Even the cowherd boys can fall from Goloka-Vrndavana if the forget Krishna

[Hare Krishna]

THE SECRET BOOK OF
ORIGINS.
QUANTUM PHYSICS OR THE SCIENCE OF
POSSIBILITIES.

UNDERSTANDING THE UNIVERSAL
CREATION.

“The perpetual Kingdom of Radha and Krishna (above in the red lotus
flower and unlimited expansions of Vishnu and Lakshmi in the
surrounding yellow planets) is made up of personalities (marginal)
with eternal devotional bodies, where as the maha-tattva (material
universe) and its impersonal escape, is nothing other than the
rebellious dreams of just a few of those eternal personalities. Such
non-Krishna conscious dreams are contained in outward etheral or
biological vessels (or in an impersonal inactive liberated state) that
both belong to and are part and parcel of the maha-tattva, which is a
dark impermanent cloud where the four-armed expansion of Krishna, the
dreaming Maha-Vishnu and his wife Maya devi resides, as shown above”
Always chant Hare Krishna!” – Pradyumna Swami

Chapter one

The Kingdom of God (Krishna) is an Eternal Personal Active Loving
Devotional Place of unlimited pastimes that is ever lasting and never
aging, the atma-vigraha transcendental body (the soul’s real spiritual
Krishna Conscious self and form) is always engaged in the personal
unlimited varieties of pastimes and relationships serving Krishna -
nitya-siddha means - eternally actively established as ones Krishna
Conscious devotional form. This is what permanence, perpetual and
eternity means – no beginning, no end and never decays or changes yet
at the same time, there are always unlimited transcendental changes
going on within unlimited pastimes that are illimitably active. In
this way, lila-rasa, or the mellows of ones personal pastime with
Krishna, can change in the Spiritual Universe in ways that can only be
understood as one genuinely awakens their ‘old’ and original Krishna
Consciousness, and even then, once established back as their Krishna
Conscious real self or atma-jiva-vigraha body, the way Krishna’s
perpetual Kingdom is forever disclosed may still be inconceivable and
remain a mystery. In other words, even though one has an original
nitya-siddha-atma-vigraha or atma-jiva body, even that active body can
appear in diverse behavioural ways and outward appearance according to
rasa (pastimes with Krishna and His devotees).

Generally nitya-siddha among Vaishnava’s means one never falls to the
conditioned living entity stage, known as the jiva-bhuta non-Krishna
dreaming conscious condition, which is the sub-conscious lower self
(nitya-baddha or eternally conditioned state) that is oblivious to
their full Krishna Conscious atma-vigraha body in Krishna’s perpetual
Kingdom.

The lower conscious self (jiva-bhutah) is always in the nitya-baddha
condition of comatose consciousness that can only actively manifest
within the perishable material universal dream. Therefore, more or
less, their understanding is correct however, even though the nitya-
siddha-atma-vigraha bodies never fall down from Krishna’s Personal
Kingdom, the introverted dreaming conscious state ‘within’ which is
called the nitya-baddha-jiva-bhutah, can be generated as consciousness
from ones real self or nitya-siddha-atma-vigraha bodily form.

Even though ones original body cannot fall down, it is possible one
can enter a trance like consciousness and forget that unique form and
consciously fall to the nitya-baddha eternally conditioned state. This
is similar to forgetting the biological body while sleeping and
dreaming. In simple terms, the atma-vigraha body, or higher conscious
awareness in the form of ones real bodily form serving Krishna in the
Kingdom of God, is eternally liberated (nitya-siddha) and can never
fall down, where as the lower conscious self, manifested as a multiple
dreaming bodily identities and forms within the material universe or
maha-tattva, is eternally conditioned (nitya-baddha) and is always in
that state.

A crude example of understanding the parodox of the eternal liberated
state (nitya-siddha) and the eternally conditioned state (nitya-
baddha) similtaniously existing at the same time, is within a large
building the basement is always at the bottom and the penthouse suite
is always at the top. When one is in the penthouse, that does not mean
the basement does not exist, it is always there at the bottom of the
building. In the same way, both the nitya-baddha and nitya-siddha
condition exists eternally and at the same time, it just depends on
which condition of consciousness one is in. The nitya-siddha-atma-
vigraha condition is one’s real Krishna conscious bodily form, while
the nitya-baddha condition is illusion and the concoctions of non-
Krishna conscious desires.

This is not difficult to understand if you chant the Hare Krishna Maha-
mantra, the recommended sacrifice for this age of Kali-yuga. The
various Vedic texts tell us that the Kingdom of Krishna is an eternal
active place of unlimited pastimes where nothing perishes. Everything
in Krishna’s Abode is always eternally there because of the perpetual
and imperishable nature of His Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha Spiritual
Sky or Abode. This also means all of us have an eternal form and
relationship that is always with Krishna in His everlasting Abode,
that is forever there and has always been there even though from time
to time, we are consciously unaware of this everlasting reality due to
our forgetfulness and fantasies that create our dreaming secondary
consciousness that transmits one to the material universe or nitya-
baddha condition of existence.

In a simple way of trying to understand this, all of us dream when we
sleep, similarly just like those dreams one has in their biological
body, the non-Krishna Conscious illusionary dreams and thoughts
manifest a separate dreaming version of the self. A crude example of
this is when one is awake in their biological body, or when that body
is asleep and one is dreaming, it is the same ‘self’ existing on two
completely different levels of consciousness, one as the biological
body, the other as dreamed up fantasies that appear real while they
are dreaming. In a similar way, ones dreams or thoughts create a
separate reality that is real but temporary (unlike the illusionary
unreal dreams one has while their biological body is sleeping) and
only exists within the maha-tattva when one is unaware of their real
original identity and form (The atma-vigraha Krishna Conscious body).

This separate reality or lower conscious self that is existent but
perishable is called the jiva-bhutah non-Krishna conscious active
condition of awareness, that is transferred and exists as individual
consciousness within the impermanent realms of the material universal
dream under the jurisdiction of Krishna in His Mahan-Vishnu form. This
jiva-bhutah state of consciousness can again further transform to the
jiva-nikaya inactive condition of awareness, also within the theatre
of Maha-Vishnu’s material illusionary universe or apparition, which is
a dark cloud of ‘the dreaming’ that is in one corner of Krishna’s
Personal Spiritual Creation or Brahmajyoti. This Brahmajyoti/Brahman
is effulgence full of unlimited individual devotees as their real body
serving on unlimited Spiritual Planets, called Vishnulokas that
surrounds/emanates from the body of the Supreme Lord in His Personal
Abode called Goloka-Vrndavana Planet.

Insert Painting of a Cowherd boy who turns his back on KRISHNA only
for a moment. The inattentive thoughts of the cowherd boy devotee as
his nitya-siddha eternally liberated body makes him not only forget
Krishna, but also forget his cowherd boy perpetual nitya-siddha-atma-
jiva-vigraha body he serves Krishna as. Like in a conscious trance or
dream of amnesia, the non-Krishna desires force one to follow the
directions of those thoughts as the jiva-bhutah consciousness and
transforms into the dreaming illusion trapped in ethereal and
biological bodies within material existence and experience repeated
birth, disease, old age and death (the nitya-baddha eternally
conditioned conscious state).

Even though similar to the dreams one has in their biological body,
the dreams transmitted by ones real bodily self (atma-vigraha) are
real because the maha-tattva is a real and takes up a quarter of the
Spiritual Sky or Brahmajyoti. The difference between the Vaikuntha’s
and the maha-tattva is the Vaikuntha’s are imperishable while the maha-
tattva, except for Maha-Vishnu and His plenary expansions, are
perishable and everything their goes through a cycle of creation and
annihation or decay and re-construction.

Also within the maha-tattva exists a phenomena left over from the
presents of the embodied jiva-bhutah consciousness when enthralled in
transitory decomposing biological vessels. These fossilized remains,
or universes of death, are Krishna’s inferior energys that make up the
impermamant suns, moons, solar systems, galaxies and universes within
the maha-tattva. In contrast, within the Goloka-Vrndavan/Vaikuntha
realm, everything is living and has eternal form, therefore Krishna’s
inferior energies (lifeless matter) does not and cannot exist there in
Goloka-Vrndavan/Vaikuntha. This understanding of the ‘dreaming’ as
real is a crucial realization because of the Mayavadi belief it is all
illusion. The Vaisnava’s say it is real, but temporary and that’s why
the material universe is an illusion. In other words, in a million
years from now, Melbourne or Sydney will seem as if it never existed.
This is the difference between ones dreams in their biological body
and the over all dreaming jiva-bhutah consciousness. The problem is,
due to the power of Maya Devi’s sakti, they both seem as real as each
other.

The other three quarters of the Spiritual Sky, unlike the maha-tattva,
never decays and is a perpetual real place of unlimited relationships
with the two-armed form of Krishna on His central Goloka-Vrndavana
planet, or the four-armed Lord Vishnu on the surrounding Vishnuloka
Planets (also there are more names of Vishnu or God than there are
grains of sand on all the beaches on all the planets within all the
universe’s that exist within the Maha-tattva).

