaf to Zardari none had the spine to stand up for the country? The only reason could be that, have they been caught up in something and being blackmailed?  In his book Sexpionage, author David Lewis tell of an interview he had with a Russian sex spy (swallow) Vera, who told him that, ‘how the KGB recruited intelligent and attractive girls from schools and colleges…. We were told we should remember that we were soldiers fighting in the front line of a bitter ideological battle…. According to the book ‘The world’s Greatest Spies and Spymasters’, by Roger Boar and Nigel Blundell, (page 130), Yuri Krotkov a film script writer used by the KGB to setup seductions, often using actresses as bait. Maurice Dejean France’s ambassador to Russia arrived in Moscow with his pretty wife in 1955, and was quickly picked out by KGB sex trap master mind Lieutenant General Oleg Gribanov as likely target. His roving eyes made him vulnerable. Krotkov, who had previously compromised Mexicans, Indians, Pakistanis Americans, and Britons decided to win ambassador’s trust by charming his wife, Marie Claire…, Top politicians and diplomats were/are not the only victims of Soviet swallow sex traps’. “Indonesian President Ahmed Sukarano had a worldwide reputation as womaniser, so it was only natural that the KGB should try blackmail him with a sex trap when he visited Moscow. He was introduced to a stream of expertly trained beautiful swallows, and filmed making love to all of them in his hotel suite. But when the evidence was shown to him prior to a blackmail bid, Sukarno amazed the Soviet agents by asking copies of the films to take home for public showing, adding: My people will be really proud of me’. The recruitment attempt went no further.” Now the lesson for the Pakistani politicians, bureaucrats, generals and others is if you have done some thing wrong don’t get blackmailed? Admit your mistakes take stolen money back to Pakistan and people might forgive?

 
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www.thelondonpost.net Zardari’s India Friendly Toxic Assets By Dr Shahid Qureshi  12th May 2009
The screening of Obama’s blockbuster “Do more killings earn more $”, at President Asif Zardari’s virtual ‘Bambeeno Cinema’ and dinner at Hamid Karzai’s  Kebab Shop with Indian beef Kebab’s served with Russian Vodka and American wine seems a perfect night out? But who will clear the mess after the party? The good thing is that President Obama for once understands the problems in Afghanistan and Pakistan but worse thing is that he cannot fix it or can he? What could be the reason of Zardari’ s happiness and constant grinning apart from shortage of none functioning and shrinking (demented) brain? Though Musharaf’s notorious NRO legislation bleached Zardari’s sins but he is got another tool (defence) up his sleeves ‘pleading insanity’ on the basis of his mental health. The Supreme Court of Pakistan and parliament should implement the constitution under which the mental capacity of the President and Commander in Chief must be fully functioning beyond reasonable doubt? .
Zardari’s presidency stinks with the ingredients like Rehman Malik who got Benazir Bhutto killed as her security chief, Hussain Haroon and Haqqani who let UN pass resolution against Pakistan , his wife Farah Isphani Presidential spokesperson and list goes on. His active team members are corrupt, compromised, and mostly foreign nationals including Altaf Hussain? Who would in the right state of mind would say and do things what Zardari and his team members are doing? According to US media reports on 10the May 2009,	They have destroyed Iraq most educated country in the Middle East, Afghanistan converted into rubble, a state run by the drug barons, where drug production was almost zero before US invasion, now increased to 1400% worth $35 billion a year also funding the Taliban with approximately $380 million yearly. ...
President Zardari reportedly said in Washington, ‘he never considered India as a threat and would move troops from Indian border to Afghan if necessary’, his ISI chief Lt. General Ahmed Shuja Pasha said, ‘Terror is our enemy not India’, his interior minister Rehman Malik without full investigation said, ‘Pakistani soil was used for Mumbai Bombings’ and his Prime Minister agreed to send ISI chief to India for questioning’. The toxic seeds sown by Musharraf are growing and need detoxification? If India is not threat then who is sponsoring terrorism in Baluchistan, funding Taliban in Swat and Waziristan and responsible for the separation of East Pakistan? AZ agreed to give transit route to India into Afghanistan? Surely it will not make any difference to the economy of India but definitely create a security nightmare for Pakistan . Are these people gone out of their minds or Pakistan run out off sanity? The above are the internal threats to the sovereignty of Pakistan? How many times President Zardari and his Prime Minister Yusuf Gillani visited the 120, 000 Pakistani troops for moral boost, deployed on Pakistan- Afghanistan border fighting US‘s war on terror’ with Indo-US sponsored Taliban not to mention on LOC?  Leaders like George Bush, Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, and President Obama have visited their troops on the front line. People hope that Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Kiyani would be able to rise above this dodgy democratic mess of corrupt and compromised. Will real General Kiyani stand up for the country and his institution by detaching from the various traps laid including military take over? The state of affair is so grim that traitors and anti-state elements are not only protected but also promoted by this regime? It is time for naming and shaming of all the corrupt serving and retired politicians, generals, civilians and others starting with the publication of a list of all foreign nationality holders including partners, foreign bank accounts, properties, assets and businesses among approximately 1200 parliamentarians, ministers, politicians, businessmen, civil and military officials. A country of 180 million can not be left hostage to the elite of 5000 people involved in all kinds of irregularities and corruption? On the other hand United States has 180 million reasons to worry about Pakistan which are more dangerous than the nuclear arsenal and that is young and resilient population. A secret intelligence assessment prepared by the CIA in February 1984 – ‘Middle East – South Asia : Population Problems and Political Stability’- worried about age structures in societies with high fertility. Noting that as many as one-third of regional population is in the ‘political volatile 15 to 24 age group, ‘the document which was partially declassified in 1986, warned that young people are ‘ready recruits for opposition causes’, including Islamic nationalism, ‘which currently offers the principal ideological haven for Muslim youth’.  According to political experts the growth in population is a distinct advantage in the modern world. Geoffrey McNicoll of the population council explained in a November 1985 conference on global population trends at Stanford University – California that, ‘population weight conveys power or voice in world affairs’. Similarly late Ray S. Cline former Deputy Director of Intelligence at CIA said in a book, ‘The Power of the Nations in the 1990s’, ‘that a large territory accompanied by a large population, almost automatically confers the status of power on a nation.’ But political analysis, he added, ‘generally gives little more importance to people than to territory, since populous countries of an adequate size can exploit economic resources, mobilise armies, and bring their influence on others’. Pakistan has around 2.5 million Afghan refugees living for the past 30 years, created by the US war against the Soviets in 1979. Around 1.6 million Pakistanis are displaced or become homeless due to the so called USA ’s war on terror within FATA and Swat. It is quite evident that US actions has caused Pakistan losses of around $35 - $40 billion in past 8 years and increasing. This displacement of the population is not meaningless but would have far reaching affects. No one knows which Taliban to deal with CIA’s Taliban, RAW’s Taliban, MOSSAD’s Taliban, Russian FSB’s Taliban or ISI’s Taliban? Surely responsibility lies on national security agencies to clear the mess both inside and outside? It is becoming more and more evident that the selfish mafia controlling US and its allies are seeking to destabilize the Middle East, Pakistan , and South Asia . They have destroyed Iraq most educated country in the Middle East, Afghanistan converted into rubble, a state run by the drug barons, where drug production was almost zero before US invasion, now increased to 1400% worth $35 billion a year also funding the Taliban with approximately $380 million yearly. “Mumbai attacks were part of global strategy to balkanize the countries in the ‘Arc of Crisis’; with US military presence in both regions, to encircle China and threaten peace of the world that gets the world tired of war to accept global hegemony of the US and call it a ‘New World Order for Peace’ said a defence analyst. If one still doesn’t understand then, it is China , Nukes, and Baluchistan stupid!!!!   (Dr Shahid Qureshi is senior award wining investigative journalist and writer on security, foreign policy, and terrorism based in London)

