Re: THE BEGINNING OF THE END OF ISLAM
library101
Drooling Bats Again
- Waste of Time and Energy (Destructive activity - need to stop it,
please)
- You cannot be using up the Air time; you are not qualified for it...
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I read the article posted on the website.
The writer is so thoroughly 'two-faced' that he says two opposite
things almost on consecutive sentences.
He says he is for Islam and then he says he is against Islam :
"... prophesied that “the wave of the Islamic revolution will soon
reach the entire world.” I believe him. But the global revolution will
be against Islam, not of Islam."
He says he sees that the Christians failed and then he says people
will understand the real Jesus Christ, etc.
"When Christians understand the person and teachings of Jesus Christ,
they become different people. And when Muslims understand the fraud
that has oppressed them for centuries, they will look for a different
way."
He does not have anything to say in substance other than to say that
so-and-so was wrong, etc. He cannot point to exact reasons why the
idea is wrong. He just thinks so. That is all.
A lot of noise and no substance.
Time wasted.
- HSN.
On Feb 24, 7:50 pm, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
Jai Maharaj) wrote:
> The beginning of the end of Islam
>
> http://sonofhamas.wordpress.com/2011/02/24/up-the-revolution/
>
> Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> Om Shanti
library101
My comments on 'Teaching' and 'Supporting' Moderates to magically 'win
over' Extremists !
- i.e. Super Duper 'Reasoning' Coming from 'Drooling Bats' of the
Middle East
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I have heard of Fareed Zakaria.
Thank you for posting his views here.
I am going to show you where he is wrong and how he could correct
himself and others he talks to, if he is open to listening to me.
I do not see the point in what he is supporting in his writing -
'proposed institute' at Ground Zero in New York City at the site of
the World Trade Centers that were bombed by 'Islamic' terrorists on
9/11 (September 11 2001).
>...a fundamental point. If there is going to
> be a reformist movement in Islam, it is going to emerge from places like the
> proposed institute. We should be encouraging groups like the one behind this
> project, not demonizing them.
Does'nt he know that the extremists that he is seemingly opposing,
thrive in mosques and places of worship and teaching and meeting ?
Does'nt he know that the moderates are the ones who call in the
extremists when they are about to lose the debate with their
'opponents' on the ground (if they even know what a 'debate' is, that
is).
Therefore his support for a building a mosque or 'Institute' for
'moderates' at Ground Zero in New York City uses flawed and shallow
reasoning. Countries that have faced terrorism such as Bharat with the
Mumbai terrorist shootout are putting out all the evidence about
madrassas and teachers and mosques and meeting places being breeding
grounds for terrorists. Everyone can see that. Even Pakistan had such
terrorism with weapons nests hidden in mosques that they had to force
their way in to shut down.
Why such shallow reasoning from FZ in the face of all this evidence to
the contrary ? Can we support such journalists or commentators who
fail in the Use of Reason and Truth and therefore completely fail in
Non-Violence.
They are using Unreason, Untruth and therefore only lead to Violence
in the world wherever they are able to pull their weight.
What we are seeing here (this kind of writing) is, I hope, a 'debate'
expressing opinions to find the truth.
Many of these people from the Middle East, even so-called 'moderates'
are not even open to any 'ideas' of any sort. For them, whatever is
written in some so-called 'Holy Books' is all that matters. There is
no need to go any further to look for 'truth'. That is not the way to
God. Each seeker has to find his/her own way by questioning and
finding the real truth. Everything on earth - written books or spoken
words of people around other than God - are just there as either
'guidance' or 'blockage' on the path to the 'truth' or God.
What are these so-called 'Holy Books' of the Middle East ?
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These are, I believe, tomes of material obtained from the Air from an
'unreliable' (mixture of truth and deception) God in Heaven or from a
'prophet' on the ground who is 'not God' - these are not the same as
'the word of the One Living God on Earth'; you cannot but come to
grief if you live by self contradictory and detailed and extensive
rules created by somebody other than the real God.
