Re: [HPAC] Fwd: Don't just adapt

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Douglas Grandt

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Aug 28, 2026, 6:36:49 PMAug 28
to Chris Robert, Hugh Hunt, Shaun D Fitzgerald, healthy-planet-action-coalition, Planetary Restoration
Robert,

Regarding these two thoughts:

nowhere does either reflect on the physical inertia of Earth systems and the demands placed on the decision making process by the time from intervention to effect.

and

most people not in Nepal won't join the dots.


Perhaps a simple chart showing the relentless upward trajectory of two proxies for the inertial that the various climate policy and thought leaders apparently are oblivious to may help them connect the dots and realize NOW IS THE TIME to put on the brakes SERIOUSLY!

Everybody here should be able to quickly connect this chart with the imperative.

This is my creation process, guiding and coaching Claude through my vision, if you or anybody is interested.

I think the chart speaks for itself, given we all agree that the three curves must ultimately bend downward as quickly snd steeply as possible. 

Beginning now, every day do something effective. Pull out all the stops!

Cheers,
Doug

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On Aug 28, 2026, at 11:12 AM, Robert Chris <robert...@gmail.com> wrote:



Hi Hugh & Shaun

Just listened to the first two podcasts (for HPAC readers, the links are below).  Very good.  Well done.  I hope they get lots of hits.

As a confirmed catastrophist, the message that struck, me most particularly from Trish, was the optimism bias.  At the very end Hugh asks her how she thinks the technologies will evolve.  She answers:

What gives me confidence is that the people engaging with this issue all have the world's best interests at heart.

She then highlights the significance of the democratisation of this policy space and concludes that 'This is how we will get to a just and equitable decision on this technology'.

If only!  

What neither Dan nor Trish addresses is the question of urgency.  Dan talks eloquently and with great clarity about what he considers plausible with regard to international governance and collaboration and the challenges and limitations constrain progress.  But nowhere does either reflect on the physical inertia of Earth systems and the demands placed on the decision making process by the time from intervention to effect.  If it takes m years to make the decision to research in earnest, n years to do the research and take the intervention to TRL9 or 10, and p years for the intervention to be deployed at sufficient scale, and q years for the Earth system effects to emerge, what is the climate system doing in m+n+p+q years?

It seems to me that everyone is too focussed on the practicalities of taking the next step and they've lost sight of the big picture.  That is not how to respond effectively to an emergency.  Indeed, that mindset is tantamount to saying 'Emergency, what emergency?'

Until folk grasp that global warming IS ALREADY an emergency, the responses will continue to be well-meaning and insufficient.  Having the world's best interests at heart is sweet, but pathetically inadequate.  There's already literature that addresses the (in)ability of climate interventions to stop tipping events that are already in train, even if theoretically still reversible.  The idea that we'll wake up and act when the evidence of harm is inescapably realised all around us, is to completely ignore the limitations of human agency.

Today's catastrophic glacier collapse in Nepal is a perfect illustration.  It's a perfect illustration not because it was a surprise, but because most people not in Nepal won't join the dots.  They won't get that today Nepal, tomorrow wherever they are.   What makes catastrophes a surprise is not that they happen, but that happen on your doorstep  when you're looking the other way.

Another great illustration of this problem is the IPCC Special Report on 1.5oC that I've just been rereading.  I hadn't previously realised how useless it was as guidance for policymakers.  I lost count of the number of times it remarks, in different contexts, how things would be worse at 2oC than at 1.5oC.  That's blindingly obvious and hardly needs saying.  But whether 1.5oC is 'safe' and 2oC isn't, is simply not addressed.  There is the burning embers chart.  But this would be challenging for most to understand because in the interests of scientific 'accuracy' it has been complexified, such that a lay reader would be most unlikely to extract an answer to the simple question 'What level of warming would be OK?'.  It is also interesting to see how the burning embers chart was changed for AR6, just a couple of years later.  The red and purple areas now begin at lower temperature thresholds.  That is consistent with the long term trend in things being worse than previously thought.  Where might they begin when they reappear in AR7?

It might be worthwhile finding a credible speaker to address these questions in a future podcast.

Regards

Robert




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Hello Robert,


"We're a very adaptable species. That's why we're in this mess."


That’s a quote from Dr Trish Lavery in our first podcast episode, recorded at the beginning of what became a long, hot, deadly summer. As wildfires raged, conversations here turned to air conditioning, closing windows, and new prime ministers - often without any mention of climate change.


“A few decades ago,” she continued, “when I started out in environmental policy, if you had told me that we’d get to a situation where our insurance premiums are doubling and doubling again on our house because of extreme climate events, that we’re experiencing at least tens of thousands of deaths due to heat every year… I would have said as a naive policymaker, well, at that stage, we’ll do something about it. We’ll pull up our socks and really get stuck into mitigation.”


Can we help make that happen before it really is too late?

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We know climate repair (or interventions, or geoengineering, or its myriad other names…) can be confusing, and that conversations can feel limited to the big debates. We wanted to create a place to chat with leading experts visiting us in Cambridge over the summer.


The goal: that we and our listeners can learn from them about climate repair - the science, the governance, the history, and more.


During a hot July, we recorded a limited series in-person in our city. These aren’t video calls with big names (though those are valuable) - these are conversations after lunch or over coffee between experts in different parts of the field. And you’re invited.


Listen to the first two episodes out now!

Trish and Hugh recording podcast
 

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New papers out this month:

Maps showing change in near-surface temperature due to CCT

Maps showing the distribution of the cooling in the four models. The hatching represents where the changes aren’t statistically significant. From paper by William McFarlane Smith.

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A Cambridge Engineering student has developed a drone to fly above clouds and measure droplets with a camera.


Luca Lin, who graduated this summer from the Department of Engineering, built the drone and camera system as his fourth-year project with the Centre for Climate Repair. The Centre is researching marine cloud brightening, a proposed climate intervention that would help low-lying marine clouds reflect more sunlight. The idea is to spray seawater droplets of a particular size, as smaller droplets scatter more light back into space.


The approach is being tested in models and small-scale trials, but Luca’s project addresses a fundamental problem: how do you check, in the field, whether cloud droplets have actually got smaller?


Flying the drone in first-person view, Luca wears goggles fed by a live video transmission from two bug-like antennas mounted on the aircraft. Through them, he looks for a specific optical effect known as the “cloudbow” - a faint, rainbow-like ring produced by light scattering. The diameter of the ring corresponds to the size of the droplets producing it; a wider ring means larger droplets, while a tighter one means smaller droplets.

Luca holding the drone

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