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India Acquiring Israeli Airborne Early Warning System
By Nissan Ratzlav-Katz
IsraelNN.com) India is to take delivery of the first of three Israeli airborne early warning command and control (AWAC) systems on Sunday. 
With the integration of the Israel Aircraft Industries (IAI) Phalcon system, the Indian air force will become the first in South Asia with advanced AWAC aircraft.
Considered the most advanced AWAC system, the Phalcon provides tactical surveillance of airborne and surface targets, and the gathering of signal intelligence. 
It is capable of tracking fighter planes, missiles and ground forces from up to 400 kilometers away, in any weather conditions. 
The system can identify all types of aircraft and was programmed to differentiate between friend and foe.
The delivery of the long-range, high-performance and multi-sensor Phalcon system is part of a 1.1 billion dollar deal signed between India, Russia and Israel in January 2004. 
As part of the delivery, IAI mounted the Phalcon systems on IL-76 aircraft supplied by Russia. Delivery of the last two Phalcon systems to India is slated for 2010.
Ahead of the negotiations for the sale of the Phalcons to India, Israel obtained a green light from the United States for the transfer of incorporated American technology. 
Israeli caution was borne of bitter experience, after a previous deal with China for the purchase of the Phalcon systems was nixed by the U.S. As a result, Israel-China 
relations suffered a harsh blow and Israel was forced to compensate China to the tune of 375 million dollars.
Over the past several years, Israel has sold more than 1 billion dollars worth of defense systems to India on an annual basis. This has made India Israel’s leading customer in the global military supply market. 
Sales have included hardware and software, missiles for the Indian navy, as well as anti-aircraft and anti-missile systems based on the Green Pine radar.
“Green Pine”, designed by Israel Aerospace Industries, is a transportable radar system designed to track dozens of ballistic missiles from long-ranges, and in all weather conditions.
In addition to the Phalcon sale, Israel’s military industry firm has announced it will establish five factories in India for the production of artillery shells. The project is said to be worth 240 million dollars. 
In other fields related to defense, Israel and India have collaborated in military and aerospace research and development. 
In January 2008, for example, the Israel Space Agency and India’s Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) successfully launched an Israeli-made spy satellite from the Satish Dhawan Space Centre at 
Sriharikota in southeastern India.

 

 