The real God in Heaven is the same as the real One Living God on
Earth. The only problem is that, not every one on earth has access to
the Real God in Heaven due to their past Karma or due to their present
Karma that leads to Conflict in the Air for them - cutting off their
access to the Real God in Heaven. They get to hear only the words of
'imposters' who try to play the role of the real God in Heaven and
tell all kinds of half-truths and outright lies to their flock.
These Abrahamic religions of the Middle East are totally lost in their
'false belief' that there is no such person as the One Living God on
Earth.
They swear to kill anyone who claims to be the One Living God on
Earth. It will take time for them to see the light of the day. Their
past bad Karma of Killing the One Living God on Earth is making it
harder for them to see the truth, I believe. They might be
experiencing Conflict in the Air with local rabbis or mullahs or
Ayatollahs or Pope (Roman Catholic Church) or Archbishop of Canterbury
(Anglican Church) other Spiritual Leaders or 'Prophet in the Air' - a
Military guy over there playing Mohammed, for example, interfering
with the Control over the Air for them.
All this Conflict in the Air is expected to go away as the 'defiant'
Control of the Air by these 'imposters' is slowly defeated by the
power of the One Living God on Earth.
You can wait and see the results on the ground around you, no matter
where you are in the world, in due course of 'Time'.
This is what I expect.
- HSN.
P.S.
Fareed Zakaria, please feel free to debate any of the points I have
mentioned above using any references from these so-called 'Holy Books'
that you find relevant and truthful and 'verifiable' by the people -
rather than just some statements blindly pulled out of these books.
You need to check the truth of everything with enough sources who know
what 'God in Heaven' means and what 'One Living God on Earth' means
before you say anything.
Otherwise, I will be wasting my time responding to material pulled out
of these 'unreliable' so-called 'Holy Books'. Please do not do that.
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On Feb 25, 6:44 pm, "Ala" <alackr...@comcast.net> wrote:
> "use...@mantra.com and/orwww.mantra.com/jai(Dr. Jai Maharaj)" wrote in
> messagenews:20110224KXF6IIp5JftIrYIQpANwEFd@wIyYE...> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
>
> >> The beginning of the end of Islam
>
> >>http://sonofhamas.wordpress.com/2011/02/24/up-the-revolution/
>
> > An ongoing discussion here:
>
> >http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2679737/posts
>
> > Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
> > Om Shanti
>
> Build the Ground Zero Mosque
>
> by By Fareed Zakaria, Newsweek
> Sunday, 08 August 2010 09:25
>
> I believe we should promote Muslim moderates right here in America. And why
> I'm returning an award to the ADL.
>
> ver since 9/11, liberals and conservatives have agreed that the lasting
> solution to the problem of Islamic terror is to prevail in the battle of
> ideas and to discredit radical Islam, the ideology that motivates young men
> to kill and be killed. Victory in the war on terror will be won when a
> moderate, mainstream version of Islam - one that is compatible with
> modernity - fully triumphs over the world view of Osama bin Laden.
>
> As the conservative Middle Eastern expert Daniel Pipes put it, "The U.S.
> role [in this struggle] is less to offer its own views than to help those
> Muslims with compatible views, especially on such issues as relations with
> non-Muslims, modernization, and the rights of women and minorities." To that
> end, early in its tenure the Bush administration began a serious effort to
> seek out and support moderate Islam. Since then, Washington has funded
> mosques, schools, institutes, and community centers that are trying to
> modernize Islam around the world. Except, apparently, in New York City.
>
> The debate over whether an Islamic center should be built a few blocks from
> the World Trade Center has ignored a fundamental point. If there is going to
> be a reformist movement in Islam, it is going to emerge from places like the
> proposed institute. We should be encouraging groups like the one behind this
> project, not demonizing them. Were this mosque being built in a foreign
> city, chances are that the U.S. government would be funding it.
library101
Is there any 'Reasonable Way' to Govern the World without Using
Force ?
The Killers of the One Living God on Earth in the Middle East are
Leaving Him with no choice !
- Erase of all 'Killing of God scripts' (so-called 'Holy Books') and
buildings that carry the same
Killing Of God message to succeeding generations may be needed
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The only way to rule the whole world and bring order and peace is to
use reason over force. There is no alternative. The use of force is
self-defeating and it cannot be advocated by God.
That means, it takes 'erasing' all the past history of 'violent',
'intolerant' religions in that region including the history that is
written up as 'scripts to Kill God' in the form of the so-called 'Holy
Books' and repeated again and again by the Jews, Christians and
Muslims. That is how history is repeated again and again in that
region and then the same mess is spread all over the world by those
who spread the word from there.
All the decadent structures over there that help the population over
there replay the story of the 'Killing of Christ', etc. will need to
be wiped out of there as well as all over the world. I believe that
the Living Gods of Bharat of the past were also killed by the people
from the Middle East region as well as people farther East and West of
there. (I am waiting for investigation of this from Germany/Israel/
Pakistan/anyone who has records of the past). Their past Karma can
only be erased by 'vaporizing' all the buildings and writings that
transmit the 'horrible' scripts of the Killing of God from generation
to generation.
They all deny the existence of the One Living God on Earth and swear
to kill anyone who claims to be the One Living God on Earth.
We need people who are open to Use of Reason, Truth and Non-Violence.
Presently these people are ungovernable by the One Living God on
Earth. They are not open to negotiation and reason.
Reading the views of the leading opinion-makers of the Middle East, it
appears that it may not be possible to use Reason in that region in
the near future and only the 'automatic' mechanism of control of the
One Living God on Earth will work there.
I am willing to wait as long as it takes to hear voices of reason from
that region as well as their representatives all over the world.
That will be my position always.
But, since we have run out of Time, we will be seeing 'automatic'
mechanisms of the world operating on their own now.
We might see a gradual change of the entire population over there as
well as all over the world to focus on the One Living God on Earth -
events that happen 'automatically' as per the general direction set by
God and executed by His Heavens but without His direct orders - he
will not order the 'killing' or 'freezing into stone' or 'vaporizing'
of people but it may happen 'automatically' if these Killers of God
attack Him on the ground and endanger Him and therefore the whole
world.
His being, His mind, contains the whole world of beings within Him as
well as the Maya of all the inanimate matter in the world. The powers
of God cannot be taken lightly by anyone in this small One World.
He has failed in all attempts at trying to convince Killers of God of
the Supremacy of Reason over Force !
- HSN.
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On Feb 26, 2:00 pm, "M. Ranjit Mathews" <ranjit_math...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On Feb 26, 4:16 pm, library101 <h.s.nair...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
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>
>
>
> > My comments on 'Teaching' and 'Supporting' Moderates to magically 'win
> > over' Extremists !
> > - i.e. Super Duper 'Reasoning' Coming from 'Drooling Bats' of the
> > Middle East
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > I have heard of Fareed Zakaria.
>
> > Thank you for posting his views here.
>
> > I am going to show you where he is wrong and how he could correct
> > himself and others he talks to, if he is open to listening to me.
>
> > I do not see the point in what he is supporting in his writing -
> > 'proposed institute' at Ground Zero in New York City at the site of
> > the World Trade Centers that were bombed by 'Islamic' terrorists on
> > 9/11 (September 11 2001).
>
> > >...a fundamental point. If there is going to
> > > be a reformist movement in Islam, it is going to emerge from places like the
> > > proposed institute. We should be encouraging groups like the one behind this
> > > project, not demonizing them.
>
> > Does'nt he know that the extremists that he is seemingly opposing,
> > thrive in mosques and places of worship and teaching and meeting ?
>
> > Does'nt he know that the moderates are the ones who call in the
> > extremists when they are about to lose the debate with their
> > 'opponents' on the ground (if they even know what a 'debate' is, that
> > is).
>
> The Hezbollah are moderates, according to him:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2578707/posts- Hide quoted text -
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