The origin of the jiva soul
Hare Krishna
projected transmitted consciousness with extensive realms, networks and
destinations without really going anywhere"- Pradyumna Swami
"Technically there is no structure to the individual jiva-soul in its
manifestation within the illusionary dream world of the material
universe because it is only transmitted consciousness - the material
universe itself is an illusion.
The meaning of illusion is non-Krishna Conscious desires and thoughts
that appears real, but fades away and disappears in due course, just
like the dreams one has at night. Such non-Krishna dreaming 'figments
of the imagination' manifests as the temporary material universe. The
jiva (life force, soul or living entity) existing in the material
universe is simply 'dreaming consciousness' moulded by NON-Krishna
Conscious thoughts, desires and eventually karma. We call that
consciousness, originating or transmitted from its eternal self and
form, the life force or soul in English.
The Srimad Bhagavatam (Bhagavat Purana - vedanta) calls this
transmitted life force, the jiva consciousness, and explains how the
jiva (soul) enters the impermanent material universe, originating from
an eternal perpetual universe where everything is alive with
personality and form and never decays or fades away. It is from an
individual Krishna Conscious personality in this atmosphere, the
jiva-soul consciousness originates and projects an illusionary
existence that is the material universe when not Krishna Consciousness.
The way this happens is due to non-Krishna Conscious thoughts that
first begin simultaneously; meaning as soon as one forgets Krishna and
serving His blissful form, one forgets them-self (their own real form)
and becomes absorbed in their own non-Krishna Conscious dreams. The
consequences of forgetting Krishna and ones real eternal Krishna
Conscious atma (self)-vigraha (form) body, is an imagined universe
separated from Krishna and ones real self and form. The material
universe (dream) is nothing other than generated fading thoughts that
create unlimited bodily vessels made provisional because of the
capricious nature of the jiva soul consciousness.
There is no such thing as a spark of life or independent disconnected
jiva, atma or life force in the material universe that is separated
from, or a different entity from ones real eternal
nitya-siddhasvarupa-sat-cit-ananda-atma-vigraha personality. The only
difference is if one is Krishna Conscious or not Krishna Conscious. All
life in the material universe is not real; it is only an illusionary
transmitted dream because it is all projected consciousness
'interneted*' from ones individual personality and form in the only
reality in creation, known as Goloka-Vrindavan and the Vaikuntha realm.
*The real meaning of the word Internet is 'the linking up of ones
projected transmitted consciousness with extensive realms, networks and
destinations without really going anywhere. In the case of the
atma-vigraha body in Goloka-Vrindavan, it is the forgetfulness of
Krishna that instigates instantly the further absentmindedness of
oneself (atma-vigraha bodily personality) simultaneously. The
non-Krishna Conscious thoughts, in modern scientific terminology,
becomes the virtual internet (transmitted consciousness) super-highway
(the material universe) that creates the many bodies and places for the
transmitted jiva-soul-consciousness to live out extended non-Krishna
Conscious dreams. The jiva-soul is 'thought' transmitted as the
virtual Internet super highway.
A crude example of this can be compared to the present hi-tech virtual
reality Internet revolution. The material hallucination world to the
Krishna Conscious atma vigraha IS what the Internet virtual super
highway and 3.D. computer games are to the biological human body in the
scientific technological age of the 21st century. Another crude example
of how this works: - Today modern scientists are sending probes out
into space or in medicine they are sending probes deep into the
biological body, these probes become an extension of their senses but
have no effect directly on their senses. In this way, they can go deep
into space or deep within the biological body without really going
there. This is because they have extended their influence or conscious
awareness with the extensions of their sensual perception. None of the
extensions carrying their consciousness are real.