Pakistan's Treacherous Regime & US Game Plan By Dr Shahid Qureshi Monday 18 May 2009 The London Post It was treacheries which killed and bring down Tipu Sultan's rule and not the weakness of his modern rockets and military. Pakistan is facing similar kind of challenge. The whole bunch in the ruling elite including Zardari, Haqanni, Isphani, not only share their religious faith with Mir Sadiq but also client to the same people?  Can anyone imagine that whole regime is staying out of the country for useless tours when they are needed on the ground? One hopes men behind the nukes and guns steadfast otherwise Zardari has put the country for loot sale but that does not mean that they get into the trap of military rule? The faith healers and holy men of the current regime must inform Zardari and his clan that their game is up; any move like Mir Sadiq would serve no one. The favourite sport of the current regime is repeating word 'democracy' 1750 times and then watching program 'sex and the city'.  At NASA's Flight Facility at Wallop Island Virginia a painting prominently displayed in the reception lobby depicting 'Tipu Sultan's army fighting with the British'. Tipu Sultan a Muslim ruler of India glorified by NASA as a hero of warfare rocketry', though the fact had been forgotten in Tipu's own country and people'. Tipu Sultan reigned 1782-1799 and died in May 1799, fighting the combined forces of British, the Muslim Nizam of Hyderabad, and the Marattas When Tipu was killed by treachery of Mir Sadiq, the British captured more than 700 rockets and subsystems of 900 rockets in the battle of Turukhanahally in 1799. His army had 27 brigades called Kushoons, and each brigade had a company of rocket men, called Jourks. These rockets had been taken to England by William Congreve and were subjected by the British to what we call "reverse engineering" today. Of course, the young scientist commented to himself that the British could do it because there was no GATT, IPR Act, or patent regime at that time. Pakistan is an idea and ideas can not be destroyed or burnt and is there to exist forever. Pakistan is a symbol of hope, success, and fight against oppression, terrorism, and colonialism. The so called war against terrorism is actually war of ideologies.  When libraries and books were being burnt after the fall of Muslim Spain a wise man said, "Ideas cannot be burnt or destroyed". "There were many times when whole Pakistani Air Force was at the highest alerts and every jet could fly was in air. We use to stay as close to the planes as possible. One night 'a friend of Pakistan called from abroad in the early hours of the morning and woke a very high PAF official and told him one line, 'they (Israelis) are coming'. The whole PAF was in the air within minutes and those who came found us ready and went back to try again", said a senior Pakistan Air Force official.   This incident was long before the one night of May 1998 atomic tests when Israeli jets were seen parked at Madras air force base of the Indian Air Force. Photographs of the parked Israeli jets were reportedly shown to the Indian high ups in Islamabad with a warning don't cross the line otherwise we know where to go, or words to that effect. Many politicians of the US are openly saying that they cannot succeed in their political career including President Obama, unless they 'sign' loyalty to the interests of Israel' and not to the US constitution? To achieve its objectives they would do anything and it's the only country which can use US resources without even them knowing? The Indo-Israel alliance is dangerous for the region including Iran. How can India be friend of Israel and Iran at the same time? Now Indians and Israelis have lured the Americans into a trap of 'Russian dolls', to do their dirty jobs in Afghanistan and Pakistan. According to a US based scholar and scientist, "First Bomb them, then Rob them," is the lesson Mr. Goldman was taught by Mullen and Hayden  on behalf of General "Betray-us," who taught him the Strategic use of Surge through "Yankee Crusaders," how he minimized the VIOLENCE in IRAQ. By steady bombing and killing the Yankees drove the IRAQI's to become Refugees in Syria, and Jordan, and the few others in Pacific Islands of Guam (a virtual Prison in Pacific Ocean infested with man-eating Sharks).  Thus clearing the desert from any trouble makers for the "OIL COMPANIES," pumping out oil for their drivers in Trucks and SUV's for the next 100 years without encountering any tigers. The same is the plan for FATA to clear the path away for building the Turkmenistan- Afghanistan- Pakistan (TAP) Pipeline for which the Talibans were threatened in UN Sponsored meeting in Berlin (July 17, 2001): "Either you accept our offer of a carpet of gold, or we bury you under a carpet of bombs," eye-witnessed by Niaz Naik, former foreign minister of Pakistan. The rest is History. Just look at the History of these occupiers of IRAQ and Afghanistan, how they decimated the native Indians, and later used Africans as slaves. This is not the end, because they placed the Japanese Americans in Concentration Camps during WW-II and confiscated all their assets, to teach JAPAN about Democracy. . ."   So called friendship with the USA and its presence is part of the problem in Pakistan, Afghanistan and beyond then solution. Those who have stolen trillions of dollars from the people in the US got off the hook scot free? These are the people who are forcing, inflating and luring US leadership both military and civilian into petty wars with few thousands criminals with tanks, drones and jets? Surely it is to create distraction from the 'Biggest Robbery' in the history of mankind under the noses of CIA, MI6 and others? These bankers have stolen more money then the all the illegitimate claims of British members of Parliament currently under scrutiny in past 100 years? The so called hired guns 'Talibans' are petty criminals in rags then these five star thieves?   ( Dr Shahid Qureshi is writer on security, foreign policy, and terrorism based in London )

 

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World's Largest Democracy Generates Deep Passion Around the Globe
by Syed Waris Shere




The Guardian, a reputable newspaper of the United Kingdom has rightly pointed out in its
editorial that India is more than a country. It is also an idea, expressed by Gandhi, Nehru and
Ambedkar (the untouchable who wrote so much of India's constitution).

India's election result is a good news for supporters of democracy and free markets. Some 400
million voters, or about 60 percent of the electorate, participated, making the election the
biggest ever staged in the world. As India grows in regional importance, the challenge will be
to express that idea clearly and attractively to others. A strong Indian government can play in
regional security should not be underestimated.

Today, India is the dominant power in South Asia. Undoubtedly having a stable government in
India is a boon for the rest of the world, since the world's second largest nation after China
is being looked at as a possible driver of global economic growth. The election also came at a
crucial time in South Asia – with Pakistan and Afghanistan facing massive insurgencies, Sri
Lanka in the brutal throes of the end of a long-running civil war, and Nepal recently seeing
its government collapse.

"We have given this country a strong, stable government at a time when the world is facing danger".
Today, we stand as one nation", said the Prime Minister.

In this year's elections, the Congress Party delivered its best performance in decades.
Congress Party has also secured a strong mandate by boosting the fortunes of Rahul Gandhi.
Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, 76, said he hoped to promote the heir to the Gandhi-Nehru
dynasty to the cabinet and analysts described this election as a significant moment in Rahul's
gradual but unwavering ascent to power.

