WE FAILED & THEY WON THE GAME. THE AGM not conducted democratically. Did not allow us to speak. Accounts and Budget passed wrongly.
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ROY GEORGE
Sep 3, 2012, 6:24:24 AM9/3/12
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Dear All,
When I met Mr. Sanjay on the previous eve of GBM, he told me very
much confidently that this GB would wind up in 15 minutes as they
could not able to pass both a/cs & Budget.
I have also prepared not even to allow them to start the meeting
officially. It should be wound up before its starts.
As per my plan, I literally made the said GBM STAND STILL for one
hour from 10am to 11am. I presented everything in such a fashion. No
body in the meeting including managing committe and Chairman has no
satisfactory reply. Everybody was quite & it was stand still.
This was the time to catch up & hold the control of the meeting in
hand, force them to get out the illegal member who is a big cheat,
fraud etc
There itself it was to be wound up. Even Mr.Sanjay & Mr. Karandikar
were kept quite. It was a big surprise for me. However a new member
came forward & declared that it is right to remove that illegal member
before the meeting starts. Nobody else said anything.
Finally Chairman agreed & declared that I can not remove him, if you
have any complaint , then go to court. This time too Mr.Sanjay could
have caught up, but did not. He could have told that you go managing
committee to court instead of us, we want to start the meeting legally
by removing the illegal memner. Ofcourse this time few other members
would have been supported us & it was wound up there iteself.
I understood that it was happened due to his over confident as
Mr.Sanjay thought it would been possible with a/cs agenda. but failed.
When got chance which would not have been utilised, specially there
were not enough members who support to us.
This incident hurt me a lot and I have lost my faith on Mr. Sanyjay &
Mr. Karandikar etc. Hence I have no interest to continue opposing them
unless there are enough support.
No need to copy any further communication to me unless the situation
is improved.
Thanks & regards,
ROY/A2/202.
On 9/2/12, SANJAY ASHRIT <sanjay...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>
> Actually it is unfortunate that Rajesh patil and his team did not allow us
> to speak. They after having accepted that Mr. Gokakkar is not a valid
> Associate member but still was allowed to attend the meeting. Though he has
> already done a fraud, Rajesh patil and his team supported him. Why did he
> not elaborate and explain why action was not taken against Gokakkar. This
> shows that they are all hand in gloves.
> I had already given 3 letters to society office regarding the issues in the
> Annual Report. However they did not allow me to discuss these issues and
> rather put the motion for adoption of accounts and the budget which was
> passed by his supporters.
> Now he accused me that I had not accepted letter sent by office. Let me
> clarify that as already informed to you in earlier mail that Ganesh had come
> with 4 letters to me day before yesterday morning at around 11 AM and all
> the letters were not signed by any office bearers and were also not on the
> letter head of the society. They were just bearing the rubber stamp of the
> society. How could I accept such letters when they were not on the letter
> head of the society and also were not signed by any office
> bearers.(Chairman/Secretary). I informed Ganesh to ask them to give in on
> the letter head of the Society and duly signed by Chairman and Secretary.
> Ganesh Came to me next day that is on 1st Sept 12, at around 1 pm when I was
> going out for work and was just about to sit in my car. I told him to come
> after 2 hours and asked him to see whether they are on the letter head of
> society and also signed by chairman.
> He called me at 5 pm when I was again with one of my client and was outside.
> He told me that they are not signed by Rajesh patil. I told him that as I
> had written letter to Chairman as per notice to the AGM, I expected him to
> sign and give me. But since he did not sign , how could I accept such
> letter?. Ganesh did not come to me again. Rajesh patil gave wrong
> information to all the members at the meeting. And he and his team did not
> allow me to speak and clarify the matter. Such is the dictatorship of the
> present committee members.
> Dear all let us all join together and file a case in the Co-Operative Court
> and ask for justice.
