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Tamas Bates

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Oct 7, 2005, 12:13:57 AM10/7/05
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Could you please unsubscribe me from this list?

Mark Kanter

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Oct 10, 2005, 8:42:15 AM10/10/05
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OK. I'm curious, How many listeners do you all have
and how do you know for sure?

Anybody with really big numbers? What is considerered
really big numbers at this stage?







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DV

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Oct 10, 2005, 9:09:00 AM10/10/05
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I've heard of folks who have tens of thousands. I don't.

If I estimate my audience as the number of times a single episode is
downloaded in the span of a month, then I'd estimate that Spellbound has
about 1000 listeners, and Escape From Noise has about 250.


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Rick Klau

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Oct 10, 2005, 10:04:26 AM10/10/05
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Hi all -

There are a couple sites that use the FeedBurner awareness API to show feeds
& their subscriber stats (for those sites using FeedBurner, of course). This
might help give you some general idea of where various podcasts are at...

http://www.podfeed.net/feedburner_rankings.asp


Note that these are feeds for whom the stats are made public - there are
almost certainly feeds that use FeedBurner who've chosen to keep this info
private, which means you won't see them in this listing.

If you have any questions about the awareness API, there's more info here:

http://www.feedburner.com/fb/a/api/awareness

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mi...@concertblast.com

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Oct 10, 2005, 10:53:45 AM10/10/05
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Great Question!
Currently CONCERT BLAST! has a range of 180 to 250 a day.
I feel like when or if iTunes decides to add us, this would increase
greatly. When AOL and YAHOO! kick off their podcasting, everyone will get
many more listeners. We realize that anytime we do a show on the road
with audience participation, our numbers increase and our Podcast Alley
votes increase. What's really neat is I still get listeners to our first
show from last May. Each week all of our shows get listeners. Maybe
these are the new people coming to our site.

I get these stats from my webhost provider. They provide some excellent
stats as to which site they are coming from and which provider they use.
This is GLOBAT. Even what countries are listening.

Mike Arnold
CONCERT BLAST!
website: http://www.concertblast.com
RSS Feed: http://www.concertblast.com/shows.xml
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guilherme werneck

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Oct 10, 2005, 4:17:41 PM10/10/05
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Libsyn gives me some statistics. I have an avarage of 400 listener per show. But I just belive them, don't know for sure. What I do know is that I started e-mailing just a few friends and now lots of unknown people e-mail me and post at my blog/podcast.
 
Cheers
 
Guilherme

 

Candace Corrigan

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Oct 10, 2005, 11:03:30 PM10/10/05
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Dear folks,
You know, the FeedBurner stats for us have been and continue to be a
problem. Is anybody else experiencing this? Our FeedBurner stats do
not reflect the I-Podder X stats . ( over half of our numbers ). We
have been trying to fix this, but it is not fixed yet. Yikes.
Candace Corrigan
The Nashville Nobody Knows
as of yesterday, 5024 downloads of the last show ( put up last
thursday).

Dave Hitt

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Oct 11, 2005, 12:49:08 AM10/11/05
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I don't think Feedburner stats are very trustworthy - they're counting the
number of hits a show's RSS feed gets in a day. Some people check many
times a day, some every few days, and others once a week.

The only number that's reliable is the number of downloads. I usually get
about 400 a month for new shows, but my last one, which has been up for a
little over a week, is already at 576. I think the stats may be funky,
though, because the bandwidth should be higher. I may try a different web
stats analyzer on the raw logs to see if they're accurate.



robert

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Oct 11, 2005, 1:05:39 AM10/11/05
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Dave,

That is not how they are doing it. I am sure Rick can chime in with
a little more information.

But it is not a simple count of hits to your XML feed. They look at
unique hits to the Feed and use an Algorithm to do the final number.
Rick talked a little about this in my interview with him back in April.

I can say that by comparing my stats for Feedburner and Libsyn - the
numbers are pretty close. Close enough to believe both.

Rob W
podCast411

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Philip Hodgetts

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Oct 11, 2005, 2:26:15 AM10/11/05
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At 12:49 AM -0400 10/11/05, Dave Hitt wrote:
>I don't think Feedburner stats are very trustworthy - they're counting the
>number of hits a show's RSS feed gets in a day. Some people check many
>times a day, some every few days, and others once a week.
>
>The only number that's reliable is the number of downloads.