The Impersonalist yogis, jnani’s or Impersonalist philosophers are
known as Mayavadi’s, they see the universe as unreal and a dreaming
illusion. Their understanding is incorrect. The Vaishnava’s see the
material dream in a completely different way than the Mayavadi’s, who
offensively believes Krishna is also part of their illusionary dream.
They cannot understand there are two different forms of reality, ones
real while the other is also real, but temporary.

The bona fide eternal aspect of Krishna’s Personal creation is the
Spiritual Sky or Brahmajyoti where Krishna’s marginal nitya-siddha-
atma-vigraha devotees serve in Goloka-Vrndavana and the Vaikuntha
planets.

Also the within the Spiritual Sky or Brahmajyoti exists a dark cloud
known as the maha-tattva (material universes), this place is real but
subject to decay and is therefore transitory.

In this book the word ‘dream’ is used to describe the secondary fallen
non-Krishna conscious condition of the atma-jiva-vigraha when
transmitted as consciousness (jiva-bhutah) to the maha-tattva.

Even on the impermanent heavenly planets within the maha-tattva, ones
thoughts and dreams are as real as ones actions however, on our middle
earthly planet, it is not like that due to the gross biological
containment, which is a further layer of energy, generated by the jiva-
bhutah consciousness within the maha-tattva, that covers the ethereal
(subtle body) vessel and suppresses ones ability to manifest thoughts
or dreams as actions. The subtle body is the original incasement of
the jiva-bhutah ‘dreaming’ consciousness when first entering the maha-
tattva or material universe. This ethereal body only subsists within
the heavenly and lower planetary systems (Explained in more detail on
page ?) within the maha-tattva. Both bodies are considered shekels
covering the jiva-bhutah consciousness, which is originally
transmitted from ones innovative position and individual body within
Krishna Lila (on the perpetual Spiritual planets)

In this way of thinking, the material universe is the invented figment
of the non-Krishna Conscious self that is transmitted as thoughts of
selfish dreams to the maha-tattva (inferior energies or the place
where lifeless matter exists) when one’s consciousness is no longer
Krishna Conscious, or aware of their own Krishna Conscious body.

Although only similar to one’s dreaming creations while the biological
body is sleeping, the jiva-bhutah phantasm becomes their new self,
transmitted as a dreaming hallucination to that dark cloud in the
Spiritual sky that is under the jurisdiction of the dreaming Maha-
Vishnu. This place within one corner of the Spiritual Sky or
Brahmajyoti is for those who deny their original Krishna Conscious
bodily self and live within their own dream creations. In this
eternally condition state (nitya-baddha), one is unable to distinguish
reality from illusion due to being unable to remember their real
perpetual bodily origins in the dynamic blissful active Krishna
Conscious service in Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha Kingdom. This is how
forgetfulness of Krishna transports one consciously (not one’s
perpetual body) into the impermanent ‘dream’ universe managed not
directly by Krishna, but by Maha-Vishnu who is an expansion of
Balarama, the Brother of Krishna (the first plenary expansion of
Krishna). In this way Maha-Vishnu’s dreams within the maha-tattva are
simultaneously the dreams originating from the atma-jiva-vigraha
bodies manifesting as their lower conscious self, while forgetful of
Krishna and their perpetual atma-jiva-vigraha body.

It is important to understand the fact that ones original body or self
never leaves Krishna’s ceaseless Abode, the only way to enter the maha-
tattva where Maha-Vishnu is dreaming-up the material manifestation, is
through ones own non-Krishna conscious dreams or thoughts. Such
thoughts project one as their lower non-Krishna conscious self-known
as the jiva-bhutah and jiva-nikaya as already explained. INSERT

Nothing just happens by chance in our material impermanent universe
(maha-tattva); everything is constructed and built for the expressions
of transmitted consciousness. The maha-tattva or material universe
already has a blue print directory that will meet the requirements of
anything the jiva-bhutaha’s can imagine, dream-up or think of. If they
can imagine a certain situation, then it is possible. That is why
there are billions of material universes within the maha-tattva. It
therefore seems it is due to the ‘out of control imagination of some
jiva-bhutaha’s’ (only a minority dare come to the material universes)
that cause the material universe to be extremely variegated and vast
however, everything is already known by Maha-Vishnu. The jiva
bhutaha’s are simply chasing their desires, which are simultaneously
the script or blue print already mapped out by Maha-Vishnu. He is the
seer of past, present and future.

Maha-Vishnu is an expansion of Lord Balarama, Maha-Vishnu’s duty and
obligation is to fulfil the desires of ones lower-self that only
exists when one denies their Krishna Conscious atma-jiva-vigraha body
in Goloka-Vrndavan/Vaikuntha. Maha-Vishnu makes possible for the
‘thoughts, imaginings, desires and dreams’ of ones lower self to be
fulfilled into a reality (real but fading) that is only possible
within the maha-tattva. It is only there the rebellious souls (jiva-
bhutah’s) can carve out their own destiny within the material
universe, which is simultaneously the dream of Maha-Vishnu.

In this way ones lower self (jiva-bhutah consciousness, life force or
soul) seeks out happiness by trying many different ethereal or
biological bodily garments on, only for the outer biological covering
of the ethereal container to eventually decay and become part of the
lifeless (Krishna’s inferior energies) material universe.

Srimad Bhagavatam 11.22.56: -

For one who is meditating on sense gratification, material life,
although lacking factual existence, does not go away, just as the
unpleasant experiences of a dream do not.

Srila Prabhupada: - ‘One may object that if Lord Krishna insists that
material life is false, then why should one endeavour to stop it? The
Lord therefore explains here that although not factual, material life
stubbornly continues for one addicted to sense gratification, just as
a frightening dream continues for one merged in sleep. The word
avidyamana, "not existing," means that material life is based on
mental concoction, in which one thinks, "I am a man," "I am a woman,"
"I am a doctor," "I am a senator," "I am a street sweeper" and so on.
A conditioned soul (jiva-bhutah) enthusiastically performs his
activities based on the imaginary identification with the biological
body. Thus although the jiva-bhutah exists and the biological body
exists, the false identification with the biological body does not
exist. Material life, based on a false idea, has no factual existence.

After one awakens from a dream, the dim reflection of the dream may
linger in one's memory. Similarly, one engaging in the devotional
service of the Lord may be troubled sometimes by the dim reflection of
sinful life. One should therefore become strong in Krishna
consciousness by hearing the Lord's instructions to Śrī Uddhava.

Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 11.22.57

Therefore, O Uddhava, do not try to enjoy sense gratification with the
material senses. See how illusion based on material dualities prevents
one from realizing the self.

Srila Prabhupada: - Everything that exists is the potency and property
of the Supreme Lord and meant to be used in His loving service. Seeing
material objects as separate from the Lord and thus meant to be
possessed and enjoyed by oneself is called vaikalpikam bhramam, the
illusion of material duality. When selecting one's personal object of
enjoyment, such as food, clothing, residence or vehicle, one considers
the relative quality of the object to be acquired. Consequently, in
material life one is in constant anxiety, trying to acquire the most
excellent sense gratification for one's personal pleasure. If one
realizes everything as the property of the Lord, however, he will see
everything as meant for the Lord's pleasure. He will feel no personal
anxiety, because he is satisfied simply to be engaged in the Lord's
loving service. It is not possible to exploit the property of the Lord
and at the same time advance in self-realization. End of quotes

When the jiva-bhutah dream conscious becomes manifest due to
forgetfulness of Krishna, Krishna also accompanies the dreaming
consciousness, not in His original Atma-Vigraha Form who resides in
Goloka-Vrndavana, but in His Maha-Vishnu expansion who is also
dreaming.

In the Vedas there is clear information that the original person in
each of the billions upon billions of inconsequential material
universes is Brahma, some have four heads others have ten heads while
others may have twenty heads etc. Each of the Brahma’s ethereal body
or outward ‘lease a costume’ originates from an equal number of
Garbhodakasayi Vishnu’s body within each of those billions upon
billions of globes originating from the pours of Maha-Vishnu. All this
is part of His dream within the infinite (yet finite because of its
transitory nature) maha-tattva (real but subject to decay), as all
ready explained.

The third expansion of Maha-Vishnu is Karanadakasayi Vishnu, an
expansion of Garbhodakasayi Vishnu, who is also known as the Paramatma
whom accompanies all jiva-bhutaha’s (within their heart) entering the
maha-tattva from the surrounding perpetual Spiritual Sky as
transmitted consciousnesses. Such dreaming consciousness originates
from perpetual atma-jiva-vigraha body that is eternally Krishna
Conscious yet paradoxically in a dreaming state of forgetfulness.

