negative grid value for z-path

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Ben Cossins

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Feb 22, 2010, 7:20:07 AM2/22/10
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Hi,
I have been testing plumed for protein conformational change
calculations using Gromacs. I applied all the extra patches you have
posted.
I have been using the s-path and z-path RMSD CV's with 20 frames and
70 atoms being aligned and displaced with weighting 1.00 in every
case. The msd between frames is around 0.15 so I have been using
quite a high lambda of about 18.
If I try and use GRID (min 0, max 20) the run dies at 0 ps saying
it is outside of the GRID. I have had a look in the code and the
value of the grid for the zpath is -0.09. If I set the grid min to
0.5 then the calculation seems to run fine.
Could you help me interpret these issues?

Many thanks

Ben

davideb

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Feb 22, 2010, 7:34:51 AM2/22/10
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Hi Ben!

You don't need to be worried by negative Z values. Your value for
lambda seems correct
(although, given your average MSD I would have used 15 instead) and
the negative value
comes from the fact that actually you're calculating a negative log
for a value which is
larger than 1 (because you may sit on one frame and have distance zero
from it but the neighbor
frames may contribute as well giving a sum of exponentials which is
larger than one).
This sometimes happens (I also find rather unpleasant but I decided I
can live with it).
Concerning the GRID usage I'm not an expert so I prefer to leave this
topic to some of the developers who
coded it!
Good luck!

D

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to answer only to subscribers. Can you make it ?

Massimiliano Bonomi

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Feb 22, 2010, 8:28:52 AM2/22/10
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> If I try and use GRID (min 0, max 20) the run dies at 0 ps saying
> it is outside of the GRID. I have had a look in the code and the
> value of the grid for the zpath is -0.09.

Dear Ben,

the interval min 0 and max 20 should be fine for the s-path variable (I would use 0 and 21 just to be sure...).
Which boundaries did you use for the z-path variable?

Max


> If I set the grid min to
> 0.5 then the calculation seems to run fine.
> Could you help me interpret these issues?
>
> Many thanks
>
> Ben
>

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Ben Cossins

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Feb 22, 2010, 8:22:50 AM2/22/10
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Ok thanks Davide,
I would be happy to subscribe. How do I go about doing that. I
have become a member of the google group, at least I thought I had.

Thanks

ben

Ben Cossins

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Feb 22, 2010, 8:50:30 AM2/22/10
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Hi,
Initially I used min 0 and max 20 for the z-path as I hadn't been
through the z-path equation properly. Now I am using min -1.0 max 1.0
and with 50 bins. The z-path value seems to stay around -0.09 so far
and fluctuates no more that 0.02.

Thanks for your help

On Feb 22, 2:28 pm, Massimiliano Bonomi

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