Waves Melodyne

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Ifyou have more time go with melodyne. It is specialized in instrument/vocal processing and you can play around with adjusting timbre.

If you have a tight time line and nobody does hear that you fixed it with variaudio. go for vari.

I hear this even when doing small adjustements (1/4 step), as soon as Variaudio is engaged the audio distorts. It took me some time to realize that Variaudio was screwing my recordings, now I prefer recording the audio one more time than using Variaudio.

Red circles - I selected D Major, and I even put an X on the C# key, but it still scans a C# note. What am I missing? That note should be a D. I suppose I can drag it into place, but I thought the purpose of identifying the legal notes is so that the VST will do most of the work.

Also, my years spent using note and scale identifiers has never been more than 80% accurate, and those 80% times were very few. Only times they catch the right scale and pitch is when the vocalist is having an unusually great day or when I have someone with perfect pitch.

other factors also include background noise, mismatched impedance, dc offset, bad diaphragm on the microphone that bends easily at the slightest of breathing or change of room air pressure, and of course any noise with a pitch going in in the background is going to cause auto pitch correction inaccuracies. And also always start your project applying a global key signature, timing and tempo so that all of the smart plugins can conform to instructions.

Yes, that's true, but in this case it's not in the melody so I was trying to block it out and have the pitch correction software shift it up to the next note, D, which is what I was trying to sing. If this app can't do that, then I don't know if it's worth the money.

Thanks for your comments. It's interesting to me that one of those blue circles was exactly one octave above the note I was singing. Maybe it was a harmonic that happens naturally. So do you think a pitch correction VST can make any significant improvement to what I sing or am I wasting my time? Should I try setting the scale and fiddling with the notes in the scale, or just use the tool "chromatically" and edit the notes manually? How do I force it to re-scan if I change some scale settings? And how to I lock the correction into the track so that it doesn't re-scan and return to the real vocal? Is there a way to commit the changes "destructively" (I think is the term) once I am satisfied and can I remove the VST from the track at that time?

I'm digging into this now. Melodyne was not in my copy of CdB so I Googled it. It appears that you can install a 30 day trial in Cakewalk. OK, I may be game for that. But it looks like there are multiple versions of Melodyne at multiple price points. I'd do the beginner level at $99, but not the higher levels at $399. I suppose they are going to let you test the expensive version for 30 days to wow you, but what I want to test is the entry level version. Do you know the "deets" (details)? I may find the answer Googling around before you have time to reply.

the melodyne essentials will do a decent job of monophonic fixes. lots of power there. i have the Editor version which is single track polyphonic which is quite nice (but as you noted $$$). i also have Waves Tune which i have only used a few times and (to me) it seemed easy enough to use (dragging notes, etc) but i didn't try out the automatic features or custom scales etc. maybe some quality time with the Waves Tune manual, or some youtube videos, will get you working. i know i learned a lot of tricks for melodyne watching the Celemony content.

I tried my first fix in Melodyne with the first line of my verse. I was off on my pitch a lot of places. That doesn't surprise me. Maybe I'll go back and run this on some recordings I did 30 years ago to see if I was really much closer. I spent 5 minutes dragging the blobs (notes) around and double-clicking them to tune them based on my correct notes. OMG. I went from terrible to "not too bad". This is a "Where have you been all my life?" moment. I'll try using it's automatic functions next, but if I have to spend a few minutes manually fixing my vocals by dragging the blobs around, I can live with that. It seems to be a step ahead of Waves Tune overall. I'll pay the $99 but I'll wait a few weeks and maybe they'll send me a discount offer, Thanks for the tip. Later I might still buy the Ovox, but this will keep me busy for a while. Do you know how I commit a change to the audio track after I've cleaned it up in Meoldyne, or is that not possible?

It looks like that opens up a whole new area of study: Region FX. I see that information in the Cakewalk documentation. I probably can also study it in some YouTube tutorials. My question is: Is that the way I should use Melodyne to edit my vocal tracks? Should I convert them to Region FX clips and when they are tweaked the way I want them Render them to the audio track? Or do creators/producers prefer to just make the changes in Melodyne, save the project with the audio track as a normal track using the Audio FX, and then eventually master the song that way?

i know in editor i can open the files directly and process in Melodyne. i've forgotten is the essentials version provides a standalone UI. otherwise i tend to just use it as a region FX and also take a copy of the MIDI generated (never know when that will come in useful - sax solos based on vocals. etc). the Region FX is applied to the audio clips - when you create it - Melodyne creates a bunch of files called "separations" which it uses to manage what you see in the UI. then once you're happy with the edits in the region, render it. this saves the clip with the updates and cleans up the separations. then it's saved as a normal audio track in your project and you can do your other work - eq, effects, etc - same as any other project.

Hi. I really don't think anything compares with Melodyne and my vocals are the same. I can hear the sharpness and flatness and it ain't pretty. What I normally do is make a backup copy of the entire vocal track. Archive it. This is to have something to go back to and compare with if needed. Choose the suspicious phrase, I think Control R will open it in Melodyne. I can't remember is that is the default or I did it, but I think the default. Tune to your desire. You can render it, or as some of my clients are really worthy to be pitched and thankful for it I have many edits, so I just hit B which bounces it to track. I think you might lose a little bit of gain, but no sonic difference in quality. I got the Essentials one for free with Cakewalk (or maybe it was Sonar) but as it does not allow you to tweak the vibrato which makes a huge difference, I purchased the next up- Assistant?

If you want a second opinion or to find out how good you (it) can sound, render me a stereo mix of the music and your voice separate and I will take a look at it. I am very careful what I spend these days, but I need Melodyne in my work flow.

Are you saying you will process it further with Assistant to show me what it will do? That's a generous offer, if I understood correctly. Did you have to pay full price or do they offer discounts sometimes? Should I get on their mailing list?

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