All Plot-owners should join forces NOW!!!

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simon...@btinternet.com

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Jan 14, 2008, 9:35:29 AM1/14/08
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I think it might be a good idea for all plot-owners to come together
and create a nationwide plot-owners action group. Whether you dealt
with Hayden James, Profitable plots, Hambrook and Greenstock or
whoever we are all in this together and we need to join forces and be
organized if we are to stand any chance of recouping some of this
money we have all lost. Strength in numbers and good administration is
the key and the way forward.

Possible ways forward could be:

1/ Sue the FSA for negligence, they should have regulated the
landbanking companies before they started advertising to us the
consumer, as they are supposed to regulate all banking and they simply
did not do their job and as a consequence we the taxpayer/investor who
funds that dept have suffered huge personal losses and lots of stress.

2/ Track down the directors of all responsible landbanking firms via
the police/ fraud squad and sue.

3/ Sue the government for not regulating the internet and therefore
leaving us consumers very vulnerable to fraud and theft.

4/ Collectively hire a great lawyer or lawyers who believe we deserve
justice and who also believes the government/FSA/OFT is also at fault.

I would like people to comment on this post if they have any further
ideas or would like to expand on what I've said, I am not a person who
knows the law and my comments are based on my own individual
research.

Can we blame anybody but the landbanking companies. Can we really
point a finger at the FSA and the government. This really needs to be
established before we can move forward as a powerful group.

If people leave their names and plot info below this post then this
could be a start as we will have an idea how many people are amongst
us (so far). There will also be plenty of people out there who will
not be aware of this google group so if any one has any ideas on how
to gather more people who are in the same boat as us then be sure to
air your ideas on this forum.

I just had an idea: The land registry has the names of all plot-
owners. Maybe we can get a database through them and mailshot all of
the plotowners, therefore giving them the option to join this action
group, I'm sure most would join.

The more people we get together then the stronger we will be. The main
advantage would be collectively hiring a good lawyer if there was a
case against the FSA/Government.

Lets get the ball rolling!!

best wishes to all plotowners

Simon

simon...@btinternet.com

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Jan 14, 2008, 2:20:47 PM1/14/08
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Just to add:

Can anyone who supports this idea please reply to this post and not to
the author. I just think it would be the best approach and it would
allow other members to view all posts and comments and therefore the
collective awareness and knowledge of the group will grow with post.

regards

Simon

Fergy

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Jan 14, 2008, 5:01:35 PM1/14/08
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Okay Simon,

Sounds like a damn fine idea to me. It's about time to see what can
be acheived with some collective effort.

Fergy
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Usha

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Jan 15, 2008, 4:51:16 PM1/15/08
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Hi Simon,
I am all for it.
I think we should all join hands and do something about it and try our
best to get our money back.
I just cannot believe how stupid I have been to have invested such
huge amounts of money without doing proper research.
I hope our collective effort will bring some results for us victims.
Usha
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Bharti Tailor

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Jan 16, 2008, 2:13:36 PM1/16/08
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Great idea Simon. I have 2 plots with ELP and would be interested in joining
forces. Count me in.

Bharti

Karen and Steve

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Jan 16, 2008, 6:43:26 PM1/16/08
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Hi Simon,

Great idea, count me in also.

We (my brother and I) bought 2 plots from ELP at the Scholes site near Cleckheaton in

West Yorkshire.

We have also recently been contacted by a Philip R. Pawson (Chartered  Accountant and Barrister),

who is considering a Recovery Plan for Plot owners at Scholes, which he says he has devleloped also

for Plot owners at Milford View. If there is anyone who is aware of what Philip has achieved or has had

experience of the procedures inviolved please let us know. But at least it is possibly another avenue

to consider.

If anyone is unsure what I am talking about please let me know.

Cheers,

Steve Maw - stev...@fsmail.net

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> Subject: [Plot Owners 296] Re: All Plot-owners should join forces NOW!!!

