#494 AP book of science-- Theoretical Music and when does a song become a different song// Conjecture: Timing more important than the notes played.

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Jun 9, 2026, 11:56:07 AM (7 days ago) Jun 9
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Reference: Xylophone.

The instrument I do not have to tune as I am tone deaf.

Definition: Music Melody or Song comes in three parts (1) time elapse, that is the time taken between any two notes (2) notes played during time elapse.

Let me say a song, the most primitive song involves just 2 notes in all. A more complex song involves 3 notes in all, more complex even is a 4 note song. Now we combine that with total time interval of say 20 seconds. 2 notes played in 20 seconds depends on where you play the 2 notes within 20 seconds. Do you play them close together or space the far apart, playing note at start and hitting the second note near the end of 20 seconds. Indeed involves a time elapse of 20 seconds and I hit two and only two single notes, say A-B.

Then, once that 20 second song is finished with I play a new song, and it lasts just 20 seconds and two and only two notes are played, it is A and E minor. Question: Are those two different songs?????

Where I am going with this, or, should I say, where I would like to go with this is the question of whether the TIMING involved in music is far, far more important than the notes involved.

So a Song in Music is part that of Time Interval and part of what Notes are played. And my conjecture is a concern that the Time involved-- if I compress many different notes in 20 seconds or I play just two notes in that 20 second. My conjecture is the Notes are tending to be immaterial and not important as is the Time interval of a Song.

Definition: Overall Time Interval and time interval between Notes in the Overall Time Interval. For example, the song of one Note A in 20 seconds or two notes in 20 seconds. Now another song of 20 seconds but it has 10 notes of A-B-A-B-A-B-A-B-A-B. Each note equally spaced apart. Clearly, those are different songs, but, now, instead of A-B alternating, suppose for 20 seconds I play A- Asharp instead of A-B. Same timing involved in both songs? Do I have a different Song? I believe so, but, the crucial point I am trying to pinpoint is the idea that Time in Music is far more important than the Note sequence played.

I do not know, if what I am calling Time Interval, is what musicians call that of "Cadence".

For example, the song My Country Tis of Thee. Sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing. Land where my fathers died. Land of the pilgrims pride, from every mountain side, let Freedom ring. Played on the xylophone without singing the words.

Now someone may play, not sing, that with a fast cadence while another plays it very slowly. It is the same song only with different time intervals. Are they the same song???

Now, taking that same song on the xylophone and replacing the notes with different notes, some minor some sharp, but keeping the same time interval--- is it even recognizable as the song My Country Tis of Thee????? I contend it is still recognizable. But, now, if I play that with minor and sharp notes in a different time interval, it is no longer recognizable as My Country Tis of Thee.

What is the importance of this Conjecture??? I am exploring the idea that Time interval is top importance over what Notes are played in Music.

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#494 AP book of science-- Theoretical Music and when does a song become a different song// Conjecture: Timing more important than the notes played.

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Jun 9, 2026, 12:03:13 PM (7 days ago) Jun 9
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Now, I heard somewhere, long time ago, for the purpose of one song writer suing another song writer for copy theft, is that the courts determine a unique song if 3 successive notes are the same.

If that is the bench-mark rule of determining a stolen song, then I would contend that Rule leans more heavily on Time Interval than it leans on ---"what notes are played".

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Jun 9, 2026, 12:14:22 PM (7 days ago) Jun 9
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An interesting side note is biology heredity. It is claimed, most interestingly, that two different species is determined if the ATGC has 3 different A , T, G, C than the other.

So in Music, a different song has ---no 3 notes the same. And in biology, a different species, must have 3 different A, T, G, C.

Conjecture number 2: the first conjecture is that Timing is more important than the Notes played. The second conjecture I make is where does 8 in octave of the Notes in music come from???? I mean --- come from in physics? My best guess at this moment is the proton in atoms is 840 MeV while the muon, the electron of atoms is 105MeV and the Faraday Principle is the muon thrusting through the Proton torus produces electricity. We can think of electricity as music. For 8 x 105 =840.

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