Two Items

[Melissa Perkins]

Hi Everyone –

 

I have been following along with the emails and I wanted to let you know that I am actively working on two fronts.

 

1.       Varsity Letters – I’m trying to synthesize the emails that have been circulating regarding the omission of varsity letters to put together one cohesive synopsis for Tim Richards and Joe Kremer.  That will likely be the level that this discussion is elevated to.  For your reference, our current Athletic Director is Bruce Paro, who will likely become part of the conversation, but I believe the decision will rest with Tim.

 

2.      The sewer cover – There are two options that we are waiting on prices for, the first is a medallion cover (we may need two for the sake of symmetry) and a concrete pad which would cover the sewer cap, in other words, lowering the actual cover below the surface and placing concrete over it so that there would be no change in the terrace surface.  Tony Malagrino is expecting pricing back on both of these options by the end of this week.

 

As soon as I learn more, I will get back to the group with additional information.

 

The newest member of ’62,

Melissa

 

Melissa L. Perkins

Advancement Office

Pomfret School

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From: pomf...@googlegroups.com [mailto:pomf...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Howie Mallory
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 11:39 AM
To: pomf...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: FW: Varsity letters of omission

 

Wally many thanks for following up on this matter.  As you may recall we did discuss it a bit during one of our reunion committee calls. Although becaause of other perceived priorities , we didn't stay with it.  I for one believe that it  would be a great gesture to close the circle of the community of our class to award letters 50 years later.  As Dave Storrs lets not hold on to old issues/grudges but move on.  One thing that we don't have a lot of to waste is time. Count me in on getting P letters to those deserving. I am sure that Melissa our newest and prettiest classmate will be able to help us.
Howie

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Wally Buschmann <w...@lawweeks.com> wrote:

While this is directed more to Russ Fisher and Dave Truslow, I'm including everyone on the list.  The following communications between me and Dave Hard identify the issue.  Assuming Dave and Russ are in agreement, the suggestion is to contact the AD at Pomfret to see whether letters can still be awarded to those members of our class who were members of varsity teams during our senior year.

 

A major challenge is to identify those individuals and to see whether they are interested.  Certainly Dave is.  There is already a precedent for this since Pomfret awarded a letter in 1968 to John Bockstoce - a well deserved recognition, but one that he should have received in the spring of 1962.

 

I look forward to your thoughts.  Thanks.

 

Wally 

 

 

 

 

 

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From: David Hard [mailto:hdav...@msn.com]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 3:20 PM
To: Wally Buschmann
Cc: ralph....@sunywcc.edu; John R Bockstoce; ihma...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Varsity letters of omission

Thank you, Wally, for your support and encouragement. I really didn't expect this to move as far as it has but, given the fact that so many who were deserving didn't receive letters, I recommend that those of you who represent the '62 Athletic Committee contact the current Athletic Director at Pomfret and state our case. I think that a call out to all surviving members of our class would be sufficient in finding those who were deserving but denied. 

   Personally, I imagine that the letter (suitable for framing) plus a felt "P" would be satisfactory to all. Because I have not donated all that much to Pomfret in the past, I would be willing to cover the cost of the letters and "P"s and maybe an additional amount for our class gift. (sounds  like blackmail but rhymes with justice)

   All the best,

Dave 

 

On May 18, 2012, at 10:55 AM, Wally Buschmann <w...@lawweeks.com> wrote:

David,

 

First, I support you in this venture

 

Second, I'm at a loss as to how to proceed

 

There were several seniors on varsity teams in 1962 who did not letter.  Ralph seems to recall that there were at least 3 members of the basketball team alone.  Would it be appropriate to contact them along with any other unlettered seniors who played at the varsity level; can we even identify everyone.

 

If we are to proceed, my preference is to go down this route only once and the sooner the better.

 

I have added Howie to this conversation for his input as well.  One thought is for Russ, Dave, and I, as the class representatives of the Athletic Committee back in 1962, to make a recommendation to the current Athletic Director on this subject.  Certainly I have a responsibility as the Commodore/Captain of Crew to speak up on your behalf.

 

Your thoughts.

 

Wally

 

 

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From: John R Bockstoce [mailto:john_r_b...@msn.com]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 11:36 AM
To: hdav...@msn.com; Wally Buschmann
Cc: ralph....@sunywcc.edu
Subject: RE: Varsity letters of omission

David:
 
I'm with you on that.
 
