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Isuddenly started getting the message below after uploading a sketch (2.0 beta 5). I have no idea what I did to turn this on, or how to turn it off. Restarting the IDE or powering down the Arduino Leonardo does not turn the message off. However, I do not get this message if I switch to an Arduino Uno, so I must have turned something on in the Arduino Leonardo.

Thanks for any help,

Al

Compilation complete.

Connecting to programmer: .

Found programmer: Id = "CATERIN"; type = S

However, I would recommend leaving verbose output during upload on. The reason is that it provides some feedback on the progress of the upload during a successful upload, and essential information for troubleshooting a failed upload. So it's always useful.

Unlike the upload output, I don't recommend people to leave the verbose compilation output turned on all the time. The reason is that it generates a huge amount of output that isn't really very useful, except for rare cases where you need to troubleshoot the Arduino IDE's compilation functionality itself, not problems with your code. All that output makes it more difficult to read the useful compiler warning or error messages.

Thanks for the reply.

Verbose output is off, I've checked that a number of times. I've also tried uninstalling and reinstalling the IDE, but the verbose output persists. There probably is a preferences txt or ini file somewhere that has the verbose output set and is not responding to the normal preferences setting. Verify after upload is also off although I did try turning that on for a short while at one point. While I agree it might be good to have the verbose output on at times, I'd like to be able to control it. Perhaps there is a bug in beta 5?

Al

Can someone explain when you would expect to see the message below? What is connecting to what programmer? I get the impression you would see this message if setting up to either reprogram the Leonardo's Boot Loader perhaps, or if the Leonardo was going to be used as a programmer for another Arduino's Boot Loader. I have no experience with programming Boot Loaders but maybe I somehow got the Leonardo into a programming mode. If so, then maybe I can figure out how to get it out of that mode.

Thanks,

Al

It turns out that the odd behavior is that of the classic Arduino IDE. If you run the same non-verbose (uses the "-q -q" quiet flags) avrdude command the IDE runs directly from the command line, you will also get this fragment of output. The IDE should output whatever is produced by the upload tool, so it is expected that this output would be shown. The reason why AVRDUDE generates this odd bit of output in double quiet mode is certainly a mystery, but that is not so much under Arduino's control since AVRDUDE is not developed by Arduino.

I suspect that some special code was added to the classic Arduino IDE at some point in the ancient past to suppress this output, which is the reason for the odd behavior. It's not a matter of suppressing all upload tool output when in non-verbose mode though because the classic IDE does show output from other boards platforms that are configured to output some less verbose output during the upload.

[SOLVED] Same error, with different boards. The error was the sketch directoy was on a oneDrive Documents file ( i hate oneDrive, and it was set as the directory itself ) your problem has'nt to be Onedrive, but check this : Go on the Arduino IDE File - Preferences , and if the 'OK' button can't be checked you have a problem, change your Sketchbook Location on the top of the preferencies window and The problem should be fixed, if not, check the Show Verbose output boxes and click 'OK'. I hope this Helps somebody like me.

I can confirm that the error still happens. I'm using a Leonardo clone from Makeblock (hobby robot kit). The board is called "Me-BaseBoard v1.1". In Arduino 1.8.19 it's working great. No errors. In Arduino version 2.0.3 you'll get the output listed below when uploading.

As @sterretje says " it's not an issue" since the code is actually being uploaded. To see this - go to File > Preferences and turn on verbose output during compile and upload, you will see that the entire upload process completes and the device is being programmed despite this message. So yeah - just ignore this message.

For some reason, the developers of the AVRDUDE uploader tool decided this information was useful enough to the user that it should be printed even when the verbose output is not enabled. It is not clear to me whether the information could be useful to those who use AVRDUDE directly from the command line, but it surely isn't anything of interest to the average Arduino IDE user. But this is a 3rd party tool, so we take it as it comes as long as there isn't a serious defect.

I just wanted to be sure that future users that search for this (first result on Goog) get a good reply telling them clearly that it's not an error and that their code is indeed uploading despite the message.

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I worked for about 11 years in companies that didn't use source control. We managed (mostly by commenting changes and keeping code on a central server that could be recovered to any date). We never really asked whether there was a better way. That said, this was also in the days when I had the entire MSDN library in book form on my desk.

I struggle to see how you can spend 10+ years in the industry now without having run into source control. But, I would have some sympathy, I would believe it was possible and I wouldn't reject the candidate on that one detail alone. I would probe and find out how the candidate has managed this.

Alternatively, I might question whether my interview process was the problem. In what way was he the best candidate? Are there other modern programming techniques that he doesn't have that I'm just not asking the right questions for? If I were asking the right questions, would another candidate shine?

I think it depends on his attitude. If he is a very experienced programmer, and a good programmer, I think he would be able to pick up a version control system quickly. He may talk about it in two ways:

I've never used version control, but I'm very excited to learn, and it seems like it would really help make development more efficient. I haven't needed it as much because I've worked on projects alone. Bad

Version control software in the Windows/PC world was often unreliable in the early-mid 90's. Visual Sourcesafe (VSS) was about the best Windows based one around but it could be quirky and many programmers hated it. Some teams simply wouldn't entertain their use after dealing with this situation.

Most other VCS options at the time weren't Windows based and, therefore, were rarely used in Windows development teams. Some of these were expensive solutions and open source solutions weren't as accepted as readily as they are today.

In many cases, during the late 90's, early 00's, if a Windows team didn't use VSS, they didn't use anything for source control aside from in-house conventions. A number of them still don't use a VCS in spite of the sophistication of Team Foundation Server (TFS) and great free options like git and SVN.

It's possible that someone who worked for years in a small Windows development team for years to have not used a VCS. I've interviewed at and even done contract work at some places that didn't use them or that were very haphazard about their use.

So, I don't think your candidate's lack of experience in this area is a definite 'no' but you probably want to delve more into their previous work situation to find out why this is missing from their experience. You'll also want to explore their attitude toward version control. Do they think it's a good idea but they weren't allowed to pursue it at their previous position or do they think it's a waste of time?

There is no excuse for not using version control, even for a small project developed by single developer. Setting up local version control is beyond trivial, benefits huge. Any developer not knowing that cannot be considered good nor experienced.

Seems like a red flag alright, but dig deeper into why he hasn't used it. I would still expect a solo developer to use version control especially in ten years but I'd be more forgiving of it than if he was working in a team and never even tried to bring in version control.

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