Seattle Tape Sync

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Doug Kaye

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Jul 9, 2007, 4:57:32 PM7/9/07
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Here's an example of a tape-sync request I grabbed from the AIR email
list. I'm seeing about three or four each week, and I have a feeling
that if we created a formal system for brokering these requests (and
expanded it to the worlds of podcasters and international, not just
U.S. radio), we'd see many requests per day.

...doug

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> From: "Shia Levitt" <shial...@gmail.com>
> Date: July 9, 2007 1:20:27 PM PDT
> To: AIRD...@packard38.webcrossing.com
> Subject: Seattle tape sync
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> I'm looking for a stringer for a tape sync in Seattle, WA some time
> next week, for Sound Medicine.
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> Please reply off list.
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> Shia Levitt
> www.shialevitt.com/radio.html
> 202-545-0169
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Randy Maugans

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Jul 9, 2007, 5:15:34 PM7/9/07
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Doug-
I'm still getting up to speed on all this. What is a tape-sync stringer?

RandyM
www.surfingthechaos.com

Doug Kaye

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Jul 9, 2007, 5:21:06 PM7/9/07
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Hi, Randy.

Here's an introductory discussion about Tape Syncs:
http://www.conversationsnetwork.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=45

In the world of public radio (in particular), it's quite common for a
producer who wants to interview someone at a remote location to hire
someone near that location to go the interviewee's home or office to
record their end of the interview. It's also called a "double ender."
Instead of using a low-quality telephone track, the locally recorded
audio is combined with the studio in post production to make it sound
as though the live interview was done using high-quality audio gear
and recorders.

Right now, finding someone to do a tape sync is quite informal, and
producers at public-radio stations keep their own private lists of
people they can call upon. My thought is to add this as a feature of
PodCorps.org and make it available not only to U.S. public radio but
to the podcasting universe as well.

...doug

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Henry Howard

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Jul 9, 2007, 11:26:44 PM7/9/07
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Doug,
Some weeks back I suggested to the AIR board that a separate list for
individuals
interested in being contacted as strings be set up by geographic area.
The response was that stringers could be found by using the directory.
Further discussion followed showing how the current directory did NOT
meet
the need because the seeker would have to know all the different small
towns
around a major town to find someone, or have to do an entire state
search to locate
possible names.

The biggest problem that I see would be working around this geographic
issue.
The current system works fairly well for the seeker. As for the
stringer, it depends
on how closely they monitor their mail. For me, when I am in the
office, grabbing
jobs can be easy. However when I am out of office doing work,
recording, video shooting,
the job opportunities often pass me by.

Fortunately I have a good relationship with some of the producers that
need coverage
and they may contact me directly before posting.

Individuals interested in working the Public Radio market will need to
look at the rates payed
vs the time required to get to the site, do the interview, get home
and then upload the file.
Also be aware that the quality requirements are quite high for most of
these producers.
These opportunities often come up with very little lead time. I have
seen a few where the
need is "today". Most are usually in the next two or three days.
Flexibility of scheduling
is necessary.

In Atlanta, the time it takes to get anywhere and back can be a downer
when you look at
the rate. On the other hand, I have been on a number of very
interesting interviews and
met a number of great folks.

Doug Kaye

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Jul 10, 2007, 12:49:01 AM7/10/07
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Hi, Henry.

We've got all the location stuff solved using real latitude/
longitude, so we don't have to worry about small towns, etc. And
rather than a broadcast list, our system will send email only to
stringers who are within range and who have opted into tapesyncs. It
should be fairly easy to do given what we've already built. I've
traded a few messages with people at AIR. Let's see what they say.

...doug

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Paul Bearne

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Jul 10, 2007, 7:29:01 AM7/10/07
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Hi all

This could be a very good idea.

But if we start to get a number of "radio pro's" to sign up they may not want to any "free/podcast work" so a seres of check boxes in the profile to allow them to filter (if they want to) might be the answer

Looking for / will do

tapesyncs
conference record
event record
podcast
radio

etc.

This may allow us to get a lot of "sound pro's" to join in order to find work and this extra level of skill (and numbers) will help the less skilled and you never know they may well get the bug and start recording other stuff as well !!