Rahul Gandhi was born in New Delhi to Italian-born mother and present day Congress President
Sonia Gandhi, and former Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi, who was assassinated on 21 May 1991. He
belongs to the Nehru-Gandhi family, the most prominent political family in India. Rahul was 14
years old when his grandmother, Prime Minister Indira Gandhi, was assassinated. His great-
grandfather, Jawaharlal Nehru, was the first Prime Minister of India, and his great-great-
grandfather Motilal Nehru was a distinguished leader of the Indian independence movement. Not
since the country’s founding Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru has an incumbent Prime Minister
finished a full five-year term in office and been returned to power.

The result is likely to signal an end to the career of L. K. Advani, the BJP's 81-year-old
leader. The BJP turned off voters with its strident anti-Muslim rhetoric. It is extremely
important for the central government to promote Hindu-Muslim unity. The new government will
make security and promoting Hindu-Muslim tolerance a priority as it heads into a second term,
while continuing its focus on raising the economic prospects of the country's millions of its
inhabitants.

M. J. Akbar, a prominent political commentator, said he thought the vote for Congress was also
a vote for clean politics. Manmohan Singh, he said, has a strong reputation as an uncorrupt
politician, in a political arena tarnished by serious corruption scandals. People don't want
corrupt leadership. They want the leaders to look decent and behave decently," he added.

The market reacted positively to the result, which brought hopes that the Manmohan Singh
government would have a clear mandate, without having to keep fractious coalition partners on
board. The massive social welfare schemes Manmohan Singh launched in his first term were
instrumental in his return to power. Under the strong leadership of Manmohan Singh, a respected
economist, the government has steered India through an economic boom – growth has averaged 9%
over the past four years and foreign direct investment has climbed 60% since coming to power.
India's economy has held up better than most, with growth projected at around 6% in 2009.

The victory of India's Congress Party has quickly inflated some high expectations in the
country's financial markets - which have been soaring. The decisive victory had the rupee
soared, posting its biggest gain in approximately 24 years. The rupee rose 3.3 per cent against
the dollar to 47.78 rupees, its biggest advance since March 1986. Communist parties, which had
opposed privatisation and pension reform, lost more than half of their seats. Rajeev Malik, an
economist with Macquarie Securities, said: “We believe the election verdict could be game
changing for India, as it enhances the scope for significant medium- and longer-term reforms
that will boost the sustainable growth. This, combined with the ongoing improvements in the
Indian economy, will be highly positive for the economic outlook.”

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> IsraelNN.com) India is to take delivery of the first of three Israeli airborne early warning command and control (AWAC) systems on Sunday. With the integration of the Israel Aircraft Industries (IAI) Phalcon system, the Indian air force will become the first in South Asia with advanced AWAC aircraft.
> Considered the most advanced AWAC system, the Phalcon provides tactical surveillance of airborne and surface targets, and the gathering of signal intelligence. It is capable of tracking fighter planes, missiles and ground forces from up to 400 kilometers away, in any weather conditions. The system can identify all types of aircraft and was programmed to differentiate between friend and foe.
> The delivery of the long-range, high-performance and multi-sensor Phalcon system is part of a 1.1 billion dollar deal signed between India, Russia and Israel in January 2004. As part of the delivery, IAI mounted the Phalcon systems on IL-76 aircraft supplied by Russia. Delivery of the last two Phalcon systems to India is slated for 2010.
> Ahead of the negotiations for the sale of the Phalcons to India, Israel obtained a green light from the United States for the transfer of incorporated American technology. Israeli caution was borne of bitter experience, after a previous deal with China for the purchase of the Phalcon systems was nixed by the U.S. As a result, Israel-China relations suffered a harsh blow and Israel was forced to compensate China to the tune of 375 million dollars.

> Over the past several years, Israel has sold more than 1 billion dollars worth of defense systems to India on an annual basis. This has made India Israel?s leading customer in the global military supply market. Sales have included hardware and software, missiles for the Indian navy, as well as anti-aircraft and anti-missile systems based on the Green Pine radar.
> ?Green Pine?, designed by Israel Aerospace Industries, is a transportable radar system designed to track dozens of ballistic missiles from long-ranges, and in all weather conditions.
> In addition to the Phalcon sale, Israel?s military industry firm has announced it will establish five factories in India for the production of artillery shells. The project is said to be worth 240 million dollars. In other fields related to defense, Israel and India have collaborated in military and aerospace research and development. In January 2008, for example, the Israel Space Agency and India?s Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) successfully launched an Israeli-made spy satellite from the Satish Dhawan Space Centre at Sriharikota in southeastern India.

