Moving in Prnayam

[Deepak Bajaj]

Hi All,

This thread is for those who are planning to move into Pranayam after the possession. I urge all to provide details so that we will have a consolidate list and would be a great support to each other.

Name: Deepak Bajaj & Aashima Gandhi

Unit: D3 1507

Expected to move by: 4-6 months after possession

E-Mail: mrdeep...@gmail.com

Regards

Deepak Bajaj

[Pankaj Srivastava]

Hi ,

 

      I am planning to move in first week of Jan . (   B1 - 201  )

 

Regds
Pankaj Srivastava

[K.S.Majithia]

Planning to move-in around June-July 2013

Unit: D5-302

Capt. K.S.Majithia

[anil....@pvrcinemas.com]

Planning to move around jan

C 3 / 902

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[R.Kapur]

I presume that the people those who are planning to move to Pranayam have made the total payment and got the conveyance deed executed in their favour.

I have not made the payment for the heads contested by Pranayam group in their joint memorandum and would request the active members of the group  to advise in their matter immediately by return mail.

It is my considered opinion that we should not be hesitant in giving our free and fair opinion/advise so that the people those who have  withheld a part payment  on the advise of active members of group should not unnecessary bear loss ultimately.

Kind regards,

Ravi   

[Deepak Bajaj]

We have not received the letter so far but once received, we plan to settle it and move in. The reason being that it is mentioned in the contract clause the rise in steel prices and other charges. Some of the charges like registry are more but I have checked up with other socities (not in faridabad), the first registry is done through builder only as court provides dates for cumulative registries. Secondly, first year maintenance charges are always taken in advance. We can argue about the rates but its no use coparing to other societies. Nobody is even closer to the various features provided by pranayam. Of course this is my personal opinion and can be different from others.

And we also feel that after spending so much on the flat, we would not mind spending a little more. We do not have time for the courts and laws.But if some of us who are planning to move in can come together we can meet Mr. Puri and take a final call. It would be unpleasant otherwise to pay additional interest on the payment not made by us.

I would also request everybody to jot down the points in the demand letter which they feel are incorrect. This will help us consolidate the points.

Best Regards

Deepak Bajaj

[K.S.Majithia]

I have paid the undisputed amount and the rest is in abeyance.

This was to stall for some more time till we come to a consensus.

 

Regards

Capt.K.S.Majithia

D-5/302

 

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I presume that the people those who are planning to move to Pranayam have made the total payment and got the conveyance deed executed in their favour.

[Deepak Bajaj]

Capt.K.S.Majithia,  can you please share with us the following information:

1. What heads of the demand letter you have paid?

2. How much amount you have put on hold?

3. Have you crossed pass your 30 days as mentioned in the letter? If yes,  wouldn't puri charge the interest or any other complications?

Best regards,

Deepak Bajaj

[Vijay Sethi]

Hello ji any one moving in c1

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[Ananta Sinha]

Dear all -

Anybody of C8 has got possession + final settlement letter, kindly do inform in detail. I did not receive the same so far & waiting for the same.

Thanks & best regards,
 
ANANTA KUMAR SINHA 

C8.

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[sachin Kumar]

Although I am yet to receive the Offer of possession but I am planned to shift in Pranayam by feb/march 2013.

Regards
Sachin
C9/601

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Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 03:38:05 -0800
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Subject: Moving in Prnayam

[Deepak Bajaj]

Anybody else got the registration done? We are expecting our letter by 20th or so. Lets see. Another thing I would like to ask to those who opted for luxury option: What ACs are being offered (make and tonnage)? And are they as per your contract and understanding?

Best Regards

Deepak Bajaj

[Tarun Kumar]

I had seen Hitachi AC's cartons lying on the floors at many places (1.5 ton). Someone who had got the possession may confirm 

Regards

[anil....@pvrcinemas.com]

1.5 ton hitachi 2 star

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[Subhash Kumar]

The ACs being provided differ depending on your contract.For 3Bedroom apartments,Those who had booked when project was launched have Hitachi marked in their contarct.They are getting 2Tr ACs in their Drawing/Dining.I donot know about the bedrooms.The buyers who came in later on do not have capacities or brand marked in their contracts.They are getting 1.5TR -2star ACs in Drawing/Dining area and 1TR -3star <Whirpool ACs in bed rooms.That’s what I got in D3.

Regards

Subhash Kumar

[Pulkit]

Yes, I agree with Subhash, The people who have booked their apartments in classic are getting 2 star hitachi 1.5 tonne split AC as mentioned in contract, people in luxury apartment are getting 2 tonne split in living/dining area as mentioned in contract and 1 tonne whirlpool AC in bedroom as contract for all buyers mentions only split AC in bedroom and no brand or tonnage is specified in the agreement.

 

Yes this is not as per our understanding as it was always mentioned 1.5 ton Hitachi in bedrooms for all luxury apartment but they did not mention that in agreement. If anyone has different contract, please let the group know about it.

