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Navy

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Sep 15, 2025, 8:56:14 AM9/15/25
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That was interesting...and shows Charlie was open to listening and kind in his responses.

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Irie

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Sep 15, 2025, 10:51:22 AM9/15/25
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Every time that I have ever seen him speak he was respectful...that's why I am so confused why, for example, our resident leftists bloviate about how he was so hateful. Whomever they get their talking points from is just ill-informed....or willfully ignorant.

Navy

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Sep 15, 2025, 10:53:56 AM9/15/25
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They live in a fish bowl...an echo chamber. This will cost them.


Navy

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Sep 15, 2025, 10:54:07 AM9/15/25
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I-think4me

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Sep 15, 2025, 12:37:51 PM9/15/25
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Respectful?  God  says you are an abomination, but we will accept your votes and pray that God fixes you, is respectful?

Perverting DEI  purpose to claim it is a program that lowers the standards to hire black people who are otherwise too dumb to get a job is respectful?

Telling the world that democrats, millions of Americans,  stand for everything God hates,  is respectful?  Urging pastors to spread that message from their pulpits is respectful?

Irie

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Sep 15, 2025, 12:41:57 PM9/15/25
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Cute way of twisting his words.

I-think4me

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Sep 15, 2025, 1:47:51 PM9/15/25
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Cute way of ignoring his words.

Why don’t you give me a positive spin on
  “The Democrat Party supports everything that God hates,” 

Show the respect and kindness in telling your millions of followers that half of their fellow country men are hated by God.

Navy

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Sep 15, 2025, 2:34:00 PM9/15/25
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How about telling half of America they are deplorables? Terrorists ? Sound familar?????

Navy

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Sep 15, 2025, 2:34:39 PM9/15/25
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Yet you feel like you deserve respect and kindness? Plueeez!

On Monday, September 15, 2025 at 12:47:51 PM UTC-5 I-think4me wrote:

I-think4me

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Sep 15, 2025, 2:38:42 PM9/15/25
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Irie

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Sep 15, 2025, 2:38:55 PM9/15/25
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You think God is good with killing the unborn and disfiguring kids?

On Monday, September 15, 2025 at 12:47:51 PM UTC-5 I-think4me wrote:

I-think4me

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Sep 15, 2025, 2:43:19 PM9/15/25
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Yet you feel like you deserve respect and kindness? Plueeez!

Has nothing to do with my feelings. 
Simply pointing out the bs of y’all trying to rewrite Charlie Kirk as this kind loving person filled with respect for his fellow man. 
Fact he made himself very rich off of deliberately sowing hatred . The fact that he wrapped it up in this mantle of Christianity doesn’t excuse the overt racism and misogyny.
On Monday, September 15, 2025 at 1:34:39 PM UTC-5 Navy wrote:

Lobo

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Sep 15, 2025, 6:25:45 PM9/15/25
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<< You think God is good with killing the unborn and disfiguring kids?  >>

Do you believe that your God created black and other people as intellectually "inferior" to white people?

Does your God want America to do away with separation of religion and state, and turn into a "Christian Republic" (run by someone like Charlie Kirk's particular version of Christianity)?

BTW: Would that be the same God who had no problem slaughtering born children -- actual persons -- whether it was sending a couple of bears to rip forty children to death for mocking the bald head of one of his more vain prophets (Elisha, in Kings II: 2), or killing all the firstborn children of Egypt for Pharaoh pissing off Moses, or commanding his ancient Israelites to slaughter every "man, woman, child, and beast" in Canaan in order to steal their land from them (and is now commanding his modern Israelis to do the same thing to the men, women, children, and beasts of Gaza and the rest of Palestine...?)

Or, for that matter, who drowned however many people were supposed to be around in Noah's day, including adults, children, babies, and fetuses...?

Irie

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Sep 15, 2025, 6:38:15 PM9/15/25
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Do you believe that your God created black and other people as intellectually "inferior" to white people?

****No I don't, and that is why it is an insult to lower college and work requirements for them.

Does your God want America to do away with separation of religion and state, and turn into a "Christian Republic" (run by someone like Charlie Kirk's particular version of Christianity)?

****Charlie used to be able to have any opinion he wanted (until your antifa fuck killed him).  Just as you do with your insistence that we should get rid of the Electoral College.  I seriously doubt God would think MORE religion is a bad thing.