Maha Vishnu, within the maha-tattva or dark cloud in one corner of the
Spiritual Sky, is an expansion of infinite number of Vishnu’s in the
Vaikuntha’s who each have their own Vishnuloka planet and each have a
particular name like Narayana, Vasudeva, Sankarshana, Pradyumna and
Aniruddha etc. All of them are expansions of the original God or
Supreme Personality Sri Krishna Caitanya who resides in His Goloka-
Vrndavana Planet that is the centre of all
creation.

The picture above is of Sri Radha and Krishna sitting on a pink lotus
in the Goloka-Vrndavana Planet, far beyond the insignificant mundane
material creation (maha-tattva) and past the viraj or Causal Ocean,
which is outside the influence of the sleeping Maha-Vishnu, yet still
within the vicinity of the maha-tattva, yet out of reach of the
Vaikuntha Lokas.

Krishna’s Perpetual two armed Form/Body is therefore always in Goloka-
Vrndavana/Vaikuntha and so are His inconsequential or marginal nitya-
siddha-atma-vigraha servants. It is important to try and understand
here, that Krishna’s eternal servants never fall down in their eternal
nitya-siddha body, however they can ‘consciously’ forget that body
(their real personal form and identity). The only way to never fall
down ‘consciously’ in a dream state, is to always serve Krishna and
His devotees and never ever forget Him or them.

Even if one does turn their back on Krishna, they only fall down in a
conscious dream state and never as the perpetual body they really are
and who they always will be.

Many in some Vaishnava sects like the Gaudiya Math have Mayavadi
tendencies and cannot understand the true origins of the self as ones
eternal nitya-siddha-svarupa-atma-sat-cit-ananda-vigraha Krishna
Conscious body. The Impersonalist Jains and Buddhists also foolishly
believe the origin of the ‘self’ is from the Impersonal Brahmajyoti
originating as some nonsense spark of living impersonal light.

A pure living entity in his original spiritual consciousness (nitya-
siddha-svarupa-atma-jiva-sat-cit-anandha-vigraha body) is fully aware
of his constitutional position as an eternal servitor of the Lord. All
atma-vigraha’s (souls) who are situated in such pure consciousness are
eternally liberated and perpetuall establishe meaning such
transcendental bodies can never fall down. The atma-vigraha devotee’s
therefore, eternally live in bliss, knowledge and service in the
various Vaikuntha planets in the spiritual sky. When the material
creation is manifested, it is not meant for them, in fact it is not
meant for any of the atma-jiva-vigraha devotee’s. The eternally
liberated souls are called nitya-muktas, and they have nothing to do
with the material creation unless they forget Krishna. The maha-tattva
exists for those who forget their relationship with Krishna.

>From Vedic scriptures it is understood that every now and then even
Brahma and Indra fall down, but a devotee in the transcendental abode
of the Lord never falls as long as he never forgets Krishna.

The conclusion is that no one in their eternal original bodily form
falls from the spiritual world, or Goloka-Vrndavan/Vaikuntha planets,
for they are eternal abodes. Fall down is only possible when one
forgets Krishna and it is only a conscious fall down as it is
impossible to fall down as ones eternal bodily self due to the
perpetual nature of the Vaikunthas. Many in the Gaudiya Math cannot
understand this fact and continue to foolishly argue that one
originates from the Brahmajyoti; such Mayavadi philosophy must be
avoided at all costs.

This ordinary living being is of two kinds - nitya-baddha or nitya-
mukta. The nitya-mukta state of consciousness is simply the more
advance state of the nitya-baddha fallen condition due to ones
rekindling of their Krishna Consciousness. As ones Krishna
Consciousness becomes more refined, the jiva-bhutah consciousness
leaves the nitya-baddha conditions and progresses to the nitya-mukta
stage that eventually re-establishes ones consciousness back as its
nitya-siddha-atma-jiva-sat-cit-ananda-vigraha original bodily self.
The nitya-baddha conscious state is eternally conditioned and the
other nitya-mukti condition is eternally liberated as ones
conscousness leaves the maha-tattva and remembers its original body
and service to Krishna in Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha. The eternally
liberated state of the living being is ones original perpetual Krishna
Conscious body that are in the Vaikuntha jagat, the spiritual world,
and one can never fall into the material world as those bodies. That
is not possible. However one can consciously fall away from their real
body as a projected outward appearance of consciousness, which is the
nitya-baddha consciousness condition. Such consciousness is only
activated when one forgets Krishna.

It is therefore extremely important to understand here ones ‘fall from
grace’ or entry into the maha-tattva is never as a physical fall down
in ones original atma-jiva-vigraha body, but rather, a conscious fall
down due to forgetfulness, inattentiveness or jealousy. It is like
wondering off in a daydream (having non-Krishna Conscious thoughts)
while playing sport and being so absorbed in that daydream, one forget
their own body and the sport one is having with Krishna. Only in this
way can ones consciousness fall down and become overwhelmed with self-
importance and envy of Krishna.

As previously emphasized, one never falls away from Krishna’s
association in their original atma-vigraha bodily form, but in a
dreaming (non Krishna Conscious thinking) illusionary consciousness
that is real, but infected with impermanence. In this way one is
transmitted in that format (non-Krishna conscious thought) to the dark
cloud of impermanence in one corner of the Spiritual Sky called the
maha-tattva. Ones transmitted consciousness is called the jiva-bhutah
as already explained.

The Maha-tattva cloud is the only place in the Spiritual Sky or
Brahmajyoti where such flickering non-Krishna Conscious thoughts can
exist. Upon entering this phenomenon of the maha-tattva, that is
always pulsating in and out of reality or existing for a time then
fading to a point where it seems it never was, can not exist in the
all alive, fully conscious, always personally active Vaikuntha’s.

After ones consciousness falls to being only aware of the transmitted
jiva-bhutah lower self, forgetting completely their real self or atma-
jiva-vigraha body from whence all thoughts are generated from, one is
placed in ethereal/biological posts or vessels that meet or match the
requirements of their non-Krishna conscious thoughts. These vessels or
containers are eternally part and parcels of the material universe or
maha-tattva. Such vessels or bodies are just like the garments in a
fancy dress shop that are constantly rented out (on loan) to the
visiting transmitted consciousness that dare to enter the domain of
mostly non-Krishna conscious thoughts within the maha-tattva.

The ethereal and biological costumes (bodies) always belong to the
rental agent, Maha-Vishnu and His wife Maya Devi. Such costumes follow
His script or design that simultaneously meets the desires and
requirements of each of the jiva-bhutah consciousnesses visiting from
their original source and place in the perpetual Spiritual Sky,
outside the maha-tattva. In this way, no ethereal body or biological
body ever belongs to the visiting jiva-bhutah; they are simply a
costume on loan so one can travel around within the Maha-tattva or
dreams of Maha-Vishnu. In fact, there are an unlimited number of
visiting jiva-bhutah’s who have ‘hired’ such ‘costumes’ in a past
material manifestation and others will continue to rent them in future
one. Everything within the maha-tattva has already happened and will
continue to repeat itself in the future because it is governed by
time, impermanence, past, present and future. On the other hand, the
goloka-Vrndavan/Vaikuntha realm outside/surrounding the maha-tattva is
a perpetual place where there is no past, present or future and
nothing perishes. This means there are no past and no future because
only the present eternally exists there. Trying to understand this
through the medium of our ethereal vessel (subtle body) or biological
body is not possible because such containments belong to the maha-
tattva or material energy which is governed by impermanence, past,
present and future. As long as we think we are the ethereal and
biological vehicles then such understanding remains inconceivable.

This is another reason why ethereal and biological vessels are
impersonal and are simply acting like a puppet on a string, under the
control of the Personalities managing the maha-tattva (Maha-Vishnu and
His expansions). All ethereal and biological bodies do not represent
who one really is in any way!! It is simple a costume that takes one
from A to B, or like a taxi that is eternally bringing different
people to their desired destination. The taxi is always the same while
the passenger’s are always different. By the same token, all ethereal
and biological vessels within the maha-tattva are continuously being
used as a means of transportation for the visiting jiva-bhutah’s to
travel through in order to reach their desired destination.
Understanding this is extremely rare in our primitive 21st century
understanding of Spirituality and Vaisnavism. Many so-called
Vaishnava’s are polluted by Mayavadi philosophy because of their
belief that the origin of their existence is from the Impersonal
Brahmajyoti.

In line with the previously discussed understanding of the pre-
arranged goings on within the maha-tattva, from the bigger picture,
ones free will is eventually buried by karma and forced to take
ethereal bodies in heaven or hell as well as a variety of biological
bodies (8,400,000 of them) according to ones past actions rather than
choices. If one is forced to seize a particular container, then it’s
meant to happen and is already part of a bigger plan where each jiva-
bhutah consciousness follows the already mapped out blue print or
pathway previously carved out for themselves and simultaneously
prearranged by Maha-Vishnu, whom has built the almost holideck virtual-
reality material universe for all visiting jiva-bhutah’s in the first
place. Everything is already there in the maha-tattva provided by Maha-
Vishnu. In this way, the jiva-bhutah consciousness just follows a
particular pathway that is already in place and part of the already
constructed maha-tattva.