> I am sure that truth will always win and have faith and patience in the
> judiciary. Come and be bold enough to file a case against these committee
> members. They are cheating and giving false information to all. Tomorrow
> they will again increase the membership subsciption fees as they will have
> to refund the excess collected from the members who have paid occupancy
> charges. Society has collected 20% instead of 10% and thus violated the
> byelaws. If society needs to refund the excess collection then they will
> have to collect extra fees from all of us as the excess collection made by
> them has already been spent by them. Then tomorrow will all of you pay
> excess for the refund? Why should we all innocent members pay for the
> mistake of the managing committee members.?. Even interest will have to be
> paid if the matter goes to the Court. The amount of refund for last 8 years
> may run in crores of Rupees!.
> So either be prepared to shell out more money or come forward to ask for
> justice from the Courts.
> Satyamev Jayatey.
>
> S
>
> --- On Fri, 31/8/12, ROY GEORGE <roym...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: ROY GEORGE <roym...@gmail.com>
> Subject: POLICY TO RAISE COMMON ISSUE IN THE GBM
> To: pla...@googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, 31 August, 2012, 10:17 AM
>
>
> Dear Mr. Atulji,
>
> This time we should nominate one of our rep.; a new member; to raise
> Mr.Gokakar's legality of being M/committe member & his right to
> attend GBM:
>
> This should be raised immediately after the GB meeting started officially.
>
> You, Mr. Sanjay, & Mr.Jadhav should not raise this point initially as
> they are complaining you people are disctrubing them. This should
> help to show that even other members have the same view.
>
> Incase while raising the point, all committe members may stand
> together & raise voice. This time you all should catch the point in
> such a way that you all Mananging C/members keep quite & do not
> disctrub others to express their view.
>
> Then we all to stick to the point unitll they show the legal valid
> documents.
>
>
> 2. His disqualification. He became a defalter as he has been using
> socy cash for 3 years. Proof is the resocy record.
>
> 3. We have seen an advt in the City Plus shwoing that there has been
> a vacancy in the socy Ofiice as Manager.
>
> What is reason you all have together passed a resoullution in the
> Monthly meeting held on 29.02.12 to remove the then Manager with
> immediate effect. We want to know what that Manager did against the
> Socy? We want to know the reason & punich such a manager who worked
> against the socy's interest.
>
> A big conspiracy was made to remove the then Manager by Chairman:
>
> Chairman along with Mr.Pratapwar made a big conspiracy for moving out
> the then manager and they interviewed a person who has been brought by
> Mr. Pratapwar. This interview has been conducted in the residence of
> Mr.Rajesh Patil's (Chairman) residence one day morning even without
> informing secretary Mr.P.T. Rajan. This is the proof of big
> conspiracy.
>
> Let Mr. Rajan say in the GB that : Is it true or false?
>
> We should not allow to speak anyone else form Managing committee other
> than Mr.Rajan.
>
> If the Manager is guilty, then, punish her or else punish the people
> who has made conspiracy & passed the ressolution againt the then
> Manager.
>
> Follows other matter.
>
> All points should be presented in a systematic way. The end result
> would be that every one who are there in the GBM will support us.
>
> Plan to make strategy.
>
> Thanks & regds,
>
> Roy
>
>
>
> On 8/30/12, atul kumthekar <akum...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> with some improvisionation (bold italics and few statement alternations)
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 12:50 PM, atul kumthekar <akum...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The feedback that I plan to submit today, is attached.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 8:12 AM, atul kumthekar
>>> <akum...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> For everyone's reference. I am preparing a reply to this and post it as
>>>> well for feedback, before submitting to Society.
>>>>
>>>> atul kumthekar
>>>> 9822242129
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Atul Kumthekar
>>>
>>> landline : +91 20 27404180
>>> mobile : +91 9822242129
>>> VoIP (USA) : +001 408 338 6370
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Atul Kumthekar
>>
>> landline : +91 20 27404180
>> mobile : +91 9822242129
>> VoIP (USA) : +001 408 338 6370
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
>
>
> --
>
>
>
When I met Mr. Sanjay on the previous eve of GBM, he told me very
much confidently that this GB would wind up in 15 minutes as they
could not able to pass both a/cs & Budget.
I have also prepared not even to allow them to start the meeting
officially. It should be wound up before its starts.