 

Regards

[R.Kapur]

 I understand from the mails that few flat buyers have been give the possession which means that they have paid the total amount demanded by PCL including the amount contested by the group in their memorandum.

Pl. update on the outcome of memorandum submitted to PCL. Is there any favourable response from PCL?

Kind reagrds,

Ravi 

[Deepak Bajaj]

Its my feeling that there is no outcome of the memorandum. And since the charges are ad per clause, it could be a long battle for which many of us might not have time.

As I mentioned earlier, that we have received the possession letter. We visited the site yesterday. We have some concerns which we would like to share.

1. As per the possession letter, there is an annexure 4 that needs to be submitted.  As per clause 4 and 5 we are liable to pay enhanced EDC and IDC in future which we feel is incorrect. Once the possession has been handed over, there could not be any EDC IDC applicable.  Please share ypur views and huide us.

2. Those who have opted fot luxury option (D block) and have got the keys of the flat, can they please tell us how is their plunge pool? Is it functional and is it provided with under water lights? Their marketing people told us that it will be provided.

3.  Its a general concern that is it ok to make the full payment since our flat is not ready? Do they complete it afterwards to your satisfaction? I would request all those who have got the keys to please provide their views.

[subroto haldar]

Dear All,

 

I was in Delhi / India for 2 days last week and I paid a visit to Pranayam site but before that I did talk to PCL about the expected date of possession letter and as per them it should be around 15th Jan 2013 for my unit (C8-1003)...

 

What I gathered after talking to them and visiting the site is as follows:

1. Looking at the condition of the partment / building, I am not sure how they are providing the date on which they will issue the possession letter...

2. They expect the customer to take approx. 30 days to organize the amount and pay them

3. Once that payment is received, they will take approx. 30 more days to complete the pending jobs in the apartment so that it is in an acceptable status for handover and the customer can move in.

4. The only way left for the customers to move in is to pay whatever is demanded (eg. 6 - 8 Lacs instead of 3 - 4 Lacs). This is an intelligent way to extract money from those customers who are already paying EMI and Rental.. at least, they will be able to get rid of one commitment.

5. This means from PCL... they are ready to provide service if you are ready to pay.

 

But based on my observation at site, I have the following points to highlight...

- My Unit is in Tower C8 (Unit No. 1003). The tower is not at all ready for "living". Based on the condition of my apartment, it is not in a condition to handover within the next 3-4 months at least.

- The edges of almost every wall was damaged / broken which they will obviously repair but the issue is when I was rubbing my fingers against those broken edges I could feel that things are not right. Either the curing (with water) was not done properly or cement : sand mixture was not appropriate or something which is definitely not correct...

- At the Site Office, they have been talking over the phone and promising that the quality of the apartments will be met as per the specs but these points will not be visible after the plaster is applied.

- One of the elevators was working but you can say, it is only for construction purpose and not for living.

- Overall the idea is to hand over "just the apartment".

My point is, we have invested in a Gated Community and NOT in an apartment only. Are we looking for a place where we live our families in a building where there's dust / cement / sand / construction workers everywhere. Looking at the site and its overall progress, I am not sure how long would it take to complete the whole project.

Regards

Subroto Haldar

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Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 10:27:28 +0530

Subject: Re: Moving in Prnayam

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[K.S.Majithia]

It is surprising to note Subroto’s comments from which it appears that the complex is still not ready for living.

 

However PCL has been publicising that a few families have already moved in (including a appreciation letter posted on the website from a customer who appears to have moved in on 1^st November)

 

Did you see any signs of people living in the complex??

 

Regards

K.S.Majithia

 

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Dear All,

[Deepak Bajaj]

Yes we saw 2-3 families living there. Definitely in A tower and 3 families are moving in tower D. The labour is there and common areas are yet yo be finished. And yes its little difficult to live there currently. Though tower A seems to be in much better shape thsn D.

Anybody can help us by sharing views on the conserns raised by us? Appreciate your help.

Best regards

Deepak Bajaj

[MARUTI METAL & ALLOYS]

Yesterday,  i  gone  there to see the  flat of  one  of  my  flat in  C1 tower although  i have  a  flat  in D4. Puri's have  definitely  not   delivered  what  they  have  said.My  friend has also  gone  through  the  registry & now  has  a  full possession .I  got   really really  disappointed. The very  non-professional  maintenance  people who  are there,  are very well  trained  to compel   the flat holder  to  accept  the  things  as  they  are.here  are very  few  examples-:

1.Out let point of water in  plunge pool is  just  like  a    municipality  Tap. 

2.All  the  wooden gates have  extra holes of  drill machines,which  is  a  carpenter  mistake &  are visible   very  clearly.

3.Tiles in Bathroom  looks  like  it  is  a DDA  flat.

4.Taps in  bathrooms  are  leaking from different  points.

5.Granite  slabs of  washbasins  are   not  polished but  they  say   sir  it polished.

6.2-3 marble  tiles have  a  clear  crack in  living & dining room ,which  they  say  it  is  not  a  crack. they  think  we  are  fools.