Or another example is telephones and the new 3 dimensional televisions;
one can be transported to a lounge room anywhere in the world, but are
they really there? The answer is obviously no, therefore not only is
the transmission of the real self's consciousness (the atma-vigraha
body) is not real, neither is the form of transport (the jiva-soul) is
real. There is no real substance to the jiva-soul consciousness, just
as there is no substance to the transmitted 3D television singles
broadcasted from the television studio. In this way EVERYTHING is
broadcasted from Goloka-Vrindavan. Due to the temporary nature of the
material universe prompted by forgetfulness, the jiva-soul
consciousness sheds a lifeless phenomenon (container), these
thought-generated-containers, absence the presents of the jiva-soul
consciousness, eventually breaks down and expands the lifeless aspect
of the material universe with fossilized dust, gases and sand that
eventually become rocks, mountains, planets, moons, solar systems and
galaxies over trillions of years however, the material universe is an
ever expanding illusion generated, created and constantly repeated by
non-Krishna Conscious thought, contemplation, deliberation and
meditation. In this way all matter comes from life. How this happens
will be gradually explained in this thesis. There is no difference
between desires, thoughts and actions on the absolute level. Either one
is thinking of serving Krishna or not thinking of Krishna.
If one chooses to not serve Krishna with every thought and action, then
they disqualify themselves from living in the perpetual
Goloka-Vrindavan (Krishna's [God] Kingdom) and 'consciously'
(not Physically in their atma-vigraha body), leave the Kingdom of
Krishna as the transmitted dreaming jiva-soul-consciousness. Based on
non-Krishna Conscious desires and thoughts, this dreaming consciousness
then becomes covered by its own generated ethereal body, cast by those
non-Krishna Conscious desires and thoughts. Eventually the ethereal
body further generates a biological body, this is where the distinction
between desires, thoughts and actions begin to manifest and Karma
begins to exist in the human biological form of life. The generated
biological body is like a garment covering the already embodied
jiva-soul. This is very difficult to understand, what is written here
in 'THE SECRET BOOK OF ORIGINS', is how this happens and is also
the correct understanding of what the jiva (life force) is and where it
originates. The Sanskrit word jiva in this thesis means transmitted
consciousness that originates from its eternal individual Krishna
Conscious atma (self)-vigraha (form) foundation in Krishna's abode.
Lord Krishna's eternal Kingdom is known as Goloka-Vrindavan, or the
Kingdom of God. Some scholars call the atma-vigraha body, the jiva or
atma however, to make this book easier to understand, the Sanskrit word
JIVA refers to the transmitted forgetful consciousness that emanates
from the eternal and never changing Krishna Conscious atma-vigraha body
that is always serving Krishna (God) in Goloka-Vrindavan.
The forgetful Krishna Consciousness of the individual atma-vigraha
personalities in Goloka-Vrindavan is called the televised transmitted
jiva (jiva is the Sanskrit word for life force) soul (English word for
life force) consciousness that reverberates sub-conscious thoughts of
non-Krishna Conscious origins (desires) that broadcast the
realism-dream-state-illusion of the impermanent material universe. The
description of Goloka-Vrindavan and the Vishnu Planets in the
Vaikunthas will also be explained. This goes into the deeper
understanding and explains how ones real self (atma-vigraha) serves
Krishna in unlimited ways, even when sleeping and dreaming. Not all
dreams are of the material universe. When one dreams of Krishna in the
Kingdom of God in their real form (atma-vigraha), such dreams expand
one's relationship with Krishna in unlimited ways, then there are
Krishna Conscious dreams within those dreams on and on - this is how
one can be a servant, a son or daughter, a friend, a parent, a lover, a
bird for Krishna to enjoy, a tree, a blade of grass for Krishna to walk
on, a star (all fully Krishna Conscious) in the sky for Krishna to
dance under during the moon lit night, or even an enemy of Krishna in
His Lila or pastime.
Also Krishna Himself has unlimited expansions that allows Him to Be
with every individual simultaneously and appear as other expanded
personalities, such as Balarama, Radharani, Lord Rama and Vishnu to
name a few - all at the same time. This is explained in the Caitanya
Caritamrta however, these secrets of secrets can only be understood
when one is fully selflessly Krishna Conscious." - Quote from the
Secret Book Of Origins-understanding Quantum Physics or the science of
possibilities.
EXPLAINING THE ORIGIN OF THE LIFE FORCE OR JIVA-SOUL
CONSCIOUSNESS.
NOTE: If there is repetition of words and explanations, then it is an
important clarification to understand.