All the best! John
 

> From: hdav...@msn.com
> To: w...@lawweeks.com
> Subject: Varsity letters of omission
> Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 08:11:09 -0700
> CC: Ralph....@sunywcc.edu; john_r_b...@msn.com
>
> Hi Wally, John & Ralph,
> So many emails flying that I missed a few....so here's catching up on one in particular.
> First, I was very pleased to hear that John finally received his letter in Crew; his hard work and win as NE Champion made us all proud.
> Second, I think that the Fourth boat was also considered NE Champions as we won every race including the field at Worcester.
> Third, it would mean a great deal to me and my late father to receive that Crew letter.
> Fourth, I thought that the silver-season Varsity B-ball team DID receive letters....I know I did as manager.
> Fifth, as I mentioned in my initial rant, I hold no one accountable for adhering to the "System" even though I had "issues" with Manny and Chic in their inflexibility. Wasn't Tony Moulton on that Committee? He was my nemesis throughout my years at Pomfret and wielded tremendous "Jock-Power".
> Sixth....One of the most exciting memories of that awesome basketball team's play was seeing little Ralph with that killer look in his eyes weaving and bobbing through a phalanx of opposing giants to make a critical basket...usually for the win! A true golden memory!
> Thanks, guys for allowing me to vent and reminisce.
> Dave
>
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[Wally Buschmann]

Dear newest member,

 

At the moment, there are a couple of individuals who have expressed an interest.  The goal is to have a final list shortly for Tim and Bruce to consider.

 

Thanks for getting involved.  While I have assumed the lead on this, but I'm not alone.  I expect the final list will be sent with the endorsement of the Class of 62.

 

Wally

 

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From: pomf...@googlegroups.com [mailto:pomf...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Melissa Perkins
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 3:41 PM
To: pomf...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Two Items

[Von-Rumohr, Cai]

I think I was on varsity soccer. I don’t think I got a letter but honestly can’t remember. But my recollection is that letters were awarded for (1) individual effort & (2) achievement. Just being a senior and making the varsity did not make one eligible for a letter. In my case, I really wasn’t good enough to think I deserved a letter.

 

My opinion is that’s as it should be. To give letters to all senior participants unfairly reduces the value of the award to those who truly were outstanding, Ralph A., etc. Also, to reopen the awarding of letters for the Class of 1962 would not be fair to all the other classes before & after 1962 that were impacted by the same standard unless those classes had similar ability to reopen past decisions. This would be a bureaucratic nightmare for the current administration.

 

 Cai

 

 

 

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[Wally Buschmann]

Herr Von-Rumohr,

 

Good points.  Alas, I hear the growl of some awakening beasts in the kennel. 

 

It would be interesting to see what today's qualifications might be. 

 

I think that John Bochstoce was overlooked by the school in the spring of 1962 even though he won the New England Regatta; interestingly, 6 years later, the school choose to recognize him with a letter.  Similarly, David Hard's accomplishment as a member of the 4th boat that went undefeated and won the New England Regatta was overlooked.  As far as I can remember, we didn't have a varsity and JV crew.  All 4 boats raced each weekend and competed at the New England Regatta.

 

Ironically, several months ago Ralph Arietta initiated the idea.  He felt strongly that these seniors had contributed to the success of their teams, especially basketball, and he felt they all deserved a letter back in 1962.  Without live bodies on the floor for practice, Manny would have been hard pressed to get his team prepared for the season.  It's that kind of recognition by Ralphie to his own players that made him such an outstanding coach and mentor to his teams.

 

I am more than willing to present the idea to Tim Richards on behalf of those seniors who would welcome this recognition.

 

Sehr gut, nicht wahr?

 

Wally

 

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From: pomf...@googlegroups.com [mailto:pomf...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Von-Rumohr, Cai
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 4:04 PM
To: 'pomf...@googlegroups.com'
Subject: Let Sleeping Dogs Lie

[Toby Condliffe]

I earned a varsity letter in wrestling my senior year.  My personal record was 5-4 but I was proud that my five wins were all pins and my four losses were all decisions, i.e. I was never pinned.  Prior to earning my letter, I do remember, particularly on dance weekends, feeling acutely aware that I had not won a letter.  My letter came at the end of the winter term, I.e. with only one term left to wear my letter and no girls left to impress with it.