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> At NASA's Flight Facility at Wallop Island Virginia a painting prominently displayed in the reception lobby depicting 'Tipu Sultan's army fighting with the British'. Tipu Sultan a Muslim ruler of India glorified by NASA as a hero of warfare rocketry', though the fact had been forgotten in Tipu's own country and people'. Tipu Sultan reigned 1782-1799 and died in May 1799, fighting the combined forces of British, the Muslim Nizam of Hyderabad, and the Marattas
> When Tipu was killed by treachery of Mir Sadiq, the British captured more than 700 rockets and subsystems of 900 rockets in the battle of Turukhanahally in 1799. His army had 27 brigades called Kushoons, and each brigade had a company of rocket men, called Jourks. These rockets had been taken to England by William Congreve and were subjected by the British to what we call "reverse engineering" today. Of course, the young scientist commented to himself that the British could do it because there was no GATT, IPR Act, or patent regime at that time.
> Pakistan is an idea and ideas can not be destroyed or burnt and is there to exist forever. Pakistan is a symbol of hope, success, and fight against oppression, terrorism, and colonialism. The so called war against terrorism is actually war of ideologies. When libraries and books were being burnt after the fall of Muslim Spain a wise man said, "Ideas cannot be burnt or destroyed".
> "There were many times when whole Pakistani Air Force was at the highest alerts and every jet could fly was in air. We use to stay as close to the planes as possible. One night 'a friend of Pakistan called from abroad in the early hours of the morning and woke a very high PAF official and told him one line, 'they (Israelis) are coming'. The whole PAF was in the air within minutes and those who came found us ready and went back to try again", said a senior Pakistan Air Force official.
> This incident was long before the one night of May 1998 atomic tests when Israeli jets were seen parked at Madras air force base of the Indian Air Force. Photographs of the parked Israeli jets were reportedly shown to the Indian high ups in Islamabad with a warning don't cross the line otherwise we know where to go, or words to that effect.
> Many politicians of the US are openly saying that they cannot succeed in their political career including President Obama, unless they 'sign' loyalty to the interests of Israel' and not to the US constitution? To achieve its objectives they would do anything and it's the only country which can use US resources without even them knowing? The Indo-Israel alliance is dangerous for the region including Iran. How can India be friend of Israel and Iran at the same time? Now Indians and Israelis have lured the Americans into a trap of 'Russian dolls', to do their dirty jobs in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
> According to a US based scholar and scientist, "First Bomb them, then Rob them," is the lesson Mr. Goldman was taught by Mullen and Hayden on behalf of General "Betray-us," who taught him the Strategic use of Surge through "Yankee Crusaders," how he minimized the VIOLENCE in IRAQ. By steady bombing and killing the Yankees drove the IRAQI's to become Refugees in Syria, and Jordan, and the few others in Pacific Islands of Guam (a virtual Prison in Pacific Ocean infested with man-eating Sharks). Thus clearing the desert from any trouble makers for the "OIL COMPANIES," pumping out oil for their drivers in Trucks and SUV's for the next 100 years without encountering any tigers.
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Diplomatic Begging and British Pakistanis By Dr Shahid Qureshi Sunday 31 May 2009 The London Post
London is one of the very important stations in the world as far as diplomacy is concerned therefore majority of the countries send their best working brains to represent them with the exception of Pakistan. Which subcontracted the US and UK missions to the political cronies and foreign nationals and residents. British Pakistanis received a list of accessories needed for the people displaced by the operation in Swat from the Pakistan High Commission in London. Pakistanis living abroad are already very generous and support the country in crisis. But the attitude of some corrupt bureaucrats, diplomats and politicians disgust them when they steal even from that aid? Pakistani diplomats go begging after every disaster in flashy cars and expansive suits.
A senior diplomat reportedly spent more than £11000 on his dental cosmetic treatment. One post is subdivided into many to accommodate political appointees in London. Pakistan is unique where appointing of members of political parties or their wives in diplomatic missions is common. People say that some of them might even not get a job at local super store. Ignoring the national interests of the state to oblige cronies by politicians is clearly a policy of deliberately harming the country?	There are many other Pakistani diplomats who after completing their terms stay on. People call them true enemies of the state
Foreign Service use to be on top and best brains use to join the service. The accountability in the whole civil service needs reviewing. Once in the service no one can touch you because system of accountability is complicated and offender friendly. No one knows how many bureaucrats serving in the foreign missions were charged or cautioned for financial corruption. They are good at complicating simple matters until some one else come and make it more complicated with no out come. Around million or so Pakistanis mostly from Kashmir live in the United Kingdom and to cater their needs four consulates and a High Commission is established. In the past few years things have improved but not up to the expected standards according to many who had interactions with them. Surely there are good and hard working officers who providing good service. May be they realise that their very presence in this country is due to the overseas Pakistanis who send billions of dollars foreign exchange every year? Hamid Asghar (HOC) called the Police because a visitor on official business allegedly become disruptive and lost his cool due to the provocative behaviour of the official who was leaving his post and sorting out his parking fines. If true surely his behaviour was not acceptable but he got into the trap of Pakistani bureaucracy which is good at complicating things. Police released the gentleman after a caution. In love of his country he was voluntarily taking a group of medical professionals to earthquake affected areas in Kashmir. The abuse did not stop here. The victim alleged that some one from the High Commission some one called Faisal Khan came to his house harassed his wife, left a contact number, when he called Mr Faisal Khan reportedly threatened him with the consequences. Faisal Khan confirmed this writer that he works in the department of tourism at the London High Commission. When I asked Aisf Durrani Deputy High Commissioner he said, ‘there is no tourism department in the High Commission’. So who is Faisal Khan Mob: 07983448194 and who is he working for? Is he driver, a visa officer a bailiff, or a private eye? The victim is lodging an official complaint to the London police for harassment and illegal threats to a British Citizen.   Hamid Asghar Head of Chancery (HOC) a post probably equivalent to a ‘sanitary inspector’ or ‘darogha’, called the police for this disruption was himself drunk and disorderly in Islamabad not long ago when he and his accomplice a Member of Parliament assaulted and beaten a senior bureaucrat Kamran Lashari. He would have been charged with GBH in this country? When some one asked him why you beat the senior bureaucrat, he couldn’t justify his actions. This is what couple of drinks can do to someone. May be people should be careful with him since the ‘legalisation of alcohol’ in Pakistan High Commission in London. “Hamid Asghar’s circle of people is very powerful and easy going, no one can touch him and question his competence, integrity and commonsense”, Said a source Reportedly two welfare attachés posted in Manchester, Safadr Malik and Sher Akbar Awan both applied political asylum in the United Kingdom. Probably it was round that time when more than 600 blank Pakistani passports were stolen and allegedly sold in the open market for thousands. No one can take a diplomatic bag from the airport with out security passes and information. Was it an inside job, as many believes? There are many other Pakistani diplomats who after completing their terms stay on, some apply political asylum and start businesses in London and don’t go back at all? No one knows what they pass on to get the asylum? People call them true enemies of the state.   ( Dr Shahid Qureshi is senior award wining investigative journalist and writer on security, foreign policy, and terrorism based in London )

