compulsory donation

[Trina Lorenzo-Molo]

To parent reps:

I'd just like to know the sanctions for not buying a bingo booklet as it is stipulated in the letter that "we are requiring each student to purchase a booklet" and that we should consider it a "compulsory donation". Will my daughters get lower grades as a consequence? Lower conduct? It would be nice and helpful to know as it is compulsory.

Many thanks.

Trina

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Caterina F. Lorenzo-Molo, PhD
School of Communication
University of Asia and the Pacific

[Renato Sunico]

Hi Trina,

To be honest, the PPA did not anticipate the need to give any sanctions to promote participation in the Family Day. It was assumed that to say compulsory is to encourage participation. I'm quite positive that sanctions are not part of the Family Day plan, it is intended to be fun afterall.

 

For those who would not want to buy the ticket, the option is to sell it to someone who would be interested to donate and play Bingo, this way we are all able to contribute to the fundraising effort. If we do not know anyone who will be interested, we may sell the tickets at the "extra tickets" booth that will be at the Lanuza Lobby on Bingo day. The parent reps manning the booth would allow us to sell the unsold tickets beside them, therefore the effort to find a buyer still comes from us making the donation our own effort still. 

 

The PPA hopes that everyone will come and join the Bingo on Family Day. There will be good prizes and it will be a good time to spend a day with your family and the families of your children's friends.

 

See you there!

 

Mr. Sun Kiddie Partycom, Inc.
www.kiddie-party.com

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[Trina Lorenzo-Molo]

Thank you, Karen for the speedy reply. I'd like to note though that 'compulsory' is a word that does not connote encouragement but coercion, as its definition stipulates. If the PPA wanted to encourage participation, then the word 'encourage' would've been more apt. It's the same with the use of the phrase 'we are requiring'--as failure to fulfill requirement implies a sanction--as most failures to comply often do; and given the school setting of kids being graded, it was the most logical thing for me to conclude, as this is our context. 

Just to further clarify--so the PPA is requiring us to come up with the fund for donation--whether as a required donation from us or from our act of selling the booklet to someone else. As the use of the words 'compulsory' and 'require' in this particular situation, seems to be not of the norm, the need to clarify is most urgent. I would like to understand very well what it is the letter is asking of us; and if we still decide to not find a buyer for the booklet or attempt to do so but fail to find a buyer (as it is required and a compulsory), then what are the sanctions? One of my daughters, for instance, was given the impression that her grades would be affected. If words such as 'required' and 'compulsory' are going to be used in a different way, then the burden of redefining the terms for better reception is quite important.

I hope you can clarify this for us.

Thank you.

Trina

[Renato Sunico]

Hi Trina, more than coercion and requirement, PPA's use of "compulsory" is of the gentle nature to mean necessary. It is necessary that in a fundraising everyone puts their effort to help. The operative word being everyone and not just a handful of parents. And if everyone's effort is necessary to make the fundraising effort work, wouldn't you want to make it compulsory?

 

Bottomline is PPA is asking for everyone's HELP in this project. We are all parents and we all belong to the PPA. It is necessary for us to participate to make our own association's project successful. The hope is to convey to everyone that each parent's effort is vital to help the association achieve its goals.

 

Again, PPA does not intend to punish anyone who does not sell their tickets. What PPA is asking for is our help and support, i.e. in the form of buying the tickets or selling them or maybe just to help promote the Family Day. It would have been simpler if everyone supported the Family Day without having the need to make it compulsory, but the sad reality is we need to point out the necessity of each parent's participation in order to acquire support.  

 

I hope you understand.

 

Karen 

Mr. Sun Kiddie Partycom, Inc.
www.kiddie-party.com

From: Trina Lorenzo-Molo <loren...@gmail.com>
To: PovedaParentsBatch2017 <povedaparen...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: compulsory donation

Thank you, Karen for the speedy reply. I'd like to note though that 'compulsory' is a word that does not connote encouragement but coercion, as its definition stipulates. If the PPA wanted to encourage participation, then the word 'encourage' would've been more apt. It's the same with the use of the phrase 'we are requiring'--as failure to fulfill requirement implies a sanction--as most failures to comply often do; and given the school setting of kids being graded, it was the most logical thing for me to conclude, as this is our context. 