>
>
> Just to add:
>
> Can anyone who supports this idea please reply to this post and not to
> the author. I just think it would be the best approach and it would
> allow other members to view all posts and comments and therefore the
> collective awareness and knowledge of the group will grow with post.
>
> regards
>
> Simon
>
> On Jan 14, 2:35 pm, simondno...@btinternet.com wrote:

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Karen & Steve

Jet Kang

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Jan 17, 2008, 6:15:45 AM1/17/08
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Hi All does anyone have any experience or information on Countrywide Land Holdings please?
 
Thanks
Jet

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Subject: [Plot Owners 304] Re: All Plot-owners should join forces NOW!!!
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 00:43:26 +0100
Karen & Steve</P

bev shields

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Jan 17, 2008, 9:51:12 AM1/17/08
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Hi Simon and All,

 

Yes count me in too.

 

You beat me to it.

I have 4 plots at Scholes purchased from ELP and have been contacted by Philip Rawson.

 

Seems OK on the face of it but need to check him out first.

 

Best regards,

 

Bev. Shields

 

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BJ Hull

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Jan 19, 2008, 6:32:14 AM1/19/08
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Hi Simon
 
We bought four plots of land through Hambrook and Greenstock who are now in liquidation.  We are awaiting the official receiver's report.
 
Yes we support the idea of getting together. 
 
John & B-J Hull
 
 
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Jan 22, 2008, 6:20:27 AM1/22/08
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Wonderful idea Simon. Please add me to the list and let me know what
I can do to help.

Best wishes
Michanne

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john

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Jan 30, 2008, 4:01:23 PM1/30/08
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Hi Simon,
Since your call out for forming a plot owners action group, not many
people come forward to form a group. Why ?
I urge all those reading to
come forward and register themselves in this group.

We need more people and more ideas.

Let us hope that more people will join.

With best wishes

john

N Malik

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Feb 1, 2008, 6:21:28 AM2/1/08
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hi john
count us in   let us know how to register and form group
I am planning to visit  CAB, office of fair trading to get pointers
 
I think it may also be good  idea  for all plot-owners to come together(form groups)
to lobby government to allow  special concessions via local Government
planning permissions.
As plot holders we should consider collectively hire independent planning consultants
who can submit study reports local planning authorities at the District Council.
 
If an action group is formed we should try to work with FSA/ Government  including
deputy prime minsters office to facilitate by using Legislation to allow of planning permissions
this would only be possible by strength in  numbers and planned line of action.
Thus giving these bodies a chance to undo this  negligence and help out taxpayer/investor
who are  facing huge personal losses.
   
Since this  is  country wide issue  the plot holders should form local action group
to meet local  MP in each area  and all these local action group should have National
Association and built this pressure Nationally by  bring this issue into Parliament.
 
 
We will need to form association have elected office bearer with membership fee special
event to raise funds  we will need funding to pursue our cause .
 
We should consider to Sue, FSA/Government/ our solicitors who acted on our behalf mostly
recommended by land banking companies while they were selling these  plots as last
resort  through hire of  smart/specialist lawyers who willing/able and believe that we all
deserve justice.
 
Uzair Malik
Nahid Malik
plot no. 31 n 32 Banstead, Ewell Surrey
bought through Property spy. St. Albans Hertfordshire

usha sharma

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Feb 1, 2008, 5:11:08 PM2/1/08
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HI Malik,
I totally agree with you.
Action can only come about with the help of numbers.
I have contacted FSA, OFT, Financial ombudsman, office of fair trading, consumer helpline, which?, and you name it.
They all had only one thing to say is that they cannot help us because this is not regulated by the FSA. FSA suggested that i log a complaint with the police because it is a case of fraud.....and then hire a good solicitor who could help me.
I contacted a solicitor as well, who wanted to charge £450  by the hour for the first consultation and then suggest what i need to do.
Who wants to spend that kind of money without any kind of assurances???after already having wasted so much money!!
I think that all of us should join hands and then take some action against these thugs!
Regards,
Mrs. Usha Sharma

nicky

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Feb 29, 2008, 11:19:14 AM2/29/08
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I have bought two plots from elp...if any collective group is formed
please count me in.

