Alllearners, whatever their level, have questions and doubts about grammar as they're learning English. There is also a grammar reference which helps to explain the verb tenses and grammar rules in a clear and simple way.
Decide which area of grammar you need help with today and choose a grammar point to work on. When you do the interactive exercises, you can see how well you've done. By revising and practising your grammar you will increase your confidence in English and improve your language level.
Practise using grammar with your classmates in live group classes, get grammatical support from a personal tutor in one-to-one lessons or practise grammar by yourself at your own pace with a self-study course.
I know there are several similar threads already, but you guys are so helpful that I want to ask specifically
So I am currently level 16, and just started to pick up grammar at level 15. I got Genki 1 for Christmas and have started reading it. The grammar part in each section is amazing, things are starting to makes sense and the WaniKani background helps a lot (I actually know most of these words!). However, I wonder how I should practice it. The book also has really god questions and tasks, however often without the solution. I wonder if there are some recommended sites that can give me better feedback, like WaniKani, but with grammar.
I know many people use Duolingo and Japanese.io. What are your opinions on these applications?
To sum up, I look for a resource to actually practice my grammar. I use WaniKani for vocabulary and kanji, genki for learning grammar, but I need to practice it. To add on, I am planning to do two semesters of Japanese at my university starting after summer, and I am going to use Genki there, so it would be nice to practice something else now.
Thank you for any input, and again sorry for the repetitive question!
Agree with @Saimin here. I recently bought their lifetime access as it was currently on sale. Still low level but I know what I am getting into. Several WK members I know and interact with here in the WK forums are there too. I kinda pulled the trigger on getting this now because I plan to take JLPT N5 this December. As it is only offered once a year, I figure I have enough time from now till then.
I got ninja-edited by Saimin , but yes, there is a Genki path. I have the Genki I book too and I have the textbook on the way. So after I do my WK review I will tackle several pages of Genki and then do my BunPro reviews. I also have the book below on the way. But just the basic (yellow) one. I will purchase the rest later on as needed.
All the best! I have an inkling if you proceed with your self-study, you will ace that class and zoom through everybody else. If you find this true when it happens, consider focusing on your speaking and listening while in class as well as directing your more pointed questions to the teacher. Best of luck I hope 2020 is lykkebringende.
They even have leech training built-in I believe. They call it ghost training reviews and I think is built-in to your regular reviews. Maybe @Saimin can chime in on this matter as I am still new to it.
So far I have been saying them out loud, however (thanks to this thread) I do not think I will be doing it anymore. My plan is to read the grammar sections in Genki, then unlock those lessons on Bunpro, and rely on Bunpros exercises.
There is two reasons: 1 Bunpro is made like WaniKani, but with grammar. That means it will automatically que your reviews, and keep track of what you remember and do not remember. It will also give you instant feedback on the tasks, which just the textbook does not.
The second reason is that I will be taking a Japanese course next semester (autumn) that will be using Genki, so I do not want to do all the tasks now.
One of the main reasons why so many education systems around the world are failing to produce students who can speak a foreign language properly (even at an elementary level) is their strong emphasis on learning grammar as a foundation to speaking.
Well before the age of 5 (around the time you begin studying grammar in school) you were already a fluent speaker of your native language. You knew how to use verbs in different tenses before you even knew what a verb was. Toddlers start using complex sentences on their own without ever receiving explicit instruction or memorizing grammar rules.
Consider for a moment that during this process of language development the child is obviously unable to read and learns all of this vocabulary and structure simply by listening to people around him/her.
Modern analyses of real data suggest that we are much less original in using language than we like to believe. Much of what we say, and a significant proportion of what we write, consists of prefabricated multi-word items. Fully fixed expressions must be acquired as wholes in precisely the same way as individual words or very strong collocations.
I totally agree with you about grammar. Listening is the most important aspect of language learning. Grammar is great for educating yourself in a language but speaking and educating are two different things.
Jeez ... amazing how this statement of yours can motivate the frustrated eggheads to post their nonsense and completely missing the point.
It is due to this ingrained resistance and closed mindset that formal school language learning is complete BS for most students.
This article is very useful for me as a foreign language teacher. I invite my colleagues to read it carefully and try harder to incorporate these amazing ideas when planning, monitoring and evaluating students learning, because what really matters is what they can communicate using the target language and not how correct they are in terms of structures and gramma, at least not at the beginning stages.
Hello, Donovan. I find your blog very useful. The part about students learning grammar for years and reading advanced texts is exactly about me, but I want to change this and explore ways to find people to practice conversational skills.
You can learn a language through studying grammar. I did with English. Lots of classes studying verb tenses, parts of speech, the morphology of the language etc. The difference was that my English teachers taught grammar little by little and provided us with lots, lots of speaking practice - in addition to listening exercises, writing tasks, games etc. And yet, I know plenty of people who acquired a language by simply being immersed in it. At the end of the day, it seems to me that people may have different learning styles. Some students, like me and other adults, may not develop accuracy without studying grammar, while others may successfully speak a language without knowing what an adjective is. My point is: the problem may not be whether we should study grammar or not, but who might need it and how we should study it.
Hello,
I would like to ask if you have any materials to learn English through chunks. Any short dialogues or videos which I could listen and also I think it is important that would be helpful if someone could explain particular chunks. Because I can find some dialogues on Youtube but for me where English is my second language it is difficult to find out which phrases are actually chunks. Do you have materials like that? Made by you or someone else?
Many years ago (1970s), I took two years of German in high school and then studied it for two more years and received a Two-Year Degree in German from a Junior College. Funny thing is, I never really learned German. What did we study? Mostly, grammar.
After returning, I took a 24 credit hour Spanish college course for people who had learned Spanish via a foreign experience and easily got an A. The professor expressed amazement at my command of the grammar.
Jac, you can know something through studying it, or by internalizing it. They are not the same, you know. I myself have internalized the patterns of English, Dutch, German and Japanese to some extent using a no-grammar, or grammar-lite approach. And you can remember words, phrases and word patterns through means other than memorization too.
I was originally going to disagree with you, but after reading your post and a long debate between you and someone else in the comments, I think that I now mostly agree with you. I still believe that grammar is important, but I think that it may be best to leave everything aside from the very basics to after you have achieved some fluency in the language. Personally, I have found that learning German is somewhat easier because I started with a program that focused primarily on pronunciation and dialogues instead of jumping straight into heavy grammar instruction.
Anyway, I believe that it would be beneficial to start focusing a little more on learning chunks of a language as you explained in your post. I am currently teaching myself German. Do you have any suggestions (beyond using phrasebooks) on how to start using this method? For example, would it be beneficial for a beginner to listen to a German podcast or read a German newspaper?
3 A French linguist doctorate reseacher in the Lyon university discovered the following scientific facts about oral French
Oral language speed 12/16 sounds per second .
Aural (hearing ) 4/ 6 sounds per second
3 The M.I.T director of the Cognitive Science deparment Steven Pinker talks about the following experiment in his book : Instinct of Language
They reproduced electronically the sound frequencies of an 8 word common sentence.(no human sounds
One of my cousins who lived in Montreal started teaching a very simplified sign language to her 8 month old baby girl.
A few months laterghis cousin visited my mother in her ihouse in the U.S
She told me that this 1 year old came into the kitchen and asked where the cat was in sign language . My mother explained to her without gesturing where she thought it was , and the little one came back with the kitten a few minutes later.
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