Part of this plan is, if sees a problem, then one can certainty to
correct it, they can therefore change and repair the problem if a
dilemma arrises and the endeavour is based on Knowledge. Just like the
mismanagement that went on in ISKCON during the pioneering years of
the 1970s, 80s, 90s and well into the 21st and how leadership during
those years where too immature, proud and self righteous to admit they
did not know how to handle certain situations even when they new a
serious problem existed. In some cases the forceful threatening
dictatorial style of leadership (follow me or your going to hell!!)
was exploitation and abuse that only made many devotees insecure, anti-
social and worse off. Their arrogant claim was: -

‘We were sincere and had good intentions, as some needed to be forced
with emotional and psychological abuse to surrender!!’

There is a saying for such gibberish Sannyasi’s, GBC men, Temple
Presidents and guru’s in ISKCON ‘who claim in their defence ‘we only
tried to help him or her’

‘The pathway to Hell is often travelled with good intention’.

In this way, even though everything is previously arranged, still
there is always room for change and learn from past mistakes in a
mature way, this is also part of Maha-Vishnu’s potency and
inconceivability.

In regards to this, the present version of ISKCON is attempting to
mature with its challenge to correct all past blunders and mistakes by
acknowledging they did not having the insight or realizations to deal
with the emotional, psychological and sexual abuse of women and
children in the 70s, 80 and 90s, as well as admitting to the
psychological and emotional abuse of devotees, designed to break their
spirit (self-esteem) and make them fully dependant on them (yes men).
ISKCON still has a long, long way to go before they can claim they are
correctly representing Lord Chaitanya’s Mercy in a pure, humble,
caring, responsible and mature way

There is a way of seeing past, present and future. And that is by
being no longer within the dreams of Maha-Vishnu, both Personalists
(devotees of Krishna) and Impersonalists yogis can see this knowledge
however, the Impersonalist fall back down into the dreams of Maha-
Vishnu and again become covered with by an ethereal and eventually a
biological body governed by time and forget what they have seen (every
ethereal and biological vessels past present and future). In this
fashion, they enter a body they already know the out come of however,
because of the influence of time, ethereal, biological, mind, false
ego, that are always permanent fixtures of the maha-tattva, they
simply forget. Krishna showed all this to Arjuna who become fearful
because he could see all the past, present and future due to being
outside of the realm of the dreams of Maha-Vishnu. He saw the
Universal form of Maha-Vishnu laying down and sleeping and also saw
all the vast terrific and horrific dreams He is having – Arjuna was
terrified.

Technically all of this is part of the often-inconceivable workings of
the highly sophisticated unfolding blueprint or universal dream of
Maha-Vishnu. Everything is said to be an illusion however, everything
is real but temporary, and that’s the real meaning of this
understanding of illusion. In this manner, even in our jiva-bhutah
expanded or transmitted consciousness, we are responsible and
controlled by the mysterious workings of Karma – unless Krishna
intervenes, after all, it is His creation and He is not obliged to
follow any rule or regulations – He can do what ever He wants that is
inconceivable and beyond our understanding, even when we are our full
conscious atma-vigraha Krishna Conscious body.

Krishna, on the other hand, can never fall or forget, yet does expand
Himself as a dreaming incarnation, not only to create ‘the dreaming’
by accompanying His marginal servants while in their forgetful
dreaming lower conscious self or expansion, but also to provide all
the facilities they need so they can pursue their non-Krishna
conscious desires.

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The marginal or insignificant (small in the presents of Krishna)
personalities can only consciously fall down and enter ‘the dreaming’
that takes up one quater of the Spiritual Sky or Brahmajoyti which is
seen by Vaishnava’s as real, but a temporary dark cloud in one corner
of the all-pervasive living personified Brahmajyoti. As previously
explained, this corner of the Brahmajyoti, or the quarter of the
Spiritual Sky, is called the maha-tattva which is the abode of ‘the
dreaming’ Maha-Vishnu and His wife Maya Devi. Through the pours on
Maha-Vishnu’s skin, the trillians of material universes are created,
each with a Garbhodakasayi Vishnu and a Brahma, as He breathes out and
annihilated as He breathes in. Within each of the unlimited material
universes, Balarama, in His Maha-Vishnu form, further expands Himself
as Garbhodakasayi Vishnu, Shiva and the jiva-bhutah demigods headed by
Brahma (33, 000,000 of them in our universe alone whom He empowers
with a certain management role wihin this one material universe) who
act like ministers with their portfolios in a Government under the
direction of the Prim-Minster or President. They help facilitate,
maintain and build the material manifestation. Lord Shiva’s duty is to
also annihilate it when the time comes for the universe to be
withdrawn back into the bodily pours of Maha-Vishnu. Maha-Vishnu is
always there in the maha-tattva ‘causal waters’ ‘dreaming-up’ an
infinite number of finite material universes.

Garbhodakasayi Vishnu and His wife Luxmi and Brahma
Maha-Vishnu therefore manages ‘the dreaming nitya-baddha condition’
and fulfils the dreaming mistaken desires of the jiva-bhutah’s lower-
self non-Krishna conscious circumstances as they live out their
imaginings in total denial or memory of their original atma-vigraha
body. He provides the ethereal and biological bodies that allow the
jiva-bhutaha’s to get around in during their stay within the dreams of
Maha-Vishnu. One cannot enter the dreams of Maha-Vishnu unless they
are provided with a suitable vehical, vessel or body that are provided
by Maha-Vishnu and exist within the His laws of His impermanent
creation within the maha-tattva.

If the marginal individual personalities scope of influence (sakti)
did not have the ability to choose by between their higher self
Krishna conscious bodily form and their lower self independent non-
Krishna conscious creations in the expressions of illusionary dreams,
that are real on this level of consciousness but temporary, then there
can be no question of love – this is why the atma-vigraha’s (ones real
devotional bodily self) have a lower conscious dreaming expansion of
the self manifested as the dreaming jiva-bhutah/jiva-nikaya sub-
conscious state that is only activated when one is not serving
Krishna.

Another way of understanding this is where there is light (Krishna
consciousness), there is no darkness (material consciousness and
Impersonalism) and where there is darkness, there is no light. This is
the theme on Srila Prabhupada’s Back To Godhead Magazine cover

The Sanskrit word jiva-sakti means the influence of the atma-jiva or
atma-vigraha while established in ones higher conscious self that
manifests as selfless devotional service and also means the attribute
or influence the individual jiva-bhuttah/jiva-nikaya or lower
conscious self has within the material universe.

Because the atma-vigraha devotee’s are separate individual from
Krishna, jiva-sakti refers to that separate identity, individuality
and forms as marginal. This is because living entity or atma-vigraha
devotee’s constitution is a secondary independent entity from Krishna
that is fully dependant of Krishna regardless of their position in
reality (Vaikuntha) or illusion (maha-tattva).

What is marginal?

It is obvious that the nitya-siddha-atma-vigraha body is the higher
self or marginal condition and the nitya-bhadda-jiva-bhutah
consciousness is the lower self or marginal dreaming manifestation.
This is explained in detail on page 146.

The word sakti means power, attribute, potency, energy, influence,
control, clout, mussel, weapondary, force, vigour, liveliness,
strength, effectiveness and aura of the jiva-atma-vigraha real self in
the Goloka-Vrndavana Spiritual Sky or the jiva-bhutah conscious self
trapped dreaming within the universe where Maha-Vishnu is also
dreaming.

As already mentioned, Krishna also has a dreaming expansion of Himself
called Maha-Vishnu whose dreams are the material universal creation
and the dreams of the jiva-bhutah transmitted consciousness. In this
way, whether one is aware of it or not, Krishna is always the only
provider of everything even in their dreams because He is the cause of
all causes. Krishna does not however interfere with the dreaming jiva-
bhutah’s consciousness as they create their destiny within the
material universe. Krishna more or less says, if you want to do your
own thing, then you are responsible not Me, don’t blame Me. Those who
do not understand karma and reincarnation cannot not comprehend that
is ones own previous actions in a previous life that determines ones
suffering and enjoyment within the material universe. Nothing happens
by luck or chance.

The duty of Krishna’s dreaming Maha-Vishnu expansion is to provide the
environmental conditions to assist their desires that exist under the
strict laws of karma. Krishna never forces anyone to remember their
real identity or body, that choice is always yours. You can wake up as
ones real self in your original rasa (pastime with Krishna) or you can
forget it for almost an eternity and be content living out your own
desires and dreams in the material universe constantly experiencing
birth, disease, old age, death and rebirth. By building your dreams,
they carve your illusionary existence through many millions of life
times within the material maha-tattva that is facilitated and provided
by Maha-Vishnu. His dreams are your dreams.