Actually, the only thing that's really reliable is to take the
bandwidth for a particular show and divide it by the file size. That
indicates a pretty good idea of successful downloads. (in web log
stats it will be the Requests)

If I counted hits on the XML file, it's over 10,000 listeners per
show. If I look at "requests" for each show it would be about 3x the
real number. If I do the bandwidth division, it's getting upward of
1500 per show at the moment, growing steadily.

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Fluox

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Oct 11, 2005, 7:11:50 AM10/11/05
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>Actually, the only thing that's really reliable is to take
>the bandwidth for a particular show and divide it by the file size.
>That indicates a pretty good idea of successful downloads.
>(in web log stats it will be the Requests)

You can lower that number by say 20%, because a lot of bandwidth is spoiled
by multiple downloads and applications that check for existance op a show.

Based on that calculation I get about 300 listeners to my show (Dutch
listeners).


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Onderwerp: RE: How many Listeners do you have?

Dave Hitt

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Oct 11, 2005, 12:57:14 PM10/11/05
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>>Actually, the only thing that's really reliable is to take the
bandwidth for a particular show and divide it by the file size. That
indicates a pretty good idea of successful downloads. (in web log
stats it will be the Requests)<<<

I never understood why this approach is necessary, unless your statistics
software won't tell you the number of downloads. Downloads are downloads.
And unless you've got a site that has nothing but your show on it, you've
got to account for bandwidth that's used to display your web pages.

>>>If I counted hits on the XML file, it's over 10,000 listeners per
show. If I look at "requests" for each show it would be about 3x the
real number. If I do the bandwidth division, it's getting upward of
1500 per show at the moment, growing steadily.<<<

I'm not sure what you mean by "requests." But you're right, XML hits mean
nothing at all.

Downloads will include downloads from every source, including people
listening directly on your web site, and should be the most accurate number.




Scott Waters

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Oct 11, 2005, 1:24:41 PM10/11/05
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Re: How many Listeners do you have?

Six

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Rick Klau

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Oct 11, 2005, 2:01:44 PM10/11/05
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Hi - Rob's right, I'm happy to chime in.

Dave said:

> I don't think Feedburner stats are very trustworthy - they're counting
> the number of hits a show's RSS feed gets in a day. Some people check
> many times a day, some every few days, and others once a week.

We actually report the number of hits, but only so that
publishers/podcasters can compare what we're seeing with what they saw prior
to using FeedBurner. We also report the feed's circulation, which we
calculate by looking at IP addresses, user agents, and polling frequency to
discern whether the hits are for one individual or a group... We have
cataloged the behavior of over 1900 RSS user agents (an ever-growing list)
so that we can understand the differences between polling intervals and
likely behavior across those user agents. We account for different polling
periods and are quite confident that circulation is a good reflection of how
many individuals are actually subscribed to a feed. I'm sure some on the
list who use FeedBurner can confirm that "hits" and "circulation" are often
quite different numbers.

[An interesting proof point: two tech feeds we manage (not podcasts, but the
principle's the same) have almost exactly the same circulation (in the
hundreds of thousands). One feed generates 10x the hits the other does - in
part because the latter feed has a majority of readers using My Yahoo (which
generates just one hit for 200,000 or so readers), which means they generate
far fewer hits than the former feed, whose readers almost all use
stand-alone desktop clients.]

As far as number of downloads being "the only" metric that matters, I
totally agree that it's an important metric. And since we only see feed
activity, this isn't something we measure today. By looking at both
circulation (what we measure) as well as the download count, we think
podcasters get a pretty good idea of subscribers (i.e., regular listeners)
vs. listeners (total # of listens per show). We're not suggesting our number
is the only one, but since the methodology is consistent across feeds, it
becomes a pretty good barometer across those feeds.

Hope this helps.

--Rick

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Philip Hodgetts

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Oct 11, 2005, 4:15:34 PM10/11/05
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At 12:57 PM -0400 10/11/05, Dave Hitt wrote:
>Downloads will include downloads from every source, including people
>listening directly on your web site, and should be the most accurate number.

Might be that way in theory, but in practice, no. My server reports
about 3 times more "downloads" than are possible in the bandwidth.

That's why I adopted the approach I did.

