Wrong details in Form 2

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Sharad Tyagi

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Apr 11, 2011, 11:39:17 PM4/11/11
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Dear Friends,

Please help me out in advising procedure for rectification in details of types of shares (List of allot tees) filed with ROC along with Form 2. Form 2 are already approved.

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Sharad Tyagi

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Apr 12, 2011, 12:38:33 AM4/12/11
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Thanks Tanya, but could you please suggest which form we can use this purpose, will Form 61 do for this rectification of mistake

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Tanya Karamchandani <csta...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Sharad,
 
U can speak to ROC office for this, they will let u know what to be done in this case. Else u can also write a request letter to ROC office for rectifying the mistake and alongwith that send a correct list of allotees and ask them to approve the same. also u have to give reason for such mistake in the letter.
 
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CS Tanya

Sharad Tyagi

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Apr 12, 2011, 12:40:28 AM4/12/11
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Dear Mr. Joshi,


Thanks a lot for your mail, but it appears that if we file revised form 2 it will shoot up our paid up capital again.

Sharad Tyagi

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Apr 12, 2011, 12:41:45 AM4/12/11
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Dear Friends,

Please advice if Form 61 alongwith a clarification letter will be sufficient for this purpose.

CS Pinkush Jaiswal

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Apr 12, 2011, 1:58:50 AM4/12/11
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Dear All,
 
I have been through same thing. but what  we did is we have filed form 2 again attaching the board resolution plus letter stating the reason for such erorr and asked them rectification  in earlier filed form 2 giving details abt SRN also.
 
we have recieved their approval within week.

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Manoj Singh Bisht <csmano...@gmail.com> wrote:
FORM 61 cannot be filed without form being taken into resubmission by the ROC.

U have to submit hard copies of correct list of allotment alongwith a letter stating that the mistake occured in filing the eform.

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Manoj Bisht
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Sharad Tyagi

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Apr 12, 2011, 2:02:08 AM4/12/11
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Sir, I think for filing Form 61 there is no requirement for resubmission, it can be filed independaently

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Manoj Singh Bisht <csmano...@gmail.com> wrote:
FORM 61 cannot be filed without form being taken into resubmission by the ROC.

U have to submit hard copies of correct list of allotment alongwith a letter stating that the mistake occured in filing the eform.

Regards
Manoj Bisht
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CS Manoj Singh Bisht
Proprietor 
MSB & Associates
Company Secretaries
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Opp. Mahila N Bank
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Nagpur - 440 010
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Sharad Tyagi

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Apr 12, 2011, 2:03:00 AM4/12/11
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Dear Pinkush,

Please clarify how yo managed the paid up capital status, could you please share that Form 2

Sharad Tyagi

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Apr 12, 2011, 2:12:31 AM4/12/11
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Hi Pinkush, But I think it will raise paid up capital again

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sharad,
wat we actually made rectification was of date like it was 30/04/2010 but we wrote 30/03/2010. we have attached the BResoltn and filed same form 2 with this resolution.

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Nitin Jain

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Apr 12, 2011, 2:17:23 AM4/12/11
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Dear Piyush,
 
I also think that this will increase the paid up capital of the company. Morever while filing the form 2 again the capital stated in form 2 is in excess of authorised capital system will not accept the form 2.
 
So, i am also interested to know that how the rectification has done without effecting the paid up capital.
 
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CS Nitin Jain

NITESH JAIN

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Apr 12, 2011, 2:22:36 AM4/12/11
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I think you should file New Form 2 with details same as earlier such as date of allotment, no. of shares with rectification in type of shares. In the paid up capital columns in New Form 2 fill the paid up capital as stood in the previous Form 2, then I think paid up capital will not increase. 


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Nitin Jain

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Apr 12, 2011, 2:24:28 AM4/12/11
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Dear Nitesh Ji,
 
I think the moment system accept the form No. 2 it will automatically increase the paid up capital. So in my view it is not a right course of action to be adopted.
 
Correct me if i am wrong.
 
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CS Nitin Jain

Manoj Singh Bisht

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Apr 12, 2011, 2:28:02 AM4/12/11
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sorry it was form 67 i was talking about n not 61.

CS Pinkush Jaiswal

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Apr 12, 2011, 2:28:24 AM4/12/11
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what nitesh just stated now has been done by me. and i got approval too.

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Nitin Jain <nitinj...@gmail.com> wrote:

NITESH JAIN

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Apr 12, 2011, 2:33:49 AM4/12/11
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I think thai will work because system take the paid up capital as stated in paid up capital breakup after allotment.

poonam chauhan

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Apr 12, 2011, 2:35:13 AM4/12/11
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Dear All,

the revised form would be filed by attaching the Board Resolution giving the reason of revision, and the correct details would be filled, I donot think that revision form would not increase the paid up capital.
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Poonam Chauhan
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NITESH JAIN

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Apr 12, 2011, 2:44:02 AM4/12/11
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No system will accept the Form. As in many cases balance sheet & annual return is filed first and paidup capital in MCA Data is updated on the basis of 20B & 23AC/ACA without filing Form 2. Filing of Form 2 with date with same paid up  do not cause problem.

Viral Sanghavi & Associates

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Apr 12, 2011, 3:13:25 AM4/12/11
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Dear friends

The Coloums of Auth Cap, Paid-up Cap and all in Form 2, are given so that when the form 2 gets approved, the MCA system will change the auth and paidup cap accordingly.

So even though you file the revised Form 2, with the same Capital details as in old form 2, the system will not "double" the amount, the amount written in the latest form approved, will be final auth and paid up capital for the system.

So dont worry about auth and paid-up capital getting double. Just file the form, and after approval, the auth and paid-up written in the form, will be final for the "System"

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CS Pinkush Jaiswal

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Apr 12, 2011, 3:15:31 AM4/12/11
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I DO AGREE WID VIRAL JI

Sharad Tyagi

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Apr 12, 2011, 3:31:33 AM4/12/11
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Thanks a lot to all for your help and advice in this regard, can we do so even there are 3-4 form2 to be rectified for the same company

NITESH JAIN

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Apr 12, 2011, 3:53:56 AM4/12/11
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Was there was common mistake in all the Form 2 i.e. type of shares and whether same mistake is also appeared in annual return.
I think that in such case filing 2-3 revised would not be good idea. Instead You can write a letter to ROC abt the mistake with physical copy of rectified Form 2 and Board resolutions by registered post, keep a copy of  post receipt for record purpose. At the time of filing Annual Return fill correct data.

Sharad Tyagi

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Apr 13, 2011, 2:44:50 AM4/13/11
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Dear Pinkush,

Can you please share draft board resolution for rectification of that mistake

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FCS Sharad Tyagi
T. Sharad & Associates
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