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www.thelondonpost.net Who is Fighting Pakistan’s Media War? By Dr Shahid Qureshi Frday 05 June 2009 The London Post
Once armed forces to go war politicians and intellectuals normally shut up and support their soldiers, keep their views for later because(a) it demoralise the soldiers,(b) negative impact on the moral (c) create doubts about the legitimacy of the mission. Pakistani politicians especially religious and other parties should show maturity, stop giving immature statements and should visit the soldiers on the frontline. President Zardari should also visit soldiers on the frontline when he is visiting Pakistan? Anti Pakistan armed forces statements by so called religious democrats feeds into the enemy propaganda and media war against the country? A defence analyst said, ‘ no one still ask why more then 100,000+ allied troops surrendered to Japan in WWII and kept POWs for years?  Similarly Pakistani politicians should show maturity during the operation, stop quoting 1971 without full analysis, understanding.
One of the root causes of the biased and negative press coverage in the international media in current climate is the laid back and 19th century approach adopted by the pen pusher officials posted in the various Pakistani foreign missions especially in Europe and USA. Obviously they are part of the most inefficient and corrupt bureaucracy in the world? People hardly see names of the press and other officials in the guest lists of the various important functions in important capitals specially London. Some officials came out with a new trick which is registering for the event but not attending at all or partly attending?	Pakistan and politicians should show maturity during the operation and President Zardari should visit soldiers on the frontline when he is visiting
It would be interesting to know how many press and media complaints were made to ‘Ofcom’, BBC, Press Complaint Commission and letter to editors in past year by the most expansive Press Office at Pakistan High Commission in London. In the past 6 years and currently the High Commissioner’s office is occupied by former journalists but nothing has changed? One hopes that the current pair of former seasoned journalists HE Wajid Shamsulhasan High Commissioner and his Deputy Asif Durani make some difference to the rotten system? While looking at the coverage of President Zardari’s various visits to London, it seems that President Zardari hardly use the costly press office as he is already tuned in with British media? President Zardari hardly interact with Pakistani media abroad but did give an interview during his last trip to his late wife’s friend British journalist Christina Lamb, who was kicked out of Pakistan for reportedly buying an air ticket from Quetta to Karachi on the name of ‘Osma bin Laden probably to prove incompetence of Pakistan? Ms Sultana Rizvi Press Counsellor was seemingly left unsupported by the great politicians while ethnic media was left high and dry for more than four hours?  Few years ago probably Maleeha Lodhi said, “Information Ministry in Pakistan should be shut down.” She was angry when senior journalists travelling with Pakistani President were booked in a Hotel as (PIA) Pakistan International Airline’s staff close to Heathrow Airport while President was staying in central London miles away. People ask what is the purpose of keeping this white elephant which is full of incompetence? No offence but poor Pakistanis are paying very heavy price to keep these officials here in London? Press Officers posted abroad are considered as vanguards of the national interests of the state. They are front door/link to the out side world media and journalists. So if we spend tens of thousands of pounds on the decoration and presentation of our own front rooms and doors. Then people are not sure if current setup at the High Commission is able to cope with the media pressures in London. It seems that the office is scared to lodge proper official protests/complaints to the British Media for biased stories for example BBC Newsnight after the arrests of Pakistani students, and the terrorist attacks on the Sri Lankan team in Lahore? It would be interesting to know how many complaints to the electronic media Ombudsman, Ofcom, BBC, and Press Complaint commission were made by the Press Office costing millions to poor Pakistanis. There is no doubt that Pakistan get biased press from international media organisation for various reasons. The important question is what strategy adopted to counter this? Leaving the post of Press/media ministers vacant or replacing with a junior means (a) one don’t care abut the national interests of the state (b) no understanding of the threats to the country (c) one want to see failure? One can ask would you let a junior surgeon perform your heart surgery. Surely not. Then if one does not allow an inexperienced surgeon to perform his/her heart surgery, how come it is ok to place corrupt and incompetent officials to represent the country at a station like London?  Some one said, ‘it is hard to teach these arrogant officials new media techniques as old habits cannot be changed and ‘it is hard to teach new tricks to the old dogs’?  At a time when millions are displaced in Pakistan, dozens are killed in military operation Qamar Zaman Kaira current Minister of Information and Kashmir Affairs was kicked out of an exclusive dancing club ‘Ghungro’ on 42nd Street in New York also branded as ‘Taliban’. The club is reportedly famous for having semi nude Indian dancers and might have cost $16000 according to press reports. The Indians were quick to break the story and surely have videos of minister’s mild to moderate activities.   When I asked Sherry Rehman former Minister Information in her office last year, ‘why your leaders and members of your government queue up to receive junior US officials like John Negro Ponte and Richard Boucher ignoring the green book protocols’? She said, ’you ask difficult questions’. Then she started giving her mobile number to members of British media delegation? She was the one who sent SMS messages to the foreign journalists regarding the nationality of Ajmal Kasab a suspect of Mumbai bombings bypassing the Foreign Office and Prime Minister House. Why?   Media war in the current scenario is part of the ‘psychological warfare’ against Pakistan, how much that angle is considered by the heavily infiltrated, corrupt and compromised establishment is anybody’s guess? If sacrifices of the Pakistani people armed forces, and security forces are not being fully acknowledged by the world media and international community then it is time to go back to the drawing board and make a viable, solution focused, robust ‘media strategy’ to counter media war against Pakistan? (Dr Shahid Qureshi is award wining journalist and writer on foreign policy & security based in London) www.thelondonpost.net

