Next pdpug meeting 9/22 (possible conflict with LinuxCon / Linux Plumber's conf)
Dawn Foster
and the Linux Plumber's conference. So here's what I need from all of
you:
1) Do you plan to attend pdpug on 9/22?
2) If so, do you have any suggestions for agenda items?
Thanks,
Dawn
marcus estes
It's really pretty cool. But this is also my first pdpug attendance, so I'm not sure if it's a good fit for the group's curiosities.
marcus
brian walsh
Amber Case
marcus estes
This would be at Oracle, I'm assuming.
OpenSourcery will be happy to host as well, if needed.
marcus
Alex Williams
Alex Williams
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Amber Case
Amber Case
Bram Pitoyo
protocol! :)
Amber Case
pub, but sub. So either a substitute of the hubbub one experiences in
a pub, or a subclass of that hubbub.
On Sep 8, 2009, at 3:13 PM, Bram Pitoyo wrote:
>
> Pubsubhubbub is so tricky to pronounce, it needs its own spelling
> protocol! :)
>
> >
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
PubSubHubbub?
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pandas since 1999
Bram Pitoyo
> pub, but sub. So either a substitute of the hubbub one experiences in
> a pub, or a subclass of that hubbub.
But I tend to think of it as a pub inside a submarine!
Amber Case
of this word!
The hubbub one experiences at a pub inside a submarine makes a lot of
sense. Subs ping and ecolocate, much like we do with RSS. Also, we
drink while we do this, especially at Beer and Blog, where our RSS
constructs do our heavy social sensing work for is. So if we're all
ecolocating and pinging things, that makes our computers subs, and our
social interactions pubs, and the rusulting hubbub of that is
PubSubHubbub! (Thanks to Ed for the CamelCasing).
-Amber
marcus estes
The hubbub one experiences at a pub inside a submarine makes a lot of
sense. Subs ping and ecolocate, much like we do with RSS. Also, we
drink while we do this, especially at Beer and Blog, where our RSS
constructs do our heavy social sensing work for is. So if we're all
ecolocating and pinging things, that makes our computers subs, and our
social interactions pubs, and the rusulting hubbub of that is
PubSubHubbub! (Thanks to Ed for the CamelCasing).
Well that dead-on description of the protocol pretty much just obviated the need for my talk.
Jeez, thanks a lot Amber!
-Sent from my submarine
Bram Pitoyo
Put simply, PubSubHubbub is a pubsub (Publisher–Subscriber) messaging
protocol that extends the ATOM/RSS model (this was what “RSS 2.0” was
supposed to be, if you catch my drift.) This makes it really pertinent
to the Data Plumbing user group.
PubSubHubbub solves the real-time delivery problem (“I want the news
_right_ now” or how about “I want my lifestream to be delivered to my
friends right at this moment”) by making every ATOM or RSS file
declare a hub server.
You, as a reader, would subscribe to this hub server (the idea is
obviously to have these servers be run in a distributed and localized
manner.)
By making publishers declare a hub, subscribers can then avoid doing
the whole “asking the server directly” or “pull” action every few
minutes, which is a drain for the publisher’s server because they have
to go “no, there is nothing new” over and over again.
Instead, PubSubHubbub works by ways of “push”. Okay, we have this hub
server; so the next time a publisher post a new item, he will ping
this hub and say “hey, here’s a new item for”, and then the hub could
say “okay, thanks, now I will distribute it to all of your
subscriber’s client.”
No pulling teeth, faster delivery (well, theoretically) and everyone
is happy.
Bram Pitoyo
I will start putting this in my email signature. Just you wait.