On Jan 16, 11:43 pm, Karen and Steve <steve...@fsmail.net> wrote:
> Hi Simon,
> Great idea, count me in also.
> We (my brother and I) bought 2 plots from ELP at the Scholes site near Cleckheaton in
> West Yorkshire.
> We have also recently been contacted by a Philip R. Pawson (Chartered Accountant and Barrister),
> who is considering a Recovery Plan for Plot owners at Scholes, which he says he has devleloped also
> for Plot owners at Milford View. If there is anyone who is aware of what Philip has achieved or has had
> experience of the procedures inviolved please let us know. But at least it is possibly another avenue
> to consider.
> If anyone is unsure what I am talking about please let me know.
> Cheers,
> Steve Maw - steve...@fsmail.net
>
>
>
> > Message Received: Jan 14 2008, 07:21 PM
> > From: simondno...@btinternet.com

nicky

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Mar 1, 2008, 12:55:54 PM3/1/08
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First I must apologise because Im not sure how to work this site and
who I am corresponding with and how! I have two plots, one at
Wombourne and one at Gt Kingshill both sold by ELP. Is there any way
all groups can get together in "plot formation" so to speak. Then
each "plot group" can gauge what is happening to their specific area,
and all can liaiase? Otherwise I seem to be internet surfing in the
dark here.

Chris-rail

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Mar 3, 2008, 2:21:38 PM3/3/08
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Just to let you know of my existance. I bought a plot from Hayden
James at Bramhope, Leeds.
Please remember me in any collective coordinated moves. I would value
any info concernng Philip Pawson the Barister whose been mantion in
corespondence.

Thanks
Chris
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nicky

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Mar 5, 2008, 9:46:06 AM3/5/08
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Simon,

Is anyone able to coordinate this coming together of plot owners. I
have answered along with all the others but do not have the computer
skills to organise the group as a whole and the sub groups of
companies and sites. Does anyone out there have the wherewithall to
do this? I need to get in touch with all Kingshill and Wombourne site
owners to see if we can collectively do something with our white
elephant and everyone else is presumeably the same.

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Nicola Merrimaan

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Mar 6, 2008, 4:35:33 AM3/6/08
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Oh God Bhart,
 Ive just checked my documents, which I also had to register myself, and it says the registration is subject to the rights of all creditors of Ian McCallum who is under a bankcruptcy notice.  So at the end of the day we have to wait to see what happens with his bankcruptcy before we actually know if the land is legally ours and before we can see if it has any planning potential.  Is there any one out there who is in the legal profession who can help on this?  Any more Gt Kingshill owners.  Im not even sure whereabouts it is but if someone is near the area anyone is allowed to check with the local planners on the plot,

> From: bharti...@ntlworld.com
> To: nickym...@hotmail.co.uk
> Subject: Re: [Plot Owners 357] Re: All Plot-owners should join forces NOW!!!
> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 22:13:46 +0000
>
> Hi nicky, I have also have 2 plots with with ELP. one in Great Kingshill and
> the other Weybridge. I had to register the weybridge site myself because
> Brown Solicitors were not acting any more. No explanation was given. ELP
> instructed another firm called the Byrne partnership who sent all the
> documents back to me advising they would register the site for a fee or I
> had to instruct another solicitor. They would not give out anymore
> information as ELP are their clients and told me to ring ELP directly to
> dicuss any plots.This was was was a waste of time as there was just an
> answermachine tol eave a message but no one returns any messages.In the end
> I completed the documents myself and I recently received the title deeds
> from the land registry. There is an entry on the register stating that Ian
> Mccallam who was one of thedirectors of ELP is bankrupt! I don know what
> affect this has. I would be happy to join forces.
>
> Regards Bharti

