Old 6M Hi-Par Saturn "6" loop antenna

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May 13, 2014, 3:10:13 PM5/13/14
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 Among my collection of "stuff", I have two old 6M Halo antennas, probably from the 1960's.  They seem to both be made by the same company, Hi-Par, since the hardware and mounts are nearly identical.
  For all the years I have had these antennas, I have been unable to find much information on-line, but Dan K7SMA found a web site with a picture! 
Now I am a bit confused.  I thought the 4-ring antenna that I have, was the Saturn "6".  I do have a copy of a "Hi-Par Saturn '6' Mobileer Antenna" manual, but unfortunately there is no description or picture to verify just which model is the Saturn 6.
  My 3-ring antenna looks just like the one on the  NX7U web site. www.nx7u.net/HiPar.html .
  My 4-ring version uses three different diameters of tubing; with one being 5/8", one 3/8", and two are 1/2" OD.  It has round end plates, instead of the triangular ones shown on the web site for the 3-ring version, but the other mounting hardware and fabrication is identical to the 3-ring unit, albeit with an extra groove in the clamp bracket for the fourth loop. 
  Which ever version is the 'real' Saturn '6' (and I think it is probably  the 3-ring version);  I now wonder what the 'other' version was called.
  Any input???
Thanks,
  Rod Johnson
 Issaquah, WA.
 CN97al
 

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May 13, 2014, 3:52:23 PM5/13/14
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Rod;'
  I'll go one more for you   I have had this halo in my shop for many years. I thought it was the
original Saturn  but I have never found proof.  Hope the 4 pics are good enough to compare
with yours and, of course, the Washington is to compare size. I'm going to try the transformer
that was described in the website. I would like to use this antenna not just save scrap alloy. hihi
73  KG7P    Stan...
 
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May 13, 2014, 4:15:23 PM5/13/14
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Rod;
Me again.  You got me thinking and since I had bought a Sept. 1962 copy of VHF HORIZONS
at the swap meet last Sat,  I took a look and sure enough the attached file shows the add I
thought I had seen. The original Halo, no Saturn mentioned. The game is afoot. I have to find
later adds, maybe for the Saturn series,. 
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May 13, 2014, 4:21:32 PM5/13/14
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Stan,
   That looks nothing like any Saturn or Hi-Par antenna I've seen.
   I think your loop is way to new to be a Hi-Par Saturn antenna.
  It might be an AEA design.  I think they had something like that back many years ago.  They were in Lynwood.
Rod
 
In a message dated 5/13/2014 12:52:25 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Snort...@aol.com writes:
Rod;'
  I'll go one more for you   I have had this halo in my shop for many years. I thought it was the
original Saturn  but I have never found proof.  Hope the 4 pics are good enough to compare
with yours and, of course, the Washington is to compare size. I'm going to try the transformer
that was described in the website. I would like to use this antenna not just save scrap alloy. hihi

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May 13, 2014, 4:43:47 PM5/13/14
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Hi guys,
     Just to let you know my Saturn 6 is an original, I bought it personally from Henry W1NEV at Hi-Par in Littleton MA. back in around 1964. I was born and got my license as a kid in Marlboro MA. So the original Saturn 6 did have 3 rings and came with the matching block attached. I had it mounted on a bumper mount on my 1964 Corvair using a Six'er mobile - lots of Mountain topping from Mt. Wauchusetts in central MA about 2200 ft. Could regularly work 200 - 300 miles from there and even into Long Island and NJ on a good Tropo day. I just replaced the spacers, got it cleaned up and tuned and will re-mount it on my truck this weekend - I hope!
     Here's another interesting article from E-ham, it shows a matching coil that looks interesting:   www.eham.net/articles/27225  I hope it helps!
 
Anyway good luck everyone maybe I'll hear you on 6 from the truck!
 
73  Dan  K7SMA
 


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May 13, 2014, 5:03:47 PM5/13/14
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So Dan K7SMA, as I had suspected, has an original Saturn '6' antenna. I also have one.
 
  So what can anyone tell me about the nearly identical, but 4-ring, design that I have in my possession?
I guess I may have to dig into the 1960's QST's.
 
Thanks for the replies.
  Rod Johnson
  Issaquah, WA
CN97al
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