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mmi...@gmail.com
Feb 12, 2008, 7:39:22 PM2/12/08
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Guys,
Any ideas about how to find "new blood" to the group? I have couple of
people in the office who should be joining but what about outside our
(small) circle?
Any ideas about how to find "new blood" to the group? I have couple of
people in the office who should be joining but what about outside our
(small) circle?
timmytimeless
Feb 13, 2008, 9:46:47 AM2/13/08
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Just some quick ideas:
-We could propose to HR Inc (and other HR agencies) that they
recommend job seekers in IT to participate in our meetings.
-We might ask Ken White from www.bongthom.com a favor and see if he's
willing to place an add in relevant sections of bongthom.com.
-Submit a one-liner to Cambodia Daily for placements in their "ongoing
events" section (published on Thursdays I believe).
-Ask ICT:CAM to send out a message to its members.
-How about an announcement on YP Cambodia in the Software Consultants
and Web Design sections ;-).
-We could propose to HR Inc (and other HR agencies) that they
recommend job seekers in IT to participate in our meetings.
-We might ask Ken White from www.bongthom.com a favor and see if he's
willing to place an add in relevant sections of bongthom.com.
-Submit a one-liner to Cambodia Daily for placements in their "ongoing
events" section (published on Thursdays I believe).
-Ask ICT:CAM to send out a message to its members.
-How about an announcement on YP Cambodia in the Software Consultants
and Web Design sections ;-).
Miika Makinen
Feb 15, 2008, 3:22:21 AM2/15/08
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Good ideas. I can take care of the YP, though don't know if programmers
read it (it's about marketing your business...). I'll can put a text ad
there, any text ideas? Or a banner ad if somebody wants to do one...
I believe it's good time now as soon we will need to start from beginning with the patterns. If there's enough new blood we could even try to separate into two weekly meetings: one going through GoF from beginning and the second continuing to some other things. Or have two concurrent groups (though need a bigger place than freebird then). It could be useful though to have one meeting during daytime, e.g. without beer... another idea is to make a round in khmer language (sereyvath, I think you could be "leading" this to get started).
I believe it's good time now as soon we will need to start from beginning with the patterns. If there's enough new blood we could even try to separate into two weekly meetings: one going through GoF from beginning and the second continuing to some other things. Or have two concurrent groups (though need a bigger place than freebird then). It could be useful though to have one meeting during daytime, e.g. without beer... another idea is to make a round in khmer language (sereyvath, I think you could be "leading" this to get started).
timmytimeless
Feb 15, 2008, 6:01:47 AM2/15/08
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Hi Miika,
Surely agreed on the timing issue. And the beer thing as well in
fact ;-).
I have been thinking about a Khmer version of the group but am
wondering whether it is a good or a bad thing. Here my thoughts:
Good:
-Native language makes it easier to clarify questions
Not so good:
-No materials in Khmer (could be written but am sure nobody will be
able to find the time for it...).
-Splitting Khmer and English "groups" creates some sort of a
seperation, which does not promote sharing ideas. I like the idea of
sharing ideas with as many people as possible without exclusions.
-Everyone should have decent English in order to work on advanced
programming topics
Alternatively, we could after the formal part of each session is done,
have an oportunity for asking questions in Khmer?
Comments/suggestions on this topic appreciated.
On Feb 15, 3:22 pm, "Miika Makinen" <mmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Good ideas. I can take care of the YP, though don't know if programmers read
> it (it's about marketing your business...). I'll can put a text ad there,
> any text ideas? Or a banner ad if somebody wants to do one...
>
> I believe it's good time now as soon we will need to start from beginning
> with the patterns. If there's enough new blood we could even try to separate
> into two weekly meetings: one going through GoF from beginning and the
> second continuing to some other things. Or have two concurrent groups
> (though need a bigger place than freebird then). It could be useful though
> to have one meeting during daytime, e.g. without beer... another idea is to
> make a round in khmer language (sereyvath, I think you could be "leading"
> this to get started).
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Surely agreed on the timing issue. And the beer thing as well in
fact ;-).
I have been thinking about a Khmer version of the group but am
wondering whether it is a good or a bad thing. Here my thoughts:
Good:
-Native language makes it easier to clarify questions
Not so good:
-No materials in Khmer (could be written but am sure nobody will be
able to find the time for it...).
-Splitting Khmer and English "groups" creates some sort of a
seperation, which does not promote sharing ideas. I like the idea of
sharing ideas with as many people as possible without exclusions.
-Everyone should have decent English in order to work on advanced
programming topics
Alternatively, we could after the formal part of each session is done,
have an oportunity for asking questions in Khmer?
Comments/suggestions on this topic appreciated.
On Feb 15, 3:22 pm, "Miika Makinen" <mmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Good ideas. I can take care of the YP, though don't know if programmers read
> it (it's about marketing your business...). I'll can put a text ad there,
> any text ideas? Or a banner ad if somebody wants to do one...