Dave Cusick

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Oct 11, 2005, 7:09:39 PM10/11/05
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I have about 800 per week, though older episodes have 1200-1300 total
downloads. I suspect it'd be much higher if I were listed on iTunes, but I'm
not for some reason, even though I've submitted two different feeds (both of
which are compliant).

Does anyone know how to contact iTunes staff regarding this?

-Dave Cusick

Dave Hitt

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Oct 11, 2005, 9:47:53 PM10/11/05
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Thanks for the detailed explanation, Rick. I'd heard a half dozen different
theories as to how feedburner works.

Mark Kanter

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Oct 12, 2005, 11:45:22 AM10/12/05
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With yahoo launching their podcast directory at
http://podcasts.yahoo.com, I'd like to review and
rate your podcasts on Yahoo. Reply with links to your
podcasts' latest episodes and titles, so I can help
you score some new listeners.

If you could reciprocate, that'd be awesome. Heres' 2
I'd like reviewed

1. http://CaseysTop10.Libsyn.com
2.
http://podcastspots.com/AdsOnPods/AdsOnPodsReport2-w-PodcastSPOTS.mp3



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Oct 12, 2005, 12:01:12 PM10/12/05
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Great idea, Mark. This is a great opportunity for our community to help each
other out a bit. One thing to note though - I've already added a couple
reviews here and there, but they haven't showed up on the podcasts' Yahoo
listings yet. I would think that it would be instantaneous, but there must
be some sort of review process for the reviews.

If anyone is a fan of electronic music and feels like checking out and
reviewing 'a podcast elsewhere,' here's the Yahoo link:
http://podcasts.yahoo.com/series?s=bf9b4c83e76757b563ffd0f840016fc1

Take care,
trav

Mark Kanter

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Oct 12, 2005, 12:49:21 PM10/12/05
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Listening to it right now, electronic groove with your
1st guest dj , dj sustenance pretty cool

I'll write the review as soon as its done.

mi...@concertblast.com

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Oct 12, 2005, 12:52:59 PM10/12/05
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GREAT IDEA!
Here's one from CONCERT BLAST!for reviewing...

Show 17 - Thursday, October 6th, 2005
DON BREWER - GRAND FUNK RAILROAD
Recorded at the Mid-South Fair in Memphis, TN
http://www.concertblast.com/Show_17-Don_Brewer-Grand_Funk_Railroad.mp3

Thanks,
Mike Arnold
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RSS Feed: http://www.concertblast.com/shows.xml


>

Shahram {PODKIVE}

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Oct 12, 2005, 12:58:16 PM10/12/05
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the breaks are a bit trancy for me in the morning but im digging it.
good mix and nice tracks. I dont know if your into D&B but i flew dj
zink down to chicago in 96' (first US visit) and he did a radio show
that was so on. What sucks is that i only had one clean CD version that
got lost in my mountain of CDs. Im still on a mission to finding it.

shahram

Jack DeVore

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Oct 12, 2005, 1:02:52 PM10/12/05
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Quality Control Radio

I think it's a great music show that deserves more
exposure. Enjoy.

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Oct 12, 2005, 1:03:43 PM10/12/05
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Thanks Mark, I appreciate it. All the other episodes are me on the decks. I
thought I'd try something new here with a guest DJ. I think it worked out
pretty well, so I'll probably spin the next set and then throw another guest
in after that. It certainly reduces the production time by a lot :)

I'm check out your feeds now and will throw a review on there. Good stuff.

Mark Kanter

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Oct 12, 2005, 1:06:10 PM10/12/05
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PodcastSPOTS is putting together a special campaign
for one of our clients and will be paying to insert a
30 second family-friendly spot.

So I need to know how much you want per spot, and how
many spots you have available and when. We will email
you the spot, so you don't need our software.

Email me off the list at mwka...@yahoo.com with your
details, also let me know the category of your
listeners

We were thinking $5 for the first spot as a base.
Plus $1 per additional slot for each 1,000 listeners
you claim in an episode, but let us know if you have
lesser or greater requirements. We want to get our
client the most exposure for his money.