As already mentioned, the atma-vigraha devotee’s or the supplementary
personified individual potency or energy of Krishna as their original
bodily forms, have a tendency to forget Krishna from time to time and
project a lower dreaming consciousness in defiance of their real
devotional atma-vigraha body. This ‘lower self’ transmits them to the
impermanent ethereal, biological and material manifestation. Krishna
also has a dreaming expansion of Himself that is unlike the
consciousness of the insignificant atma-vigraha devotees. This is like
comparing the sunrays (marginal living entities or atma-vigraha
bodies) to the sun (Krishna). Even though Maha-Vishnu is dreaming, He
is simultaneously fully awake as the four-armed Vishnu in Vaikuntha
and His original two armed, Lord Krishna in Goloka-Vrndavana. The
individual inconsequential atma-vigraha devotee’s are incapable of
doing this, although nothing is impossible as this is Krishna’s
creation, He makes the rules and He can change them when He feels fit.
It is said that that the great Vaishnava devotee Naradha Muni travels
also within the dreams of Maha-Vishnu in His original atma-vigraha
body. Krishna is the cause of all causes and His unlimited expansions
and inner circle devotees are unaffected by this change.

Krishna facilitates, creates and accompanies the fallen transmitted
jiva-bhutah conscious to its desired dreaming destinations within the
material universe. This duty is performed by Maha-Vishnu, whose dreams
are simultaneously the transmitted jiva-bhutah’s dreams. Only when one
is free from their own dreaming consciousness within the material
dream (yet still unaware of their real Krishna Conscious bodily
identity) can they exist out-side the realm of Maha-Vishnu’s dreams,
but still dreaming (in a dreamless inactive state) within the dominion
of the causal ocean where the Brahma-sayujya or Impersonal Brahmajoyti
exists. The jiva-bhutah’s transformation into the dormant jiva-
nikaya’s individual consciousness that merges within the Brahma-
sayujya (Impersonal Brahmajyoti), can only happed when one is fed up
attempting to enjoy within with the transitory frustrating ethereal
and biological bodies within the always decaying material existence
(inferior energy).

Maha-Vishnu’s duties include facilitating the dreaming lower forgetful
consciousness of the atma-vigraha’s and directing them to their
desired destination amongst the billions upon Billions of material
universes (In both sub-space and secular space) that are constructed
by His various representatives and demi-gods for the jiva-bhutah
transmitted dreaming consciousness. The demi-gods function is to
fulfil the material desires (dreams) of those who turn their back on
Krishna where one simultaneously forgets their real perpetual bodily
form they serve Krishna as. Maha-tattva also hosts Krishna’s pastimes
and pure devotees when He appears for Lila duty within the maha-
tattva.

Within the maha-tattva there are two basic realities

Maha-Vishnu’s obligation, and the role of the demigods under His
jurisdiction within the maha-tattva or material manifestation, is
often unpleasant due to the non-Krishna conscious desires or thoughts
of those who have ‘consciously separated, spilt or divided’ from their
real jiva-atma-vigraha self. This partition of consciousness means
they are no longer aware of their Krishna conscious original body
because they have opted to create their own existence in defiance of
Krishna. In this way, ones lower non-Krishna conscious state goes
through a transformation that places it within the ‘dream universe’ of
Maha-Vishnu, where He and His representative demigods facilitate or
build the ethereal, biological and material condition that meet the
requirements of the jiva-bhutah transmitted dreaming conscious
desires.

The Vishnuloka planets that are eternally maintained by the Supreme
Personality of Godhead Krishna in His Vishnu form surround the centre
of the universal Creation, which is the topmost Spiritual Planet,
Goloka-Vrndavana or Krishnaloka. Krishna’s Personal universe is also
known as the Personal Brahmajyoti, or just Brahmajyoti, which fills
all space in every direction however; there is also a secondary
universe that technically also has no beginning or end called the maha-
tattva. The Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha universe is real, unchanging
and timeless; the secondary universe on the other hand, is a place
where ones lower dreaming consciousness temporarily resides (not as
there perpetual body), but as a protracted consciousness radiated from
their full consciousness or body when they forget Krishna’s
interminable abode (like wondering off into a dream while ones
biological sleeping body has not moved from the bed), as already
explained and will always need further clarification because of our
conditioned consciousness that makes us foolishly believe we are these
biological bodily containers.

This secondary shadowy universe, also in the Brahmajyoti, is a real
reality but temporary phenomena controlled by time, forgetfulness,
envy, jealously, lust, anger, greed, the hunger for power and to be
worshiped like Krishna, impermanence, flickering enjoyment, arrogance,
selfishness, self righteousness, suffering, birth, disease, old age
and death. This inferior (where lifeless matter exists) universal
phenomenon is where the dreaming Maha-Vishnu resides who accommodates
ones dreaming lower conscious dreaming self-illusions. He’s abode is
an extension of Krishna’s Personal Brahmajyoti/Brahman effulgence
transformed from the real reality of individual personalities serving
Krishna, to the same individual personalities in their non-Krishna
lower conscious illusion or dream. Like switching the light on there
can be no darkness, on the other hand as soon as you switch the light
out, that same space becomes darkness. In the same way this is how the
personal Brahmajyoti and the Impersonal Brahmajyoti exist in the same
space. It’s all bases on ones conscious awareness.

The maha-tattva is the place in creation created for those who do not
want to be with Krishna. Therefore, their imagination takes them to
that provisional abode Krishna has created for them that is also
naturally the Brahmajyoti yet in its darkened state that appears like
a dark cloud in the Spiritual Sky. The trance like dreaming
consciousness of those personalities who choose to cross over into the
detached temporary universe of the dreaming, existing as a dark cloud
in one corner of the Brahmajyoti, always have that choice or
independence to serve Krishna or forget Him. In this way, the dark
cloud is real but temporary and exists in the Brahmajyoti side by side
with the surrounding Vaikuntha planets, yet those souls (transferred
consciousness) trapped in the dark cloud are unable to realize or
acknowledge the existence of Vaikuntha or their original atma-jiva
bodily form due to their non-Krishna conscious Impersonal nature.

The maha-tattva is real yet is called an illusion or dream because of
its temporary nature; where as reality (the Vaikunthas) is permanent,
imperishable, and always actively alive in the service of Krishna and
never fades.

The dark cloud that takes up a quarter of the Brahmajyoti on the other
hand, is real but impermanent, perishable and always fades in and out
of existence like a mirage in the desert. The dark cloud or maha-
tattva (the material manifestation) nonetheless, is still part of the
Brahmajyoti, yet is already darkened due to the individual dreaming
non-Krishna conscious thoughts that are transmitted there. It is only
there, within the maha-tattva, such dreaming self-centered desires
exist. This diseased condition infects those who choose to forget
Krishna and the real bodily form they serve Krishna as. Only within
the maha-tattva or material manifestation under the jurisdiction of
the sleeping and dreaming Maha-Vishnu, can their introverted selfish
dreaming consciousness exist. This condition of ignorance is similar
(but not the same) to ones dreams and fantasies experienced as real
while ones biological bodily is asleep or daydreaming. The dark cloud
(maha-tattva) is where ones introverted dreaming forgetful
consciousness becomes active however, the knowledge to tell the
difference between dreams and reality is lost. We forced Krishna to
allow us to come to this material universe, He warned us, but we came
anyway. He left that choice up to us.

The ethereal and biological vessels that the jiva-bhutah consciousness
possesses/creates (under the collaboration of Maha Vishnu), as well as
the material energy and elements (fossilized remains) that are left
over as a consequence of possessing impermanent biological bodies
(inferior energy or separated [from life] energies), such lifeless
matter is also under the jurisdiction of Maha-Vishnu and molded into
planets, moons and suns by the demigods however, there is always a
lifeless component of dust particles, rocks, gases, and even dead
planets, where neither ethereal or biological life exist, within the
maha tattva. Maha-Vishnu has arranged everything for the rebelouus
jiva-bhutah’s (souls) who come into His domaine. He is therefore
responsible for the blueprint or guidelines such jiva-bhutah’s will
follow, yet is and is not directly responsible for the lifeless matter
aspect of the maha-tattva or material universe. The jiva-bhutah’s
reverie consciousness is responsible for the lifeless energy aspect of
the material creation because when they create/possess a biological
body, the fossil remains of that body, once the jiva-bhutah
consciousness has departed from it, become the lifeless matter or
inferior energy that goes on as dust, gases, rocks, sand, etc that
accumulate and make up the sun, moon, planets and galaxies as already
explained.
When the atma-vigraha devotee’s dream in forgetfulness of Krishna and
their permanent Spiritual body, Krishna in His Balarama expansion also
accompanies their dreaming lower consciousness by entering into a
dream state with them. This expansion of Balarama dreaming is called
Maha-Vishnu. Balarama always remains in Goloka-Vrndavana with His
brother, the original Supreme two-armed Krishna or Shamasundara Form.
Lord Balarama always remains in Goloka-Vrndavana even while
simultaneously expanding Himself as Maha-Vishnu. The atma-vigraha
devotee’s are incapable of imitating Balarama or Krishna in this way.
The two-armed forms Krishna and Balarama are always within Radha and
Krishna’s original spiritual planet with Their loving devotees.