7.Entry gate of Master  bedroom opens  in  a  so  called dressing  room,  which they call  it  is  a  dressing  room,one  cant   even make  a  almira  in  dressing room as  wooden  gate   will   cover   all  the  space of  so  called dressing  room.I mean  to  say  that  master bedroom   is  literary without  the  dressing  room ,no  matter  what  they  say. 

Many  more  problems  are   there. "Sir,ye  to  aisa  hi  rahega " this  is  the answer you   got   for  all  the  problems.

I  am  worried ,seeing what  i  will  get in   my  flat &   who  is  the  responsible /sensible   person   to  complain  all  our  problem.

I  steel  have  not  got  any  letter  from  puri's  but  what i  have  seen  yesterday ,D4  is  not  ready  to  live in. Already  work  is  going  on  there. scaffolding are there on  full building form  the  entry  side. I  will  be  perplexed i  they   send  possession  letters to  D4 tower.Although other  towers  in  D block were  looking  ready  from  outside.  

Before  yesterday, i  was sure  that  Puri  will   deliver   what  he  say, but now  i  am  lil worried. 

Akaash Bansal 

[MARUTI METAL & ALLOYS]

Yesterday,  i  gone  there to see the  flat of  one  of  my friend's  flat in  C1 tower although  i have  a  flat  in D4. Puri's have  definitely  not   delivered  what  they  have  said.My  friend has also  gone  through  the  registry & now  has  a  full possession .I  got   really really  disappointed. The very  non-professional  maintenance  people who  are there,  are very well  trained  to compel   the flat holder  to  accept  the  things  as  they  are.here  are very  few  examples-:

1.Out let point of water in  plunge pool is  just  like  a    municipality  Tap. 

2.All  the  wooden gates have  extra holes of  drill machines,which  is  a  carpenter  mistake &  are visible   very  clearly.

3.Tiles in Bathroom  looks  like  it  is  a DDA  flat.

4.Taps in  bathrooms  are  leaking from different  points.

5.Granite  slabs of  washbasins  are   not  polished but  they  say   sir  it polished.

6.2-3 marble  tiles have  a  clear  crack in  living & dining room ,which  they  say  it  is  not  a  crack. they  think  we  are  fools.

7.Entry gate of Master  bedroom opens  in  a  so  called dressing  room,  which they call  it  is  a  dressing  room,one  cant   even make  a  almira  in  dressing room as  wooden  gate   will   cover   all  the  space of  so  called dressing  room.I mean  to  say  that  master bedroom   is  literary without  the  dressing  room ,no  matter  what  they  say. 

Many  more  problems  are   there. "Sir,ye  to  aisa  hi  rahega " this  is  the answer you   got   for  all  the  problems.

I  am  worried ,seeing what  i  will  get in   my  flat &   who  is  the  responsible /sensible   person   to  complain  all  our  problem.

I  steel  have  not  got  any  letter  from  puri's  but  what i  have  seen  yesterday ,D4  is  not  ready  to  live in. Already  work  is  going  on  there. scaffolding are there on  full building form  the  entry  side. I  will  be  perplexed i  they   send  possession  letters to  D4 tower.Although other  towers  in  D block were  looking  ready  from  outside.  

Before  yesterday, i  was sure  that  Puri  will   deliver   what  he  say, but now  i  am  lil worried. 

Akaash Bansal 

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[dkpra...@gmail.com]

Hi went to the site yesterday and my experience is not different from others.
To me puri's have cheated us all and now they are trying to handover the flat with all sorts of defects and the persons at site are not ready to listen and are full of excuses for which I think they are paid for by puris.
In my case, my flat is in c1 tower which is full of seepage and the person at site first of all was not ready to except that the seepage is still continuing however after much of effort he agreed that it is there. However now according to him it would take months togther for this seepage to be treated.
Futher none of geasure points in any of the washrooms are usable as they are very close to false sealing. However according to the person at site it is a mistake made by the architect and now nothing can be done.
However at the end of it we as buyers are the losers.
I would suggest to atleast come together now and fight for getting what we have paid for or else we all would loose if we still work and fight in isolation.

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[Deepak Bajaj]

Dear all,

I think we all have some grivieances and I feel that we should talk to mr.kaushik in person and sort this out. I think its unreasonable to offer a flat gor possession which is not complete. Once the payment is made, it would be impossible to catch them and get the work done. I am anyways planning to mertsnd hold some money till work is completed. At least I can fight.if anyone wishes to join, please let me know.

Best regards

Deepak Bajaj

[dkpra...@gmail.com]

Deepak,
The builder is not ready to start the final work till all the payment is done, including the registration amount. Not sure how you would manage to hold back some of builders money.
In my opinion we have to fight the builder together then only we stand some chance else I don't think we stand any chance individually.

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[MARUTI METAL & ALLOYS]

How  can  he  demand the   final  money,  when flat is not  ready. it  means builder  is  taking full money &  not satisfying its  customer's ultimately. its  horrible ....A serious  mater  of  concern..........what  to  do................totally  confused................our  hard earned  money & expectations  ?????????????????