Great Rishis, Yogis and Sages who are devotees of Lord Krishna, the
Supreme Personality of Godhead and source of all creation and the cause
of all causes, want to see all the individual
projected-jiva-soul-consciousnesses (individual life force's) trapped
in various temporary extended imaginary bodily ethereal and biological
identities and vessels within the material universal dream, wake-up and
return back home, back to Godhead.
In this way, compassionate genuine devotees of Lord Krishna want to see
the transmitted forgetful jiva-soul-consciousness reunite or come
together, amalgamate and join back with their real self and 'full
awake' individual and independent 'Krishna Conscious body', which
is there authentic eternal imperishable source and origin. This
incomparable and unmatched form is called the Krishna Conscious
nitya-siddha-svarupa-sat-cit-ananda-atma-vigraha body that is always
selflessly serving Lord Krishna (God).
The only way to 'be who one really is in the body they really are
(Krishna Conscious atma-vigraha personality) eternally', is to always
remember and serve Krishna and never ever forget Him.
His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada, founder of
ISKCON, (The International Society For Krishna Consciousness) preached
that we did indeed fall from the spiritual world known as
Goloka-Vrindavan. Impersonalist and even some Vaisnava sects such as
the Gaudiya Math cannot understand this and foolishly believe it was a
ploy to encourage many to become devotees in a Christian dominated
society. They foolishly believe our origins are from the Brahmajoyti.
Such nonsense interpretations from some in the Gaudiya Math, as well as
some mislead ISKCON devotees they have polluted, are not only drivel,
but poison to a real Vaisnava devotee of Krishna and the ISKCON mission
of Srila Prabhupada and Lord Caitanya.
Srila Prabhupada's words are very clear - we have an original
Krishna Conscious body we have presently forgot and our forgetful
jiva-soul-consciousness originates from the PERSONAL bodily
atma-vigraha form and is transmitted as dreams to the illusionary
material universe.
Paramahamsa: But ultimately if we come to Krishna, there's no return.
But nevertheless, Jagai, and ... the two gatekeepers, they returned?
Prabhupada: There is return that is voluntary. Return there is.
Paramahamsa: If we want.
Prabhupada: Yes.
Paramahamsa: So we can come to the spiritual world and return?
Prabhupada: Yes.
Paramahamsa: Fall down?
Prabhupada: Yes. As soon as we try, "Oh, this material world is very
nice," "Yes," Krishna says, "yes, you go." (Conversation, Los Angeles,
May 13, 1973)
Devotee: If we came from there, how did we fall if we were already
there?
Prabhupada: ...because we are in the material world, it is to be
understood that we have fallen down...we are in the material condition
of life. Just go on treating it, and as soon as you are cured, be
careful not to fall down again. But there is chance of falling down,
again becoming diseased. Not that because you once become cured, there
is no chance of becoming diseased again. There is chance. Therefore we
shall be very much careful. (Bg. lecture, Los Angeles, December 19,
1968)
Usually anyone who has developed his relationship with Krishna does not
fall down in any circumstance, but because the independence is always
there, the soul may fall down from any position or any relationship by
misusing his independence. (70-02-27)
Devotee: Well, I believe you once said that once a conditioned soul
becomes perfected and gets out of the material world and he goes to
Krishnaloka, there's no possibility of falling back.
Prabhupada: No. There is possibility, but he does not come. (Cc.
lecture, San Francisco, Feb. 18, 1967)
Acyutananda: But in the Gita, it says, "Once coming there, he never
returns.
Prabhupada: But if he likes, he can return.
Acyutananda: He can return.
Prabhupada: That independence has to be accepted, little independence.
We can misuse that. Krsna-bahirmukha hana bhoga vancha kare. That
misuse is the cause of our fall down. (Conversation, Mayapur, Feb. 19,
1976)
Devotee: If one is fortunate enough to revive his natural position in
the spiritual sky, how can he keep from falling down again? ...
Prabhupada: Anyone, even in this world or spiritual world, he has got
the potency of coming down by misusing his little independence. It is
nothing like that, that if you become president, you are secure.