This transcendental Planet resembles the whorl of a huge lotus flower
and is called Goloka-Vrndavana. This eternally blissful personal place
is the highest abode of Lord Krishna, the original Personality of
Godhead.

In this way, Krishna’s original planet, Goloka-Vrndavana, throws off a
spiritual ray of effulgence called the brahmajyoti that is all the
individual atma-jiva-nitya-siddha-svarupa-sat-cit-ananda-vigraha
devotee’s bodily personalities, oftern refered to as spiritual sparks
within/as the Brahmajyoti.
There are also unlimited Spiritual planets surrounding Goloka-
Vrndavana where the so-called spiritual sparks (atma-jiva-vigraha
devotee’s) eternally reside serving Vishnu or Krishna.
On these Vishnuloka planets they serve Krishna’s eternal four-armed
Vishnu incarnation or expansion. These Brahmajoyti planets extend out
to the far reaches of the Spiritual sky that also eventually includes
the abode of Maha-Vishnu who residence is in one quarter of the
Personal Brahmajyoti however, within Maha-Vishnu’s material cosmic
dream manifestation, the whole Spiritual universe changes (except for
Maha-Vishnu and His internal expansions) because, in that corner of
creation within the Brahmajyoti, the Krishna Conscious nitya-siddha-
atma-vigraha’s personalities, who eternally serve Krishna, cannot
exist there unless the atma-vigraha devotee’s forget Krishna. That
forgetfulness manifests a phenomenon from within their own bodies,
that radiate’s a secondary self (nitya-baddha-jiva-bhutah condition)
existing as dreams (real but temporary).

Only in that independent self-centered dream (always desiring to be
served instead of serving Krishna), does the jiva-bhutah dreaming
consciousness hook-up with the dreams of Maha-Vishnu. In this way the
jiva-bhutah dream state and the dreams of maha-Vishnu become one. The
Impersonalists and Mayavardis cannot understand the chain of events
that leads the individual jiva-bhutah consciousness and the dreams of
maha-Vishnu to appear as one and the same. This is due to the
Mayavardis not seeing the full picture of universal creation. They
cannot see, believe nor comprehend the Personal perpetual Spiritual
Sky outside the realm of the maha-tattva. They have no devotion to
understand that the vast universe they imagine themselves to exist in,
is only one quarter of the entire creation. In this way, they exist in
a self-deluded impersonal universe they think is all one – I am you,
you are me, and we are all together. The paradox here is the jiva-
bhutahs dreams are the dreams of Maha-Vishnu. Individuality is never
lost although the jiva-bhutah consciousness cannot only imagine itself
as all one but can imagine itself as everyone. The material universe
(maha-tattva) can be an extremely dangerious place where one can stay
for almost an eternity, if they stubbornly choose not to serve Krishna
and therefore rewaken their ‘old’ Krishna Consciousness – even a
seeming eternity is just the blink of the eye (not even that) in the
Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha Spiritual Sky.

Maha-Vishnu’s dreams are your reality within the Impersonal material
universe. Only non-Krishna conscious dreams can transfer you, while in
total forgetfulness of your real Krishna Conscious atma-vigraha body,
from the personal Brahmajyoti in the Spiritual Sky to the ‘dark cloud
of dreaming’, which is the material and Impersonal universe that
exists within the dark agitated storm cloud for those who want to live
their dreams without Krishna.

Keep in mind the Personal Brahmajyoti is made up of the Vishnu planets
and the atma-vigraha devotees, who are within Krishna Consciousness
(Vaikuntha – nitya-siddha) and without Krishna consciousness (maha-
tatva – nitya-baddha). Along these lines, the Personal effulgence
surrounding this dark cloud or maha-tattva is also technically the
Brahmajyoti, even in its Impersonal manifestation as materialism, the
Brahma-sayajyu and the impersonal Brahmajoyti. It is all created by
the secondary dreaming jiva-bhutah consciousness and transmitted from
ones original self in Goloka-Vrndavan/Vaikuntha in an alliance with
the sleeping Maha-Vishnu, who is ultimately an expansion of Krishna in
Goloka-Vrndavan.
The dark cloud is simply a broadcast transmitted from the Personal
Brahmajyoti of atma-vigraha bodies and projected or played in the
holodeck of the maha-tattva that is real, but subject to forgetfulness
and impermanance.

Devotee -: In the Srimad-Bhagavatam, it says that Krishna did not want
us to come to this material world. If Krishna did not want us to come,
why are we here?

Prabhupada: ‘Yes. You forced Krishna to allow you to come. Just like
sometimes a child forces his father. Father says, "My dear son, do not
do this. Do not go there." But he insists, "Oh, I must go. I must go."
"All right, you go at your risk. That's all. And you suffer. What can
be done?" Because you are son of God--God has got independence, full
independence, almighty--therefore you have acquired the quality of
your father. You have got little independence. So God does not
interfere with your little independence. If you persist that "I must
go and enjoy independently," so God says, "All right, you can go."
This is the position. You have to take sanction. That is a fact. But
when you persist, God sanctions. And you come and enjoy. Beginning
from Lord Brahma down to the worms in the stool, gradually, according
to your work, according to your desire, you manufacture your different
types of body and enjoy and suffer. That's all. That is explained.
Prakrti-stho hi bhunkte prakrti-jan gunan. And as soon as you became
entangled in different types of punishment, not enjoyment but
punishment.

So in this way, being punished in different types of life, when we
come to the sense... That sense can come in human form of life. When
we understand that "I have traveled through, in, transmigrated from
many species of life, but every life I can see, not that I have
forgotten. Even if I have forgotten, I can see the suffering of the
cats, dogs, tiger, man, bulldog and everyone. So I had all these lives
in the past. Evolutionary process, I have come to this human. So I
suffered all these things. So when the question comes, "Why shall I
suffer?" then the inquiry--this is called, Vedanta-sutra, athato
brahma-jijnasa--the inquiry of God begins. That is human life. Yes.

Question: - Is Krishna a person God?

Prabhupada: - Yes, God is person, like you and me. You can go and talk
with Him, he qualified for that pur... Nitya nitya... This is Vedic
injunction. Nityo nityanam cetanas cetananam. God is eternal among all
other eternals. We are all eternal, and God is the chief eternal.
Nityo nityanam cetanas cetananam. We are also cognizant and God is
also cognizant. The difference is that I am cognizant with a limited
space and God is cognizant throughout the whole universe. But He is
also cognizant. He is also person. I am also person. What is the
difference? Eko bahunam yo vidadhati kaman. That one maintains all
these innumerable living entities. Therefore in the Bible you go and
ask God give us our daily bread, He is maintaining. That is the
difference between God and us. We are maintained and God is the
maintainer. We are predominated and God is the predominator. That is
the difference. He is a person, we are also persons, He is eternal, we
are eternal, He is cognizant, we are cognizant.

And all the desires and propensities what God has got, we have also
got. God has got this propensity to love Radharani. We have got also
the same propensity to love another young girl or young boy. So
originally it is there. Therefore in the Vedanta-sutra it is said
janmady asya yatah. God means from whom everything has come. So if
there is a question of love, the (indistinct) a man loving a woman and
woman loving a man, that is in God. It must be there. Otherwise
wherefrom it has come?

But that is pure and here it is impure on account of this material
contamination. The thing is there but it is contaminated. Therefore
you feel frustration. So intelligence is the why shall I remain in
this contaminated position? I shall go to the pure platform. That is
Krishna consciousness.

Question: - Why didn't anyone see Krishna's universal form before
Arjuna? Krishna said no one has seen before Arjuna. Why is that?

Prabhupada: You become like Arjuna, you will see. First of all you
become like Arjuna, friend of Krishna. Then you will see. Do you think
you are as good as Arjuna? Krishna says, Arjuna addressing, that I am
instructing to you my dear Arjuna, because you are my dear friend. And
you are very great devotee. Bhakto 'si priyo 'si me rahasyam etad
uttamam. I am speaking to you this Bhagavad-gita because you are
qualified. What is that qualification? Because you are My devotee and
very intimate friend. So you become also intimate friend and devotee,
you will understand everything. That is our request. If Arjuna becomes
a friend and devotee you can also become. Why you are losing this
opportunity? That is our propaganda. You also become a friend, a
devotee, and be happy and see Krishna as He is simply symbolic
representation. He says everyone. Let us take this opportunity and
become like Arjuna. That is perfection of life.’ End of Srila
Prabhupada’s comments - Bhagavad Gita 3.27 Lecture at the Town Hall,
Melbourne Australia 1974

This knowledge of ones original position as a servant of Krishna will
protect one from the illusionary goings on within material existence.
When sickness or death of loved one occures, it is simply the workings
of karma, the jiva-bhutah consciousness moves on to another vessel in
the endless search for happyness. At anytime one can be forced to
vacate their biological body because the ‘bank balance’ of certain
karma runs out. This knowledge of Krishna Consciousness can protect
one from the ignorant, painful lamentation of a friend or relative’s
death, and the illusions one’s own mind throws at one when death
comes.