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "nicky" <nickym...@hotmail.co.uk>
> To: "Plot Owners" <plot-...@googlegroups.com>

mully

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Mar 20, 2008, 9:13:07 AM3/20/08
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Hi John

I thoroughly agree, but to be honest I only found out today when I
tried to contact ELP to establish progress of my purchase, what a
joke. I agree with one of the contributors about a mailshot, i believe
there are thousands of people out
there in the same boat and they don't even know it yet!
Why had the solicitors involved in the deals not contacted us as they
had inititated it along with ELP, maybe I am showing my lack of
knowledge on hte subject but surely someone should have contacted us??

Mully
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mully

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Mar 20, 2008, 11:54:47 AM3/20/08
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Hi Guys

I have only seen your message boards today and was wondering has there
been any progress in your efforts to
co-ordinate a plan en masse, whatever you have planned please count me
in, there is no way con man like that should
get away with this type of carry on, we see it on a daily basis all
around the world. So well done on everyone who is
making an effort to turn the tide so the average joe can fight their
corner.
They say " In order for evil to prevail all it takes is for good
people to do nothing" and to take the life savings of
people coming to retirement or trying to build a nest egg is as evil
as it comes.
I really hope we can push on now and gather some momentum but we do
need to contact all the other investors in all the other plots, any
ideas on how this can be done??

Mully

sam yong

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Mar 22, 2008, 1:09:35 AM3/22/08
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Hi All ,
the challenge is that if you read the small print the land banks did not say they sold the land with a guarantee of planning permission. In fact most clearly say that that the land dose not come with planning permission. So in the laws eyes they have done nothing illegal. You have chosen to pay 3-10x times the current market value of the land on speculation!
 
However is you have any documentation which is legally misleading from the company or a agent you can claim miss representation possibly.
 
If this is not the case your best bet is to speak to the company directors in person to claim a refund or go to the local press to make a statement and tell your story.
 
When a land banking company knows you will spoil the market they may want to give you your money back so as not to alarm the local or international market.
 
 Sam
 
 
If you have any

> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:54:47 -0700
> Subject: [Plot Owners 373] Re: All Plot-owners should join forces NOW!!!
> From: smulli...@yahoo.co.uk
> To: plot-...@googlegroups.com

usha sharma

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Mar 25, 2008, 2:19:18 PM3/25/08
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HI Sam,
you are talking about the brochures which do not say anything at all!!!
Lets talk about the sales person advising you on the phone!! Do you have any idea as to what promises are made and what ideas are sold to you on the phone?? is that not misleading and illegal? I think all sales people should have a duty of diligence and care to their customers and not just tell any sort of lies and build a web of lies and deceit just to sell their land which will give them their commission.
We do not have any proof of the phone calls because we do not record them, we are caught unaware!! and that is what these sales people take advantage of. THey think they can say anything to achieve their sales target because we will not have any proof of these tall statements they are making.
Regards,
Usha

Jet Kang

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Mar 26, 2008, 6:06:35 AM3/26/08
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Good comments Usha and agree with you 100%, what can we do about this ?




Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:19:18 +0000
From: usha...@googlemail.com
To: sef...@live.com
Subject: [Plot Owners 379] Re: All Plot-owners should join forces NOW!!!
CC: smulli...@yahoo.co.uk; plot-...@googlegroups.com

Naeem, Mohammed [JACSA]

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Mar 26, 2008, 7:27:51 AM3/26/08
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Hi all
I have bought a plot in Sible Hedingham from Hambrookandgreenstock. I bought it in 2006 and completed my paper work for so called Queens office. I feel that I have got the final paper which states that I am the owner of this plot. (I don't know what is now true in my case).
 
Since I bought the first plot, I was contacted by H&G again but this time from another employee of them, who was insisting me to take one more plot as one plot will cost me with huge taxes etc. To cut short my story I would like to give some names who contacted me and then I finalized the deal. The names list may not be in chronological orders but these are the people who have had contacted me (for those who purchased thru H&G).
 
