Effect size for mediation

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Maria

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Sep 24, 2012, 6:56:21 AM9/24/12
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Dear Ned, 

please allow me a question, again: Could you tell me, what kind of effect size measure you have implemented to calculate the effect size of the (total) indirect effects respc. the formula?

Thank you very very  much,  

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Maria

Ned Kock

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Sep 24, 2012, 9:48:33 AM9/24/12
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Hi Maria.

 

It is Cohen’s f-squared – see the User Manual for the reference.

 

Ned

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Maria Daskalakis

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Sep 24, 2012, 3:20:18 PM9/24/12
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Dear Ned, thanks a lot  for your answer. I saw the reference in the Manual, and I know the effect measure, of course. My problem is, that I do not understand, how this measure can be used to calculate the effect sizes of indirect effects. Do you possible multiplied the effect sizes of each particular paths as the pathcoeffcients a and b and ...are?
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Ned Kock

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Sep 24, 2012, 7:50:28 PM9/24/12
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Hi Maria.

 

Following Cohen’s original formulation, the effect size of an indirect effect of variable A on B is the change in R-squared induced by A on B associated with the  indirect effect.

 

It is not a product of path coefficients. The more complex the set of paths connecting A and B, the more complex becomes the calculation of the effect size for indirect (and total) effects.

 

Btw, if you need to isolate a particular indirect effect when there is more than one path with N segments, and thus obtain its effect size, you can use a procedure similar to the one described in the clip linked below.

 

http://youtu.be/1wk5eedKupI

 

Just be careful not to bias the effect size upwards by removing path segments that would tend to reduce it.

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Maria Daskalakis

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Sep 25, 2012, 3:40:42 AM9/25/12
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Hi Ned,
thank you very much! It is now clear to me - I think this is a very good, simple and straightforward way to estimate the effect size, as what we are really interested in is the change in R2.

I was looking at some papers the last two days concerning the question, which effect size measure to take for estimating the effect sizes of indirect effects. There seems to be no agreement yet, and some effect sizes, as the ones emphasized in Preacher/Kelly 2011 are rather complicated. Preacher/Kelly also state, that "Such an effect [the indirect effect]  is complex because it is the product of (here) two regression coefficients and does not fit conveniently into the framework of existing effect sizes." (p. 95; with reference to Cohen, albeit to cohens d, which is anyway not useful for the given purpose).

May I ask, what you think about that statement?

Best regards,
Maria 

Ned Kock

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Sep 25, 2012, 10:18:11 AM9/25/12
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Hi Maria.

 

The approach used by WarpPLS to calculate indirect and total effects automatically obviates many of the techniques that propose to do that manually, such as the one proposed by Preacher & Hayes as well as various permutations and variations.

 

I agree that calculating effect sizes for indirect and total effects based on manual techniques using intermediate coefficients is problematic, and likely to lead to errors and unreliable results in many cases.

 

The multivariate definition of effect size due to a variable A (adopted by Cohen), which is the variation in R-squared due to that variable in the context of a multivariate model, is widely accepted.

 

Btw, within Cohen’s framework for effect size calculation, the d coefficient is not used at all in WarpPLS.

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