BTW: Would that be the same God who had no problem slaughtering born children -- actual persons -- whether it was sending a couple of bears to rip forty children to death for mocking the bald head of one of his more vain prophets (Elisha, in Kings II: 2), or killing all the firstborn children of Egypt for Pharaoh pissing off Moses, or commanding his ancient Israelites to slaughter every "man, woman, child, and beast" in Canaan in order to steal their land from them (and is now commanding his modern Israelis to do the same thing to the men, women, children, and beasts of Gaza and the rest of Palestine...?)

*****Most modern Christians (Charlie among them) “follow the New Testament” in the sense that they see Jesus as the fulfillment of God’s plan, and they treat his teachings and the apostles’ writings as their primary guide for faith and practice. The Old Testament remains important, but it is read through the lens of the New Testament.

Exposeposers

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Sep 15, 2025, 7:28:17 PM9/15/25
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LMFAO!  Now an Antifa Maga killed Kirk?  Delusional cultists continue backpeddling from their immediate Leftist  claims.

Irie

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Sep 15, 2025, 7:29:34 PM9/15/25
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Who said he was maga, besides you clowns?

Exposeposers

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Sep 15, 2025, 7:30:58 PM9/15/25
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The authorities, dummy.

Irie

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Sep 15, 2025, 7:32:54 PM9/15/25
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Cite it, dipshit.

plainolamerican

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Sep 15, 2025, 7:33:47 PM9/15/25
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Every time that I have ever seen him speak he was respectful..
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It's not about his politeness, it's about what he advocated.
He was a xian nationalist and will be remembered as such.

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Irie

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Sep 15, 2025, 7:36:45 PM9/15/25
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Be ignorant less.  Thanks

The individual responsible for the fatal shooting of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, identified as 22-year-old Tyler Robinson, does not appear to have been affiliated with the MAGA movement.

Robinson was arrested on September 12, 2025, after a two-day manhunt. Authorities have described the attack as ideologically motivated, with Robinson reportedly harboring anti-fascist sentiments. Investigations revealed that he had been involved in online communities associated with left-wing ideologies, including the "furry" subculture, and had expressed disdain for Kirk's conservative views. 

Irie

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Sep 15, 2025, 7:37:42 PM9/15/25
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Bullshit according to fact checkers.  

Rick Richardson

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Sep 15, 2025, 7:41:31 PM9/15/25
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Charlie wsa an old testmaent christian 

Charlie Kirk wanted Christian faith to be his legacy. What did he believe?
Portrait of Taylor SeelyTaylor Seely
Arizona Republic
  • Charlie Kirk considered his religious faith his most important legacy.
  • Kirk criticized the separation of church and state, believing Christian morals should influence lawmaking.
  • Kirk and his wife promoted the idea of "biblical submission" for women within marriage.

Charlie Kirk became a political force known for galvanizing the youth behind President Donald Trump. But his religious faith was the legacy he said he hoped would endure.

"I want to be remembered for courage for my faith. That would be the most important. The most important thing is my faith," Kirk said in June on a podcast.

In his debates and speeches and on his internet broadcast, "The Charlie Kirk Show," he pressed conservative views and stumped for Republican politicians. He encouraged listeners to follow God, marry young, have children and prioritize family.

He stressed Judeo-Christian values and regularly spoke at Dream City Church in Phoenix. The church is Pentecostal, a branch of Protestantism. Its Pastor Luke Barnett said he met Kirk in 2020, after Kirk had started attending the church and sought to rent out the space. It's not clear whether Dream City was Kirk's official home church.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/arizona/2025/09/14/charlie-kirk-christian-religious-beliefs-shaped-advocacy/86116403007/


Judeo-Christian values are the shared ethical and moral principles derived from the foundational texts of Judaism and Christianity, particularly the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament). Key values include the belief in a single God, the inherent dignity and worth of all human beings created in God's image, objective moral truths, the sanctity of life, personal responsibility, and compassion for others. These values are seen as the bedrock of Western civilization, emphasizing love for God and neighbor, justice, and a moral framework for ethical living.

https://www.google.com/search?q=judeo-christian+values+meaning&oq=Judeo-Christian+values&aqs=chrome.1.0i273i512i650j0i512l2j0i22i30l7.6606j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 


Exposeposers

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Sep 15, 2025, 7:45:43 PM9/15/25
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Ron Filipkowski, editor-in-chief of Meidas Touch, wrote on X: "So after days of Republicans blaming and vilifying Democrats and trans people for Kirk's murder despite having no clue who the person was, we find out it's a white guy from a Republican family in Utah who loved guns."