(Lecture, Atlanta, March 2, 1975)
A good example of Srila Prabhupada's preaching that our
jiva-soul-consciousness originates from our real atma-vigraha body is
as follows:
Prabhupada: (chants mangalacarana prayers) Ladies and Gentlemen, I
thank you very much for your kindly participating in this great
movement. This movement is not started by me. This was started long,
long years ago by Krishna Himself. Firstly, He spoke this philosophy of
Bhagavad-gita to the sun-god . . . We have come from the spiritual
world in this material world. We have forgotten our father. So we have
to revive this relationship with our father, or God, or Krishna. That
is the main business of human life . . . We have come from God; we
again go back to God if we simply understand Krishna, or God. This is
the whole instruction of the Bhagavad-gita. (City Hall Lecture:
751007LE.DUR)
This is the living entities (atma-vigraha's) real identity, body and
personality, or ones only everlasting reality that exists in
Goloka-Vrindavan, where one is eternally and selflessly serving Krishna
in His timeless imperishable Kingdom. The full potential and memory of
one's extended-projected-forgetful-jiva-soul-consciousness
transmitted as fading illusionary (temporary) dreams within the
material universe, originates at the source of that transmission, which
is one's full consciousness or atma-vigraha Krishna Conscious
imperishable body in Goloka-Vrindavan, the eternal Kingdom of God.
The origin of the jiva-soul sub-(restricted)-consciousness, or
transmitted life force, is from its origin or Krishna Conscious
atma-vigraha body. How one falls from the Personal Active Kingdom of
God (in a projected broadcasted dreaming consciousness), to the
impermanent material world, where one's transmitted dreaming
consciousness, known as the jiva-soul, creates, out of ignorance and
forgetfulness, an unlimited variety of temporary bodily ethereal
(heavenly and hellish) containers, as well as the ethereal bodies
'extended' biological vessels, appearing on the middle planetary
systems like our earth can be understood by those who are genuinely
attempting to reestablish their Krishna Consciousness.
These biological vessels includes all the various species of biological
shapes or vehicles, as well as a further projected dream-state
illusionary escape from both the ethereal body and its extended
biological body into inactivity, known as the Impersonal motionless
non-spiritual Brahma-sayujya, Brahmajoyti or tatastra-sakti. All are an
illusion outside the realm of Gokoka Vrindavan and created by the
sleeping Maha-Vishnu, an expansion of Krishna who facilitates the
illusionary dreams of those atma-vigraha personalities who choose to
forget their association and Lila (pastime) with Krishna with
non-Krishna Conscious dreams.
>From the top most platform in the Kingdom of God (Krishna's
Goloka-Vrindavan), thoughts and dreams appear as real as the reality of
the Kingdom of God itself however, when those thoughts and dreams are
not Krishna Conscious, they manifest in their own reality with one
major difference, all non Krishna Conscious dreams and thoughts are
temporary, and in this way the impermanent material universe, as well
as the transitory impersonal Brahmajoyti, both appear to exist when in
fact they are nothing more than a non-Krishna Conscious dream.
The word Spiritual in this thesis means Krishna Conscious devotion. The
Brahmajoyti is not a spiritual place because devotion to Krishna can
never exist there.
The impersonal idea that the jiva-soul is a living individual atomic
spark originating from the impersonal Brahmajoyti; also exist in
Buddhism and many impersonal branches of Hinduism. They also call this
illusionary place the Nirvana or Void. Also some Vaisnava (devotees of
Lord Krishna) sects, such as the Gaudiya Math, also absurdly believe
that the origin of the jiva-soul is a living spark coming from the
Brahmajoyti. Such Impersonalism denies the true greatness of
Krishna's Personal Creation. Those who seek the shelter of the
Impersonal inactive Brahmajoyti, have long, long ago denied the
existence of a Personal God (Krishna) who is the maintainer of all, as
well as the maintainer of their own original 'full Krishna
Conscious' bodily form, personality, identity and individuality
(Krishna Conscious atma-vigraha personality and body) that blossoms
eternally as an everlasting loving selfless servant of Krishna that is
now forgotten. They therefore eventually take shelter of the Impersonal
Brahmajoyti after becoming frustrated with millions of life times in
the material universe; they do this because they have long, long, long
ago forgotten their unadulterated Spiritual (devotional Krishna
Conscious) bodily relationship with Krishna. As already explained, such
forgetfulness is the cause of ones fall down where one projects or
broadcasts their forgetful transmittable dreaming non-Krishna
consciousness and thoughts to their own 'reality' (material
universe) that, unlike the Krishna Conscious Spiritual universe, is
temporary and is always in decline or decay.