>
> I believe it's good time now as soon we will need to start from beginning
> with the patterns. If there's enough new blood we could even try to separate
> into two weekly meetings: one going through GoF from beginning and the
> second continuing to some other things. Or have two concurrent groups
> (though need a bigger place than freebird then). It could be useful though
> to have one meeting during daytime, e.g. without beer... another idea is to
> make a round in khmer language (sereyvath, I think you could be "leading"
> this to get started).
>
> On 2/13/08, timmytimeless <timmytimel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Just some quick ideas:
>
> > -We could propose to HR Inc (and other HR agencies) that they
> > recommend job seekers in IT to participate in our meetings.
> > -We might ask Ken White fromwww.bongthom.coma favor and see if he's
>
>
>
>
>
> > Just some quick ideas:
>
> > -We could propose to HR Inc (and other HR agencies) that they
> > recommend job seekers in IT to participate in our meetings.
> > willing to place an add in relevant sections of bongthom.com.
> > -Submit a one-liner to Cambodia Daily for placements in their "ongoing
> > events" section (published on Thursdays I believe).
> > -Ask ICT:CAM to send out a message to its members.
> > -How about an announcement on YP Cambodia in the Software Consultants
> > and Web Design sections ;-).
>
> > On Feb 13, 7:39 am, mmi...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Guys,
> > > Any ideas about how to find "new blood" to the group? I have couple of
> > > people in the office who should be joining but what about outside our
> > > (small) circle?- Hide quoted text -
> > -Submit a one-liner to Cambodia Daily for placements in their "ongoing
> > events" section (published on Thursdays I believe).
> > -Ask ICT:CAM to send out a message to its members.
> > -How about an announcement on YP Cambodia in the Software Consultants
> > and Web Design sections ;-).
>
> > On Feb 13, 7:39 am, mmi...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Guys,
> > > Any ideas about how to find "new blood" to the group? I have couple of
> > > people in the office who should be joining but what about outside our
>
> - Show quoted text -
Miika Makinen
Feb 15, 2008, 6:57:10 AM2/15/08
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Sure, sharing is good. It's kind of "up to us" or more like up to Khmer
speaking members of the group. Also all this is related to what do we do
after first round of GoF is done... and depends a lot on how many new people
there are. The idea about dividing somehow I think can be good as then
everybody can be jumping between groups as they wish (join this week the GoF
group and next week the "other topics" group). Of course only possible if we
have enough people and helpful if every week both of these sessions have at
least one from the "seniors".
Btw, I put some text ads now to couple of selected classification pages on YP cambodia and made a blog entry also on my personal blog... and also invited some people to this list who were included in our mails in the beginning but never came. Just asking again :)
speaking members of the group. Also all this is related to what do we do
after first round of GoF is done... and depends a lot on how many new people
there are. The idea about dividing somehow I think can be good as then
everybody can be jumping between groups as they wish (join this week the GoF
group and next week the "other topics" group). Of course only possible if we
have enough people and helpful if every week both of these sessions have at
least one from the "seniors".
Btw, I put some text ads now to couple of selected classification pages on YP cambodia and made a blog entry also on my personal blog... and also invited some people to this list who were included in our mails in the beginning but never came. Just asking again :)
Miika
Feb 15, 2008, 11:15:23 PM2/15/08
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About the time of the meetings. I find these topics (learning OO!) so
important that I would happily allow my staff to join a meeting during
working hours. Any opinions?
On Feb 15, 6:57 pm, "Miika Makinen" <mmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sure, sharing is good. It's kind of "up to us" or more like up to Khmer
> speaking members of the group. Also all this is related to what do we do
> after first round of GoF is done... and depends a lot on how many new people
> there are. The idea about dividing somehow I think can be good as then
> everybody can be jumping between groups as they wish (join this week the GoF
> group and next week the "other topics" group). Of course only possible if we
> have enough people and helpful if every week both of these sessions have at
> least one from the "seniors".
>
> Btw, I put some text ads now to couple of selected classification pages on
> YP cambodia and made a blog entry also on my personal blog... and also
> invited some people to this list who were included in our mails in the
> beginning but never came. Just asking again :)
>
> > > > -We might ask Ken White fromwww.bongthom.comafavor and see if he's
important that I would happily allow my staff to join a meeting during
working hours. Any opinions?
On Feb 15, 6:57 pm, "Miika Makinen" <mmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sure, sharing is good. It's kind of "up to us" or more like up to Khmer
> speaking members of the group. Also all this is related to what do we do
> after first round of GoF is done... and depends a lot on how many new people
> there are. The idea about dividing somehow I think can be good as then
> everybody can be jumping between groups as they wish (join this week the GoF
> group and next week the "other topics" group). Of course only possible if we
> have enough people and helpful if every week both of these sessions have at
> least one from the "seniors".
