CNN deleted a post Tuesday that portrayed two individuals with suspected ties to ISIS as two teenagers trying to enjoy the nice weather in New York City.

[Irie]

Why is radical Islam the only religion the leftists support?

[Lobo]

Coming from someone who actually believes that the United States is in serious danger of trading in the Constitution for Sharia Law...

As for CNN: Don't worry. Dear Leader is on the cusp of transforming it into another FOX-like MAGA State Media, by ordering "his" Justice Dept ignore the word and spirit of AntiTrust Law, and allowing yet another MAGA billionaire Oligarch to effect a clearly illegal merger, further consolidating media ownership in America from a near-monopoly of only five megacorporations down to only four.

I have to give Trump one thing. It took his role model Putin the better part of a decade to stifle press freedom and independence in Russia as much as Trump has done here in just a little over a year.

[Irie]

Care to quote me EVER stating as much?

[Irie]

Have you seen the sad state of affairs Britian is enduring due to their open door policies?

On Wednesday, March 11, 2026 at 12:56:51 PM UTC-5 Lobo wrote:

[Lobo]

If that's not what you meant by the "Islamification of America", then what did you mean?

https://groups.google.com/g/political-euwetopia/c/YW30U3ck5yQ/m/bqIV9XPsAwAJ

Stand against Islamification Of America

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ME<<Do you believe that the "Islamification of America" is a real thing; a serious threat?

Or that fascism is not?>>

YOU<<I know that islamification is a threat and that your (et al) histrionic concern for fascism is less of a concern.>>

BTW: Fascism in one form or another -- ultra-right authoritarianism -- has been a constant threat to American democracy for well over a century. Christian Nationalism even longer. But Muslims all told barely make up 1% of the US population, and the percentage of them who are religious fundamentalists wanting to impose Sharia on the country is tiny and pretty much completely powerless.

Muslim immigrants to America, like the thousands who came here when Afghanistan fell to the Taliban, nearly all come here to escape from that shit.

[Irie]

Islamification and Sharia are not synonymous, though they are related. Sharia is the divine, [interpretive framework of Islamic law and ethics derived from the Quran and Sunnah. Islamification refers to the process of increasing Islamic influence in society, culture, or government, whereas Sharia is the legal/ethical code itself. 

Wikipedia +4

[BEZARK]

islamification

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Is he really that stupid?

[Irie]

Islamification (or Islamization) refers to the historical and ongoing process by which a society shifts towards the religion of Islam, becoming largely Muslim in its social, cultural, and political structures. It has occurred over centuries across regions like the Middle East, North Africa, and Southeast Asia. In contemporary, often political discourse, it is sometimes used to describe the perceived imposition of Islamic systems on secular or non-Muslim societies.

Quit huffing.

[Irie]

Be stupid less.

[Lobo]

How is that happening in America?

American Muslims make up around 1% of the US population. Fundamentalist American Muslims who want to live under  anything but a secular, pluralist, Constitutionalist democratic republic only make up a tiny percentage of that 1%; about the same as the percentage of American Christians who are Christian Nationalists, and want to live under Biblical Law in a fundamentalist Christian theocracy.

There are only three American Muslims in Congress, and none there who believe in anything but free, democratic, Constitutional principles. Which can't be said for every American Christian in our government.

QAs for society and culture, if American Muslims can convert others to their religion, how is that any different than Christians, Jews, Hindus, Wiccans, atheists, or others doing the same?

It's a little thing called "freedom of religion"...

[Lobo]

<< Islamification (or Islamization) refers to the historical and ongoing process by which a society shifts towards the religion of Islam, becoming largely Muslim in its social, cultural, and political structures. It has occurred over centuries across regions like the Middle East, North Africa, and Southeast Asia.  >>

That's been true for Christians and Muslims alike since their beginnings. Secularization and democratization didn't start in earnest around the world until the 20th century.

<<In contemporary, often political discourse, it is sometimes used to describe the perceived imposition of Islamic systems on secular or non-Muslim societies.>>

Where and when has that happened?

It's true that in recent decades some historically Muslim countries have backtracked from 20th century democracy and pluralism to religious fundamentalism (as Christian Nationalists have been trying to do with Christian fundamentalist theocracy in America). 

[Irie]

Ask minneapolis.