Under the new criteria that is now being suggested, I might have won a letter in soccer my senior year.  I was on the varsity, playing second string right wing.  I got some playing time but obviously not enough to letter.  Frankly, being awarded a letter in soccer at this point in my life would not mean a lot.  I am married to the only girl I want to impress and a letter would not make any difference to her.

If the new criteria were to award a letter to anyone who played on a varsity team in their senior year, then it logically should be applied to everyone in all classes requiring some considerable research effort by the alumni office.  I have no problem with the notion that Manny was "old school" and that the standards he set were rigid.  That's the way it was.  I doubt that a retroactive letter would undo the hurt that some may have felt.  I'd like to think the alumni office has more important tasks to do that all the research that would be needed to do this right.  If those who feel agreeved want a letter awarded to them based on a revised criteria, that's fine but I, for one, am happy to have been judged by the criteria of the day.

I'm with Cai on this.  History should - can not - be rewritten.

Toby

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[David Storrs]

I lean to Cai's view.  To go 50 years without a letter and then ask for one seems like a long statute of limitations.  In the interest of good alumni and donor relations, Pomfret might want to make some accomodation - an honorary letter? - but I don't think we should claim our classmates are "owed" a letter and Pomfret should acknowledge an error that long-dead teachers and coaches made half a century ago.  After all, on several of my English papers, I got a B when I should have gotten an A; Harvard didn't accept me when they should have; I didn't win a sailing race because of an unfair wind shift, etc.  I wish it didn't, but shit happens and we should accept it as part of life.

Just my view,

David

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thanks, Melissa

 

what do the architects think about the two options for the sewer cover - and I am not sure that symmetry is called for - one medallion cover might be fine but I would like to hear the architects

 

and welcome, Melissa, to a wonderful class - we are glad to have you as part of us

 

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[marcus acheson]

NOW WE ARE TALKING A M E N!!! (THIS DOG DIED LONG AGO. MY GETTING THE SENIOR MATH PRIZE WAS MEANINGFUL…LETTERS??? NOT SO MUCH. regards, m a r k 

[marcus acheson]

wally i know you must have a thriving and active law practice despite all this email stuff…. but the class of '62 should not want to get over-active on trying to rewrite history 50 years in arrears just because one or two of us want to correct a perceived injustice….this could be viewed as a triumph of a few over many of its who view the importance of letters somewhat…. um... shall we say differently??? as a group, i wonder if we want to be risk being viewed as uppity, tiresome old cranks dithering around jousting at green energy windmills???

regards, m a r k 

[Michael Curtis]

Hi Melissa,

 

Re the sewer cover, I would like to acknowledge Rick and the schools' good efforts on the terrace, and the fact that things like this always show up at the last moment.

 

I'm for ordering a new (rusty) cover that says 'Champaign'.

 

Mike

[Michael Curtis]

Meant 'Champagne'!

 

Thanks,

 

Mike

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From: Melissa Perkins

To: pomf...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 3:40 PM

Subject: Two Items

[moe...@q.com]

I agree wit Cai.

 

Mo

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From: "Cai Von-Rumohr" <Cai.Von...@cowen.com>
To: "pomf...@googlegroups.com" <pomf...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 2:03:48 PM
Subject: Let Sleeping Dogs Lie

[lccra...@aol.com]

David,

Well said.  Regarding the awarding of varsity letters after the fact -  My two cents worth..."If only ifs and buts were candy and nuts, every day would be Christmas."  "Woulda, coulda, shoulda"  Let the past be the past and embrace the words of Ralph Waldo Emerson..."The reward of a thing well done is to have done it."  Enough.

Mike J.

[Rick Leslie]

Melissa and all other interested parties,

 

Thank you all for such a stimulating and enjoyable time at the reunion. I loved reconnecting with so many class mates. Laura and I have not stopped talking about all the wonderful interactions and events with such a diverse and interesting group…..and welcome to that group Melissa.

 

#2, the sewer cover: In my opinion we do not need to be concerned with symmetry. There is something more interesting in the “one of a kind”, odd location (look at the level of discussion already) and symmetry would only be false….As we discussed at the time, a bronze cast cover with a contemporary interpretation of a griffin standing on top of the numerals 62 and the four points of the compass some how integrated into that as well, seemed like a great idea…Is that what is being researched? I would be willing to do a sketch at some point if that is needed to get the idea started…..Look forward to more input.

