Yes – I expect they’re still spending my money. I would love to take the fight to them, but feel pretty much as though it’s my mistake and I have to live with it. As far as I can work out, there has not been a single success story with either getting planning permission or getting money back from these companies.
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Yes- I was also targeted in land scam by property spy. They misold a green belt plot to me in Kent county in mar 2005.
If anyone is forming a group to take a action against them, I will surely join them.
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Yes - I expect they're still spending my money. I would love to take the fight to them, but feel pretty much as though it's my mistake and I have to live with it. As far as I can work out, there has not been a single success story with either getting planning permission or getting money back from these companies.
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Anybody had dealings with Property Spy?
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Can you provide any more details of the solicitors used please - telephone number. Have you had any success in claiming your money back?
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hi, yes i do have a plot at bluebell hill.
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It is not just a case of the seller promising that planning applications would be forthcoming or would be a forgone conclusion, for example many of our members were given assurances that a group management committee or forum would be established to deal with such matters, something which never happened. You need to form yourselves into a cohesive group, someone needs to pick up and run with the issue to get the ball rolling. It requires a great deal of determination and persistence and then other plot owners to step up and help out, it will also take along time, you need to think in terms of years not months. Whoever "steps up" to start it all off will also need to commit some money to the project as well as their time and effort. Our group has chosen to pursue the planning application route rather than litigation in the first instance, bringing a lawsuit is a whole new ball game. Good luck if you take it on and keep us posted. Keith Pierce. Head of Steering Committee. Tewin Grove Plot Owners Group.
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Hi another group have been paid out by Baron Deschuer the owner of the land scam companies, they also threaten to take him to court. They got help from a ex sales person who worked for gilbert estates (gilbert estates is also linked to the land scam).
The owners live in a multi million pound estate called Wilderwick House, in Dormansland, I think the house is on 150 acres. Some could say that land scams pay.
Hi another group have been paid out by Baron Deschuer the owner of the land scam companies, they also threaten to take him to court. They got help from a ex sales person who worked for gilbert estates (gilbert estates is also linked to the land scam).
The owners live in a multi million pound estate called Wilderwick House, in Dormansland, I think the house is on 150 acres. Some could say that land scams pay.
HiWe bought 5 plots from Baron Deschauer; but at Collingham Gardens in April 2004. Apparantly he has over 20 different companies They will never receive planning permission to build on!I am interested in the legal case; any details?RegardsJassi
On Saturday, 18 December 2010 12:43:55 UTC, AKay80 wrote:
Hi another group (50 people) have been paid out by Baron Deschuer the owner of the land scam companies, they also threaten to take him to court. They got help from a ex sales person who worked for gilbert estates (gilbert estates is also linked to the land scam).
A group of five directors who ran three landbanking companies have been disqualified for a total of 53 years following an investigation by The Insolvency Service.
The companies collected over £7m from approximately 80 investors using “intimidating and high pressure” sales tactics.Scott Assemakis, David Evans, Gavin Walter Gravesande, James William Murphy Dominic and James Whatley were directors of Ultraclass Limited, which traded as The Property Partnership, Burnhill Land Investments Limited and RTW (Burnhill) Limited, and which sold plots of land including areas of flood plain and of the green belt.
Mark Bruce, chief examiner at The Insolvency Service, said: “The scale of losses for the unfortunate victims over these three companies is quite disgraceful.
“Those who tried to reduce their losses by pulling out of the scheme were met with underhand tactics. The Insolvency Service is determined to come down hard on directors who set out to rip people off by deliberately misrepresenting the investment opportunity on offer.”
Many of the land plots were sold to investors for more than 10 times their original purchase prices, despite being sold within a few months of purchase with total sales estimated at around £6,778,316.
The sites themselves were either on green belt land, conservation sites, at high risk of flooding, in landscape protection areas or adjacent to areas of outstanding natural beauty.
The investigation also uncovered deficiencies in the books and records of all three companies.
Assemakis and Evans – directors of all three companies – were disqualified for 11 years, Gravesande – director of Ultraclass Limited, trading as The Property Partnership – was disqualified for 11 years, Murphy – director of Burnhill Land Investments Limited – was disqualified for 10 years and Whatley – director of RTW (Burnhill) Limited – was disqualified for 10 years.