Question:

I am bringing to your kind consideration the case of a close
acquaintance of mine. She is a lady who dearly loved and trusted her
husband, but was then cruelly abandoned by him. It has caused a deep
wound in her. She now finds no meaning in life. Sir, what is she
supposed to do? She gets suicidal thoughts very often. Is there any
meaning to her life? It would be very grateful of you, if you can
please shed some light in this matter.

Srila Prabhupada: - Surrender to Krishna…Your friend should not be so
disturbed. Her husband was her wife in a previous lifetime whom she
cruelly abandoned. Now her former wife has taken birth and become her
husband so she can get her revenge by becoming her husband and
similarly abandoning her.

Instead of being disturbed, your friend now should be resolved to get
out of karma-chakra, the wheel of karma, and go back to her original
position in the spiritual world before she fell down into this
material world by fully surrendering herself at the lotus feet of Lord
Sri Krishna under the guidance of the bona fide spiritual master. Only
this will make her fully happy.

Suicide will not help her. Her karma will haunt her birth after birth
until she fully surrenders to Lord Sri Krishna, the Supreme
Personality of Godhead.

The Impersonalist yogis, Buddhists, Jains and Mayavadis cannot enter
or merge their individuality into that surrounding active living
Personal Brahmajyoti, they can only enter (temporally) into the
Impersonal void aspect that exists only within the maha-tattva because
they do not believe in individuality. They also believe the material
universe is an unreal illusion which is also incorrect. The material
universe is real but temporary phenomenon.

Note: - the Personal devotional active effulgence or Brahmajyoti is
not practicals of light; it is individual personalities with eternal
bodily form that is always Krishna Conscious. This conversion from
Personal to Impersonal happens in this way, when the Brahmajyoti,
which is Krishna’s atma-vigraha devotees as well as all his various
Spiritual planets, consciously alter from being aware of their
Brahmajyoti-effulgent Krishna conscious atma-vigraha’s body, to
denying its existence, due to turning ones back on Krishna and
therefore expanding to the lower secondary dreaming conditional state
of consciousness.

In this way, ones conscious position and awareness within the Personal
Brahmajyoti, is transported to the dominion of the dreaming Maha-
Vishnu within the dark cloud or maha-tattva. It is that secondary
consciousness, that originally and eternally emanates from ones atma-
vigraha or the Personal brahmajyoti effulgence, that can eventually,
not just enter the Impersonal Brahmajyoti, but is an inactive living
individual dreaming consciousness or shadow of the personal
Brahmajyoti that is now consciously transferred into the Impersonal
Brahmajyoti.

As a consequence of forgetfulness, the Personal individual effulgent
rays or particles (atma-vigraha bodily personalities) surrounding
Krishna are transferred consciously (not in their atma-vigraha
physical body) to the dark cloud of ‘the dreaming Maha-Vishnu’s’
impermanent manifestation. In other words, what is going on here, is
the original effulgence of Krishna, which is unlimited atma-vigraha
bodies including planets, have the ability to either remain in their
real effulgent atma-vigraha self or form, or ‘consciously’ extend
themselves from their original effulgent bodily atma-vigraha self in
the Personal devotional Brahmajyoti, consciously transferring into a
lower conscious state (jiva-bhutah) that can only exist within or just
outside Maha-Vishnu’s impermanent dreaming creation.

As already explained, yet needs to be emphasized, Maha-Vishnu’s
separate dark dreaming universe is also part of the Spiritual sky or
Brahmajyoti where the Vaikuntha’s exist but appears as a dark cloud in
that Personal Brahmajyoti. However the dark cloud component of the
Brahmajyoti, or the universe of illusions and dreams, is also under
the jurisdiction Maha-Vishnu whose dreams only confirm that the maha-
tattva is the universe for those bodies that are asleep and dreaming
in the eternal Kingdom of God.

The only way to enter the so-called Impersonal Brahmajyoti or Brahma-
sayujya is to enter within the dark cloud cover or the universe of the
dreaming Maha-Vishnu and first be active in ethereal and biological
bodies within the material universe, as the lower self jiva-bhutah
transmitted consciousness. Only then can one move on to the so called
non-materially active liberated jiva-nikaya consciousness that becomes
part of the illusionary Impersonal Brahmajyoti that is simply a
transformation from the Personal Brahmajoyti to the Impersonal
Brahmajyoti, when ones consciousness entered the maha-tattva or
material manifestation. No matter which way we look at it, we are
always part of the Brahmajyoti because collectively we are the
Brahmajyoti (individually) or the Personal effulgence Krishna.

Even those who take shelter in Impersonal aspect of the creation
existing in the realm of Maha-Vishnu, eventually fall out of that
counterfeit Impersonal sense of oneness due to the inherent nature
that all living entities in the Brahmajyoti are energetic and dynamic
and have an original active Krishna Conscious atma-vigraha body. Not
have an original body, they are that body!

Maha-Vishnu’s creation allows and facilitates the non-Krishna
Conscious dreams of those who forget Krishna and simultaneously their
real and only personal body. His dark universe that is also part of
the Brahmajyoti but now in its Impersonal aspect is like a cloud that
overtakes a corner of the spiritual sky or Personal brahmajyoti. This
covered portion is called the mahat-tattva. Krishna, via His dreaming
expansion Maha-Vishnu, lies down in the water within the maha-tattva.
This water is called the Causal Ocean (karana-jala). As He sleeps
within the Causal Ocean, innumerable universes are generated with His
breathing that laid the foundations for the dreaming illusions of
those who choose to forget their Krishna Conscious atma-vigraha body
and instead, take on the multiple-identities created by the lower
conscious jiva-bhutah hallucination. These floating universes within
the material manifestation are scattered all over the Causal Ocean to
provide planets and universe that facilitate the desires and non-
Krishna conscious thoughts of those who want to forget Krishna and
build their own existence.

As already mentioned, within the Krishna’s unlimited Personal
brahmajyoti, there are unlimited numbers of personalized eternal
spiritual planets. In contrast, within the maha-tattva where the
Personal has transformed into the Impersonal, there are also
innumerable numbers of material impermanent planets and universes.
These material massive universes with billions of galaxies are
equivalent to one Vishnuloka planet in the Personal Brahmajyoti or
Spiritual Sky. These innumerable material planets also technically
exist within the same Brahmajoyti effulgence as the Vishnuloka
planets, except they are trapped as dreams within the Impersonal dark
portion of that same Personal Brahmajyoti that resembles a dark cloud
in one corner of the Spiritual Sky. This aspect of the Brahmajyoti
that houses the Impersonal Brahmajyoti, is under jurisdiction of the
dreaming Maha-Vishnu, who represents the causeless mercy and loving
concern of Krishna by accompanying the forgetful jiva-bhutah
consciousness where ever is goes by providing everything it needs and
desires, even its Impersonal jiva-nikaya dreamless state, where ones
consciousness becomes inactive and where their original natural
Brahmajyoti individual active bodily effulgent self, transforms into
an Impersonal Brahmajyoti inactive individual self. This Impersonal
transformation is part and parcel of the conscious fall down that
enters the maha-tattva dark cloud but is detached from the influence
of the maha-tattva or material universe.

The Personal and Impersonal Brahmajyoti both emanates from Krishna,
however it is important to clearly understand that the Personal
Brahmajyoti around Krishna only transforms to the Impersonal
Brahmajyoti way, way out on the edge of the Spiritual Sky within the
realm of the maha-tattva (material manifestation). Even though further
away form the inner circle Personal Brahmajyoti, the maha-tattva cloud
is still part of the Brahmajyoti surrounding Krishna, except is in a
different dimensional state of consciousness that always is perishable
and leaves a trail of fossilized remains that is in fact Krishna’s
inferior energy called matter. This ‘matter’ does not exist in the
Goloka-Vrndavan/Vaikuntha realms, yet does and does not exist in the
Brahmajyoti. In simple terms it does not exist in the Personal
Brahmajyoti. Also only within the vicinity of this dark cloud or maha-
tattva can Impersonalism and materialism be embraced. It is only
within that dark illusionary portion of the Personal Brahmajyoti, the
Impersonal Brahmajyoti exists.

Impersonalism cannot stand within the realm of the Vishnu Planets or
the central Krishnaloka Planet known as Goloka-Vrndavana Planet (the
realm of the Personal Brahmajyoti).

The Spiritual planets are dominated by plenary expansions of Lord
Krishna (Vishnu in His four armed form), and the inhabitants there are
ever-liberated atma-vigraha meaning their bodily form can never cease
to exist even if, from time to time, they consciously forget their
real self and form and enter the dark cloud within the Spiritual sky
where one can live out their imagination and fantasies as dreams. The
vast construction of the material universe is meant to assist the jiva-
bhutah consciousness experience their material dreams and desires that
can last for billions upon billions of years.

The atma-vigraha devotee’s or servants (one’s higher real self in its
full capacity), have bodily features like the Lord and are full of
bliss, knowledge and are imperishable however, the Spiritual Sky is so
variegated that ones original atma-jiva-vigraha body can and does
change. This paradox is only one of many when understanding the real
self.

