Re: [polyphasic] Lucidman

[Karoline]

Greg,

That IS intriguing!!!  It would mean that I wouldn't have to give up my beloved jasmine tea!! How long have you been doing that schedule?  And did you go straight to it from monophasic or were you living in Uber/Everyman for a while first??

(and yes, I get that you haven't worked out the kinks yet, holiday parties are a challenge even to monphasic sleep.)

Karoline

On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:51 PM, PlaceboZA (Greg) <plac...@gmail.com> wrote:

On another note... I wanted to hold back on this info, but meh... the schedule I'm experimenting with was coined 'lucidman' by somebody on dreamviews.com (visit: it's a good forum! :D) although the name could be a misnomer and probably needs a new name if someone can think of a good one.

Essentially it's uberman. But instead of the annoyance of a nap every 4 hours, you squish 2 naps together in one slot. No, not a 40 minute nap (that's not recommended), but 2 separate 20 minute naps. Now of course the biggest danger here is that you need to make sure you don't end up just extending your 20 minute nap into 40, by just passing out back into oblivion again after that first nap.

So here's what I'm doing (and it works a charm so far):
I nap at 5am, 1pm, 9pm
I prepare a strong, sweet flask of coffee .. yes caffeinated, will explain in a sec... and use my 20 minute mp3. When the track ends, you concentrate on drinking the coffee and nothing else. This forces you to sit up and take time to feel better about getting up. Then I get up, wash my face, check on things, and generally make sure I'm not feeling groggy anymore.
THEN take your second nap.

By the time the coffee kicks in, it's more or less time to wake up from the second nap, and youv'e got 8 hours for the caffeine to wear off, unlike with uberman where coffee would affect your next nap.
This makes adaptation far, far easier as you have good 'ol drugs to help things along.

Advantages:
1) Convenient spread of 8 hour wakefulness
2) Convenient timing of the naps at least in my case - before work/school, lunchtime, normal bedtime (well... bedtime for 3 year olds.. lol)
3) Flexible - if you have a meeting at your nap time, switch to standard uberman (forgo the coffee, have first nap an hour earlier, and have another nap sometime after the meeting). BTW, this concept is experimental, and not recommended during adaptation :)
4) Caffeine becomes your friend, not your foe
5) With 8 hour spreads, you can even consider alcohol, if you time it well. Maybe. Experimental, not recommended during adaptation, etc etc

PS: The one catch I have personally is that the sugar in the coffee seems to hit me a few minutes before the end of my second nap.
PS2: The reason I haven't called a 'breakthrough' on this is because I've had some setbacks, namely family xmas parties, etc, where I took a chance.


- Greg

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 2:50 AM, Joseph Stoppelbein <pasto...@gmail.com> wrote:

I use the placebo sleep track, 20 minutes.
1)  It's excellent for killing outside noise - use on ipod - I have kids.
2)  Placebo effect - not only am I ready for my nap but the white noise
tells my brain its time - kinda helps in falling asleep quick for me.
3)  the wake up mode is excellent - dropping the white noise, then louder
noises.

I like it, but again; we know that many intricacies of polyphasic sleep are
not for everyone.
Joe

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Are sleep tracks used much or only few people do it. I am on everyman
and wondering if I should try them. Is the only benefit the fact that
outside noise will distract you less, or?

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