Our fall down from Vaikuntha is not difficult to understand - Srila Prabhupada

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Oct 27, 2007, 8:26:01 PM10/27/07
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Some devotees once said in Mayapur that it is too difficult to
understand how we originally feel down from Goloka or Vaikuntha and
the subject is best not discussed. Here is Srila Prabhupada's
response.

Srila Prabhupada - "No, it is not difficult. It is not difficult".

Acyutananda - "It is not difficult. They don't want to understand".

Srila Prabhupada - "Because you are part and parcel of God, God has
got full independence, but you have got little independence,
proportionately, because you are part and parcel".

Acyutananda - "But in the Gita, it says, "Once coming there, he never
returns."

Srila Prabhupada - "But if he likes, he can return".

Acyutananda - "He can return".

Srila Prabhupada - "That independence has to be accepted, little
independence. We can misuse that. Krsna-bahirmukha hana bhoga vancha
kare. That misuse is the cause of our falldown".Mayapur, India, on
February 19, 1976, Srila Prabhupada

Paramahamsa: So we can come to the spiritual world and return?

Srila Prabhupada: Yes.

Paramahamsa: Fall down?

Srila Prabhupada: Yes. As soon as we try, "Oh, this material world is
very nice," "Yes," Krsna says, "yes, you go . . . Otherwise what is
the meaning of free will?' Morning Walk, Cheviot Hills Golf Course May
13, 1973 Los Angeles

Prabhupada - "originally EVERYONE is nitya-siddha.

nitya-siddha krishna-bhakti 'sadhya' kabhu naya
zravanadi-zuddha-citte karaye udaya

Every living entity originally nitya-siddha, but somehow or other,
just like Jaya-Vijaya, fell down in this material world"Srimad
Bhagavatam Class

Srila Prabhupada - "Actually no-one falls down from Vaikuntha, they
only 'think' they are fallen or 'dream' they are fallen but in
perpetual reality one can never fall down". Srimad Bhagavatam class
Japan

Srila Prabhupada - 'No one falls from the spiritual world or Vaikuntha
planet, for it is the eternal abode. (Bhag. 3.16.26, purp.)

Mayapur, India, on February 19, 1976 Questions to Srila Prabhupadfa of
how we fell down from Goloka, (not as our nitya-siddha body) as our
dreaming nitya-baddha dreaming consciousness

Srila Prabhupada - "So as eternal servitors of Krishna-our
constitutional position-we fall down when we try to become the
enjoyer, imitating Krishna. That is our downfall". Letter to
Jananivasa Prabhu, dated August 27, 1967

This clearly means our nitya-siddha body can never leave Goloka or
Vaikuntha and that WE ONLY DREAM WE LEAVE.

The mahat-tattva is the place where such dreams go and that is also
why Maha-Vishnu is dreaming the entire mahat-tattva which takes up 25%
of the Spiritual Sky.

Srila Prabhupada - "This material creation is the spirit soul's dream.
Actually all existence in the material world is a dream of Maha-Visnu,
as the Brahma Samhita describes: Purport to SB. 4.29.83.

Srila Prabhupada - "This material world is created by the dreaming of
Maha-Visnu. The real factual platform is the spiritual world, but when
the spirit soul wants to imitate the Supreme Personality of Godhead,
he is put into this dreamland of material creation." Purport to SB.
4.29.83.

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