watch this

[ImStillMags Mags]

what else you got to do

so important

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=MY8Nfzcn1qQ

[ImStillMags Mags]

dude.....watch this, people.   seriously

[Lobo]

<<what else you got to do>>

For an hour and 18 minutes? I'm sure I can think of something.

What's the gist of it? That we're all being Controlled by shadowy forces?

[plainolamerican]

spot on ... an old conspiracy revamped.

[ImStillMags Mags]

made clearer......   might make some think....    if they make the decision to think.

[herman]

Think about what?

Satanic rituals and child sex abuse?

That Hillary Clinton and DNC officials were operating a child sex trafficking ring from a pizza parlor?

[ImStillMags Mags]

think.

that maybe, just maybe, you have not seen, heard, or understood what is right there.....

look up

look around

unleash your mind and consciousness from its limitations

everything is not as it seems

or not, your choice.

[herman]

Again, we're supposed to think that Hillary Clinton and the DNC were using a pizza restaurant as a front for a child sex trafficking ring?

[Lobo]

<<made clearer......   might make some think....    if they make the decision to think.>>

I try not to, but my brain keeps coming after me with thoughts anyway. It's really annoying at times.

[ImStillMags Mags]

up to you, think what you will.

[herman]

A negative review of the movie from the more liberal Daily Kos read in part, “[The documentary is] merely a mask for a hodgepodge of conspiracy theories associated with QAnon and its linear ancestor, Pizzagate.”

[ImStillMags Mags]

ok.   if you prefer to let someone else tell you what to think and what your opinions are....fine.

anymore I strongly prefer to look at and pick apart things for myself and then decide, using my intuition and discernment, what feels right or true to me.

but to do that I, and all of us,  have to be willing to put all our programming and brainwashing on the table to be looked at.....and I'm not just talking about this particular documentary.

[herman]

But you're okay with the people in this film telling you "what to think and what your opinions are".

Especially with the not-proven parts.

And with the conspiracy theories.

I'm not you, Mags.  I prefer facts, common sense, and logic to conspiracy theories and rehashes of debunked political smears.

[ImStillMags Mags]

Where did I say I agreed with what was said, and where did I say that I espoused their information as truth?

Don't put words in my mouth, Herman.   You tend to jump to conclusions.

I read and watch a great deal.

I bring stuff I find interesting to this board.

It's up to the people here to read/watch or not and form their own opinions and ideas.

[herman]

I  haven't put words in your mouth, mags.

You told me I prefer to "let someone else tell you what to think and what your opinions are" if I don't take your QAnon crap seriously.  If I don't watch the debunked smear against the DNC and "think about it".

None of this shit is proven - the pizza child sex abuse claim is false - yet you find it "interesting"????

You're not being open to things, Mags.  You're finding extreme right-wing (QAnon) lies that confirm your prejudice against the DNC and spreading it.

Moreover, you could be an unwitting putin puppet - you might well be helping his military's intervention in our election on trump's behalf.

[herman]

"Interesting"?  Not by a long shot.  But, hey, why not disseminate far-right-wing lies and conspiracy theories....

https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/out-of-shadows-is-a-qanon-film-going-viral/

April 14, 2020

"Out of Shadows" Is a QAnon Film Going Viral

Conspiracy theorists have released a new film that has been viewed almost 5 million times since it was uploaded ​to YouTube on April 10. The ​77-minute “documentary” is an homage to the founding tenets of ​the “Pizzagate​” and QAnon ​conspiracy theories, presented with professional production quality and storytelling.

“Out of Shadows” sends viewers down a red-pill rabbit hole with former stuntman and actor Mike Smith​, who begins the film by recounting a physical therapist ​who told him to investigate satanic child sex abuse. As Smith becomes convinced of the evil of the occult and its presence around him in Hollywood, he descends ever deeper into conspiracy theories for the rest of the film, ​convinced that major media outlets are covering up satanic ritual​s and child sex abuse. Claims that elite figures in the media, business, Hollywood, and politics are engaging in ​such evil​ acts are central to the QAnon conspiracy theory.

Smith spends a portion of the film alleging that major entertainment companies are intentionally broadcasting occult symbols and “programming” Americans’ thoughts and behaviors with their content. The film’s producers turn to former stuntman Brad Martin, former CIA officer turned right-wing conspiracy theorist Kevin Shipp, and QAnon and Pizzagate-obsessed “journalist” Liz Crokin to support Smith’s claims.

