Applying rigid registration of two MR images using plastimatch warp

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Alexandra B

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Nov 22, 2022, 11:16:58 AM11/22/22
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Dear plastimatch community,

I am trying to apply a rigid registration (done with Velocity) of two MR images using the plastimatch warp command.

My original data is in dicom type (MRI and rigid registration object exported from Velocity). As a first step, I have used the command plastimatch convert, to convert the dicom files into mha.

The dicom rigid registration has been performed using Velocity and exported in dcm format. We are then trying to use this to rigidly align our images by using the transformation matrix from the dicom rigid registration object with the tag (3006,00C6) found in the dicom header.

My question is: Which convention for the Euler angles does plastimatch warp use?

I have tried many conventions already, but my result has never been good enough. I.e. the result differs from the rigidly aligned images directly exported from velocity.

The best result is received using the following:

alpha = arctan(R_32/R_33); beta = arctan(-R_12/R_11); gamma = arctan(-R_23/sqrt(1-(R_23)^2)),

where the rotation matrix is simply given by [R_11 R_12 R_13; R_21 R_22 R_23; R_31 R_32 R_33].

The rotation parameters were then the negative values of the Euler angles (-alpha, -beta, -gamma) and the translation parameters were the negative translation vector entries from the transformation matrix (last column of the 4x4 matrix).

I have chosen the fixed parameters to be (0 0 0).

Which changes do I have to make? Am I missing something straightforward?

I suspect it could have something to do with the image orientation of my MRI data. I have found that from the tag (0020,0037) in the dicom header of the MR image, I receive a rotation matrix as follows: R = [1 0 0; 0 0 -1; 0 1 0] (direction cosines).

In the 4D Slicer VV, I receive a transformation matrix, which includes this rotation, but also a translation (see attached image). This translation is derived by computing the following:

origin – R * origin.

Could anyone tell me if this has an influence on the rigid registration using plastimatch warp? Do you have any experience in where this might be coming from?

Thank you for your help and best regards,

Alexandra


Attachments:

Here I have attached the rigid transformation matrix from the dicom tag (3006,00C6) for one of my cases:

(3006,00C6).png

Here the transformation matrix for the MRI data as seen in VV:

VVmatrix.png

For the plastimatch warp command I then tried the following txt parameter file:

parameters.png

Sharp, Gregory C.

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Nov 22, 2022, 2:10:28 PM11/22/22
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Hi Alexandra,

 

The Euler angles are defined by ITK and are not documented.  I will take a look at the source code and get back to you.

 

The rotation matrix of VV is a conversion from IEC to DICOM coordinates.  IEC is LSA whereas DICOM is LPS.  The REG object should be DICOM: LPS and mm.

 

I'll note a few more things which may help.  (Or may confuse.)

 

First, you can use plastimatch xf-convert to convert your ITK versor transform into a DICOM REG.  This should help with debugging.  Second, you can consider using the ITK Affine transform instead.  Here is an example:

 

#Insight Transform File V1.0

#Transform 0

Transform: AffineTransform_double_3_3

Parameters: 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 20 40 60

FixedParameters: 0 0 0

 

I didn't fully understand your last question.  Are you asking about registration or warping?

 

Greg

 

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Here the transformation matrix for the MRI data as seen in VV:

For the plastimatch warp command I then tried the following txt parameter file:

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Sharp, Gregory C.

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Nov 22, 2022, 2:25:18 PM11/22/22
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Hi again,

 

Here is the follow up.  The ITK versor is not Euler angles.  Instead, it is an angle-axis format.  So, for R=(Rx,Ry,Rz),  R / ||R|| is the unit vector about which the rotation takes place, and ||R|| is the magnitude of rotation.

 

-Greg

Alexandra B

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Nov 23, 2022, 8:05:13 AM11/23/22
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Dear Greg,

Thank you very much for your answer.

Regarding my last question: I want to use the rigid registration, which has been clinically obtained. In the clinic they have used Velocity to perform the rigid registration.

I use the plastimatch warp command to apply the rigid registration on my MRI:

plastimatch warp  --input "MRI.mha"  --fixed "MRI_fixed.mha"  --output-img "MRI_warped.mha" --xf "rigid.txt"

I have tried the Affine Transformation. There I get quite a good result, but it is not good enough. Also, as the registration in Velocity was a rigid registration (tag (0070,030C)), I feel like I need to use the Rigid3D Transformation.

I am still struggling with obtaining the versor parameters for the rotation. Could you maybe elaborate more on this?
I understand that I need to normalize with the magnitude of the rotation to make sure that the matrix obeys orthonormal transformation properties.
The axis-anlge format means (if I understand correctly) that it is the Euler angle multiplied by the direction of the rotation. Does this now mean that I need to compute the Euler angles and multiply them by the direction-cosines for each axis?
If it is the case, then I still need to use the Euler angles and I have to find out the convention of the angles. Is it generally the yaw, pitch, and roll convention (R = Rz(alpha)Ry(beta)Rx(gamma))?

About this comment: "First, you can use plastimatch xf-convert to convert your ITK versor transform into a DICOM REG.  This should help with debugging."

I'm not sure if I understand correctly. I tried to do this, but it said that the registration object is not yet supported. This is my input:
plastimatch xf-convert - -input rigid.txt - -output-dicom DICOMREG.dcm.
Is this incorrect? Could you give me the correct command?
I think it is incorrect to use - -output-dicom, as this gives a dicom image and not the dicom registration object, however I cannot find the correct command for the dicom registration object.

Thanks again so much for your help and sorry for all my questions!

Alexandra

Sharp, Gregory C.

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Nov 23, 2022, 10:33:37 AM11/23/22
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Hi Alexandra,

 

Euler angles specify three successive rotations about the x, y, and/or z axes.  Angle/axis specifies a single rotation about an arbitrary axis.  The following article might be useful.

 

https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/1972695/converting-from-rotation-matrix-to-axis-angle-with-no-ambiguity

 

First you calculate the angle (theta, using the formula in the question), next you calculate the axis (v, using the formula in the answer), and finally you multiply angle with axis.  For your matrix, I got: 0.128340157672645   0.950733780849466   0.282210203953310.

 

To generate the REG from the tfm, you need to specify the fixed and moving images such that the correct UIDs are used.  If you have the original DICOM directories fixed/ and moving/, it is like this:

 

plastimatch xf-convert --input versor.tfm --output-dicom DICOM-SRO/ --fixed-rcs fixed/ --moving-rcs moving/

Alexandra B

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Nov 23, 2022, 10:50:30 AM11/23/22
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Hi Greg,

Thank you so much, this helps a lot.
I will try and retrace your steps to see if I get the same result for the parameters.

Thanks again and best regards,
Alexandra
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