 

Rick Leslie, A.I.A.,LEED AP

Rick Leslie Architects

15 Latimer Road

Santa Monica, CA 90402

818-909-9594

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From: pomf...@googlegroups.com [mailto:pomf...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Melissa Perkins
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 12:41 PM
To: pomf...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Two Items

 

Hi Everyone –

[Wally Buschmann]

Rick,  You've convinced me.  I like the bronze cast cover idea.  Maybe when Steven King writes his novel, the cover will be a focal point.  I can imagine the griffin rising up from its resting spot, slowly opening the cover, and releasing the spirit of the Class of 62 to roam the school on the hilltop.  Wally

 

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From: pomf...@googlegroups.com [mailto:pomf...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Leslie
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 4:26 PM
To: pomf...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sewer Cocver Discussion

[Toby Condliffe]

Should it be " 62 " or " '62 "?  I've always used an apostrophe when representing my graduating class anywhere.

As for the opening the cover to "release the spirit of 62", it is a sewer, isn't it?

Toby

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[marcus acheson]

having refrained from becoming involved in the guttural (pun implied) discourse over the sewer (not to be confused with the venerable profession known as "seamstress") and leaving the cover's particulars to rick who has done so well heretofore (having managed businesses and divisions of upwards to 25,000 people--delegation remains my preference), allow me just to hint that the steven king novel would indeed likely involve emanations from below but i am thinking more of an opera in the vein of sir andrew lloyd weber where the cover is as much a cover as it is an entrance….just a musing (pun not implied).

regards, m a r k 

[Howie Mallory]

Rick- Good morning. Thanks for staying with the terrace needs. Remedying the sewer cover incongruity is really the proverbial silver lining to a cloud.   I hope that you can sketch a design that will represent the class and the school appropriately. Symmetry should be a non issue.

In my opinion just covering over the metal  with a cap of cement  will really look tacky and will ultimately fail under the pressures of weather etc.

If there is a budget issue , I will suggest that Tim Richards use  a bit of  the newly created Head's discretionary fund to fund a new cover.  We can then call the terrace gift from the class of 1962 finished properly  which is what we all expected.
Howie

[David Storrs]

Howie, if not a big number I would be willing to pay for the cover .

David

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[Howie Mallory]

David- thanks. Lets see what Melissa comes back with from the school and then make a decision. Howie

[Russell Fisher]

Melissa

Please remove me from the pomf...@googlegroups.com

This has become a ridiculous overload of emails.

Thank you

Russ Fisher

 

From: pomf...@googlegroups.com [mailto:pomf...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Melissa Perkins
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 2:41 PM
To: pomf...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Two Items

 

Hi Everyone –

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[Melissa Perkins]

Hi Russ,

Thanks for your email.  Unfortunately, I did not set up the google group, it was done by one of your classmates.  I don’t have an administrative authority.  I’m sure that as a result of your email, the group administrator will honor your request.

 

Best,

Melissa

 

 

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Pomfret School

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Pomfret, CT  06258

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Fax:  (860) 928-1034

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From: pomf...@googlegroups.com [mailto:pomf...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Russell Fisher

Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:03 PM
To: pomf...@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Two Items

[Toby Condliffe]

Russ,

I have checked and no longer see you in the list of group members.  As each email we receive has an unsubscribe link at the bottom, I'm guessing that you unsubscribed yourself.

Had I gotten to this before your name was removed, I would have changed your settings to receive no emails but would leave you as a member of the group, able to view posts on the googlegroups website, and able to send an email to the group.  If you or any member of the group would prefer this, or would prefer to receive a digest (daily or less frequent) of the emails, I think you can change your own settings or you can email me and I'll change them for you.

Russ, if you'd like to stay a group member but receive no email or a digest, let me know and I'll add you back.

All the best,

Toby

[moe...@q.com]

Toby,

 

I feel the same way as Russ.  I can't keep up with all the emails.  So would you leave me in the group but not send me the emails?

 

Thanks.

 

Mo

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[Toby Condliffe]

Moe,

I've taken the liberty of switching you to a "Daily Digest" which will aggregate all the emails into a group and send you no more than one email a day.  If you truly want no emails, let me know and I'll stop them all.  My guess, however, is that as time passes, there will be fewer emails.

Toby