Actor Billy Baldwin, citing the Daily Mail report, said the following on X: "Not Black.
Not Trans. Not Muslim. Not an Immigrant. Not a Democrat. Meet Charlie Kirk assassin Tyler Robinson. A white Christian, Conservative, Republican male with a gun... again."

Andrea Junker, a self-proclaimed "voice against Trumpism" with more than 256,000 X followers, wrote on the platform: "So Tyler Robinson, Charlie Kirk's killer, is neither a Democrat, nor transgender, nor an immigrant, but instead a 22-year-old white guy from a Republican family in Utah who loves guns and wore a Donald Trump costume on Halloween. — Did I get that right?"

"Well, well, well...Tyler Robinson, the person who shot and killed Charlie Kirk...Not trans. Not an immigrant. Not a 'radical leftist.' Just a straight, white male. Where are the apologies? I can't hear any over all these crickets," wrote BrooklynDad_Defiant!, a Democrat who has 1.3 million X followers.

Singer-songwriter and anti-Trumper Bill Madden, who has over 327,000 followers, wrote on X: "Apparently, this educated white Christian son of a sheriff, Tyler Robinson, was groomed in all the ways MAGA likes."

He posted a picture from Amber Jones Robinson's Facebook page, dated June 10, 2017, showing the suspect holding a rocket launcher.

Ballwasher, suck on this.

I-think4me

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Sep 15, 2025, 7:46:34 PM9/15/25
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You think God is good with killing the unborn and disfiguring kids?

Numbers 5: 23-27

23 “‘The priest is to write these curses on a scroll and then wash them off into the bitter water. 24 He shall make the woman drink the bitter water that brings a curse, and this water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering will enter her. 25 The priest is to take from her hands the grain offering for jealousy, wave it before the Lord and bring it to the altar. 26 The priest is then to take a handful of the grain offering as a memorial[c] offeringand burn it on the altar; after that, he is to have the woman drink the water.27 If she has made herself impure and been unfaithful to her husband, this will be the result: When she is made to drink the water that brings a curse and causes bitter suffering, it will enter her, her abdomen will swell and her womb will miscarry, and she will become a curse.

Irie

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Sep 15, 2025, 7:49:15 PM9/15/25
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Did I not already weigh in on the old vs new testament...yes, yes I did.

plainolamerican

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Sep 15, 2025, 7:53:46 PM9/15/25
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The individual responsible for the fatal shooting of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, identified as 22-year-old Tyler Robinson, does not appear to have been affiliated with the MAGA movement.
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Not true.
Witnesses testified that he and his parents were Trump supporters.

Irie

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Sep 15, 2025, 8:03:32 PM9/15/25
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You want to quote a reputable source that supports the claim?  Poser evidently gave up.

I-think4me

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Sep 15, 2025, 8:17:27 PM9/15/25
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Did I not already weigh in on the old vs new testament...yes, yes I did.

Ah hadn’t seen that.  
Now that I have…… LOL! So that was a different God? Guess we can do away with all this posting the 10 commandments in our schools nonsense as the Old Testament no longer counts as God’s words. 
So the only time the Bible mentions abortion is to instruct a priest when and how to perform one. Funny GOD failed to mention his hatred of abortion, but had no trouble listing the things that he actually found as abominations.

Lobo

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Sep 15, 2025, 8:37:32 PM9/15/25
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<<Do you believe that your God created black and other people as intellectually "inferior" to white people?
****No I don't, and that is why it is an insult to lower college and work requirements for them.>>

That's not what Charlie Kirk was saying. 

Besides, affirmative action and grading on a curve is necessary where institutional racism and sexism creates barriers, and where blacks were brought up in situations that discouraged schooling and intellectual achievement.

<<Does your God want America to do away with separation of religion and state, and turn into a "Christian Republic" (run by someone like Charlie Kirk's particular version of Christianity)?

****Charlie used to be able to have any opinion he wanted (until your antifa fuck killed him).  Just as you do with your insistence that we should get rid of the Electoral College.  I seriously doubt God would think MORE religion is a bad thing.>>

Do you have some evidence that he's with "Antifa"?