Working as clearing house might not of be one of the aims but it is will work

Have you looked to see if radiocorps domain is available?

Paul

Doug Kaye

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Jul 10, 2007, 9:47:14 AM7/10/07
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> Have you looked to see if radiocorps domain is available?

No, but I just registered tapesync.org.

...doug

J Leslie Booth

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Jul 10, 2007, 10:44:47 AM7/10/07
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Doug ..  FYI

RADIOCORPS.ORG is available!

just checked through GoDaddy.com

les



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Steven Lubetkin

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Jul 10, 2007, 11:27:30 AM7/10/07
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I would agree. Those among us who are doing work for paying clients would not want to compete with people willing to work for no money.
 
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Paul Bearne

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Jul 10, 2007, 12:13:11 PM7/10/07
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Hi

The tick will be to present different front ends to "sell from" but keep back end merged so the strings can get work from a number of  sources and cross fertilize.

 Paul
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Steven Lubetkin

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Jul 10, 2007, 1:15:13 PM7/10/07
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That sounds fine. You just want to avoid creating a "microstock" industry of free stringers that puts people out of their livelihoods.
 

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Paul Bearne

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Jul 10, 2007, 1:29:02 PM7/10/07
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Yes

That why I feel there just be some septation to clearly indicated that this is paid work for expert engineers

In to which I don't fall !!
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Doug Kaye

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Jul 10, 2007, 1:39:21 PM7/10/07
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Maybe I'm being to naive -- it wouldn't be the first time -- but I think this will all work itself out if we provide an open marketplace.

First, I'm thinking that those seeking a tapesync should indicate the following via a form:
* Will pay a fee
* Will pay expenses only
* Looking for a freebie

Likewise, in their PodCorps profiles, stringers would indicate:
* Paid gigs only (and distance willing to travel)
* WIlling to do *some* activities for expenses only (and distance)
* Willing to do *some* activities for free (and distance)

When someone wants a tape sync, they answer the first set of questions. We then show them the stringers that meet their criteria.

What's not clear to me yet is what happens next:

1. We could allow seekers to contact stringers individually directly or through an web-based form.

2. We could automatically send email to matching stringers (without giving contact info to seekers) and let the stringers initiate contact.

3. We could do something else or all of the above.

    ...doug

Doug Kaye, Executive Director
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Paul Bearne

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Jul 10, 2007, 2:02:31 PM7/10/07
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provide a list of strings that match with the option to select/deselect stringers from the and "send gig" button to send an email to all the selected stringers (or/and a RSS feed somewhere) hiding the stringers email and allow string to conact directly enquirer directly

Just there be a method of the enquirer to indicated that there have filled the gig to stop other strings wasting time if maybe the reply should be by way of a web form

Or I could just complicating it to much


Paul



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J Leslie Booth

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Jul 10, 2007, 3:40:52 PM7/10/07
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Doug ...

as to the 'How we do the next part' ...

1) Keep the VARIABLES to a minimum and PodCorps' TIME to a minium.
a) Filtering the Stingers by their respective identifiers would be a good first act - done at the web interface;
b) Building the database of Stringers would be the main job of PodCorps;
c) Matching the Stringers w/ the appropriate Seeker could be done by PodCorps if a more 'direct action were needed';
c) But ... allowing the Seekers to 'pick' from a 'Pre-qualified' list of Stringers in 'their area' .. seems like a more efficeint way;
d) Making this available via a web interface would be the _most_ effecient way for PodCorp to retain an element of 'command & control' without investing a lot of 'direct hands-on' time and effort;
e) Utilize the technology to:
*front
*engage
*contact/contract
*track
*poll

This process would provide all three (3) entities (PodCorps, Seeker and Stringer) a complete record of the entire process - from start to finish.  

Such a system would provide tracking for the 'business' conducted as well as an KnowledgeBase for analyzing the efforts and its effectiveness: for improvement and development.

2).  PodCorp MUST not be seen ...
a) as undermining, or harming, the livelihood of practicing journalists/freelancers. 

I know PodCorp in no way seeks to harm in any shape or form ... but it's the 'perception by others' which we need to guard against harming.

Great topic and the entire process has - as I've said many times before - massive potential.  And I see these discussions as working out the kinks to make it so.

les

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