>
> Btw, I put some text ads now to couple of selected classification pages on
> YP cambodia and made a blog entry also on my personal blog... and also
> invited some people to this list who were included in our mails in the
> beginning but never came. Just asking again :)
>
Miika
Feb 15, 2008, 11:34:02 PM2/15/08
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I'm on a mission now :) I'll fax this to be included in cambodia daily
friday calendar if nobody opposes:
Pragmatic Programmers
Discussing OO patterns and practices Tuesdays 18pm at Freebird Bar
(#69, st. 240). Information: http://groups.google.com/group/ppppkh
> > > > > -We might ask Ken White fromwww.bongthom.comafavorand see if he's
friday calendar if nobody opposes:
Pragmatic Programmers
Discussing OO patterns and practices Tuesdays 18pm at Freebird Bar
(#69, st. 240). Information: http://groups.google.com/group/ppppkh
timmytimeless
Feb 16, 2008, 7:09:03 AM2/16/08
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Hi,
Thanks for all the work Miika. I will contact ICT:CAM on Monday and
see what they can do for us.
> > > > > > -We might ask Ken White fromwww.bongthom.comafavorandsee if he's
Thanks for all the work Miika. I will contact ICT:CAM on Monday and
see what they can do for us.
>
> > > > > > willing to place an add in relevant sections of bongthom.com.
> > > > > > -Submit a one-liner to Cambodia Daily for placements in their "ongoing
> > > > > > events" section (published on Thursdays I believe).
> > > > > > -Ask ICT:CAM to send out a message to its members.
> > > > > > -How about an announcement on YP Cambodia in the Software Consultants
> > > > > > and Web Design sections ;-).
>
> > > > > > On Feb 13, 7:39 am, mmi...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > Guys,
> > > > > > > Any ideas about how to find "new blood" to the group? I have couple
> > > > of
> > > > > > > people in the office who should be joining but what about outside
> > > > our
>
> > > > > > > (small) circle?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
> > > > > > willing to place an add in relevant sections of bongthom.com.
> > > > > > -Submit a one-liner to Cambodia Daily for placements in their "ongoing
> > > > > > events" section (published on Thursdays I believe).
> > > > > > -Ask ICT:CAM to send out a message to its members.
> > > > > > -How about an announcement on YP Cambodia in the Software Consultants
> > > > > > and Web Design sections ;-).
>
> > > > > > On Feb 13, 7:39 am, mmi...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > Guys,
> > > > > > > Any ideas about how to find "new blood" to the group? I have couple
> > > > of
> > > > > > > people in the office who should be joining but what about outside
> > > > our
>
> > > > > > > (small) circle?- Hide quoted text -
>
Miika Makinen
Feb 21, 2008, 9:40:57 PM2/21/08
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Hi guys,
There's a mention of our "club" now in Cambodia Daily calendar. Unfortunately they did not put the google group url there, but my phone number instead :( Might be that url is too long or something.
Does anybody oppose to me putting up a page on my personal site for us? For example 4p.khmerang.com? Could be shorter to write than the google group url, plus we can format the page as we wish...
Miika
There's a mention of our "club" now in Cambodia Daily calendar. Unfortunately they did not put the google group url there, but my phone number instead :( Might be that url is too long or something.
Does anybody oppose to me putting up a page on my personal site for us? For example 4p.khmerang.com? Could be shorter to write than the google group url, plus we can format the page as we wish...
Miika
Tim
Feb 25, 2008, 4:23:03 PM2/25/08
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Great that the ad is posted, curious to see what the reactions will
be. Go ahead with the personal page I would say. Alternatively you
could use your gmail address which is also pretty short. Apologies for
not being more pro-active on this group at the moment, too busy a the
moment...
On Feb 22, 9:40 am, "Miika Makinen" <mmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi guys,
> There's a mention of our "club" now in Cambodia Daily calendar.
> Unfortunately they did not put the google group url there, but my phone
> number instead :( Might be that url is too long or something.
>
> Does anybody oppose to me putting up a page on my personal site for us? For
> example 4p.khmerang.com? Could be shorter to write than the google group
> url, plus we can format the page as we wish...
>
> Miika
>
be. Go ahead with the personal page I would say. Alternatively you
could use your gmail address which is also pretty short. Apologies for
not being more pro-active on this group at the moment, too busy a the
moment...
On Feb 22, 9:40 am, "Miika Makinen" <mmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi guys,
> There's a mention of our "club" now in Cambodia Daily calendar.
> Unfortunately they did not put the google group url there, but my phone
> number instead :( Might be that url is too long or something.
>
> Does anybody oppose to me putting up a page on my personal site for us? For
> example 4p.khmerang.com? Could be shorter to write than the google group
> url, plus we can format the page as we wish...
>
> Miika
>
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