Krishna is known within the Personal Brahmajyoti as Narayana and the
planets are known as Vaikunthas where as in the maha-tattva, also
within the Spiritual Sky or Brahmajyoti, the same Vishnu is known as
Maha-Vishnu. Unlike the fully awake multipul Vishnu’s in the Vaikuntha
planets’s, Maha-Vishnu is sleeping in the maha-tattva or material
universe. Within His dreams exist the dreams of the atma-vigraha’s
secondary non Krishna conscious lower self, also in a dreaming
consciousness when activated by separatist views and self centred
desires. The lower-self or jiva-bhutah always wants to be served and
worshiped instead of serving Krishna selflessly.

The material universe portion of the maha-tattva is only found within
the dreaming perception of Maha-Vishnu, there are many different
layers of realities that surrond his body that include the casual
ocean, the varj, the void, the impersonal Brahmajyoti, all said to be
also within the maha-tattva. As Maha-Vishnu sleeps, from His bodily
pours spring unlimited globes or material universes, in each and every
universal globe the same Maha-Vishnu enters again as Garbodhakasayi
Vishnu and lies there on the Garbha Ocean on the serpentine Sesa
incarnation. From his navel-abdomen sprouts a lotus stem, and on the
lotus, Brahma, the Lord of a material universe, is born - Within the
maha-tatva there are billions of Brahma’s, the one in our universe is
a pure devotee of Krishna and has four heads while others, who also
manage their universes, may have eight or ten or even a hundred heads.
Also in many cases, they are not always devotees.

Brahma further facilitates the dreams of the jiva-bhutah consciousness
by creating ethereal and biological shapes as well as their material
surrounding in terms of selfish desires within the material universe.
Garbodhakasayi Vishnu also fascilitates the sun, moon and planets out
of the inferior energy or fossilized remains left over from the
pervious presents of the jiva-bhutah consciosness or life force, and
empowers those jiva-bhutah’s who have earned the right to become
demigods like Brahma or ministers like Indra, Yamaraj, Agni, Viyu,
Ghanesa – 33000,000 of them within his material universal management.
On this level the material dream appears so real and like politicians,
embodied jiva-bhutah’s fight for a ministerial position within the
Government headed by Brahma. Only through pious karma can one attain a
demigod post within the Government of Brahma because on that level of
consciousness within the sub-space-material universe, the embodied
jiva-bhutah (ethereal vessel), thoughts and actions are on the same
level.

Krishna further expands Himself again as Ksirodakasayi Vishnu, and
enters everything-even into the minute atom. This is because
everything including fossilised organic matter left over from the
presents of life, is all part of His initial Personal Brahman or
Brahmajyoti effulgence that transforms to the dulled Impersonal
Brahmajyoti within the jurisdiction of the dreaming Maha-Vishnu. The
two are separated only by consciousness. If one is Krishna Conscious,
then they are aware of their original atma-vigraha and the Personal
Brahmajyoti. If they are not, then they are dreaming and only in those
dreams can the Impersonal Brahmajyoti exist. This is because the
Impersonal Brahmajyoti is an illusion dreamed up by ones forgetful
consciousness. There are millions and billions of suns in all the
millions and billions of universes within the mahat-tattva. The suns
and moons are required within the universes because they are dark by
nature. The Vedas instruct us to go out of the dark universes and
reach the glowing effulgence, the brahmajyoti.

The brahmajyoti is made up of the marginal atma-vigraha’s in their
original body, whom are the personified (always in Spiritual form and
body) effulgence of Krishna. This effulgence is always personified
(contray to the words English meaning) even though the Vedic texts
often refer to these innumerable bodily perpetual personalities as
spiritual sparks or atoms in the effulgent brightness of Krishna’s
Aura, they are indeed individual perons with bodies made out of nitya-
siddha-sat-cit-ananda-vigraha-bhakti. The atma-vigraha’s are described
‘as aoms or spaks in the effulgence’ because of their insignificant
size in comparison to Krishna the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the
cause of all causes and maintainer of the both the real everlasting
reality of Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha’s and the unrealistic
impermanent dream material universe carry out Krishna’s sleeping Maha-
Vishnu expansion. Also within that Personal Brahmajyoti exists the
Impersonal Brahmajyoti, or inferior cognisant universe in the dream
creation of Maha-Vishnu, as already explained. It is in the impersonal
Brahmajyoti and the Causal Ocean where the jiva-nikaya (inactive or
dormant) consciousness can dream up its illusionary non-dream
condition that appears as a spark of living light or an authentic
living atom (a figment of the non-dream-state imagination) within the
Causal Ocean, Impersonal Brahmajyoti or even merged into the Body of
Maha-Vishnu. The entire material creation is only 1/4 of the entire
creation of Krishna.... the Goloka-Vrndavana/Vaikuntha realm accounts
for the other 3/4.

The Brahmajyoti is also the illuminating Vaikuntha planets, which need
no sun or moon or power of electricity, perpetual motion can only
exist within an imperishable atmosphere and not in the material
universe. Even within the heavenly material sub-space planets,
perpetual motion may last for billions of years like our sun, but
eventually it comes to an end.

The goal of our existence is to wake up from the dream and leave the
material universe and again have association with Krishna in His
spiritual universe, either on the Vaikuntha planets with Krishna’s
Narayana expansions or directly in Krishna’s Lila in the Supreme
Abode, Goloka-Vrndavana in ones original atma-vigraha bodies.

Maha-Vishnu is the first of the Purushas (“controllers,” also known as
Vishnu’s), incarnations of Krishna for the creation of the material
universe. Maha-Vishnu creates trillians of universes in many different
diminsions.

As already explained, He lies down in the Causal Ocean on the bed of
Ananta Shesha and initiates the creation by glancing at His wife, Maya
(material energy) and impregnating her with the the jiva-bhutah’s who
are simultaneously a dreaming transmitted consciousness desiring this
unseen event that allows them to follow their mistaken desires and
imaginings to lord it over the material universe and try and get
everyone to serve them and their dreams.

If you find a watch out in a desert, that watch did not magically
materialize, someone built it, similarly one’s dreams on the absolute
level, that create the material universe, do not just materialize,
they are also built by someone. This builder of the material dreams
and universe begins with Maha-Vishnu.

>From the dreaming Maha-Vishnu come the other two Vishnu’s:
Garbhodakashayi Vishnu and Kshirodakashayi Vishnu. Maha-Vishnu creates
the innumerable impermanent universes that are considered an illusion
however, on this level of consciousness, all dreams and thoughts are
not exactly an illusion, they are real, but are temporary and always
fad away. Ad forgetfulness (another quality of the maha-tatva) to that
understanding and eventually it will be as if it never was – that’s
what Maya means – that which is not.

Garbhodakashayi Vishnu enters into each individual universe to oversee
it; and Ksirodakashayi Vishnu enters into each atom in every universe
and sits within us jiva-bhutah (material active dreaming) or jiva-
nikaya (material inactive non-dreaming) in our hearts as yet another
expansion of Krishna, the Paramatma or Supersoul.

Whether in our fullness as our atma Vigraha Krishna Conscious body, or
in our dreaming lower self, Krishna is always with us. As we wake up
from the dream, we can realize this fact.

As already mentioned, the maha-tattva is a cloudlike darkness in one
corner (one quarter the size of the Spiritual sky or Brahmajyoti) from
which the causal oean and the material universes are created. The
ethereal, biological and the material ingredients reside eternally
within the dreams of maha-Vishnu. The void, impersonal Brahmajyoti,
and nirvarna and merging into the body of Maha-Vishnu exist outside of
the dreams of Maha-Vishnu. This is very difficult to understand
because all this goes on within the different level or dimensions
within maha-tattva. The highest Impersonal liberated state is within
the Impersonal Brahmajyoti.

To initiate the material creation, Maha Vishnu glances at his wife,
transplanting the atma-vigraha’s lower self (jiva-bhutah) to her
dominion and the she facilities her expanding material universe to
meet the needs of the jiva-bhutah dreaming sub-consciousness. She is
aways tempting and encouraging the embodied jiva-bhutah’s to expand
their ethereal, biological and material desires. She does this because
only by not being misled by her temptations, can one begin to wake up
from their dreams within Maha-Vishnu’s dreams.

As Maha-Vishnu sleeps, around His body exists the Causal Ocean. It is
like a surrounding shell of water and is named the Viraja River.

There is a river, or causal ocean is between the Vaikunthas and
material dreams of Maha-Vishnu, yet still within the realm of the maha
tattva. This river is also called the devotional doorway out of the
maha-tattva, it is a pathway taken by those who are beginning to wake
up from their jiva-bhutah transmitted non-Krishna conscious dreams. In
other words, as one wakes-up by becoming Krishna Conscious, the jiva-
bhutah consciousness is withdrawn back to its Krishna Conscious nitya-
siddha-atma-jiva-vigraha imperishable body.