Just to further clarify--so the PPA is requiring us to come up with the fund for donation--whether as a required donation from us or from our act of selling the booklet to someone else. As the use of the words 'compulsory' and 'require' in this particular situation, seems to be not of the norm, the need to clarify is most urgent. I would like to understand very well what it is the letter is asking of us; and if we still decide to not find a buyer for the booklet or attempt to do so but fail to find a buyer (as it is required and a compulsory), then what are the sanctions? One of my daughters, for instance, was given the impression that her grades would be affected. If words such as 'required' and 'compulsory' are going to be used in a different way, then the burden of redefining the terms for better reception is quite important.

I hope you can clarify this for us.

Thank you.

Trina

On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Renato Sunico <kiddi...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi Trina,

To be honest, the PPA did not anticipate the need to give any sanctions to promote participation in the Family Day. It was assumed that to say compulsory is to encourage participation. I'm quite positive that sanctions are not part of the Family Day plan, it is intended to be fun afterall.

 

For those who would not want to buy the ticket, the option is to sell it to someone who would be interested to donate and play Bingo, this way we are all able to contribute to the fundraising effort. If we do not know anyone who will be interested, we may sell the tickets at the "extra tickets" booth that will be at the Lanuza Lobby on Bingo day. The parent reps manning the booth would allow us to sell the unsold tickets beside them, therefore the effort to find a buyer still comes from us making the donation our own effort still. 

 

The PPA hopes that everyone will come and join the Bingo on Family Day. There will be good prizes and it will be a good time to spend a day with your family and the families of your children's friends.

 

See you there!

 

Mr. Sun Kiddie Partycom, Inc.

http://www.kiddie-party.com/

From: Trina Lorenzo-Molo <loren...@gmail.com>
To: PovedaParentsBatch2017 <povedaparen...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 7:05 PM
Subject: compulsory donation

To parent reps:

I'd just like to know the sanctions for not buying a bingo booklet as it is stipulated in the letter that "we are requiring each student to purchase a booklet" and that we should consider it a "compulsory donation". Will my daughters get lower grades as a consequence? Lower conduct? It would be nice and helpful to know as it is compulsory.

Many thanks.

Trina

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School of Communication
University of Asia and the Pacific

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[Trina Lorenzo-Molo]

Dear Karen,

That explanation sounds so much better. Honestly, saying "Consider this your compulsory donation" just doesn't sound very good. And preceded by "we are requiring students" makes it worse. I understand where you are coming from as it is true that Family Day is not well supported by parents; but the words you used in your latest explanation, I think, would've had exactly the effect you want--to actually get more people to support the event. 

I hope that PPA just thinks about the tone and posturing of the letter and considers writing another one containing what you just said. I suspect more parents will warm up.

Thank you.

Trina

[Trina LorenzoMolo]

Accountability is one of the marks of good leadership. 'Compulsory donation' is an oxymoron. Its inappropriateness is quite obvious and thus, needed to be pointed out. Flak is a term that is also inappropriate in organizational settings as this group is. We hope we can be more professional and prudent in the future.

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On Jan 29, 2014, at 8:07 AM, Isa Mathay <isam...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Oh wow, Karen! 

I'm sorry you had to get this flak! Thanks though for forwarding this feedback. Going through the thread left me momentarily stupefied.

It's miserable enough that we had to use the word "compulsory", it's even worse to have to point out why! 

Thank you for your patience and diplomacy. Meanwhile, Let's remain focused and headstrong in the goals the rest of our co-parents entrusted with us :) 

Best regards!

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[Trina LorenzoMolo]

Dear Parents,

We'd just like to let you know that the seemingly heated exchange you just witnessed is not heated at all. We've talked about it and understand each other. These things happen but we can all always be one and help one another in our efforts to ensure a very good school experience for our children and co-parents. I'd also like to add that work as a parent volunteer is quite difficult and pressures can set in. So I'd like to acknowledge those who volunteer. And yes, unlike strict organizational settings, parent associations have more leeway in diverting from the norm. Having said that, let's pray for the success of family day.