Srila Prabhupada explains the origins of our non-Krishna Conscious
dreams (manifesting as and through the medium of the
jiva-soul-consciousness) are transmitted from our personal form
(atma-vigraha Krishna Conscious body) that is always serving Krishna
(God) in that permanent spiritual body, that we have presently, and for
the a brief moment, forgotten.
This all seems contradictory because of mundane material time. In
actual fact, when we awaken as our atma-vigraha body, it will seem that
we had never forgot Krishna at all because now we again remember
Krishna. Think about it and remember Krishna in the process.
Our separation from Gods Personal Kingdom, His Divine Grace A. C.
Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada taught, is a non-Krishna Conscious
dream. We dream, "I am this body," and we dream of happiness in
material relationships without Krishna.
This dreaming condition is our non-liberated (non-Krishna Conscious)
state. But although this state of dreaming may seem to last for
lifetimes, as soon as we become Krishna conscious we awaken, and the
dream at once disappears, the dream will be as if it never happened
because we are Krishna Conscious, totally conscious of Krishna and
nothing else. In this way we again become who we really are in our
Krishna Conscious atma-vigraha body.
Srila Prabhupada explains, "After millions and millions of years of
keeping oneself away from the Lila [pastimes] of the Lord, when one
comes to Krishna consciousness this period becomes insignificant, like
dreaming."
Srila Prabhupada in his lectures always says that originally we were
all Krishna-conscious living entities and on the Hare Krishna album He
addresses a large audience with the words:
"We are all originally Krishna (God) conscious entities"
Srila Prabhupada in 1968 tells an inquisitive devotee.
"You can know Goloka-Vrindavan by hearing from Srimad-Bhagavatam. Why
we are citing so many scriptures, like Srimad-Bhagavatam and
Bhagavad-Gita? Just to remember."
"Just to remember?" The devotee inquisitively replies,
"Yes to remember something's you forget",
Srila Prabhupada explains in his heavy Indian accented English, and
then continues.
"But if I tell you repeatedly; you hear; you remember. Is it not?
Here is something you have forgotten completely, and I remind you
constantly. Then don't you remember?"
"Yes, but I don't understand how it is that we 'forgot it' . . .
How can we 'remember' since I have no memory of being there in the
first place?" she asked.
"Forgot, you forgot."
Srila Prabhupada continued to explain patiently,
"That is your nature. You forget so many things. You cannot remember
what you were doing exactly at this time yesterday. Can you remember
immediately? Forgetfulness is our nature. We are very minute. We are
subjected to the quality of forgetfulness".
Srila Prabhupada further adds: -
"Just like Arjuna. Arjuna was asking Krishna,
'How can I believe that you told this philosophy of Bhagavad-Gita to
Vivasvan?'
"And in reply to that question, Krishna said,
'Both you and I have had many, many births before, but you have
forgotten, I remember.' That is the difference between the Supreme Lord
and us. He does not forget. He remembers everything, past, present,
future - all. But we forget. That is the difference between God and
living entity (jiva-soul). We are subjected to forgetfulness. So we
forget. Again, if it is reminded, we remember. That is our nature. At
the present moment we are forgetful of our eternal relationship with
Krishna, then, by good association, by constant chanting, hearing and
remembering, we again invoke our 'OLD' consciousness. That is
called Krishna consciousness."
Srila Prabhupada was clear when he refers to our "Old"
consciousness he meant that we were with Lord Krishna in Goloka
Vrindavan (the Kingdom of God) in our imperishable devotional eternal
atma-vigraha (atma means self, vigraha means bodily form)) Spiritual
(devotional) body that our present roaming projected consciousness
(jiva-soul or life-force) has now forgotten.
Srila Prabhupada says that we cannot argue about it, therefore, as
Prabhupada's disciples, we have to accept his final words:
"Because he falls down from 'brahma-sayujya' (another name for the
Impersonal inactive motionless Brahmajoyti), he thinks that may be his
origin; but he does not remember that before that even he was with
Krishna. Formerly we were with Krishna in His Lila or sport" (Lecture
in Australia 1972)
Srila Prabhupada can and does say that the living entity (atma-vigraha)
never actually falls from the spiritual world however the forgetful
consciousness of the living entity (The projected
jiva-soul-consciousness) can.