If you could pass this to other podcasters who may be
interested as well, I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks Mark

robert

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Oct 12, 2005, 1:09:19 PM10/12/05
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Here is the link to the interview we did with Joe Hayashi Sr. Director of Product Management from Yahoo.   We talk about the new podcasts.yahoo.com service.   Where to send feedback, what the criteria are for being chosen for a Staff Pick and many other items related to the new podcasts.yahoo.com service.  And of course we find out what Joe’s first computer was. 

It was really nice to see that Yahoo values the importance of the independent podcast producer.

Rob W
podCast411



Mark Kanter

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Oct 12, 2005, 1:13:32 PM10/12/05
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Wrote the review. That was pretty cool, my head is
still boppin :)

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Oct 12, 2005, 1:31:14 PM10/12/05
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Thanks Shahram. I do listen to D&B on occasion, but haven't tried spinning
it yet. I try to do a different genre of electronic music on each episode,
so you may want to check out some of the others. I'm planning my next one to
be an Indian/middle-eastern theme for some of my belly dancing/fire spinning
friends. Any excuse to do some more record shopping is a good excuse. ;)

Shahram {PODKIVE}

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Oct 12, 2005, 2:01:14 PM10/12/05
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if your into the whole laptop DJ theme. check out my friends label
http://elmconceptions.com/ they do lots of events here in LA.

shahram

Martin Donnelly

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Oct 12, 2005, 3:25:21 PM10/12/05
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I have to say $1 per 1000 listeners is to be honest, quite laughable.
Especially when you can make $1 from one adsense click.

You are having about 30 seconds of 1000 listeners, if the majority of
those listners don't shuttle past it, then that to me is a hell of a
lot more time spent listening to an advert than you would normally
spend looking at one.

This is why I don't currently have advertising in my podcast, I used
your system but found it overly complicated and the quality of the
adverts was quite poor.

Not worth the time and effort for $1 per 1000 listeners.

My thoughts on the subject.

den...@imagingsecrets.com

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Oct 12, 2005, 3:39:17 PM10/12/05
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Frankly, in some instances (such as my podcast) listeners are a targeted
group of like-minded people. As such, I find the $1/thousand not even on
the low-end of the scale.

Obviously, for some advertisers, paying $1/1000 is quite a bargain... for
them. In some recent emails I've exchanged with other podcasters, that rate
has to be raised considerably before I'd even begin to negotiate.

Dennis
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Mark Kanter

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Oct 12, 2005, 3:44:04 PM10/12/05
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Thanks Martin for this valuable feedback. We have
revised the site since you tried us last and are
removing the complexity. Case in point, ads may be
emailed, eliminating the software req altogether

As well, we have professional talent doing the ads
these days and the quality is high.

What do you think you would charge if you were to have
ads. We're trying to find the balance that will make
someone with listenership, say in the 100 or so range,
happy, yet be fair to the advertiser and at the same
time, be rewarding enough for the larger shows.

Do you think a base of say $10 + $50 per 1000
listeners would be worth it to you.

Martin Donnelly

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Oct 12, 2005, 4:07:21 PM10/12/05
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Why would someone want to advertise on a small 100 listener podcast?

Unless it was a highly focused podcast on a specific subject and the
advertiser believes that it is in their target audience. If this was
the case, I am sure it would be easier for the advertiser to just
sponsor the podcast.

My belief is that 30 second plus spots may be better suited for
podcasts with a great circulation.

For the time and effort and the interruption in the podcast, the
returns may not be worth it for the smaller podcast.

My podcast is neither niche nor that popular and I don't think that 30
second spots would be worth it for the time being, sponsor ship yes,
and is something I would think about myself.

Again, my point of view as I've been putting a lot of thought into
this especially when bandwidth costs will be coming into consideration
soon.

MD

Shahram {PODKIVE}

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Oct 12, 2005, 6:53:26 PM10/12/05
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i dont know if you guys know this but, apple just released the new ipod
that supports video. So of course to promote it itunes 6 came out as
well.

What i would like to know, Would any of you would use video in your
podcast?

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I’m definitely considering it. I’ve done a lot of videography work, and have a few ideas rattling around about making a video version of the show. Obviously, the production time would increase vastly. Also, your video audience wouldn’t be as large as your audio-only audience. Not only will it take a while to get more video devices out on the market, but audio-only is very convenient for people to listen to while driving, exercising, etc. There might not be as much of a market for sitting down somewhere and watching a podcast. The audience will be a lot more selective of what they’re watching, because they won’t have as much time during the day for video shows as they do for audio-only.