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www.thelondonpost.net   Who are USA’s High Value Pakistani Assets? By Dr Shahid Qureshi Saturday 20 June 2009 The London Post
US officials and politicians are most of the times so much convinced with their own policies that they seems like megalomaniacs, hypnotised and robotic. This inflexible attitude has caused deaths and destruction to millions in Iraq, Afghanistan and now in Pakistan. Probably for that very reason US invest in recruiting agents then making true friends from the masses. Nicholas Burns, US Assistant Secretary of State was in the same trance when I asked him at (IISS) International Institute of Strategic Studies in London in 2008, something like, ‘what moral lessons you have for the people resisting occupations (under International Law) of two occupied countries’? He asked me which two countries and I replied ‘Iraq and Afghanistan’ sir. Ambassador Burns gave a response backed with UN resolutions which some people call ‘dodgy justifications’. He and others defended the US official policy almost religiously”.
On the other hands Pakistani policy makers mostly believe in ‘pay as you go’ or ‘I will always scratch your back even if you are not itching especially if you are from USA’. It is due to the deep roots of US obliged corrupt elite. Pakistan always had a significant role in the strategic designs of the USA in the region. Pakistan’s political, civil, military establishment and influential organised minority groups like Shias, Ismailis, Parsis, and Qadiyanis have always been entwined with foreign agenda for various reasons perhaps their own	In 43 years 710 Pakistanis visited USA was from 1964-2008, but numbers shot up in 2007-2008 when 207, Pakistanis have visited US under Fulbright scholarship?
vulnerabilities? According to a US based senior analyst, ‘Zardari regime is a classic example of smooth ‘shia Muslim minority’, rule without even 95% of the people knowing what actually is going on? Get press, media, finance and law in your control and whole state is in your hand. That suits the foreign players including India.” The corrupt regime of Asif Zardari is full of criminals and out laws that is why Pakistan does not have a law minister for the past three months. Why? Farooq Naik was his family lawyer who was first promoted as law minister then chairman of upper house (Senate). Few weeks ago I told him in the House of Lords in London to introduce another NRO so people like his boss can bring their black money back into the country.  He said, ‘OK’. Countries where leaders have vision, promote rule of law, invest in education, especially in research and development from bird watching to space travel. Research is an expansive business but some times money can’t buy everything? The best source developed countries can get from developing countries is human resource. Britain is one of the richest countries in research, human resource development, and retaining human resources for generations. That is why a country size of Pakistan is being run by the officials’ rank of a director general or joint secretary? No wonder London is known as junk yard of Pakistani politicians and officials.   Public opinion is not in favour of the US policies as religiously followed and adopted by the corrupt elite. US has always had a place in the hearts and minds of the people of Pakistan until after tragic events of 9/11 in which approximately 3000 people died and subsequent killings of millions of people with destruction and displacement in Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan.   Ironically Pakistani governments and the establishment have always facilitated the US policies? US enjoy this advantage because it has an elaborate plan to ensure its grip on the governing infrastructure of Pakistan. Amongst a number of ostensibly innocent ways to ensure this control two are quite prominent. One is the 'International Visitor Programme and the other is Fulbright Scholarship. Under visit programme, US attracts important / influential members of Pakistani society i.e. politicians, civil/military bureaucrats, journalist, intellectuals etc by offering a visit to US under privileged arrangements. During these visits, required people are spotted and later on engaged to work for both short and long term US interests in Pakistan. It does not end here, later on; these people are also assisted and supported to progress in their fields to reach targeted positions of high value from where they can provide required service to their masters. Every year short listing of the potential individuals is done by the existing sources in respected fields that are duly supervised by US embassy. A complete profile of the short listed individuals is made with special emphasis on strong / weak areas. These areas of the individuals are exploited during their visits / tours to US and they are motivated or forced to work for US interests. Lucrative postings of the armed forces for UN peace missions can be a good networking start for future assets. According to reports, ‘since FATA has become an important area for US, in 2008, five Pakistanis from FATA were selected to go to US where they stayed for almost a month. Baluchistan carries a similar position for US so no wonder US regularly sends short listed Baluch nationalists on these visits. US efforts on Pakistani politicians of the mainstream parties never stop. Currently, more than a dozen sitting MNAs (Members of National Assembly) of leading political parties are on a trip to US. It is interesting to note that most of these MNAs are members of Parliament's Standing Committee for Defence, which indicates that US wants to develop source to keep a closer eye on Pakistan's defence infrastructure including the nuclear asset. According to a senior analyst, “Under Fulbright scholarship, selected students are sent to US under arrangements of The United States Educational Foundation in Pakistan. This programme is funded by U.S. Department of State and offers up to four years of graduate study in the US towards a Ph.D. degree. US provide tuition, books, airfare and a trip back home after two years, a living stipend, and health insurance. In 43 years from 1964 to 2007, total numbers of Pakistanis visited USA was 710 but the numbers shot up in 2007-2008 when 207, Pakistanis have visited US under Fulbright scholarship? These sponsored visits to US cover almost all important fields of Pakistani society which include Armed Forces / civil bureaucracy (both senior and junior levels) religious scholars, politicians, businessmen, media personnel and students”.   The beneficiaries of this US patronage, work for their master on long term bases and reach place of strategic value. All the way through, heavy financial rewards and full protection is guaranteed to these individuals in case they are in trouble. One can simply recall a number of journalists, politicians and bureaucrats, who were caught for their wrongdoings but went scot free to the utter surprise of every one. It was known later that US government exerted pressure for such releases. A defence analyst said, “It is quire ironic to note that despite clear service rules and regulations, government departments directly coordinate and process various scholarships and visit programmes. Most of the times no questions are asked before issuing NOCs (no objection certificates) and no debriefings are done on return. It is quite understandable as to why the government does not bother about its officials' visit to US and growing US influence within important government departments as well as society. But if we want to maintain our religious, cultural, social and political integrity, it is very important that Pakistan government should exercise maximum control over the growing US control of the countries”. It would be wise if USA and others connect with the people of Pakistan then recruiting, investing and protecting small ‘chiefs or thieves’.

