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Endike Baur

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Aug 5, 2024, 11:17:24 AM8/5/24
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2things. How big the HDD the motherboard will support is based on chipset and controller. For example some old chipset like 440bx cannot see HDD above 120GB but some new chipset or controller card like a promise controller card or a scsi controller card is no limited to that.

98se out of the box cannot see above 120, but 98se has patches to see above 120 but you have to patch the OS however patching the OS wont matter if you have some old chipset like 440bx cuz thats hardware limited unless you are running off a PCI controller card that can support big hdd. It is a very similar statement to something like windows XP does not support bluray but later on microsoft delivered a patch so it would. Out of the box no, patch yes? easy.


Personally Id use the 120GB SSD. That should work with no problem and will be big performance increase over a HDD. Just make sure that you align the patrician and format it with Gparted, then once you have it installed disable scandisk and never run that or run defrag


With aligned partitions you will also have to run 98set with the arguments setup.exe /is to skip scandisk on install. Otherwise it will complain to you that theres something wrong with the partitian because it doesn't know what a properly aligned SSD is.


you should run your HDDs on separate IDE controller channels if possible. Master on IDE 1 with no slave. And master on IDE 2 no slave. But if you want to use a CD drive you should yes put them as master and slave on primary and hook the CDrom up on its own channel. Since CD roms use ATAPI it will mess with your disk transfer speeds.


I think that for 98se that 200gigs of storage is personnally over kill. I can only see this making sense if you want to store 100s of ISO images and just mount them with elby virtual clone drive instead of having to use CDs. Which i a good way to go just know if a game supports CD audio it wont do that.


A 120gb SSD will cost you 20$, an IDE to SATA converter will cost you another 20$ at the most. For performance, responsiveness, and reliability IMO it just makes the most sense. I always use my kingston 120gb SSD driver for any windows 98 build.


"Just make sure that you align the patrician and format it with Gparted, then once you have it installed disable scandisk and never run that or run defrag With aligned partitions you will also have to run 98set with the arguments setup.exe /is to skip scandisk on install."


A bit hard to understand is there a 1,2,3,... super easy and quick checklist on how to use a SSD on a fresh Win98SE install ?

For complete amateurs so I won't have a massive headache by the end of the day.


yes, I would do it this way and follow these instructions. Dont run scandisk on the driver ever though. 98se should be set up with the Setup.exe /IS command /is also works with 98lite. Obviouly you don't use full format to format a SSD either if later on you want to reformat without changing the partition table use FREEDOS format with the /Q for quick. Dont run defrag. You can install tweak UI and disable scandisk aswell.




I had trouble initially when I set the sector size to 4096 bytes. 98 would not install itself on the partition I made. What I did was install windows 98 using fdisk and the installation CD, and then I took the hard drive out and put it in my modern windows machine, and used mini partition tool to realign the partition in-place without deleting the data. I popped it back into my 98 machine and it booted up no problem. Compared to no alignment, I doubled my write speeds.


98 setup automatically invokes scandisk during install, and when it does it doesn't know what to make of a aligned SSD partitian and will refuse to install windows at least in my testing. using the /is setup switch will bypass scandisk on setup allowing you to skip that. scandisk might be ok to run but in my case it always tells me I have errors and trys to fix them instead of just reporting them to me, and in my case I don't want it to fix my ssd since I know that it thinks its bad and i know its not.


A suggestion: VCV is the company, and Rack is the software. You might want to re-title the topic and adjust the headings in the list to take that into account. Also, you might want to say these are module clones and emulations in the title/document name.

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