As per my plan, I literally made the said GBM STAND STILL for one
hour from 10am to 11am. I presented everything in such a fashion. No
body in the meeting including managing committe and Chairman has no
satisfactory reply. Everybody was quite & it was stand still.
This was the time to catch up & hold the control of the meeting in
hand, force them to get out the illegal member who is a big cheat,
fraud etc
There itself it was to be wound up. Even Mr.Sanjay & Mr. Karandikar
were kept quite. It was a big surprise for me. However a new member
came forward & declared that it is right to remove that illegal member
before the meeting starts. Nobody else said anything.
Finally Chairman agreed & declared that I can not remove him, if you
have any complaint , then go to court. This time too Mr.Sanjay could
have caught up, but did not. He could have told that you go managing
committee to court instead of us, we want to start the meeting legally
by removing the illegal memner. Ofcourse this time few other members
would have been supported us & it was wound up there iteself.
I understood that it was happened due to his over confident as
Mr.Sanjay thought it would been possible with a/cs agenda. but failed.
When got chance which would not have been utilised, specially there
were not enough members who support to us.
This incident hurt me a lot and I have lost my faith on Mr. Sanyjay &
Mr. Karandikar etc. Hence I have no interest to continue opposing them
unless there are enough support.
No need to copy any further communication to me unless the situation
is improved.
Thanks & regards,
ROY/A2/202.
On 9/2/12, SANJAY ASHRIT <sanjay...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
>
> Actually it is unfortunate that Rajesh patil and his team did not allow us
> to speak. They after having accepted that Mr. Gokakkar is not a valid
> Associate member but still was allowed to attend the meeting. Though he has
> already done a fraud, Rajesh patil and his team supported him. Why did he
> not elaborate and explain why action was not taken against Gokakkar. This
> shows that they are all hand in gloves.
> I had already given 3 letters to society office regarding the issues in the
> Annual Report. However they did not allow me to discuss these issues and
> rather put the motion for adoption of accounts and the budget which was
> passed by his supporters.
> Now he accused me that I had not accepted letter sent by office. Let me
> clarify that as already informed to you in earlier mail that Ganesh had come
> with 4 letters to me day before yesterday morning at around 11 AM and all
> the letters were not signed by any office bearers and were also not on the
> letter head of the society. They were just bearing the rubber stamp of the
> society. How could I accept such letters when they were not on the letter
> head of the society and also were not signed by any office
> bearers.(Chairman/Secretary). I informed Ganesh to ask them to give in on
> the letter head of the Society and duly signed by Chairman and Secretary.
> Ganesh Came to me next day that is on 1st Sept 12, at around 1 pm when I was
> going out for work and was just about to sit in my car. I told him to come
> after 2 hours and asked him to see whether they are on the letter head of
> society and also signed by chairman.
> He called me at 5 pm when I was again with one of my client and was outside.
> He told me that they are not signed by Rajesh patil. I told him that as I
> had written letter to Chairman as per notice to the AGM, I expected him to
> sign and give me. But since he did not sign , how could I accept such
> letter?. Ganesh did not come to me again. Rajesh patil gave wrong
> information to all the members at the meeting. And he and his team did not
> allow me to speak and clarify the matter. Such is the dictatorship of the
> present committee members.
> Dear all let us all join together and file a case in the Co-Operative Court
> and ask for justice.
> I am sure that truth will always win and have faith and patience in the
> judiciary. Come and be bold enough to file a case against these committee
> members. They are cheating and giving false information to all. Tomorrow
> they will again increase the membership subsciption fees as they will have
> to refund the excess collected from the members who have paid occupancy
> charges. Society has collected 20% instead of 10% and thus violated the
> byelaws. If society needs to refund the excess collection then they will
> have to collect extra fees from all of us as the excess collection made by
> them has already been spent by them. Then tomorrow will all of you pay
> excess for the refund? Why should we all innocent members pay for the
> mistake of the managing committee members.?. Even interest will have to be
> paid if the matter goes to the Court. The amount of refund for last 8 years
> may run in crores of Rupees!.