 
Anyone can shed a light on the role of Zavala Moscoso? I was never successful to contact you on the telephone numbers directly, unless I call thru a calling card and the strange thing is that they were given the physical address of Zurich and the telephone numbers of UK.
 
ALL IN RED.
 
 
 
 

David Peile

Land Banking Consultant

 

Robert Engelbrecht

Land Investment Advisor

 

Drew Hales

Landbanking Manager

 

Natalie Davis

Senior Administrator

 

Fran Martinez

Compliance Officer

 

Andrea Pell

(don't know her title)

 

 

Hambrook & Greenstock (AG)

Gessnerallee 28

CH-8023 Zürich

Tel:   +44  (0) 871 711 5 117

Fax:   +44  (0) 871 711 5 317

email: in...@hambrookandgreenstock.com

Web:  www.hambrookandgreenstock.com

 

Their bank details are:

 

Name of Bank: Lloyds TSB Bank PLC

Address: 296 High Holborn London WC1V 7JH

Swift: LOYDGB21077

Sort code: 30-94-25

Account number: 084 3429

IBAN: GB20 LOYD 3094 2500 8434 29

Account name: Zavala Moscoso & Partners LLP

nah...@hotmail.com

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Mar 26, 2008, 9:26:20 AM3/26/08
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Hi Naeem,

Zavala Moscoso apparently were the solicitors for the company.
Everything was done through them. That's why the whole affair seemed
legitimate!! and they did give me a UK address, when they asked me to
send the deposit cheque:
1 Quality Court
Chancery Lane
London
WC2A 1HR





On Mar 26, 11:27 am, "Naeem, Mohammed [JACSA]" <MNA...@jacsa.jnj.com>
wrote:
> Hi all
> I have bought a plot in Sible Hedingham from Hambrookandgreenstock. I bought it in 2006 and completed my paper work for so called Queens office. I feel that I have got the final paper which states that I am the owner of this plot. (I don't know what is now true in my case).
>
> Since I bought the first plot, I was contacted by H&G again but this time from another employee of them, who was insisting me to take one more plot as one plot will cost me with huge taxes etc. To cut short my story I would like to give some names who contacted me and then I finalized the deal. The names list may not be in chronological orders but these are the people who have had contacted me (for those who purchased thru H&G).
>
> Anyone can shed a light on the role of Zavala Moscoso? I was never successful to contact you on the telephone numbers directly, unless I call thru a calling card and the strange thing is that they were given the physical address of Zurich and the telephone numbers of UK.
>
> ALL IN RED.
>
> David Peile<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />
>
> Land Banking Consultant
>
> Robert Engelbrecht
>
> Land Investment Advisor
>
> Drew Hales
>
> Landbanking Manager
>
> Natalie Davis
>
> Senior Administrator
>
> Fran Martinez
>
> Compliance Officer
>
> Andrea Pell
>
> (don't know her title)
>
> Hambrook & Greenstock (AG)
>
> Gessnerallee 28
>
> CH-8023 Zürich
>
> Tel:   +44  (0) 871 711 5 117
>
> Fax:   +44  (0) 871 711 5 317
>
> email: i...@hambrookandgreenstock.com
>
> Web:   <http://www.hambrookandgreenstock.com>www.hambrookandgreenstock.com
>
> Their bank details are:
>
> Name of Bank: Lloyds TSB Bank PLC
>
> Address: 296 High Holborn London WC1V 7JH
>
> Swift: LOYDGB21077
>
> Sort code: 30-94-25
>
> Account number: 084 3429
>
> IBAN: GB20 LOYD 3094 2500 8434 29
>
> Account name: Zavala Moscoso & Partners LLP
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: plot-...@googlegroups.com [mailto:plot-...@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Jet Kang
> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 1:07 PM
> To: ushar...@googlemail.com; sefn...@live.com
>
> Cc: smullins12...@yahoo.co.uk; Plot Owners
> Subject: [Plot Owners 380] Re: All Plot-owners should join forces NOW!!!
>
> Good comments Usha and agree with you 100%, what can we do about this ?
>
>   _____  
>
> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:19:18 +0000
> From: ushar...@googlemail.com
> To: sefn...@live.com
> Subject: [Plot Owners 379] Re: All Plot-owners should join forces NOW!!!
> CC: smullins12...@yahoo.co.uk; plot-...@googlegroups.com
>
> HI Sam,
> you are talking about the brochures which do not say anything at all!!!
> Lets talk about the sales person advising you on the phone!! Do you have any idea as to what promises are made and what ideas are sold to you on the phone?? is that not misleading and illegal? I think all sales people should have a duty of diligence and care to their customers and not just tell any sort of lies and build a web of lies and deceit just to sell their land which will give them their commission.
> We do not have any proof of the phone calls because we do not record them, we are caught unaware!! and that is what these sales people take advantage of. THey think they can say anything to achieve their sales target because we will not have any proof of these tall statements they are making.
> Regards,
> Usha
>
> On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 5:09 AM, sam yong < sefn...@live.com> wrote:
>
> Hi All ,
> the challenge is that if you read the small print the land banks did not say they sold the land with a guarantee of planning permission. In fact most clearly say that that the land dose not come with planning permission. So in the laws eyes they have done nothing illegal. You have chosen to pay 3-10x times the current market value of the land on speculation!
>
> However is you have any documentation which is legally misleading from the company or a agent you can claim miss representation possibly.
>
> If this is not the case your best bet is to speak to the company directors in person to claim a refund or go to the local press to make a statement and tell your story.
>
> When a land banking company knows you will spoil the market they may want to give you your money back so as not to alarm the local or international market.
>
>  Sam
>
> If you have any
>
> > Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:54:47 -0700
> > Subject: [Plot Owners 373] Re: All Plot-owners should join forces NOW!!!
> > From: smullins12...@yahoo.co.uk

