Need help in deciding between SmartPLS and AMOS??

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Afzal Moshadi

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Nov 10, 2016, 12:26:16 AM11/10/16
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Dear Group Members,

While checking the assumptions of AMOS I found out that my data is not fulfilling multivariate normality. Even though it is Uni-variate normal data. I am left with an option of leaving Maximum Likelihood and adopt Asymptotically distribution free (ADF) or run Bootstrapping technique. Third option is Satorra and Bentler(1988) which I dont know how to run and get softwars (no worries). I think if I have to go for a non-parametric technique than I should do SmartPLS instead. How would we support the results of SmartPLS when it is said that it is not a theory building technique whereas covariance based technique (AMOS) is consider onw. Does this has any implication on my PhD study regarding theoretical contribution. Kind suggestions are required.

Further I have data from two different surveys i) Online survey data (n-338) ii) Field survey data (n-388). Can I combined both samples or should I treat them seperately.  What are the chances of intermode biased? Do we have a statistical technique to provide guidance. Also any helping material would be appreciated...

Sanjay Kumar

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Nov 10, 2016, 2:26:51 AM11/10/16
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Dear Afzal,

I used SmartPLS for my PhD work in 2015. I had to move to use Smart PLS because of two reasons:
1. Theoretical.
2. Each of normality in m yu Dara.

Theoretical reason has to be the main basis. While constructing your SM and MM, theory will dictate the type and nature of the relationships between your Latest Variables and the Manifest Variables. AMOS can handle Reflective indicators only, whereas my theory pointed towards Formative relationships.

So, think clearly about your theoretical basis. It will help you to decide.

Best wishes.

Sanjay Kumar


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Sanjay Kumar

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Nov 10, 2016, 2:27:59 AM11/10/16
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Sorry. Point no 2 should read:
Lack of normality in my data.
Sorry for the typo.

Schuberth Florian

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Nov 10, 2016, 2:42:30 AM11/10/16
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Dear Afzal,

I would say it mainly depends on the way you modeled your constructs: common factor (reflective measurement) vs. composite (formative measurement). If you have only common factors I would go for a covariance-based technique since PLS leads to biased estimiates. Of course you can use PLSc to get consistent estimates. There can be situations where PLS has an advantage in terms of sample size, but to my opinion this is rarely the case.

If you include composites in your model, in particular in an endogenous position, go for PLS.

It is not true that PLS cannot be used for confirmatory purposes, since there is also an overall-model fit. I recommend you to read Henseler et al. (2016) for an current view on PLS

Best regards,
Florian

Henseler, Jörg, Geoffrey Hubona, and Pauline Ash Ray. "Using PLS path modeling in new technology research: updated guidelines." Industrial management & data systems 116.1 (2016): 2-20.
 

 


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>>> Afzal Moshadi <afzal....@gmail.com> 10.11.16 6.26 Uhr >>>
Dear Group Members,

While checking the assumptions of AMOS I found out that my data is not fulfilling multivariate normality. Even though it is Uni-variate normal data. I am left with an option of leaving Maximum Likelihood and adopt Asymptotically distribution free (ADF) or run Bootstrapping technique. Third option is Satorra and Bentler(1988) which I dont know how to run and get softwars (no worries). I think if I have to go for a non-parametric technique than I should do SmartPLS instead. How would we support the results of SmartPLS when it is said that it is not a theory building technique whereas covariance based technique (AMOS) is consider onw. Does this has any implication on my PhD study regarding theoretical contribution. Kind suggestions are required.

Further I have data from two different surveys i) Online survey data (n-338) ii) Field survey data (n-388). Can I combined both samples or should I treat them seperately.  What are the chances of intermode biased? Do we have a statistical technique to provide guidance. Also any helping material would be appreciated...

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Arunkumar Balasubramaniam

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Nov 10, 2016, 2:51:43 AM11/10/16
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Dear Afzal,
My opinion:
PLS-SEM is a distribution-free approach. So, it can be used in your case where normality is not fulfilled. There are many Ph.D dissertations that have used PLS-SEM.

If you are inclined towards AMOS, have you tried the data transformation approaches to achieve normality?
Did you do appropriate missing value analysis and imputation?
Have you done a Chi-Squared test on categorical data for your online versus field survey data? Have you tried Mann-Whitney U test on your demographic and latent variables (online versus field data)? Are these tests significant? That could give you an idea of how to treat the data or what could be used to explain the difference.

Wishing you all the best in your analysis!

Thanks & regards,
Arun



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Subject: [pls-sem] Need help in deciding between SmartPLS and AMOS??

Dear Group Members,

While checking the assumptions of AMOS I found out that my data is not fulfilling multivariate normality. Even though it is Uni-variate normal data. I am left with an option of leaving Maximum Likelihood and adopt Asymptotically distribution free (ADF) or run Bootstrapping technique. Third option is Satorra and Bentler(1988) which I dont know how to run and get softwars (no worries). I think if I have to go for a non-parametric technique than I should do SmartPLS instead. How would we support the results of SmartPLS when it is said that it is not a theory building technique whereas covariance based technique (AMOS) is consider onw. Does this has any implication on my PhD study regarding theoretical contribution. Kind suggestions are required.