[Deepak Bajaj]

So anybody wants to join? I will be writing to them tomorrow for the meeting.  We can go together.

Another thing I would like to share is that the quality of pranayam is still much much better than others. I have personally seen omaxe,  bptp and imperial estate. Of course nobody is perfect and builders can't build like you would.  I would be content if they address my 2-3 serious concerns. Rest I feel is as per the promise.

Let's be positive about it guys.

Best regards

Deepak Bajaj

[MARUTI METAL & ALLOYS]

I  agree  with Mr  Deepak Bajaj, construction  quality  looks  good. But   as   i  have  not   got  my letter  till now, i will wait  for  that & then after  seeing my flat  , i will  take  the  decision.

[pankaj.s...@shahi.co.in]

Hi
--- I have just got Horizontal geyser installed . Do not go for verticle geyser as it is not viable there due to false sealing and the points provided .Also it is important that geyser fitting should be done in presence of some plumber of Puri's project team else there is chance that person who has come to fit geyser might end up putting drill in water pipes inside wall and punchering it

--- I am in B block and have started encountering seepage problems in walls adjoining bathrooms . Spent half day today there to figure out who is the right person to speak regarding this . I will be watching this seepage problem further this week before going for a killing spree to whoever all are concerned .

Will be moving there next week .

Regds
Pankaj

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[MARUTI METAL & ALLOYS]

So,  Mr  pankaj  have   got  any responsible  right   person.

[Deepak Bajaj]

Dear pankaj ji,

Thanks for the valuable input. Seepage problem is not good. Do let us know if you are able to get your problem solved?

Also let us know your view on clause 4 and 5 of annexure 4 that accompanied the possession letter.

Best regards

Deepak Bajaj

[dkpra...@gmail.com]

Thanks pankaj for sharing the feedback...
Please do let me know if you want me to join in search for a response-reliable person at builders end, who can help in getting ride of the seepage.
Also as I have already paid in full I don't have the option to holdback money and therefore I am evaluating option to look other means to bring the builder to task.
Hope you understand what I mean, if any of you interested to join, please do let me know.

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Subject: Re: Moving in Prnayam

[Pankaj Srivastava]

Dear DK ,

              maintaince agecy incharge here has assured me that they will review this  problem with civil work team of PCL in latter half of this week and will take appropriate action . Lets see  how they handle this . 

              They have very promptly handled the other  teething problems that I have been facing and I am sure that they will  take care of this as well . Will keep you updated .

Regds
Pankaj Srivastava

[Pankaj Srivastava]

Dear Deepak ,

 

                    I  cann't comment on the legalities involved here  but my cousin who had got his flat registered in Mahindra's Chloris in FBD has got notice for  increased EDC months after they had got the registry done and they had to comply with it .

 

Regds
Pankaj Srivastava

[Deepak Bajaj]

Dear Pankaj,

How is your general feeling about the PCL management? How difficult is to approach them? What is their attitude towards the problems and how helpful they are?

Best regards

Deepak Bajaj

[Pankaj Srivastava]

Dear Deepak ,

 

                 I have been getting jobs done in my  apartment  since more than a month now and everytime   I face any issue, even at any odd hours, they are quite prompt  and have dealt it in quite desired manner .  So I am not of opinion that after  handing over apartment they are  not just washing off their hands ,  they will remain much liable for issues and they have  been handling it in fair manner .

 

                         

 

Regds
Pankaj Srivastava

[MARUTI METAL & ALLOYS]

Thanks  Pankaj ji ,

its  seems ,that   situation  is  not  that  bad  as  it  looks. GOOD................................

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[Deepak Bajaj]

Dear Pankaj,

Thanks and its good to know that they are attending. Good luck for the seepage problem and do keep us updated on the same. Your inputs are appreciated.

Best regards

Deepak Bajaj

[Subhash Kumar]

Dear Pankaj

Have you moved in or planning to movein near future.I am in D3 and have taken the possession.I am planning to move in as  soon as they fix the leakages in

Plumbing system.The seepages due to leaks are major concern.To me it seems the plumbers are not used to working with PPR pipes and fittings  and construction people at site did not anticipate this.So1ist thing on taking possession should be to start checking this aspect.Because of seepage POP and

Paint work is disturbed and in some cases you shall not be able to put in Almirahs or wardrobes till this all is set right.

The attitude of ‘ye to chalega’ is there but you can coax them to rectify to a good extent.Yes they have not provided quality as was expected and showcased in sample apartment.

Mr Bansal ,do not expect much from Plunge pool.They are having problems of seepage because of plunge pool.Either your flat or the one below shall be affected because of this.

Regards and Good Luck to all

Subhash Kumar

[MARUTI METAL & ALLOYS]

Dear  Mr  Subhash,

Actually   you  are  right , I  must  not  expect  too  much  from  puri . Its  good  to  know  that you &  Deepak  ji  will   move in  D-block Asap. I  am  in  D4   but  still  not  got  the  letter.We  can  meet  at  site on  sm  sunday. 