​The film begins in some truth but quickly devolves into conspiracy theories. The beginning of the film references true, often-sordid operations that the United States government has engaged in, such as the CIA project “MK Ultra,” ​which experimented with psychedelic drugs for mind control​. The film builds upon ​such operations to argue the veracity of​ modern conspiracy theories ​such as “Pizzagate,” which​ posits that high-rank Democratic officials were operating a child sex trafficking right out of a Washington​, D.C., pizza restaurant. The conspiracy theory led​ a gunman​ to enter​ the establishment and fire​ a rifle​ in 2016. ​

The latter portion of the documentary features Crokin, who is spotlighted as a legitimate ​journalist who helped Smith come to terms with the disturbing things he had become convinced of. Smith said that Crokin was “the only person who was talking about this stuff​” ​but​ that ​the mainstream media had declared Crokin “completely out of her mind.” Crokin’s portion ​of the film is titled “Pizzagate: Fact or Fiction?”

“Not only is the mainstream media complicit—I would argue that they’re accessories in the crimes against children,” Crokin said in the film, accusing​ the press of “redefining” what the Pizzagate conspiracy theory was to make it sound less believable.

“Liz Crokin put herself so far out in front that she was mocked. She was laughed at. She was called crazy. Well​, let me ask you a question for all those people that did that to Liz: Does she seem so crazy now?” Smith asks.

Just last month, Crokin claimed that celebrities were catching the COVID-19 coronavirus from a tainted “adrenochrome supply,” which Corkin says is “extracted from the pituitary gland of tortured children.” She also claimed that coronavirus was really just a cover for the Trump administration to make mass arrests long promised by ​Qanon conspiracy theorists (and which still have yet to materialize).

During one part of the film, Smith reveals himself to be operating a nameless Twitter account that currently has a QAnon hashtag in its bio and is littered with pro-QAnon content. Part of Smith’s promotion strategy for the film has included appearing on programs hosted by top QAnon-content creators, such as the user “intheMatrixxx.”

Other viral conspiracy theory videos online pale in comparison to the explosive reach of “Out of Shadows,” which is particularly perplexing given the film​’s lack of mass-marketing and advertising. It is also unclear how the film was funded. The description for the film states that it was “the result of two years of blood, sweat, and tears by a team of woke professionals” and was “independently funded and produced.”

[herman]

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/04/wellness-qanon-coronavirus/

Wellness Influencers Are Spreading QAnon Conspiracies about the Coronavirus

Wellness influencers have been having a field day over the coronavirus, with some taking advantage of people’s fears to hawk unproven supplements and drive traffic to their sites. A few have even touted forsythia as a natural treatment, stealing a plot point verbatim from Contagion, the prescient 2011 Hollywood film that warned about the danger of medical misinformation in a pandemic.

Some have fused wellness hoaxes and pseudoscientific homeopathic treatments with QAnon and other far-right conspiracies. One such notable influencer is Joseph Arena, a chiropractor who uses the title “Dr.” and has more than 40,000 followers. Arena has pushed explicit QAnon theories about massive pedophile rings run by the deep state on his Instagram account and has directed his followers to pro-QAnon pages to find “the truth.”

“All of the FEMA camps and hospital beds that are being created to take in the millions of people who we are about to save. Get ready, it is about to start,” Arena said in a Instagram story last Tuesday, regurgitating a modified version of a conspiracy theory that first surfaced in the 1970s about Federal Emergency Management Agency plans to put people in concentration camps under the pretense of martial law. (Arena responded to a request for comment by threatening legal action if his name was included in this story.)

Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai, a biology PhD, is an anti-vaxxer who says he invented email—a claim which has been rejected by journalists and historians. On Instagram, where he has nearly 100,000 followers, he pushes QAnon-styled conspiracies about “deep state” federal bureaucrats working to undermine President Trump’s efforts to take down a pedophile ring run by a cabal of liberal and Hollywood elites. One of Ayyadurai’s most recent posts says that the coronavirus is a tool for the “deep state” in “consolidating its Power using its protected class of Hollywood & Academic whores.”

Azadeh Ghafari, a licensed psychotherapist who runs the Instagram account the.wellness.therapist, has long tracked the alternative medicine and pseudoscience community on the platform. She says the wellness influencers who have been pushing snake-oil coronavirus cures are a bizarre turn from what she’s used to seeing.

“It’s unlike what I’ve looked at before. You would assume these hippies are progressives,” she said. “There is this faction of ultra-conservative, some Christian, mixed in with anti-vaxxers, mixed in with health and lifestyle folks.”

“These folks have latched onto these wellness, holistic, spaces. They use scientific language, and then they layer pseudoscience on top if it. It sounds like they know what they’re talking about, because they use certain expressions that make sense, but then add false things to that,” Gharafi added.

While the coronavirus appears to have accelerated the spread of QAnon believers and beliefs into online wellness and anti-vaxx spaces, cross-pollination between the communities has been bubbling for at least a couple years. Travis View, an independent conspiracy theory researcher who hosts the podcast QAnon Anonymous, pointed out the case of Jennifer Mac, a lifestyle blogger who rebranded toward the end of 2018 as a QAnon follower. 