Further I have data from two different surveys i) Online survey data (n-338) ii) Field survey data (n-388). Can I combined both samples or should I treat them seperately.  What are the chances of intermode biased? Do we have a statistical technique to provide guidance. Also any helping material would be appreciated...

Ned Kock

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Nov 10, 2016, 9:15:21 AM11/10/16
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The most difficult challenge to PLS-SEM made by methodologists is that it does not deal with factors, but with composites, thus not properly accounting for measurement error. Several doctoral students have raised this issue in the past here. The video clip linked below, titled “Conduct a Factor-Based PLS-SEM Analysis with WarpPLS”, discusses the differences in results you are likely to see in factor-based analyses.

 

http://youtu.be/PvXuD5COezU

 

As noted in the video, this challenge has been addressed by WarpPLS (see link below) through the inclusion of factor-based algorithms, in addition to the classic PLS Mode A and PLS Mode B algorithms. Authors of papers and dissertations have included results employing factor-based algorithms in their reports, often in addition to classic PLS-SEM results, to overcome this challenge and other methodological challenges.

 

http://warppls.com

 

In addition to that, WarpPLS provides what is probably the most extensively set of results of any software, including: univariate and multivariate measures of normality, several model fit and quality indices, Q-squared predictive validity coefficients, indirect effects for paths with multiple segments, causality assessment coefficients, various 2D graphs and 3D graphs etc.

 

Best regards, Ned

 

 

 

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Dear Group Members,

While checking the assumptions of AMOS I found out that my data is not fulfilling multivariate normality. Even though it is Uni-variate normal data. I am left with an option of leaving Maximum Likelihood and adopt Asymptotically distribution free (ADF) or run Bootstrapping technique. Third option is Satorra and Bentler(1988) which I dont know how to run and get softwars (no worries). I think if I have to go for a non-parametric […]




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Afzal Moshadi

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Nov 10, 2016, 1:40:11 PM11/10/16
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Thanks Dear Dr. Sanjay

I dont see an issue on this aspect as my theory suggests reflective rather than formative relationship. Hence that is quite do able in both. Major concern is the Multivariate normality. By the way I am very thankful for your kind suggestion

Regards

SAM Shah
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Afzal Moshadi

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Nov 10, 2016, 1:45:22 PM11/10/16
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Dear Florian,

Many thanks for your valuable comments. I will try to get hold of this article, however I might not be able to secure it because I am from an underdeveloped country and our universities don't have an access to latest articles i.e. 2016. I appreciate your help

Best Regards

SAM Shah

Afzal Moshadi

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Nov 10, 2016, 1:53:11 PM11/10/16
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Dear Arun,
Thanks for relevant suggestions. Yes I tried transformations. However no luck. I checked standardized z, checked the log10 and even Mahalanobis distance and ommitted around 138 outliers to reach 6.5 c.r value. I checked the missing values and found none.
Regarding group differences. I checked Chi square tests earlier on and did not find an evidence that they are significantly different. I might try Mann-Whitney U test on your demographic and latent variables and will see what is the outcome.

Thanks for your valuable suggestons

Regards

SAM Shah

Jörg Henseler

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Nov 11, 2016, 3:39:33 AM11/11/16
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Dear SAM Shah,

The article mentioned by Florian is open access and thus accessible for everyone.

Best regards,

Jörg

 

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Afzal Moshadi

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Nov 12, 2016, 5:20:07 AM11/12/16
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Dear Prof. Dr. Jörg Henseler,
Thanks for your help. Yes I have downloaded that paper and am currently getting benefited. 

Regards

SAM

Jose L. Roldan

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Nov 14, 2016, 4:03:13 AM11/14/16
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Dear Afzal, 

In addition to the previous bibliography recommended by Florian and Jörg, I also would suggest the following paper:

Sarstedt, M., Hair, J. F., Ringle, C. M., Thiele, K. O., & Gudergan, S. P. (2016). Estimation issues with PLS and CBSEM: Where the bias lies! Journal of Business Research, 69(10), 3998–4010. http://doi.org/10.1016/j.jbusres.2016.06.007

Best regards,

José L. Roldán



>>> Afzal Moshadi <afzal....@gmail.com> 10.11.16 6.26 Uhr >>>
Dear Group Members, 

While checking the assumptions of AMOS I found out that my data is not fulfilling multivariate normality. Even though it is Uni-variate normal data. I am left with an option of leaving Maximum Likelihood and adopt Asymptotically distribution free (ADF) or run Bootstrapping technique. Third option is Satorra and Bentler(1988) which I dont know how to run and get softwars (no worries). I think if I have to go for a non-parametric technique than I should do SmartPLS instead. How would we support the results of SmartPLS when it is said that it is not a theory building technique whereas covariance based technique (AMOS) is consider onw. Does this has any implication on my PhD study regarding theoretical contribution. Kind suggestions are required. 

Further I have data from two different surveys i) Online survey data (n-338) ii) Field survey data (n-388). Can I combined both samples or should I treat them seperately.  What are the chances of intermode biased? Do we have a statistical technique to provide guidance. Also any helping material would be appreciated...

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