Paramahamsa: So we can come to the Spiritual World and return?
Srila Prabhupada: Yes.
Paramahamsa: Fall down?
Srila Prabhupada: Yes. As soon as we try, "Oh, this material world is
very nice," "Yes," Krishna says, "yes, you go." Just like nobody is
interested in Krishna consciousness. Do you think everyone is
interested? So. They want to enjoy this material world. Otherwise what
is the meaning of free will? Every living entity has got a little free
will. And Krishna is so kind, He gives him opportunity, "All right, you
enjoy like this." Just like some of our students, Krishna conscious,
sometimes go away, again come back. It is free will, not stereotyped.
Just like one goes to the prison house, not that government welcomes,
"Come on. We have got prison house. Come here, come here." He goes out
of his free will; again comes out, again goes. Like that.
(Morning Walk At Cheviot Hills Golf Course--May 13, 1973, Los Angeles)
emphases added.
It is only after the trapped embodied jiva-soul-consciousness exhausts
their attempts to enjoy independently and actively from Krishna in
their own mental thought, creations or dreams (known as the unreal or
impermanent material universe) do they seek shelter of the Impersonal
dreamless, inactive non-spiritual Brahmajoyti, that is also only a
temporary illusionary dream-state or resting place that is not real. In
other words, they deny (forget) the existence of their eternal bodily
Krishna Conscious character and form known in Sanskrit as their
original and only existent Krishna Conscious self or
'nitya-siddha-svarupa-sat-cit-ananda-atma-vigraha' body.
Even without any knowledge of Krishna, or our own real eternal
individual Krishna Conscious bodily Spiritual form, the projected
jiva-soul-consciousness is always eternally connected to the perpetual
Krishna Conscious atma-vigraha body in Krishna's Kingdom. Due to
forgetfulness, the jiva-soul-consciousness is unaware of this
connection to ones real bodily form while transmitting forgetful dreams
into the material illusionary universe, or, due to becoming frustrated
with the material universe, transmitting or projecting a non-dream
known as the Brahmajoyti - just another illusion the
jiva-soul-consciousness creates while forgetful of their Krishna
Conscious body.
Unfortunately it is difficult to understand that the various ethereal
bodies (heavenly and hellish) as well as the ethereal bodies extended
biological container with all their identities and personalities the
forgetful-jiva-soul-consciousness has created in the material temporary
world, is actually a dream-state formed and transmitted from ones
forgetful atma-vigraha body in the Kingdom of God. This happens as soon
as one forgets Krishna with non-Krishna Conscious thoughts. Technically
there is no substance to the jiva-soul because it is only transmitted
consciousness. The Vedas talk about the jiva entering the material
universe, therefore what is written here must be the correct
understanding of the Sanskrit word jiva, meaning consciousness
transmitted from its eternal Krishna Conscious atma-vigraha personality
in Krishna's abode known as Goloka-Vrindavan or the Kingdom of God
that is always serving the Supreme Atma-Vigraha and maintainer of all
creation.
Forgetting Krishna has a twofold effect. By forgetting Krishna one also
forgets their real eternal Krishna Conscious body they serve Krishna
with, that's when the jiva-soul-dreaming consciousness begins to be
transmitted, creating unlimited identities and personalities in the
illusionary dreaming universe.
The origin of the transmitted jiva-soul consciousness is the Krishna
Conscious atma-vigraha Krishna Conscious body. All jiva-souls originate
from a Krishna Conscious atma-vigraha origin.
The forgetful Krishna Consciousness of the individual atma-vigraha
bodies in Goloka-Vrindavan, is called the televised transmitted
jiva-soul-consciousness that reverberates sub-conscious thoughts of
non-Krishna Consciousness desires that broadcast the
realism-dream-state-illusion of the impermanent material universe.
Such thoughts or dreams are echoed or broadcasted as ones transmutable
forgetful consciousness that emanate from ones real and only perpetual
atma-vigraha body - those thoughts, or echoed consciousness is the
jiva-soul-consciousness.