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www.thelondonpost.net Do Not Blame the British Muslims for Terrorism First Published: Arab News , Friday, 13, January, 2006     By Dr Shahid Qureshi Saturday 11 July 2009
Approximately 1.8 million law-abiding British Muslims are playing their role in the development of the UK economy. Thousands of British citizens are working in Muslim countries and bringing foreign exchange to the country. Their contribution cannot be overlooked and they should not be blamed for crimes they did not commit. At a dinner hosted by Pakistan’s Foreign Minister Khurshid Mahmud Kasuri for journalists, politicians and businessmen in London a few weeks ago, a British MP of Pakistani origin said something like British Muslims, “should condemn terrorism, take responsibility for their actions and come out with denial.” I totally agree with the MP from Glasgow, but as far as July 7 London bombings are concerned, it’s a criminal act and should be treated accordingly. British Muslims condemn terrorism whether carried out by individuals or states. Although we still don’t know who were the perpetrators of the July 7 bombings, British people would like to know who ordered the crisis management exercises at the places where bombings took place right when the exercises were in progress; and that’s not a conspiracy theory. British security forces performed extremely well in carrying out the investigation; the accidental killing of a Brazilian was, of course, a faux pas. They proved better investigators than the US security forces who questioned a large number of people after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.
British Muslims and specially Pakistanis living in the UK were under intense pressure in the wake of the July 7 bombing probe. Michael Howard, the leader of the opposition in British Parliament, told BBC News 24: “It is sensible to have an inquiry with the benefit of hindsight into what was done and what wasn’t done to see if there are lessons which can be learned. Perhaps there are perhaps there aren’t.”	British security forces performed extremely well in carrying out the investigation; the accidental killing of a Brazilian was, of course, a faux pas.
Chillingly coincidental, “war games” conducted during the actual tragedy on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, echo London underground “bombing exercises” which took place at the same time as the real attack, according to Alex Jones’ Prison Planet.com. “It is clear that at least five if not six training exercises were in progress in the days leading up to and on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001,” Paul Joseph Watson and Alex Jones wrote for Prison Planet.com. Basing their information on a BBC Radio 5 interview, Watson and Jones say a consulting agency with government and police connections was running an exercise for an unnamed company that revolved around the London Underground being bombed at the exact times and locations as happened in real life on the morning of July 7, 2005. “The host interviewed Peter Power, managing director of Visor Consultants, which bills itself as a ‘crisis management advice company’, better known as a PR firm. “Power told the host that exactly at the same time that the London bombings were taking place; his company was running a 1,000-person strong exercise which drilled the London Underground being bombed at the exact same locations, at the exact same times, as happened in real life. Peter Power was a former Scotland Yard official, working at one time with the Anti-Terrorist Branch.” Peter Power told BBC that the drill focused around “simultaneous bombings”. Originally the London bombings were thought to have been spread over an hour, but BBC report says that the bombings were in fact simultaneous. Watson and Jones say, “The fact that the exercise mirrored the exact locations and times of the bombings is light years ahead beyond a coincidence”. The bombs used in July 7 terrorist attacks were of “military origin”, according to a senior French policeman sent to London to help in what has become the biggest criminal investigation in British history reported London daily, Independent on July 12, 2005. Christophe Chaboud, head of the French Anti-Terrorism Coordination Unit, told Le Monde newspaper that the explosives used in the bombings were of “military origin”, which he described as “very worrying”. “We’re more used to cells making home-made explosives with chemicals,” he said. “How did they get them? Either by trafficking, for example, in the Balkans, or they had someone on the inside who enabled them to get out of the military establishment.” He added that the victims’ wounds suggested that the explosives, which were “not heavy but powerful”, had been placed on the ground, perhaps underneath seats. Many British newspapers reported on drills weeks and months before the bombings, but none of them picked up on the biggest story of them all, a drill on the day of the attack. Why? If one analyzes the terrorist attacks in London it becomes clear that some vested interests want Muslims and Christians to fight each other. Forces that describe Muslims as terrorists and perpetrate atrocities in the name of countering terrorism are themselves sponsors of terrorism. The Madrid train bombers were found to be police informers with close links to the Spanish security services. They had access to the most secure areas of the Madrid train system. The London Underground exercises were used as a cover to carry out the attack. This is the biggest smoking gun yet pointing directly to the most secretive levels of the British government. British double-agent was in Real IRA’s Omagh bomb team, reported Neil Mackay of Sunday Herald, Aug. 19, 2001. British security forces didn’t intercept the Real IRA’s Omagh bombing team because one of the terrorists was a British double-agent whose cover would have been blown as an informer if the operation was uncovered. The security forces were forced to hope that their agent would provide them with intelligence to ensure that the bomb would go off without casualties. In the event, due to blundered telephone warnings, 29 people died on Aug. 15 1998. We have to look at the beneficiaries of the terrorist incidents as well as the criminals, irrespective of their religion and nationality who are working for the evil forces. The evil forces that are desperately trying to pit Muslims against Christians are not completely unsuccessful. Published: Arab News , Friday, 13, January, 2006 (14, Dhul Hijjah, 1426)  (The above article was first published by Arab News and is placed on various websites worldwide) J7: The July 7th Truth Campaign  http://www.julyseventh.co.uk/july-7-article-shahid-qureshi.html

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