“Wellness bloggers are generally anti-establishment and anti-mainstream narrative and distrustful of authority, which lines up with QAnon’s populist message,” View said on the phone. “The thing about QAnon is that it is a fairly large online audience of people who are looking for validation. If you are in the business of building an audience, QAnon followers can be a valuable pool to draw from.”

Rose Henges, a Christian mom blogger and YouTube creator with almost 79,000 followers on Instagram, has also drawn from Q’s waters. As BuzzFeed News has noted, on her Instagram account she spreads QAnon conspiracies next to posts about “holistic living.” Henges has shared baseless claims about impending “military tribunals,” and how the “deep state planned this as a real pandemic” to distract from supposed plans for children who have been “farmed” and are living underground. 

Angel Quintana, another wellness Instagram influencer, has posted conspiracies about how the coronavirus is “an alien depopulation agenda” and that the disease is only contracted through “tainted adrenochrome” injections or radiation from 5G cellular installations, playing on a larger unsubstantiated and persistent conspiracy theory about such communication towers. In one Instagram TV video, she describes when she “stumbled on a video from one of our QAnons” that discussed “the tunnels in New York City potentially where they have been doing some of the child trafficking—storing the children over the years…for sacrificing and using their blood in the adrenochrome.”

While other wellness influencers have stopped short of posting outright QAnon material, they have shared other outlandish far-right conspiracy theories. Janny Organically, a holistic medicine influencer with over 60 thousand followers whose display name is “Reflexive Contrarian,” has pushed a conspiracy about Dr. Anthony Fauci being tied to George Soros. Theories that Soros, the liberal megadonor, has an invisible hand in major world affairs to the perceived detriment of Republicans are a go to anti-Semitic conspiracy for right-wingers.

Some of these wellness influencers now dabbling in conspiracy tout doctor or medical credentials unrelated to epidemiology. Kelly Brogan, who has a medical degree and is trained in psychiatry, has posted conspiracy theories to her verified Instagram account about Bill Gates’ supposed conflicts of interest related to the coronavirus, while pushing other theories about how the “mainstream media narrative” about the virus is a coverup. Last week, she posted videos of conspiracy theorist David Icke, who has been banned from Australia for denying the holocaust.

Rashid Buttar is another influencer with over 10,000 followers on Instagram with a long history of pushing alternative medicine; while he touts his credentials as a medical doctor, he was charged by the North Carolina Medical Board in 2008 for unprofessional conduct after charging “exorbitant fees” to cancer patients, three of whom died, for “ineffectual therapies.” Recently, he’s been pushing fringe theories about the coronavirus’s link to 5G, and that it was intentionally engineered to spur crackdowns on civil liberties. 

Janny Organically’s display name, Reflexive Contrarian, describes the prevailing ethos of the most fringe members of the wellness community. While they fuse dubious homeopathy with outlandish far-right hoaxes, they usually don’t otherwise explicitly espouse far-right ideologies. While other types of conspiracy theorists draw lines between figures that they do and don’t trust, these wellness influencers more commonly antagonize all mainstream narratives,  replacing them with whatever they think makes more sense. Instead of throwing their support behind one hero, and opposing anyone else who thwarts their narrative, as other conspiracy communities do, you’ll see them target Trump, Fauci, Gates, and the federal government broadly, all in the same Instagram story series.

Ghafari says some skepticism of the medical community is a natural reaction to a history of groups being spurned and ignored, pointing to communities of color who have been mistreated by the medical system. But she noted what’s happening in wellness influencer circles, which are often dominated by well-off white people, as something different. 

“When I see this behavior happening, there’s a level of fear going on, particularly in the white community. They feel out of control, they don’t know who to trust, and it’s manifested in this manner,” she said. Ironically, their pronouncements create new problems by spreading harmful, untrustworthy misinformation to large groups of followers. “It’s distributing,” she said.

[ImStillMags Mags]

remember I said:

"I read and watch a great deal.

I bring stuff I find interesting to this board.

It's up to the people here to read/watch or not and form their own opinions and ideas."

Well, you've obviously formed your opinions and ideas.     I don't have to agree with them.

[herman]

What is presented here is nothing but far-right lies, Mags.  Moreover, in the process of pretending there is even a shred of evidence to the conspiracy theories, you're pandering to those who seek to drive voters away from supporting Biden and other Democrats in November.

I have no idea why you would choose to advance trump's return to the WH.  

Taking revenge against those you hold responsible for Bernie's failure to be the nominee - the DNC and "establishment Democrats" - seems to me a trivial reason for working against holding trump to one term.

[ImStillMags Mags]

you've jumped to conclusions again based on your opinions and beliefs.