[Pankaj Srivastava]

Dear Mr Subhash ,

 

                        --  I am planning to move on 1st Jan

 

                        --  To me the   problems are more due to poor civil work  in a particular wall  rather than plumbing  leakages . I had faced some plumbing issues in bathroom  that got rectified later  .

 

                        --  If I am not wrong , you were checking for  3rd panel mesh sliding door in addition to 2 panel sliding doors provided by PCL .  There is a company in greater noida who is also manufacturing this . His contact no of its dealer for FBD is  is 9811264113 (  don’t have  his name now ) .

 

Regds
Pankaj Srivastava

[subroto haldar]

I have checked the list of mails those followed my concern which is "PRANAYAM AS A PLACE TO LIVE".

To a certain point this concern was taken care of but after that things took a different turn where owners are again talking about their own units (vertical / horizontal geysers etc.)

Friends...

We need to consider a few things as a group...

1. It does not not matter what other builders have provided. We should be talking about the quality of job in our project. If some other builder has delivered crap, we should not be happy to receive something a little better than crap.

2. Do we move in an apartment which will remain as a "construction site" for an unknown period. The builder is trying to move in the owners asap in order to avoid the "penalty clause". That too, they are delivering only after (full + additional) amount is paid. Once we pay the whole and get the possession we can't demand anything on the completion whole project and make Pranayam a place to "live". And the place will be left as a "construction site" with dust and construction workers around and we shall be at the mercy of the builder.

We as a group need to fight for this. Minor complaints inside apartments has to be taken care individually as there different apartments will have different issues. We are talking about a few thousand even if we need to repair them ourselves. What I am trying to point is our investments of lacs n lacs of rupees in a comfortable gated community.

When I threw these questions to the representatives sitting inside the "show unit" at the site, they were answer-less and tried to deviate from the topic and talk about delivery of my apartment.

Thanks n regards

Subroto Haldar

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[aashima gandhi]

Dear All,

 

This mail is on behalf of my husband - Deepak Bajaj,

 

Our aprtment number is D-3/1502, by error we mentioned 1507 instead.

 

Regards
Aashima

[Deepak Bajaj]

Dear Subroto ji,

I totally agree with you on both the points mentioned by you. But I present a different set of view and would love to have comments from all.

1. It is 100% correct that we should concentrate what we are getting rather than what others are providing. But this comparison helps in boosting morale we are still getting best in what is available in the market. Secondly.there is no way to compare (at least I don't know) what is being offered with the what was promised. As per my site visit on 22 December, they have provided almost everything as per agreement. Things mentioned by their sales team but not mentioned in the agreement does not stand anywhere and I also feel little cheated but I'm ready to bear it.

2. You are correct that it is still not livable at least block D where so many labor is still present and construction going on in the common areas. I also agree that it is incorrect on behalf of PCL to offer possession of the flat which is not yet finished. I've written to them about personal meeting with Mr. Kaushik. Lets see what response I get. Will update the group on the same.

What I feel is that we can do nothing on the construction quality. Whatever has been constructed, it is done. It can not be changed. My focus is now to get the remaining work done and ensure that they deliver all items as per my agreement. I would not like to pay fully without the flat being completed. Seepage is an area of concern and I will raise the matter with them if get the meeting.

I will update everyone and would love if someone wishes to accompany us.

Best Regards

Deepak Bajaj

[aashima gandhi]

Mr Subroto,

 

You have raised a good concern - we have also discussed same during our site visit with Mr Ramneek - PCL respresentative.

 

We enquired about presence of labour in premises nd construction work within premises - he said till March/April this will be like this.And to be more practical for about 1 year there will be constrcution activities in the society.

 

I am not sure if someone observed, the constrcution of EWS flats is gonna take about 1-1.5 yr atleast which is close to A block.

 

We have number of concerns related to overall apartment area apart from our individual flat, nd therefore my husband.We have asked Mr Kaushik sengupta to arrange for a meeting.My Husband- Mr Deepak has asked if anyone among group would like to join us.

 

We are considering not to release payment till they are in position to provide us atleast what is in writing,however we are not sure the impact of same nd might have to give in incase we are alone on fighting on  this.

 

As per our observation following are points are have thought to discuss during meeting:-

 

1. Common Area work completion in towers - Lifts, general lighting, staircases.

(Lift was stucked during our visit,for high rise floors this is major concern)

 

2. Presence of labours in common areas - concern on security.

 

3. Lack of facilities - Swimming pool, gymnasium, tennis court etc.We are charged for these so ideally these needs to be functional while handover of flats.

 

4. Intercomm facility at Security points - this is most required at this stage when very few families will be there.

 

However as we all know real estate is one area where buyer has less say,the agreements have been drafted to benefit the builder most.

 

The only possible way out in our opinion is to discuss with builder, and yes if we all work as team, it may have significant impact.

 

We will look forward to other members to join us for meeting if possible - we will communicate once we hear by PCL on any schedule for same.We have already sent email to them.

