Islam or Christian

[ImStillMags Mags]

[Rick Richardson]

Which uniform do you like the best?

LOL

[Navy]

Well for one our religion does not require us to:...throw gays off of roofs, or stone women to death when they have an affair out of marriage or kill our children who marry out of our religion.
Also...our religion calls for including everyone that claims Christ as our Savior into the fold. Our religion doesn't practice taking over the world and forcing adherence or be killed.

Our religion doesn't promise men 72 virgins to fuck into eternity. That's just off the top of my head. 

[Irie]

The religion on the left doesn't preach death to the infadel.

On Wednesday, January 7, 2026 at 9:30:53 AM UTC-6 ImStillMags Mags wrote:

[ImStillMags Mags]

you both missed the point

[Irie]

You asked what the difference was, I explained it in crayon terms.

How the fuck is that "missing the point"?

[Navy]

What point?  

WE ARE NOT ALIKE!!

[PirateLT]

Both have similarities.

https://religionfacts.com/charts/christianity-islam

Organized religion no matter what is it IMO is an issue and often a mess.

[Navy]

Mankind was never perfect...neither is religion.

I see no similarities...with  the exception of we are all human. 

[PirateLT]

I gave you a link on the similarities.  The problem with organized religion is that it espouses  that they are correct, bar none and everyone else is wrong.  Sets up conflict right out of the gate.

[Lobo]

<< Well for one our religion does not require us to:...throw gays off of roofs, or stone women to death when they have an affair out of marriage or kill our children who marry out of our religion.  >>

Where did you get those ideas?

In fact, the Holy Books of all three major Abrahamic religions require strict punishment of adulterers, but only the Jewish Tanakh (which includes the Torah) and the Christian Old Testament Books require the death penalty -- by stoning -- for adultery. The Muslim Quran only requires non-lethal flogging. And in Islamic courts, the sexual penetration itself has to have been witnessed by four people, which makes it kind of difficult to prosecute.

And none of them require anyone to be thrown off roofs, though all three demand the death penalty for male homosexuality. 

• "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them" (Leviticus 20:13). 

You're confusing what is actually in the the three Holy Books with certain local customs, traditions, and mores that have developed in mostly impoverished, poorly-educated areas. Religious fundamentalists in all three religions tend to add things -- like opposition to abortion in Christianity, and an array of supernatural beings, places, and rules -- that aren't even mentioned in their Holy Books.

<<Also...our religion calls for including everyone that claims Christ as our Savior into the fold. Our religion doesn't practice taking over the world and forcing adherence or be killed.>>

It sure as hell did for most of its existence -- mass "conversions" at the point of words or guns is how Christianity got to be as large as it is -- and will again if White Christian Nationalist-types have their way. Fortunately, Christianity in the West has been largely tamed over the last two to three hundred years or so by secularism and the Enlightenment/Age of Reason. But Sacred Inquisitions, Holy Crusades, and the rest are always waiting in the shadows to rear their ugly heads.

<<Our religion doesn't promise men 72 virgins to fuck into eternity. That's just off the top of my head.>>

Neither does the Quran, or mainstream Islam. But as silly religious traditions go, I'll gladly take 72 virgins over "pearly gates", "streets paved with gold" and a fucking harp in any version of Eternity. (Though wings would be kind of cool, as long as they actually work...)

[Navy]

I looked at it  before my post...I stand by it.

[Navy]

I'm not confusing anything. Christians are not the same or even alike in their belief systems. Period.

[Lobo]

It sure as hell did for most of its existence -- mass "conversions" at the point of Swords or guns is how

(Sorry. My keyboard is getting worse and worse. If only it had been at the "point of words"...)

[Lobo]

<< I'm not confusing anything.  >>

You really are, but you're not alone. When fundamentalist Christian terrorists like Eric Rudolph blow people up, most mainstream Christians tend to say that they're acting outside of "real" Christianity. But if a fundamentalist Muslim terrorist blows people up, those same Christians ascribe his beliefs, motivations, and actions to ALL Muslims.

It's just how bigotry works.

I won't ask you to learn the whole sordid history of Christianity, or the hundreds of demands for the death penalty in the Jewish and Christian Bibles for "crimes" as innocuous as disobeying one's parents or walking too far on Saturday (the Sabbath), but you might ask google to show you exactly where the Quran demands the stuff that you think it does.

<<Christians are not the same or even alike in their belief systems. Period.>>

Just as with Christianity and Judaism, there are many different belief systems within Islam. The more fundamentalist and less mainstream the versions, the more likely they are to engage in hateful practices.

[Rick Richardson]

No but back in the day gays were pursecuted both by religion and by many of the citizenship some from the US.

Now we have given forgiveness by many. not all

[Thomas Argo]

Now we have given forgiveness by many. not all

What is forgiven?

[Rick Richardson]

The way they were treated then and now as I said by many but not all.

I just need to go back to the late sixties about gays by the way they were treated back then.

[plainolamerican]

Christians are not the same or even alike in their belief systems. Period.

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Which xians do you stand behind?

[Thomas Argo]

The way they were treated then

Who is doing the forgiving? Who is being forgiven?

[Rick Richardson]

Forgiven maybe a strong accusation for you maybe I should have said tolerated to a very high degree.

Yes I said High you can have a bowl full

[Navy]

For me..all of those that try and even if they aren't on the mark...they are people who will easily do the correct things by God when He clarifies things so they understand. That's a hopeful thing in my estimation.

[Thomas Argo]

should have said tolerated

Yes, better.

[plainolamerican]

For me..all of those that try and even if they aren't on the mark...they are people who will easily do the correct things by God when He clarifies things so they understand. That's a hopeful thing in my estimation.

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You evaded the question.

Another question ...

Do you want muslims deported from America?

And another ...
Do you support banning all religious courts in the US?

[Navy]

I didn't mean to do that. 

Yes...I want Muslims out of our country....the one's who come here and don't assimilate and try and set up their own laws and no go zone towns.We are not alike and you need to go home and make your country what you want it to be. We will not let our country fall to your insanity like Europe is. 

I didn't know of any 'religious' courts. Can you give a link to where I can learn what you are talking about?