> So either be prepared to shell out more money or come forward to ask for
> justice from the Courts.
> Satyamev Jayatey.
>
> S
>
> --- On Fri, 31/8/12, ROY GEORGE <roym...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: ROY GEORGE <roym...@gmail.com>
> Subject: POLICY TO RAISE COMMON ISSUE IN THE GBM
> To: pla...@googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, 31 August, 2012, 10:17 AM
>
>
> Dear Mr. Atulji,
>
> This time we should nominate one of our rep.; a new member; to raise
> Mr.Gokakar's legality of being M/committe member & his right to
> attend GBM:
>
> This should be raised immediately after the GB meeting started officially.
>
> You, Mr. Sanjay, & Mr.Jadhav should not raise this point initially as
> they are complaining you people are disctrubing them. This should
> help to show that even other members have the same view.
>
> Incase while raising the point, all committe members may stand
> together & raise voice. This time you all should catch the point in
> such a way that you all Mananging C/members keep quite & do not
> disctrub others to express their view.
>
> Then we all to stick to the point unitll they show the legal valid
> documents.
>
>
> 2. His disqualification. He became a defalter as he has been using
> socy cash for 3 years. Proof is the resocy record.
>
> 3. We have seen an advt in the City Plus shwoing that there has been
> a vacancy in the socy Ofiice as Manager.
>
> What is reason you all have together passed a resoullution in the
> Monthly meeting held on 29.02.12 to remove the then Manager with
> immediate effect. We want to know what that Manager did against the
> Socy? We want to know the reason & punich such a manager who worked
> against the socy's interest.
>
> A big conspiracy was made to remove the then Manager by Chairman:
>
> Chairman along with Mr.Pratapwar made a big conspiracy for moving out
> the then manager and they interviewed a person who has been brought by
> Mr. Pratapwar. This interview has been conducted in the residence of
> Mr.Rajesh Patil's (Chairman) residence one day morning even without
> informing secretary Mr.P.T. Rajan. This is the proof of big
> conspiracy.
>
> Let Mr. Rajan say in the GB that : Is it true or false?
>
> We should not allow to speak anyone else form Managing committee other
> than Mr.Rajan.
>
> If the Manager is guilty, then, punish her or else punish the people
> who has made conspiracy & passed the ressolution againt the then
> Manager.
>
> Follows other matter.
>
> All points should be presented in a systematic way. The end result
> would be that every one who are there in the GBM will support us.
>
> Plan to make strategy.
>
> Thanks & regds,
>
> Roy
>
>
>
> On 8/30/12, atul kumthekar <akum...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> with some improvisionation (bold italics and few statement alternations)
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 12:50 PM, atul kumthekar <akum...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The feedback that I plan to submit today, is attached.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 8:12 AM, atul kumthekar
>>> <akum...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> For everyone's reference. I am preparing a reply to this and post it as
>>>> well for feedback, before submitting to Society.
>>>>
>>>> atul kumthekar
>>>> 9822242129
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Atul Kumthekar
>>>
>>> landline : +91 20 27404180
>>> mobile : +91 9822242129
>>> VoIP (USA) : +001 408 338 6370
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Atul Kumthekar
>>
>> landline : +91 20 27404180
>> mobile : +91 9822242129
>> VoIP (USA) : +001 408 338 6370
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
>
>
> --
>
>
>
atul kumthekar
Sep 3, 2012, 6:40:06 AM9/3/12
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Let us not loose heart, I will say. It is definitely not an easy task.
I think, in principle if they are agreeing that Mr Gokakkar is not the legal member, we can just bring it to the notice of right authority and serve the notice. Remember how it happened in case of Bond issue?
We should demand three things:
1. Mr Ijantkar should resign or undo his taking into body
2. Mr Sandeep Powar should resign
3. Mr Gokakkar case.
also, we need to gear up for the society grahak manch or equivalent.
the other things to push for, are:
1. meeting minutes of monthly meeting to be displayed on notice board.
