[podcasters] What causes "feedbarf"?
Nobilis
Every once in a while, my feed reader (Juice) will decide that I have
not, in fact, been listening to a particular podcast since the
beginning, and that I need to download all fifty episodes that are in
the feed it's looking at. It's a pain in the butt to correct, and I
want to make sure that I never, ever do anything to make this happen
to my listeners.
What causes this? Is it a bug in Juice, or did the podcaster do
something to his feed to make it think that it needed to re-download
everything?
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Erk Pod
I've seen the same thing in iTunes. Most of the time I've seen this happen,
it has been with feeds from radio stations, not so much the indie podcaster.
Erk
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Nobilis <authornobilis@gmail.com> wrote:
> Every once in a while, my feed reader (Juice) will decide that I have
> not, in fact, been listening to a particular podcast since the
> beginning, and that I need to download all fifty episodes that are in
> the feed it's looking at. It's a pain in the butt to correct, and I
> want to make sure that I never, ever do anything to make this happen
> to my listeners.
>
> What causes this? Is it a bug in Juice, or did the podcaster do
> something to his feed to make it think that it needed to re-download
> everything?
>
>
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James Ballard
Juice started doing that weekly for me ... not every episode in the feed,
but usually the last 10 or 15.
So I ditched Juice and went to Ziepod. Hasn't happened since (though Ziepod
sometimes crashes hard when it starts...) except with Scott Sigler's feed.
It kept grabbing a random recent episode. After Nocturnal #19 came out, it
grabbed Nocturnal #15 too..
I'd chalk it up to a bug in the podcatcher rather than a burp in the feed,
at least in this case...
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Stephen Eley
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Nobilis <authornobilis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> What causes this? Is it a bug in Juice, or did the podcaster do
> something to his feed to make it think that it needed to re-download
> everything?
I don't know about Juice, but it happens in iTunes sometimes too.
When I see it happen, it's _usually_ due to some change the podcaster
made in their feed. Could have been changing blogging platforms or
configurations and resetting all the GUID values; could have been a
change in dates or enclosure URLs; could have been just looking at it
cross-eyed.
You can minimize the odds of stuff like this by being careful with
changes, but I'm not sure there's much you can do to guarantee that it
"never, ever" happens. (Well, short of not podcasting, I suppose.)
It's an annoyance, but I doubt it's one that'll lose audience unless
it happens too often. Do you ever unsubscribe to the ones that do it
on you in Juice?
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Nobilis
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 1:10 AM, Stephen Eley <SFEley@gmail.com> wrote:
> Do you ever unsubscribe to the ones that do it
> on you in Juice?
Not solely for that reason, no, but it has been a contributing factor
when it happened twice in one week.
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Brains Matter
Sometimes a re-jig to the web site and/or moving a feed to a new
address will do it (it's not noticeable to the listener since a lot of
people use feed aliases or services such as feedburner)
Feedburner also allows you to do something like a 'resynchronisation'
of your feed, which will have the same effect as well.
OG
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On 21/03/2008, at 3:31 PM, Nobilis wrote:
> Every once in a while, my feed reader (Juice) will decide that I have
> not, in fact, been listening to a particular podcast since the
> beginning, and that I need to download all fifty episodes that are in
> the feed it's looking at. It's a pain in the butt to correct, and I
> want to make sure that I never, ever do anything to make this happen
> to my listeners.
>
> What causes this? Is it a bug in Juice, or did the podcaster do
> something to his feed to make it think that it needed to re-download
> everything?
>
> --
> Weekly erotica served up on your ipod or mp3 player -- subscribe to
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>
>
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--- In podcasters@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Eley" <SFEley@...> wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 12:31 AM, Nobilis <authornobilis@...> wrote:
> >
> > What causes this? Is it a bug in Juice, or did the podcaster do
> I don't know about Juice, but it happens in iTunes sometimes too.
> When I see it happen, it's _usually_ due to some change the podcaster
> made in their feed. Could have been changing blogging platforms or
I've had the periodic 'feedbarf' (nice term) happen in iTunes, Zune,
Dopplr, Juice, and the two other podcatchers that I've played with. I
think that Mozilla Thunderbird did it once. And Google Reader very
very rarely feedbarfes.
Which makes me think that the problem is a combination of both the
program and the feed. IMO, the 'catchers simply are not flexible
enough to deal with any variation in the feeds.
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