 

Regards

Aashima 

 

 

 

 

 

On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 3:11 PM, subroto haldar <subrot...@hotmail.com> wrote:

[kit...@gmail.com]

hi 

we are planning to shift in 6 month ...pls tell me the real update on the occupancy and security thanx

[D K]

Hello All,

We are in C1 tower. We got registration of our flat done in the second week of February. However we are yet to get the final possession of our flat. We have visited the site twice since February second week; however the flat is still not in a condition to be handed over to us. Even after repeated follow-ups PCL has not given us any dates for the final handover.

Also we have not got the allotment letter for the parking. According to the some of the PCL employees whom we meet on the site, parking will be allotted to us along with the Flat handover on the same day. Not sure how true it is. Can someone suggest!!!

Also during our last visit, to our surprise, the tiles in the living room are of different shades, on questioning I am being told that the difference in the shade is due to different lot and nothing can be done in this regard to rectify the same.

Further, I am being told that this is a common issue in almost all flats as the tiles which have come later are having different shade then the previous lot. Once again not sure how much true it is, however if this is a common problem with most of the flats then what are we planning to do to get this issue addressed appropriately by PCL? Please suggest..

Regards,

 

Dhananjay

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[Deepak Bajaj]

Dear Dhananjay,

This is is true that they are not able to stick to their commitment but with little pressure and some compromise, you can get the work done. There is a new manager Mr. Sapru who weekly visits the site. A shade better than others with little more commonsense. They committed 20 Feb as the handover date to me and I was in the same situation. So I shouted at sapru and his team. Sapru himself acknowledged that falt was in bad shape but after that they corrected most of our issues including asymmetric walls. Also, they are ready to give it in writing that pending issues at the time of handover will be sorted out later. 

As regards to color of tiles, you can put your foot down and don't accept it. Shout it out to Sapru, sengupta and something will happen. You need to maintain the pressure. Also, parking letter will come only after handover. I spoke to PCL office (Neha) and she told me the same. So that should be ok. But make sure you physically visit the parking site and see it with your own eyes. There is a lot of difference in map and actual thing.

Our handover is now due on 9th march solets see what happens.

Best Regards

Deepak Bajaj

[bham...@gmail.com]

My name is Rajeev Bhambri D3/1503 Rajan Gangahar D3/1603
6 months after  possession

[cshi...@gmail.com]

We had booked a Classic apt and they had mentioned AC but it's not there in the contract. What would we get, any clues anyone?

It's C-8/1201 A.

Thanks,

Shibani

On Saturday, 15 December 2012 12:12:36 UTC+5:30, Pulkit wrote:

Yes, I agree with Subhash, The people who have booked their apartments in classic are getting 2 star hitachi 1.5 tonne split AC as mentioned in contract, people in luxury apartment are getting 2 tonne split in living/dining area as mentioned in contract and 1 tonne whirlpool AC in bedroom as contract for all buyers mentions only split AC in bedroom and no brand or tonnage is specified in the agreement.

 

Yes this is not as per our understanding as it was always mentioned 1.5 ton Hitachi in bedrooms for all luxury apartment but they did not mention that in agreement. If anyone has different contract, please let the group know about it.

 

Regards

 

On Saturday, 15 December 2012 11:59:15 UTC+5:30, Subhash kumar wrote:

The ACs being provided differ depending on your contract.For 3Bedroom apartments,Those who had booked when project was launched have Hitachi marked in their contarct.They are getting 2Tr ACs in their Drawing/Dining.I donot know about the bedrooms.The buyers who came in later on do not have capacities or brand marked in their contracts.They are getting 1.5TR -2star ACs in Drawing/Dining area and 1TR -3star <Whirpool ACs in bed rooms.That’s what I got in D3.

Regards

Subhash Kumar

 

 

 

From: pranayam...@googlegroups.com [mailto:pranayam...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of anil....@pvrcinemas.com
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1.5 ton hitachi 2 star

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I had seen Hitachi AC's cartons lying on the floors at many places (1.5 ton). Someone who had got the possession may confirm 

 

Regards

 

On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Deepak Bajaj <mrdeep...@gmail.com> wrote:

Anybody else got the registration done? We are expecting our letter by 20th or so. Lets see. Another thing I would like to ask to those who opted for luxury option: What ACs are being offered (make and tonnage)? And are they as per your contract and understanding?

 

 

Best Regards

Deepak Bajaj

On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 8:41 PM, sachin Kumar <sachi...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Although I am yet to receive the Offer of possession but I am planned to shift in Pranayam by feb/march 2013.

Regards
Sachin
C9/601

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Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 03:38:05 -0800
From: mrdeep...@gmail.com

To: pranayam...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Moving in Prnayam

[cshi...@gmail.com]

Hi All,

Name: Banibrata Banerjee & Shibani Chattopadhyay

Unit: C-8/1201 A

Expected to move by: 4-6 months after possession

E-Mail: cshi...@gmail.com

Regards,

Shibani Chattopadhyay

[sud...@maricoworld.net]

Classic 3 bhk comes with AC in one room. Tks sudhir

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Thanks Sudhir for the info!