We don't know what Robinson's motives were, or what his politics were. Only that he had an "obsession with Charlie Kirk".

People living in theocracies like Iran and Saudi Arabia "have opinions". That's hardly the same thing as the government abandoning secularism -- neutrality in matters of religion -- and becoming a theocracy. 

Separation of religion and government is one of our republic's most fundamental values. The Electoral College was just a compromise between large and small states to get them to sign the Constitution, at a pre-Civil War time when states were little more than sovereign countries. The only purpose it serves now is to allow Republicans far more power than their numbers in the country warrant.

<<*****Most modern Christians (Charlie among them) “follow the New Testament” in the sense that they see Jesus as the fulfillment of God’s plan, and they treat his teachings and the apostles’ writings as their primary guide for faith and practice. The Old Testament remains important, but it is read through the lens of the New Testament.>>

It's still the same God, isn't it?

On Monday, September 15, 2025 at 6:38:15 PM UTC-4 Irie wrote:

plainolamerican

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Sep 15, 2025, 8:39:47 PM9/15/25
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Bullshit according to fact checkers.
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Hogwash.

Irie

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Sep 15, 2025, 8:41:15 PM9/15/25
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I have no qualms with NOT post the 10 commandments. Really, why teach kids those morals....those lessons are so blasè afterall.
You see no delineation between the old and new testament then.  Got it. As I am not a theologian I'll accept both of our ignorance.

Irie

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Sep 15, 2025, 8:43:23 PM9/15/25
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That is EXACTLY what he was saying!!

When your bullet casing is etched with "hey fascist, catch" do ai need more evidence of him being an antifa puke?

Irie

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Sep 15, 2025, 8:46:11 PM9/15/25
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Youtube ain't getting it, brother.
Cite something academic...or atleast respected.

I-think4me

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Sep 15, 2025, 8:49:51 PM9/15/25
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When your bullet casing is etched with "hey fascist, catch" do ai need more evidence of him being an antifa puke?

So every American who is against fascism is Antifa?  Bet that would come as a big surprise to most WWII vets.

Irie

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Sep 15, 2025, 9:00:02 PM9/15/25
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If you are capping peaceful dudes for debating politics peacefully, and etching your shit with antifa shit.. you are an abtifa puke.
Did I really have to say that?

Check out my post on leftists redefining terms...

Lobo

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Sep 15, 2025, 9:09:43 PM9/15/25
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He sounded to me like he was saying that black women are intellectually inferior. And still does when I rewatch him talking about it.

<<When your bullet casing is etched with "hey fascist, catch" do ai need more evidence of him being an antifa puke?>>

Opposing fascism makes a person a puke?

Lobo

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Sep 15, 2025, 9:12:02 PM9/15/25
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<< Check out my post on leftists redefining terms...  >>

Read one of mine on defining "fascism".

Lobo

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Sep 15, 2025, 9:16:48 PM9/15/25
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<< If you are capping peaceful dudes for debating politics peacefully, and etching your shit with antifa shit.. you are an abtifa puke.
Did I really have to say that?>>

Shooting people who push fascism is not the answer, but that doesn't make the fascism itself any less awful or or unacceptable.

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Irie

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Sep 15, 2025, 9:31:20 PM9/15/25
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He was pointing out how, when a race is held to a lower standard, qualificatio s might be questio ed.

Etching antifa shit on a bullet casing and assasinating someone certainly makes them a piece of shit puke.  Did you really have to ask that question?

I-think4me

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Sep 15, 2025, 10:02:12 PM9/15/25
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He was pointing out how, when a race is held to a lower standard, qualificatio s might be questio ed.

The assumption that these people are held to a lower standard is false. A lie made up by rascist asshats that resent any effort to level the playing field. To accept that the playing field is not level would require them to first accept that these people are not inferior, but have instead had the deck stacked against them .

Irie

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Sep 15, 2025, 10:08:30 PM9/15/25
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So it is your claim that admittance/employment standards are NOT different based on race...be specific..  


Lobo

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Sep 15, 2025, 10:08:50 PM9/15/25
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That's what he actually "meant" by saying that "black women do not have the brain processing power to be taken seriously. You had to go take a white person's slot to be taken somewhat seriously"?

I don't think so.

