Progressives ....What They Have Done

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Navy

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Jan 7, 2026, 5:40:16 PM (2 days ago) Jan 7
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Lobo

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Jan 7, 2026, 6:16:31 PM (2 days ago) Jan 7
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Asking people to take a few temporary, simple, medically-proven precautions, in order to save literally millions of lives, during a once in a century pandemic -- and except for businesses doing work for the government, they were social pressures and private mandates by businesses, not by the government -- is not "fascism".

Even so, the US Supreme Court ruled way back in 1906 that government can force people to be vaccinated in some epidemic/pandemic situations. You have, or ought to have a right to do what you want with your own body, but you don't have a right to infect others with disease from your body.

"Fascism" is more like shutting down and threatening to shoot peaceful protesters, or sending troops to occupy cities a Leader doesn't like, or using the Justice Dept and other departments of government to punish that Dear Leader's perceived "Enemies" while protecting him and his cronies from the law. Or invading another country and toppling its president (without even bothering to tell, much less ask Congress) in order to steal its valuable resources for the financial benefit of Dear Leader and his cronies, or countless other authoritarian acts too numerous to list here.


Navy

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Jan 7, 2026, 6:25:34 PM (2 days ago) Jan 7
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Oh brother....

Lobo

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Jan 7, 2026, 6:30:21 PM (2 days ago) Jan 7
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I'm glad you agree.

Navy

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Jan 7, 2026, 6:42:23 PM (2 days ago) Jan 7
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I don't think I've ever agreed with you on politics Lobo.  Prolly never will. But I still appreciate you. 

Rick Richardson

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Jan 7, 2026, 7:10:47 PM (2 days ago) Jan 7
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The right wears the right shoe and the left wears the left shoe when either walks the toes are pointing in the same directionj.

Read none dare call it a conspiracy.

They point out that the right and left are leading us there just different tactics.

It says here that it was about right wing actions but in the book it said both were leading us to the same ending.

"None Dare Call It Conspiracy" is a highly influential 
1971 book by Gary Allen and Larry Abraham that argues a powerful, secretive elite manipulates global events to establish a "New World Order". It sold millions of copies and became a cornerstone of modern American right-wing conspiracy theories. 
Key Concepts
  • The Insiders: The book asserts that a power elite, referred to as "Insiders," orchestrates world affairs through various institutions, including international banking systems and groups like the Council on Foreign Relations.
  • Socialism as a Tool: It claims that these elites use elements of the Communist Manifesto—such as income tax and central banks—not out of belief in the ideology, but as tools to consolidate power and control.
  • Historical Manipulation: The authors contend that major historical events, including World War I and the Bolshevik Revolution, were engineered by these conspiratorial forces to increase national debt and further their agenda.
  • Grassroots Impact: The book gained popularity through a grassroots distribution system, as the authors predicted it would be ignored or attacked by the mainstream media they claimed was controlled by the Insiders. 
Publication and Influence
Published during the 1972 U.S. presidential campaign, the book had a significant impact, appealing to readers who felt traditional explanations of political and economic events were incomplete. It remains a widely read and referenced work in conservative and libertarian circles interested in conspiracy theories. 
The book is available for purchase from various retailers, including Target and Barnes & Noble, in both physical and digital formats. 
They have fighting each other just too keep our eyes on each other with different accusations so we are too busy to notice the line they each draw may seem like there is a difference as 
they are just leading us here and there sight seeing so we don't see the real destination.


plainolamerican

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Jan 7, 2026, 7:16:07 PM (2 days ago) Jan 7
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I don't think I've ever agreed with you on politics Lobo.  Prolly never will. But I still appreciate you. 
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That's the Navy we love.
Taking sides in America has become complicated.
It's somewhat difficult to deal with people who think their god puts them first and deplores everyone else.



Navy

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Jan 7, 2026, 7:31:25 PM (2 days ago) Jan 7
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😇.....It's  part of my charm. TY...

Rick Richardson

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Jan 7, 2026, 7:36:00 PM (2 days ago) Jan 7
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She says she is not a practicing christian.

plainolamerican

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Jan 7, 2026, 7:58:07 PM (2 days ago) Jan 7
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She says she is not a practicing christian.
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She probably means she's not a church goer who supports an individual church.
Make no mistake ... she's a xian and will be until she dies.
Some people need something to believe in.

Lobo

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Jan 7, 2026, 10:02:54 PM (2 days ago) Jan 7
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<< I don't think I've ever agreed with you on politics Lobo.  Prolly never will. But I still appreciate you.   >>

Same here, Navy. It's exasperating at times, but I do.

: -  (

BTW: I'm 74 years old today. How I got here, I don't know...

Navy

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Jan 8, 2026, 6:33:35 AM (yesterday) Jan 8
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Happy Birthday! You are very close to my hubs age. He was born in May  of 51. You're doing great !Especially with all you have been through . I hope you get yourself a ginormous piece of chocolate cake....If I remember correctly...that's you fave. :)

Irie

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Jan 8, 2026, 6:37:58 AM (yesterday) Jan 8
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"Asking"..."proven"....
Rofl

On Wednesday, January 7, 2026 at 5:16:31 PM UTC-6 Lobo wrote:

Navy

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Jan 8, 2026, 6:46:17 AM (yesterday) Jan 8
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Pretty close to the correct answer. I do still hold God's pIan in my heart . I still pray for others and myself. There is no church here that comes close to the belief system hubs keeps and I believe in but don't practice. I will always believe and love God. I know  He loves me and is as patient as he can be with me. I'm taking a risk by not keeping what I know is commanded. I will admit  I am a worldly loving person. I'm not one who looks forward to my body dying...( not that many are) but I do have hope I will get the chance to do the things God invisions for me when everyone else is doing that  too. It's easier to go with the flow than against the flow. It's why I so admire hubs faith and spiritual strength .Satan is a powerful being for now....but he won't be forever. I do look forward to him being locked way and unable to mess with us. But for those who Keep the faith and the spiritual work now even when the rest world doesn't...there will be  greater rewards for them and they will lead in the world tomorrow. I'll be happy if I'm just a peon in the whole picture of God's plan for us.
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