dalestrong

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Mar 28, 2008, 1:42:37 AM3/28/08
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Found another site at www.uklandbanking.com that can help to gather
plot owners together to do something about their investments.

api

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Apr 27, 2008, 4:22:40 PM4/27/08
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hi everyone

i believe we are all owners of plots of land. I am not sure who is
sorting out the database of plots owner mentionned earlier. If there
is no one I'll be glad to prepare the database and possibily arrange a
meeting where we can really discuss certain issues. I have written to
several institutions regarding this. I am in contact with a couple of
owners. Let be serious about this.
Whoever is in charge please add me into it or send me your names, the
compan you bought from, and the cost for now
> ...
>
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mad nut

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May 6, 2008, 11:05:15 AM5/6/08
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Hello All,

I have stumbled onto this site after much searching ;I too "own" a
plot sold by a company now in administration;the land is is Marsh
Lane
Nantwich,and the company is "Land Banking (UK) PLC".If anyone else
reading is in the same boat please enter details.
I am interested in joining any groups active in this field.
Does anyone feel that we ought to have a case against the solicitors
involved ? Surely they must have had some idea what was going on in
all cases.They all legally need to be insured against bad or
negligent
advice.
One thing seems obvious to me as why nobody seems to be getting
together;NOBODY LEAVES A PROFILE !
I am entering my details so I suggest that a few others do likewise.

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veragain

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Aug 25, 2013, 3:02:05 AM8/25/13
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I know I'm a bit late! but I've only just come across this forum. I've recently moved and once again looked through all the bumpf from H&G and thought 'do I throw this away at last? I'll just have a look online to see if there's any chance of doing anything with it'. The thread stopped in May 2008. What happened? Did anyone get any money back?!

The directors Andres Schenker & Claudia Daxelhoffer may have been disqualified from being directors for 12 years in October 2009 (i.e. a slight rap on the knuckles) but the court made no mention of PAYING investors back their money! Also, they now seem to be running a smart consultancy firm called TRESAG (www.tresag.ch) with Andres listed first, as founder (er, isn't that the same as being a director?) and Claudia listed second, then a long list of associates. 