 


Aaron Osterby

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Oct 12, 2005, 7:43:36 PM10/12/05
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Sounds like a plan.
 
Rumpus Room's latest episode:
 
Rumpus Room #35
From the World of Tomorrow, the Green City, Adelaide, South Australia, podsafe music, personal climate change, get rich with instantaneous hot water systems and the Top 5 Emo Acts of the New Century.
 
 
 
 
On 13/10/05, Mark Kanter <mwka...@yahoo.com> wrote:

With yahoo launching their podcast directory at
http://podcasts.yahoo.com ,  I'd like to review and

jimf...@gmail.com

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Oct 12, 2005, 8:03:39 PM10/12/05
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eheheheheheheh,
that's very funny.
If you listened to Adam, the Pod Father, on yesterday's DSC, he was ridiculing this lady reporter from the Wall Street Journal for implying such an insane idea.
Kind of a, "and she's the Wall Street Journal? What do they know?  I know much better from a conversation I had months ago..."

I guess, egg all over his face on this one?

Vidcasting certainly has many possibilities.
I don't think we'll ever be doing it here, as for us, it's all about "radio".

Cheers,
Jim

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Aaron Osterby

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Oct 12, 2005, 8:07:16 PM10/12/05
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Couple thoughts
 
I think you're on the right track with this idea, but look at CPM's
closer to $20 as the piont on the graph where people are going
to clamor for the business. I realise that's probably not workable
at this stage, and it's great that you're breaking new ground.
 
Catigorisation is also important. Like I'd say ours is podsafe
music with an eco-politics theme, so we'd be in that segment
for sponsors like (for example) Toyota with the hybrid cars.
 
At the kind of rates you're talking about, it's not really worth it to
me. If I'm going to add paid programming to an otherwise ad free
environment, it needs to be for the right price, something that
brings sustainability.
 
Also, I'm feeling like the sponsorship model might be better
suited to podcasts. Rahter than spots, the advertiser buys the
whole show, getting exclusive commerical messaging and more 
than one. At the start of the show, in bumpers and at the end. 

Good going though Mark. I'm sure you'll get some takers.
 
Also, we really need to imporve our ratings systems. It's no good
for Mark to have to rely on our claims about listenership. As long
as there isn't a standard ratings system, these types of rates are
going to be depressed to account for the risk inherent in the
trust model of rating reporting.
 
-Aaron
 
Rumpus Room #35
 

 
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Candace Corrigan

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Oct 12, 2005, 8:51:36 PM10/12/05
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Dear group,
As far as a sponsorship... I have two.  Tower Records and Mailsteward ( for archiving your email on the Mac.)The both pay some money... and yes, we do a bumper at the beginning and the end of each show.  It is recorded in my voice, so it feels like part of the show.  The tower records people are doing this as an experiment, and are paying about the same amount as they would spend on radio ad spots. And they have given me these nifty $20 gift cards and we give one of those away for each program.  They said they think that its a good way to sell records.
Would I be interested in a 30 sec spot in the middle of my show... no.  And I actually need the money. But I am approaching this as a new art form.  I also think that ads in the middle of the show are pretty invasive for the pod cast listener.  If they want ads, they can go watch TV.
That said, I don't begrudge somebody for trying it out. 
As far as video goes... remember, this country is spoiled on great production values when it comes to video.  I was a producer for public television and cable, and it is very expensive to compete with what the public is used to seeing for free, or for a nominal fee at the movies.
With pod casting, you have the advantage of imagination, and of an editing medium that just came down drastically in price.
Will we put up some videos?  Yeah, but only because we already have them in the can I think.  
We will be figuring that out soon.
Our main thing is getting the numbers up before we do anything else.
-regards, Candace Corrigan
ps.  I will review those podcasts, I am just working on this weeks show right now, and am a bit behind.