[Deepak Bajaj]

Dear All,

This is to inform all that we have moved into our apartment D3/1502 on 11/07/2013. I wish to convey my regards to all group members who have been sharing their experiences and provided valuable tips that helped us moving in comfortably. We are facing some basic issues related to bathtub slope and one of the WC but nothing major. This all has been possible by the support of this group and I'm really thankful to all.

Anybody moving in, please let us know of any assistance that we can extend. We would be delighted to of any help.

Anybody cares for a cup of tea at our place :-) ?

Best Regards

Deepak Bajaj

[Pawan Kumar Hemrajani]

Heartiest Congratulations Deepak....Will surely meet up once am there on the site next time.

 

Warm Regards

Pawan Kumar Hemrajani

Mb. 09811224277

Best Regards

Pawan Hemrajani

[K.S.Majithia]

Congratulations Deepak

 

We are on your heels. Took over the possession on 11^th July and expect to move in on 1^st August.

So far the apartment looks OK (operationally) but then we have been there only for a few hours.

 

If you are off on Saturday (20^th ) afternoon – then maybe we can exchange notes over your cup of tea.

(We usually visit on weekends to get the basic set-up: fans / lights / gas connection / water purifier / wardrobes etc.,)

 

Regards

K.S.Majithia

D-5/302

[Vishal]

Congrats Deepak.   We have also done our puja on 14th and planning to shift by 1st Aug

Regds

Vishal (D3/203)

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[Deepak Bajaj]

Dear Majithia ji,

Thank you very much. Unfortunately, this Saturday is not off for me. If possible, you can come over on Sunday and we can share cup of tea.

Best Regards

Deepak Bajaj

[Deepak Bajaj]

Dear Vishal,

Congratulations. Puja is the first step. And keep us informed about your move in date.

Best Regards

Deepak Bajaj

[MARUTI METAL & ALLOYS]

Is anybdy  planning to  shift in  D4 Tower ?

Akaash  Bansal(D4/1503)

[Vishal]

Dear Aakash

I have heard that two families have shifted on 1st floor

Regds

Vishal

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[Vikrant Kathuria]

Dear Friends,

We too should be moving to C -12 / 601 by the first week of next month. In fact, my parents have started staying there already. We have been received very warmly by people who have already moved in. It certainly appears to be a nice community to be a part of.

Whatever little time I have spent there so far suggests that the flat will have to be tinkered with quite a bit. On paper the flat has most of the things but the attention to detail is lacking. From the AC ducts to the drains - they are all there but not exactly where they are supposed to be. Not as classy and thoughtful as I thought it could be considering that it has been done by 'professionals'.

Looking forward to meeting you there in another couple of weeks !

Vikrant Kathuria
+91 9999 5959 50

Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain  - Friedrich von Schiller

[Residents Pranayam]

Welcome to Pranayam..Tomorrow evening at 8 PM we are having a resident meeting.See U.

Subhash

D3/1701

[MARUTI METAL & ALLOYS]

Where in  Club?

[dkpra...@gmail.com]

Please suggest the venue of the meeting.

Regards,

Dhananjay

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[Vishal]

When is this meeting please?

Regds

Vishal

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[Subhash Kumar]

Sir

There is no meeting at present.

 

Regards

Subhash kumar

[Subhash Kumar]

Dear sir

There is no meeting at present

 

Regards

Subhash kumar

[Davesh Rajput]

Dear subhashjee,

I have recently got my registry done and came to know that recently there is some RWA formation haoppened and u guys are fighting against puri's through facebook medium. I want to support the same and want to be paryt f the RWA as well.

Pls let me know d procedure .

Rgds,
Davesh
C 3 / 602

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Dear sir
There is no meeting at present
 
Regards
Subhash kumar
 

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Please suggest the venue of the meeting.

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Dhananjay

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Where in  Club?

 

 

On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Residents Pranayam <resident...@gmail.com <mailto:resident...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Welcome to Pranayam..Tomorrow evening at 8 PM we are having a resident meeting.See U.
Subhash
D3/1701
 

From: pranayam...@googlegroups.com <mailto:pranayam...@googlegroups.com> [mailto:pranayam...@googlegroups.com <mailto:pranayam...@googlegroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Deepak Bajaj
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Subject: Re: Moving in Prnayam

 

Dear All,

 

This is to inform all that we have moved into our apartment D3/1502 on 11/07/2013. I wish to convey my regards to all group members who have been sharing their experiences and provided valuable tips that helped us moving in comfortably. We are facing some basic issues related to bathtub slope and one of the WC but nothing major. This all has been possible by the support of this group and I'm really thankful to all.

Anybody moving in, please let us know of any assistance that we can extend. We would be delighted to of any help.

Anybody cares for a cup of tea at our place :-) ?

 

Best Regards

Deepak Bajaj
 

On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 3:21 PM, <cshi...@gmail.com <mailto:cshi...@gmail.com> > wrote:
Thanks Sudhir for the info!