<<Etching antifa shit on a bullet casing and assasinating someone certainly makes them a piece of shit puke.  Did you really have to ask that question?>>

Shooting people is bad. Being antifascist ("antifa") is good. I don't know how much simpler I can make it.

Irie

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Sep 15, 2025, 10:15:47 PM9/15/25
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You might not "think" so,  but that don't make it so....
But hey, the leftist antifa fucks can assisinate him because he doesn't slurp their leftist group think...right?


Lobo

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Sep 15, 2025, 10:31:26 PM9/15/25
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You might want him to have meant something else, but I'm afraid "black women do not have the brain processing power to be taken seriously" pretty much speaks for itself.


<<But hey, the leftist antifa fucks can assisinate him because he doesn't slurp their leftist group think...right?>>

No, as I've said a thousand times here. But opponents of fascism are not obliged to mourn him as some kind of martyr or National Hero either.

Irie

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Sep 15, 2025, 10:41:22 PM9/15/25
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Your take on shit doesn't supersede the person who actually took the stance 

Lobo

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Sep 15, 2025, 10:50:45 PM9/15/25
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Neither does yours. 

I'm going by what he actually said. Not something else that I think he might have "meant".

Irie

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Sep 15, 2025, 10:54:46 PM9/15/25
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No, you are going by what you think he meant....don't fucking jerk me

I-think4me

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Sep 15, 2025, 10:55:03 PM9/15/25
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DEI does not lower standards or have different standards for hiring. If it did the companies that enact DEI policies would not out perform those that don’t.

The May 19, 2020 McKinsey report,Diversity Wins, found that companies in the top quartile for gender diversity on executive teams were 25% more likely to achieve above-average profitability. For ethnic and cultural diversity, the performance gap was even greater—companies with more diverse executive teams reported 36% higher profitability in comparison to the least diverse companies. Similarly, Harvard Business Review reported that diverse companies are 70% more likely to capture new markets than those that do not actively recruit and support underrepresented talent.

Irie

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Sep 15, 2025, 10:58:43 PM9/15/25
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In higher education admissions in the U.S., affirmative action has typically meant that race or ethnicity (and sometimes other factors like socioeconomic background) could be considered as one factor among many in a holistic review process.

Lobo

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Sep 15, 2025, 10:59:37 PM9/15/25
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Why would "black women do not have the brain processing power to be taken seriously" mean anything but 
"black women do not have the brain processing power to be taken seriously"?

Susiejoe

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Sep 15, 2025, 11:58:31 PM9/15/25
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Yes Irie.  WHOEVER they get their talking points from has brainwashed them.  They are indoctrinated the same as those caught in a cult.  This is why you cannot hold rational argument with them. 

Susiejoe

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Sep 16, 2025, 12:18:09 AM9/16/25
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Who do you think you are fooling by misquoting Charlie Kirk?  He was  talking about some specific women which he specifically named.  He happened to be totally on the mark.  Let we fix it for your lower level of understanding.  The sum total of all of those women's brains does not equal Barbara Jordan's brain - the woman who proved to this country there are highly intelligent black women.  But your F'king generation of democraps pick morons because you can't stand anyone smarter than yourselves.  

On Monday, September 15, 2025 at 1:38:42 PM UTC-5 I-think4me wrote:
A little more of Kirk’s respectful dialogue 

On Monday, September 15, 2025 at 1:34:39 PM UTC-5 Navy wrote:
Yet you feel like you deserve respect and kindness? Plueeez!


On Monday, September 15, 2025 at 12:47:51 PM UTC-5 I-think4me wrote:
Cute way of ignoring his words.

Why don’t you give me a positive spin on
  “The Democrat Party supports everything that God hates,” 

Show the respect and kindness in telling your millions of followers that half of their fellow country men are hated by God.

On Monday, September 15, 2025 at 11:41:57 AM UTC-5 Irie wrote:
Cute way of twisting his words.

On Monday, September 15, 2025 at 11:37:51 AM UTC-5 I-think4me wrote:

Respectful?  God  says you are an abomination, but we will accept your votes and pray that God fixes you, is respectful?

Perverting DEI  purpose to claim it is a program that lowers the standards to hire black people who are otherwise too dumb to get a job is respectful?

Telling the world that democrats, millions of Americans,  stand for everything God hates,  is respectful?  Urging pastors to spread that message from their pulpits is respectful?




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