Dave Cusick

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Oct 12, 2005, 10:58:47 PM10/12/05
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Harold Johnson

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Oct 13, 2005, 3:18:16 AM10/13/05
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I might eventually use video in my podcast, but there are a ton of issues to deal with:

1) Bandwidth (Though we've more or less solved the audio bandwidth problem, video demand *much* more bandwidth)
2) Time (Editing audio takes a great deal of time; editing video *can* take a vastly greater amount of time, depending on a variety of factors, including quality, artistic intent, learning curve, etc.)
3) Expense (More powerful computers, new software, HD space, etc.)
4) Aesthetics (Audio and video are entirely different artforms, requiring *completely* different methods to produce)
5) Face For Radio (Need I say more?  This is subjective, of course, as most things are - but still...)

I'm sure plenty others on this list can chime in...

Harold J. Johnson
http://SomethingThatHappened.com

Harold Johnson

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Oct 13, 2005, 3:27:32 AM10/13/05
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I'm in - check out:

Tempo of the Down
http://podcasts.yahoo.com/series?s=5c66a69ae366322f3ee03a73edd92030

Something that Happened
http://podcasts.yahoo.com/series?s=175301a68c9cbc123d7d03d31f6e4ace

Thanks, Mark!  I'll listen and review your works,

Harold J. Johnson
http://personalaudio.info

Travis Carney

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Oct 13, 2005, 8:28:03 AM10/13/05
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Mark's review hasn't shown up yet, nor have any of the reviews I've written
for other shows. I'm not sure what's going on with Yahoo, but they seem to
be a little behind already.

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Mark Kanter

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Oct 13, 2005, 2:17:02 PM10/13/05
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Rated it, Very professional and great tunes!

Mark
http://PodcastSPOTS.com

DV

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Oct 14, 2005, 9:57:05 AM10/14/05
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Hello,

Probably easiest to review would be Spellbound, which is only an hour
long. The latest eps can be had at
http://spellbound.purplenote.com/mp3lister.php or podcast
http://radio.purplenote.com/spellbound/dircaster.php

If you feel like something longer, you can try your hand at an episode
of Escape From Noise, although at 4 hours it might be a bit much unless
you're in it for the music. It is at
http://efn.purplenote.com/mp3lister.php or podcast
http://radio.purplenote.com/efn/dircaster.php

Thanks in advance!!!!


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Mark Kanter wrote:
> With yahoo launching their podcast directory at
> http://podcasts.yahoo.com, I'd like to review and
> rate your podcasts on Yahoo. Reply with links to your
> podcasts' latest episodes and titles, so I can help
> you score some new listeners.
>
> If you could reciprocate, that'd be awesome. Heres' 2
> I'd like reviewed
>
> 1. http://CaseysTop10.Libsyn.com
> 2.
> http://podcastspots.com/AdsOnPods/AdsOnPodsReport2-w-PodcastSPOTS.mp3
>
>
>

DV

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Oct 14, 2005, 10:05:30 AM10/14/05
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If I could find enough music videos to support a show, I'd consider it.
Maybe 30 minutes a week.

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http://www.purplenote.com/davidv
dav...@purplenote.com
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The Purple Note Radio Network:
Escape From Noise, vocal electronica, 10PM Sats http://efn.purplenote.com
Spellbound, music for theremin, 11PM Suns http://spellbound.purplenote.com
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Shahram {PODKIVE} wrote:
> i dont know if you guys know this but, apple just released the new ipod
> that supports video. So of course to promote it itunes 6 came out as well.
>
> What i would like to know, Would any of you would use video in your
> podcast?
>
> Shahram Shokrian
> .................................................
> *http://PodKive.com
> */The Podcast Management System (PMS)/*
>
> TEL_323_606_5000
> TOL_866_326_4678*

Andrew MacNeill

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Oct 18, 2005, 4:17:45 PM10/18/05
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I'm likely going to be considering a separate feed for it - the
problem is that the format for video somewhat different - I mean,
Apple will support MP4 but will they support WMV? Doubtful, so that's
something that plays into it.
--
Andrew MacNeill
Blog: http://akselsoft.blogspot.com
Fox Show PodCast: http://www.thefoxshow.com
Web: http://www.aksel.com
Phone: 613-851-4496
Skype: akselsoft

Mark Kanter

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Oct 27, 2005, 9:24:21 AM10/27/05
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Same here, I did 3 reviews a few weeks ago and none
have appeared on any of them. As well, if anybody
reviewed my shows, none have appeared.

I figured I'd wait to see if the reveiws I did show
up, before doing all the others, but no joy yet. Oh
well.

Mark
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