By John Brazier
Here are a couple of more articles regarding the same case:
Hi, I have a plot on Blue Bell hIll and have done some research. I am hoping to get a group together to join forces and put up a legal fight. Anyone interested, plesae email me for more info. Nita sva...@hotmail.co.uk
On Sunday, 24 November 2013 07:56:50 UTC, Jane Saunders wrote:
Hi Susan,Please include me in any group. I really am keen to join a group but have been unwell lately so didn't take things further. Anything I can do to help I will do willingly. My phone no is 07944607627. Kind Regards, Sarah Saunders
Today I spoke to Citizens Advice Solicitor re. maintainence charges for Blue Bell Land Plot. We have heard that the land has been rented back to the farmer. Solicitor advises we send letter refusing to pay mainenance charges until we receive our share of the rent! The solicitor is writing this in a letter to send so if anyone would like a copy, please contact me sva...@hotmail.co.uk
Rumour has it that Baron Deschauer / Bluebell Land / Groombridge/ Collingham Land/ Lakeview Land and Groombridge land have settled with over 20 plot owners. They took him to court and he agreed to settle and pay all costs!!!!! Time to rally up, before he closes up shop. I was told one of the ex agents for the company helped the plot owners.
HiI bought and two associates 15 plots from Scala Land Group and experiencing the same. we are interested in the legal case.George
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 16:06:37 -0700
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Subject: [Plot Owners 533] Re: BLUEBELL LAND LTDHi
We bought 5 plots from Baron Deschauer; but at Collingham Gardens in April 2004. Apparantly he has over 20 different companies They will never receive planning permission to build on!I am interested in the legal case; any details?RegardsJassi
On Saturday, 18 December 2010 12:43:55 UTC, AKay80 wrote:
Have you had dealings with Baron Deschauer / Bluebell Land Ltd and
purchased investment plots?
There is a pending legal case you may be interested in.
Please contact me for further information.
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Any one who purchased plots from the following:
Bluebell Land Ltd
Groombridge Grove
Collingham Land Ltd
Lakeview Developments Ltd
Gilbert Estates
Contact me, as I assisted the group who took Baron Deschauer to court, and now the terms of the settlement.
Hello AllI am trying to contact the solicitors who won the case against Blue Bell and Baron Deschauer who seem to have large number of registered companies. I purchased a plot in Sewards End but there is no chance of getting planning permission. So I intend to take the comany to court. I am also receiving threats from their solicitors for not paying the service charges. Company which sold me this plot is Glenridge Estate (Essex) ltd. Anyone who is interested please contact me with your phone number. ANd please do it asap before its too late. We must hit while the iron is hot.Best WishesHassan MahmoodOn Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 10:07 AM, fem <femi...@gmail.com> wrote:
hi, yes i do have a plot at bluebell hill.
On Saturday, December 18, 2010 12:43:55 PM UTC, AKay80 wrote:Have you had dealings with Baron Deschauer / Bluebell Land Ltd and
purchased investment plots?
There is a pending legal case you may be interested in.
Please contact me for further information.
Regards
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HiI bought and two associates 15 plots from Scala Land Group and experiencing the same. we are interested in the legal case.
George
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 16:06:37 -0700
From: sonasi...@aol.com
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Subject: [Plot Owners 533] Re: BLUEBELL LAND LTDHiWe bought 5 plots from Baron Deschauer; but at Collingham Gardens in April 2004. Apparantly he has over 20 different companies They will never receive planning permission to build on!I am interested in the legal case; any details?RegardsJassi
On Saturday, 18 December 2010 12:43:55 UTC, AKay80 wrote:Have you had dealings with Baron Deschauer / Bluebell Land Ltd and
purchased investment plots?
There is a pending legal case you may be interested in.
Please contact me for further information.
Regards
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Hi All
I have 2 plots bought off Countrywide Land Holdings and would also be interested in joining a legal process !!
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Jet
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Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 08:17:50 +0000
Tonydo you know who to contact about this case? my friend and I bought some plots and these people have been a nightmare to deal with
On Thursday, 26 September 2013 10:08:38 UTC+1, tony green wrote:Hi another group have been paid out by Baron Deschuer the owner of the land scam companies, they also threaten to take him to court. They got help from a ex sales person who worked for gilbert estates (gilbert estates is also linked to the land scam).
The owners live in a multi million pound estate called Wilderwick House, in Dormansland, I think the house is on 150 acres. Some could say that land scams pay.