Yes, it's 7 years since we bought our plots but I'm still involved in trying to get money back from Instant Access Properties which was also 7 years ago. Victims of that scam have an active forum and are working with Spanish lawyers who are having some success with some cases. If anyone is still out there and still wants their money back from H&G then please reply.

Mick Bell

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Aug 26, 2013, 10:18:52 AM8/26/13
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Hi all, every time i see a message like this i put my name down in the hope something might get done.

I bought 2 plots from Hambrook and Greenstock at Sible Heddingham.

Since i have never had any contact, i assume that no lawyers think there is any chance of getting our money back.

Just my view.

 

Mick Bell.       mick...@sky.com

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Rik Asthana

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Aug 26, 2013, 10:20:10 AM8/26/13
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Same here but I own one from Property Spy. 

Harpreet Kaur

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Aug 26, 2013, 1:59:58 PM8/26/13
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Hi Yes all the victims of land banking schemes should join the force but to get automatic right to build on these plots regardless any restrictions instead of complaining about what happened with us.


Kind Regards
Preet Kaur

Rik Asthana

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Aug 26, 2013, 2:27:20 PM8/26/13
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How so you propose we do this? It's hard enough finding people who have bought on the same plot. 
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Rik Asthana

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Aug 27, 2013, 5:10:32 AM8/27/13
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Unless there is a solicitor willing to take this cause up i.e. if they think we have a case, then it is worth pursuing the original land agents.
 
However, unfortunately, if the Company has been declared bankrupt, I don't think there is a lot that can be done except possibly getting an agent and trying to seek planning permission.
 
Either way it will take a group effort.
 

Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 18:59:58 +0100
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Subject: [Plot Owners 595] Re: All Plot-owners should join forces NOW!!!
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Hi Yes all the victims of land banking schemes should join the force but to get automatic right to build on these plots regardless any restrictions instead of complaining about what happened with us.


Kind Regards
Preet Kaur

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Oct 31, 2013, 9:11:36 AM10/31/13
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If anyone is planning to organise a joint approach to litigation against Gilbert estates, Warrengate (Herts) Ltd or Mr baron Deschauer, then please make contact with our group for possible inclusion.
Cheers.
Keith.

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Nov 5, 2013, 6:08:04 AM11/5/13
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Same old story, lots of people moaning and no one actually doing anything!

Plot 123

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Nov 5, 2013, 6:22:31 AM11/5/13
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I agree Preet, stop moaning and go for planning.

be...@hotmail.com

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Sep 26, 2014, 10:44:33 AM9/26/14
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Calling all Sible Hedingham Land Owners!
I would be really interested in speaking to you please.
Kind Regards, Becky.

dikumbisakidila1

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Dec 12, 2014, 7:16:17 AM12/12/14
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Dear Sirs./
my name is Ruth and I am a plot owner number 80 of a company called warrangate in Herts are you also talking about this company because i have been working in Africa for the last four years have just come back and seen these notices so you can count on me and perhaps someone can explain to me what is going on late as it may be
thanks Ruti 

samg...@gmail.com

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Aug 2, 2015, 11:47:48 AM8/2/15
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Hi sounds great what can WE do?.Please keep me informed thanks 
Sam


On Monday, January 14, 2008 at 7:20:47 PM UTC, Simon Noble wrote:
Just to add:

Can anyone who supports this idea please reply to this post and not to
the author. I just think it would be the best approach and it would
allow other members to view all posts and comments and therefore the
collective awareness and knowledge of the group will grow with post.

regards

Simon

Nadeem Malik

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May 12, 2023, 2:23:18 AM5/12/23
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Hello,

Just joined this group -- is it still active?

I bought plots in Earl Shilton, Leictershire. Would like to know the latest developments please.
Is there anything that can be done?

Thanks
Nadeem
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