On Tuesday, 28 May 2013 20:21:14 UTC+5:30, sud...@maricoworld.net <mailto:sud...@maricoworld.net> wrote:

Classic 3 bhk comes with AC in one room. Tks sudhir

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Subject: Re: Moving in Prnayam

 
We had booked a Classic apt and they had mentioned AC but it's not there in the contract. What would we get, any clues anyone?

It's C-8/1201 A.

 

Thanks,

Shibani

On Saturday, 15 December 2012 12:12:36 UTC+5:30, Pulkit wrote:

Yes, I agree with Subhash, The people who have booked their apartments in classic are getting 2 star hitachi 1.5 tonne split AC as mentioned in contract, people in luxury apartment are getting 2 tonne split in living/dining area as mentioned in contract and 1 tonne whirlpool AC in bedroom as contract for all buyers mentions only split AC in bedroom and no brand or tonnage is specified in the agreement.

Yes this is not as per our understanding as it was always mentioned 1.5 ton Hitachi in bedrooms for all luxury apartment but they did not mention that in agreement. If anyone has different contract, please let the group know about it.

 

Regards

 

On Saturday, 15 December 2012 11:59:15 UTC+5:30, Subhash kumar wrote:

The ACs being provided differ depending on your contract.For 3Bedroom apartments,Those who had booked when project was launched have Hitachi marked in their contarct.They are getting 2Tr ACs in their Drawing/Dining.I donot know about the bedrooms.The buyers who came in later on do not have capacities or brand marked in their contracts.They are getting 1.5TR -2star ACs in Drawing/Dining area and 1TR -3star <Whirpool ACs in bed rooms.That's what I got in D3.
Regards
Subhash Kumar
 
 
 

From: pranayam...@googlegroups.com <mailto:pranayam...@googlegroups.com> [mailto:pranayam...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of anil....@pvrcinemas.com <mailto:anil....@pvrcinemas.com>
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I had seen Hitachi AC's cartons lying on the floors at many places (1.5 ton). Someone who had got the possession may confirm 

 

Regards

 

On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Deepak Bajaj <mrdeep...@gmail.com <mailto:mrdeep...@gmail.com> > wrote:
Anybody else got the registration done? We are expecting our letter by 20th or so. Lets see. Another thing I would like to ask to those who opted for luxury option: What ACs are being offered (make and tonnage)? And are they as per your contract and understanding?

 

 

Best Regards

Deepak Bajaj
 

On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 8:41 PM, sachin Kumar <sachi...@hotmail.com <mailto:sachi...@hotmail.com> > wrote:

Although I am yet to receive the Offer of possession but I am planned to shift in Pranayam by feb/march 2013.

Regards
Sachin
C9/601

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Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 03:38:05 -0800

From: mrdeep...@gmail.com <mailto:mrdeep...@gmail.com>

To: pranayam...@googlegroups.com <mailto:pranayam...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Moving in Prnayam

Hi All,

 

This thread is for those who are planning to move into Pranayam after the possession. I urge all to provide details so that we will have a consolidate list and would be a great support to each other.

Name: Deepak Bajaj & Aashima Gandhi

Unit: D3 1507

Expected to move by: 4-6 months after possession

E-Mail: mrdeep...@gmail.com <mailto:mrdeep...@gmail.com>

 

 

Regards

 

Deepak Bajaj
 
 
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[Mukesh Budhiraja]

Dear All,
I am planning to shift in C8/502 but last two months I am fighting for getting the sweepage in bath rooms to be arrested but failed till date,
Please help in in fitting of geysers in kitchen and bathrooms.
if some one has model that fits in current seetting, please let me know.
Please help me for installation of steel door.
Thanks

MUKESH KUMAR BUDHIRAJA
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IOCL R&D CENTRE FARIDABAD
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On Sun, 8/4/13, Davesh Rajput <davesh...@live.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: Moving in Prnayam

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Date: Sunday, August 4, 2013, 9:56 AM

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[Davesh Rajput]

Dear Subhash jee,
 
can u pls share ur contact no.
 
Davesh
c3/602
 

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[Vishal]

Dear Group

  Pls advise on if everyone is paying up the electricity bills and satisfied with the reasons provided by JLL. Pls let me know if the residents are taking this up in any forum with PCL/JLL

Thanks

Vishal

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[Anand Prakash]

Hi All,

I have also not paid electricity bill and for this got mail from Pranayam . 

As I am outside of India so can't able to participate in meetings But What ever Group will decide I will support that.

Surly rates are quite high compare to other societies in Gurgaon. (As I don't have idea about Faridabad).

Please post about meeting decision.

Thanks

-Anand and Neelam 

C11/502

Regards:
Anand

[Raj Dhuru]

I have also not paid the electircity bill. I agree with your views. Presently I am living in Essel Towers, Gurgaon and these charges are very high.

 

Raj Dhuru

D1/901

Cell 9818069673

 

 

[Papia Bhatachaarji]

Hi Friends

We are yet to take possession. Can anyone please upload a copy of the electricity bill.

Regards

Bidyyut

On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Anand Prakash <anand...@gmail.com> wrote: