I Saw That Steyers Paid Ad Last Night For the First Time.

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Navy

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Nov 19, 2017, 7:22:10 AM11/19/17
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Calling for impeachment of a sitting President.


I haven't screamed fuck you at my tv since Kankles was running  for President. 

I can't believe this was even allowed . He strait up is a liar and because he has big bucks he thinks he can do this with out backlash. 

Not that a billionaire gives a crap as long as his and the left's agenda is met.



I-think4me

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Nov 19, 2017, 8:53:18 AM11/19/17
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So what claim do you believe was a lie?

mitchscove

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Nov 19, 2017, 10:22:48 AM11/19/17
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Here's from the last time I looked at Steyer.  He made his money in the oil and gas business. Rich people don't want other people to get rich ,,, that's why they are all for taxes.  Taxes don't hurt people who already have theirs.  They hurt earnings by others who want to get rich.  Have to look hard to find Steyer's warts.  Coverup like none other.

Exposing the largest, most expensive and deceptive case of crony capitalism in American history…


Liberal Billionaire Tom Steyer: Dems' 'Cash for Climate Change'


Meet the latest wealthy political powerhouse, California liberal billionaire Tom Steyer, who has emerged as an environmental hero and major source of cash for Democrats. 

This is not just any Big-Bucks liberal. He's the extremely successful hedge-fund manager with oil and coal investments, turned ferocious climate change crusader, and is the notorious, outspoken opponent of the Keystone XL Pipeline.

He is directly linked to the powerful left-wing think tank Center for American Progress (CAP) –– the dark, driving force behind President Obama's massive green energy scheme.

Steyer is two-time Obama bundler, a 2008 Obama "consultant," and a frequent White House visitor. In 2012, Steyer was handpicked to make a cameo appearance at the Democratic National Convention and was even on the short-list to replace the departing Energy Secretary Steven Chu.

A darling of the Washington Post, they've label him as "the man that has Obama's ear when it comes to energy and climate change. Steyer is helping drive policy in Washington."

Even though he made a fortune in oil and coal, he's aligned himself with the president's "war on coal." As John Hinderaker at Power Line  appropriately puts it: "Tom Steyer was for coal before he was against it."

Additionally, his former mega-firm Farallon Capital Management, L.L.C. (“Farallon”) has an invested interest in a rival pipeline that would compete with Keystone.

Steyer is a also big financial supporter for Greener Capital [now EFW Capital], a venture firm that invests in renewable energy, of which, so far, at least two of their green energy firms have snagged millions of free stimulus funds, Energy Department grants, and Department of Defense contracts.

While he has been a strong and consistent Democrat donor for some time (occasionally to Republicans), as of late, Mr. Steyer has set his sights and tons of cash on the 2014 midterms, supporting Democrats who are partaking in his "war on climate change," while attacking Republicans he deems unfriendly to the environment.


Steyer's "Cash for Climate Change" machine

In April 2013, Steyer told The Hill that he was pledging “to make climate change a campaign issue for years to come…” The Hill, at that time, also released some strong language from the California billionaire:
"The goal here is not to win. The goal here is to destroy these people. We want a smashing victory,” Steyer said of candidates he judges to be on the wrong side of the climate change debate.
Those following the "green" money know that Steyer’s impact was felt not so long ago when he “spent millions on the 2013 Massachusetts Senate and Virginia governor’s races, helping Democrats Ed Markey and Terry McAuliffe prevail,” reported POLITICO. And, by the way, both Markey and McAuliffe have their own green corruption tails.

About that same time (2013), Steyer founded NextGen Climate, whereas by February 2014, he laid out what The Guardian headlined as his “$100 million midterm attack on climate change deniers,” catapulting him “as a major player in the growing world of money and politics,” heralded POLITICO.

This despite the Left’s outrage over the Supreme Court’s 2010 Citizens United, as well as their bickering over money in politics –– with Majority Leader Harry Reid continually disgracing the senate floor with his "billionaire Koch Brothers" rubbish.

Even President Obama, "who long cast himself as an ardent opponent of big money in politics," scolded the Supreme Court's ruling on campaign finance reform during his 2010 State of the Union address. Worse is the Democrat's utter hypocrisy, denial and outright lies over their connection to huge amounts of Dark Money –– a fact that has been proven many times over inside this green energy scheme, and more dramatically in my July post on SolarCity on how the president's green revolution, using taxpayer money, is continually subsidizing millionaires and billionaires.

Recently, the Washington Examiner took notice, stating that Steyer's NextGen Climate Action PAC, “is currently playing in seven states — Senate races in Iowa, New Hampshire, Colorado and Michigan, along with gubernatorial contests in Pennsylvania, Florida and Maine. All the targets are Republicans.”

Sure enough, NextGen's election senate targets are:
  • Cory Gardner of Colorado
  • Joni Ernst of Iowa
  • Scott Brown of New Hampshire
  • Terri Lynn Land of Michigan

The gubernatorial targets, which are are all incumbents include the following:
  • Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Corbett
  • Florida Gov. Rick Scott
  • Maine Gov. Paul LePage
Still, Steyer and his minions are not only waging war on the 2014 midterms, but they aim to shape the 2016 presidential election...and beyond.

http://greencorruption.blogspot.com/2014/09/liberal-billionaire-tom-steyer-dems.html#.VoO_qVnLlmw

Would you like a little Solyndra with your whine?

Navy

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Nov 19, 2017, 10:25:11 AM11/19/17
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All of it. There is no proof of any of what he stated the reasoning is. 



I-think4me

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Nov 19, 2017, 10:25:51 AM11/19/17
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Here's from the last time I looked at Steyer.
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So which of his claims in this ad is untrue? Care to comment on that?

Minister Rebel

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Nov 19, 2017, 10:30:20 AM11/19/17
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Getting mad at your TV ???? You should not let your emotions rule your life Navy, The ad is no different than the Birthers shit that they put up, When you are in Politics, it is a dirty business on all parties, If Trump is a menace and a threat to our society, I feel he should be impeached, After all, It was alright when Bill Clinton lied and got thrown out of the W.H. If you want to judge, you need to be fair to all parties, Trump has all three houses, yet has failed so far to produce anything of consequence, He has failed miserably at his task, and no one can blame the Democrats, At this point, the democrats are immaterial they have very little power to do anything of consequence, All's fair in love and war

mitchscove

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Nov 19, 2017, 12:52:21 PM11/19/17
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Are you hiding under your bed in fear of the next of Trump's daily attacks against the American people?  Have you built a bunker to protect yourself from the North Korean Leader who was emboldened by Obama and handed to Trump as one more inheritance?  Trump said he would not accept a Presidential salary.  

By S.A. Miller - The Washington Times - Monday, April 3, 2017

President Trump made good Monday on his promise not to accept his $400,000 presidential salary, handing over his first three months of pay to the National Park Service — but the generous gesture couldn’t escape the scoffing of critics.

Mr. Trump gave the $78,333 check, the amount cut by the Treasury for the pay period that began with the Jan. 20 inauguration, to Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke.

“We’re going to dedicate it and put against the infrastructure on our nation’s battlefields,” said Mr. Zinke. “We’re excited about that opportunity.”

He noted that the 25 national battlefield were more than $100 million behind in maintenance.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/3/trump-donates-first-check-national-park-service/

Along with his salary, Trump committed on January 11 that he would donate profits from hotel stays of foreign dignitaries to the treasury even though paying for value is not a gift or emolument.  We'll probably have to wait 'til the end of the 2017 tax cycle to see this.

BTW.  I don't remember Steyer calling Obama a criminal when he pocketed the Nobel proceeds and then acted like he worked for the Nobel Committee as opposed to working for the American people.

I would expect Trump to tell the Steyer and the Democrats who are looking for any excuse to destroy the country on his watch to stick it up their asses.

Minister Rebel

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Nov 19, 2017, 3:30:56 PM11/19/17
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Of course Snitch says nothiong of the OrangeAnus dodging paying his taxes to the government, His Mar Di Lago is making a fortune and his Trump towers are raking it in...Nothing is free idiot, Chumpski knows that putting his loose change into something it will get returns.

Irie

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Nov 19, 2017, 3:36:12 PM11/19/17
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Ahhh..that oft repeated but never substantiated fairy tale.....
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On Sunday, November 19, 2017 at 2:30:56 PM UTC-6, Minister Rebel wrote:
Of course Snitch says nothiong of the OrangeAnus dodging paying his taxes to the government...

Ragnar

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Nov 19, 2017, 4:12:11 PM11/19/17
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TRUMP IMPEACHMENT ARTICLES INTRODUCED BY SIX DEMOCRATS CALLING FOR HEARINGS TO BEGIN IMMEDIATELY


Irie

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Nov 19, 2017, 4:25:41 PM11/19/17
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Do those dullards actually think an impeachment would go anywhere right now?  
Here's a funky idea....let's wait to see if there is/are any allegation(s) that actually have teeth first.

herman

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Nov 19, 2017, 8:56:28 PM11/19/17
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There have been grounds for impeachment from the moment trump took the Oath of Office.

Ragnar

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Nov 19, 2017, 9:29:51 PM11/19/17
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Apparently teeth don't reside in wee wee's home turf.....his giant asshole resembling Snoopy's dog house.....orange rat fucker is exponentially beyond Nixon and Clinton.......

Lobo

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Nov 19, 2017, 9:47:13 PM11/19/17
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<<Ahhh..that oft repeated but never substantiated fairy tale.....>>

Do you have any evidence that he HAS paid any taxes in the last 10 years? This is the president who refuses to release his tax returns, remember.

In fact, he ADMITTED that he hadn't.

Donald Trump proclaimed during the first presidential debate that not paying federal taxes made him "smart," then denied having said it.

YouTube screen capture
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CLAIM

Donald Trump proclaimed during the first presidential debate that not paying federal taxes made him "smart," then denied having said it.

RATING

 TRUE

ORIGIN

On 26 September 2016, presidential candidates Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump faced off for the first of three presidential debates at Hofstra University in New York. In the course of the debate, Clinton accused Trump of refusing to release his tax returns and suggested her opponent’s motivation was that he had something to hide:

 

CLINTON: For 40 years, everyone running for president has released their tax returns. You can go and see nearly, I think, 39, 40 years of our tax returns, but everyone has done it. We know the IRS has made clear there is no prohibition on releasing [returns] when you’re under audit.

So you’ve got to ask yourself, why won’t [Trump] release his tax returns? And I think there may be a couple of reasons. First, maybe he’s not as rich as he says he is. Second, maybe he’s not as charitable as he claims to be. Third, we don’t know all of his business dealings, but we have been told through investigative reporting that he owes about $650 million to Wall Street and foreign banks.

Or maybe he doesn’t want the American people, all of you watching tonight, to know that he’s paid nothing in federal taxes, because the only years that anybody’s ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn’t pay any federal income tax.

TRUMP: That makes me smart.

But immediately after the debate, when questioned by CNN’s Dana Bash, Trump amazingly denied having made that remark:

https://youtu.be/pN1E5ok8Wsw

DANA BASH: My question for you is, first of all, it sounds like you admitted that you hadn’t paid federal taxes and that, that was smart. Is that what you meant to say?

TRUMP: No, I didn’t say that at all. I mean if they say I didn’t, I mean it doesn’t matter. I will say this, I hate the way our government spends our taxes because they are wasting our money. They don’t know what they’re doing. They’re running it so poorly. Whether it’s spent in Iraq or wherever they’re spending it, they are wasting our money. So I do hate the way our government spends our money.

To hold that Trump hadn’t actually said what he had just been recorded saying would require a good deal of semantic contorting, such as claiming that Trump was describing his not releasing his tax returns (rather than his not paying tax) as “smart,” or that Trump meant he hadn’t said that he never paid any federal taxes (even if that was the case in at least some years).

Two more presidential debates are scheduled, one on 9 October 2016 at Washington University in St. Louis, Missouri, and the last on 19 October 2016 at the University of Nevada-Las Vegas.


Ragnar

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Nov 19, 2017, 9:51:17 PM11/19/17
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wee wee only comes up for air while sucking orange koch 24/7 to deny he voted for the lizard 


On Sunday, November 19, 2017 at 8:47:13 PM UTC-6, Lobo wrote:
<<Ahhh..that oft repeated but never substantiated fairy tale.....>>

Do you have any evidence that he HAS paid any taxes in the last 10 years? This is the president who refuses to release his tax returns, remember.

In fact, he ADMITTED that he hadn't.

Donald Trump proclaimed during the first presidential debate that not paying federal taxes made him "smart," then denied having said it.

YouTube screen capture
 6K

CLAIM

Donald Trump proclaimed during the first presidential debate that not paying federal taxes made him "smart," then denied having said it.

RATING

 TRUE

ORIGIN

On 26 September 2016, presidential candidates Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump faced off for the first of three presidential debates at Hofstra University in New York. In the course of the debate, Clinton accused Trump of refusing to release his tax returns and suggested her opponent’s motivation was that he had something to hide:

 

CLINTON: For 40 years, everyone running for president has released their tax returns. You can go and see nearly, I think, 39, 40 years of our tax returns, but everyone has done it. We know the IRS has made clear there is no prohibition on releasing [returns] when you’re under audit.

So you’ve got to ask yourself, why won’t [Trump] release his tax returns? And I think there may be a couple of reasons. First, maybe he’s not as rich as he says he is. Second, maybe he’s not as charitable as he claims to be. Third, we don’t know all of his business dealings, but we have been told through investigative reporting that he owes about $650 million to Wall Street and foreign banks.

Or maybe he doesn’t want the American people, all of you watching tonight, to know that he’s paid nothing in federal taxes, because the only years that anybody’s ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn’t pay any federal income tax.

TRUMP: That makes me smart.

But immediately after the debate, when questioned by CNN’s Dana Bash, Trump amazingly denied having made that remark:

DANA BASH: My question for you is, first of all, it sounds like you admitted that you hadn’t paid federal taxes and that, that was smart. Is that what you meant to say?

TRUMP: No, I didn’t say that at all. I mean if they say I didn’t, I mean it doesn’t matter. I will say this, I hate the way our government spends our taxes because they are wasting our money. They don’t know what they’re doing. They’re running it so poorly. Whether it’s spent in Iraq or wherever they’re spending it, they are wasting our money. So I do hate the way our government spends our money.

Lobo

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Nov 19, 2017, 10:00:31 PM11/19/17
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Well, I can sympathize with the denial. Admitting that you voted for Trump would be like admitting that you once beat up a cripple, or robbed a blind man's tin cup.

I-think4me

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Nov 19, 2017, 10:43:52 PM11/19/17
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Along with his salary, Trump committed on January 11 that he would donate profits from hotel stays of foreign dignitaries to the treasury even though paying for value is not a gift or emolument. We'll probably have to wait 'til the end of the 2017 tax cycle to see this.

BTW. I don't remember Steyer calling Obama a criminal when he pocketed the Nobel proceeds and then acted like he worked for the Nobel Committee as opposed to working for the American pe

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If you are waiting for trumps taxes to see if he keeps his vow, it will never happen.
And you must have missed when the Trump orginaziton later came out and said that tracking those payments isn't really practical.

MSNBC reported Wednesday a pamphlet from the company says the Trump Organization doesn't "attempt to identify travelers who have not specifically identified themselves as being a representative of a foreign government entity."

The pamphlet also says the Trump Organization plans to estimate profits from foreign governments, instead of calculating them
To attempt to individually track and distinctly attribute certain business-related costs as specifically identifiable to a particular customer group is not practical," the pamphlet says.

Sources told MSNBC Trump Organization employees are not asking whether hotel reservations or business is coming from a foreign government.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-organization-isnt-tracking-profits-from-foreign-governments-report/article/2624035

Oh and for the record, Obama didn't" pocket" his Noble peace prize proceeds. He donated them to 10 different charities. Which we know because unlike Trump, Obama's tax returns are public.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-obama-donation/obama-gives-1-4-million-nobel-prize-to-10-charities-idUSTRE62A5EN20100311

Irie

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Nov 19, 2017, 11:26:49 PM11/19/17
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C'mon Lobo...you are better than that.  Your guys made the claim (like they do with any number of people with whom they disagree politically) so it is their place to substantiate it.  It isn't my duty to prove that what they claim isn't true...

Just curious, but do you pay MORE taxes than are required by law?
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Ragnar

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Nov 19, 2017, 11:29:36 PM11/19/17
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rump is fucking criminal....where are the taxes? 

Lobo

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Nov 19, 2017, 11:30:37 PM11/19/17
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<<We'll probably have to wait 'til the end of the 2017 tax cycle to see this.>>

I'm sorry... was that meant to be a joke?

Lobo

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Nov 20, 2017, 12:05:09 AM11/20/17
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<< Your guys made the claim (like they do with any number of people with whom they disagree politically) so it is their place to substantiate it.>>

I'm not saying you have to prove he paid and pays taxes; I was just wondering what reason you have to think he does. Besides, as I just demonstrated. he ADMITTED he hasn't.

<<Just curious, but do you pay MORE taxes than are required by law?>>

No, but I also don't have the $$$ for lobbyists to write laws to exempt me from taxes, and I'm pretty far from being a billionaire.

There's also the little matter of him being president of the United States. Why should ordinary Americans pay taxes if their billionaire president doesn't?

mitchscove

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Nov 20, 2017, 7:12:02 AM11/20/17
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Let me think.  Clinton.  Hmmm.  Was she the candidate who cheated on the debates?  I can't remember.  I know she was aghast that Trump would not commit to accepting the results of the election until all Clinton's cheating was over and the people had their say.


On Sunday, November 19, 2017 at 9:47:13 PM UTC-5, Lobo wrote:
<<Ahhh..that oft repeated but never substantiated fairy tale.....>>

Do you have any evidence that he HAS paid any taxes in the last 10 years? This is the president who refuses to release his tax returns, remember.

In fact, he ADMITTED that he hadn't.

On 26 September 2016, presidential candidates Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump faced off for the first of three presidential debates at Hofstra University in New York. In the course of the debate, Clinton accused Trump of refusing to release his tax returns and suggested her opponent’s motivation was that he had something to hide:

 

CLINTON: For 40 years, everyone running for president has released their tax returns. You can go and see nearly, I think, 39, 40 years of our tax returns, but everyone has done it. We know the IRS has made clear there is no prohibition on releasing [returns] when you’re under audit.

So you’ve got to ask yourself, why won’t [Trump] release his tax returns? And I think there may be a couple of reasons. First, maybe he’s not as rich as he says he is. Second, maybe he’s not as charitable as he claims to be. Third, we don’t know all of his business dealings, but we have been told through investigative reporting that he owes about $650 million to Wall Street and foreign banks.

Or maybe he doesn’t want the American people, all of you watching tonight, to know that he’s paid nothing in federal taxes, because the only years that anybody’s ever seen were a couple of years when he had to turn them over to state authorities when he was trying to get a casino license, and they showed he didn’t pay any federal income tax.

To hold that Trump hadn’t actually said what he had just been recorded saying would require a good deal of semantic contorting, such as claiming that Trump was describing his not releasing his tax returns (rather than his not paying tax) as “smart,” or that Trump meant he hadn’t said that he never paid any federal taxes (even if that was the case in at least some years).

mitchscove

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Nov 20, 2017, 7:25:50 AM11/20/17
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How do those Democrats' constituents feel about those Democrats being bought by Billionaire Steyer, representing the oil and coal money they took from Steyer rather than the people who sent them to DC?


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Minister Rebel

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Nov 20, 2017, 7:44:43 AM11/20/17
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Trump has to go, then we start on the little guys like DDT, Weary and Snitch....Hang em high....

mitchscove

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Nov 20, 2017, 7:55:41 AM11/20/17
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So, you're admitting Obama took the gift from foreign countries and did with it what he pleased.  Trump didn't accept gifts from foreign countries.

Ragnar

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Nov 20, 2017, 8:23:09 AM11/20/17
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Your typical rump voter...like itchy snitchy 


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I-think4me

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Nov 20, 2017, 10:08:10 AM11/20/17
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So, you're admitting Obama took the gift from foreign countries and did with it what he pleased. Trump didn't accept gifts from foreign countries.
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The Nobel foundation is not a foreign country, it's a private foundation.

Minister Rebel

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Nov 20, 2017, 10:13:06 AM11/20/17
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Snitch does not know that, like many other things he tries to bullshit us with.
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