2. It was agreed to keep one day in a week as open day for anyone to see the documents at office. Push for this.
atul kumthekar
I think, in principle if they are agreeing that Mr Gokakkar is not the legal member, we can just bring it to the notice of right authority and serve the notice. Remember how it happened in case of Bond issue?
We should demand three things:
1. Mr Ijantkar should resign or undo his taking into body
2. Mr Sandeep Powar should resign
3. Mr Gokakkar case.
also, we need to gear up for the society grahak manch or equivalent.
the other things to push for, are:
1. meeting minutes of monthly meeting to be displayed on notice board.
2. It was agreed to keep one day in a week as open day for anyone to see the documents at office. Push for this.
atul kumthekar
SANJAY ASHRIT
Sep 3, 2012, 8:50:33 AM9/3/12
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Am really shocked with the comments of Mr. Roy.
Tell me did he expect us to have a fight? Am a person who will abide by the law of the land. If they do not respect the law then I have a right to approach the courts. Am not afraid of Court case. Have guts and hence do not run away. if you want to join me in filing a court case then you are welcome. Else it is upto you to decide whether you want to keep in contact or not. Atul ran away from the meeting and may be it was only me who have points which are valid. Even yesterday Rajesh patil confessed that it was only after me giving in writing a letter to society that they realised that Gokakkar was not a legal member. You people lost the chance!. Now I feel I need not share my next moves with you all as you were afraid of filing an FIR when he had given a threat to Mrs. Roy. Last time also when Sandeep had become violent in the meeting I called up the police and got his written apology and record the incident in the police diary. Actually
Atul you should have guts to file the case as he had humiliated you and had threatened you and also pushed you back. If you too would have given the complaint then they would not have dared to conduct the meetings undemocratically.
Mr. Roy did not oppose the passing of the accounts and the budget!. May be he had his own limitations well known to him only. But I still respect him though he is upset. Actually I too supported Mr. Roys views which he may not have noticed. He thinks that the new person supported him, but it was his stand against Dr Jadhav. That chap gave wrong information to all. I will tackle this independently at appropriate levels.
I am sure all these people will repent for yesterdays events.
Atul your group is really inactive and has failed to get results and are afraid of filing court case against the wrong doers.
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SANJAY ASHRIT
Sep 3, 2012, 8:56:48 AM9/3/12
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Let me correct the statement now. I would rather say that We have won and they have failed. As We are going democratically and as per the law of the land. No one is above the law. Tomorrow they will have to repent for all their deeds and frauds.
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atul kumthekar
Sep 3, 2012, 9:03:06 AM9/3/12
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All n all I think we should respect each other and show maturity for the personal things that may come in between now and then.
I will take the blame of "running away" for this time, but it was a grand event planned 2 months back and I could not skip the Nashik trip at all.I was hopeful to start back early morning but reached nashik pretty late so could not manage it. I take the full blame for it.
I guess we need to understand everyone's personal things, and missing one GBM should not wash all the other efforts that are put in by me. I will of course get the details as to what happened and how.
I am going today evening to see the information and submit the letter that I prepared (sent in earlier email on the group)
I would like to know:
CAN WE NOT ASK FOR GOVT AUDIT?
regards,
Atul Kumthekar
9822242129
I will take the blame of "running away" for this time, but it was a grand event planned 2 months back and I could not skip the Nashik trip at all.I was hopeful to start back early morning but reached nashik pretty late so could not manage it. I take the full blame for it.
I guess we need to understand everyone's personal things, and missing one GBM should not wash all the other efforts that are put in by me. I will of course get the details as to what happened and how.
I am going today evening to see the information and submit the letter that I prepared (sent in earlier email on the group)
I would like to know:
CAN WE NOT ASK FOR GOVT AUDIT?
regards,
Atul Kumthekar
9822242129
atul kumthekar
Sep 3, 2012, 9:04:38 AM9/3/12
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I think it is a great VICTORY if Mr Rajesh Patil has publically agreed that Mr Gokakkar is not a legitimate member of the society.
cheers... let us act on that.
Atul Kumthekar
9822242129
cheers... let us act on that.
Atul Kumthekar
9822242129
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