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May 10, 2022, 5:32:14 PM5/10/22
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The risk analysis in this C2G2 blog is far too negative and could be balanced by improved discussion of the benefits of SRM.

 

It is not enough just to summarise SRM benefits as “lessening the near-term damages of climate change and lowering the chances of crossing catastrophic climate tipping points.”  A more balanced approach would expand this to mention that SRM is the only method available to mitigate extreme weather, biodiversity loss, temperature rise and sea level rise in this decade. 

 

To not implement SRM means the world chooses to do precisely nothing about these immensely damaging current effects of climate change.  That would be a repugnant moral decision.

 

The assertion that SRM creates conflict risk can be challenged by the observation that SRM should be a primary force for peace and security through international cooperation to mitigate direct effects of warming.

 

My view is that Marine Cloud Brightening in the Southern Ocean would be the most simple, effective, cheap, safe and feasible way to start cooling the planet, with benefits far outstripping risks.  These benefits include creation of arrangements for international cooperation that could subsequently be used to refreeze the Arctic and examine use of iron and sulphur for cooling.  MCB in the Southern Ocean would protect sea ice and enhance albedo, protecting biodiversity. It would mitigate the major risk that catastrophic loss of Antarctic ice shelves could cause accelerated loss of glaciers and sea level rise.  MCB would also cool the waters in ocean currents, reducing the drivers of extreme weather in temperate latitudes.

 

The blog authors should note the comment in this May 9 article in The Hill: “Sunlight reflection … offers a technologically plausible, potentially rapid and relatively cheap way to slow or even reverse global warming and its attendant hazards, buying time for more ambitious mitigation efforts to take hold. It could be remarkably cost-effective: models suggest that SAI could cost as little as $10 billion per year, a minute fraction of the estimated $275 trillion price tag for decarbonizing the global economy by 2050.”

 

Lastly, there is political absurdity in the blog statement “The sooner and greater we make GHG emissions reductions, the less need there may be for SRM, thereby likely reducing overall risk exposure.”  The reality is that decarbonising is far too small, slow, expensive and contested to be the primary climate change strategy.  The risk that major powers are lying about their desire to cut emissions, or that sincere desires will prove politically impossible to achieve, totally outweighs the speculative risks that critics see in SRM.  Cutting emissions can only be a marginal factor in a return to a stable climate, able to address less than 5% of radiative forcing.  The main work has to come from CDR, addressing committed warming from past emissions. While CDR ramps up, SRM should be implemented immediately to brighten the planet and mitigate the massive risks of climate change.

 

Robert Tulip

 

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Would solar radiation modification increase or decrease overall risk?

 

Guest post by Tyler Felgenhauer, Govindasamy Bala, Mark Borsuk, Matthew Brune, Inés Camilloni, Jonathan Wiener, and Jianhua Xu 

 

A key consideration in deciding whether to pursue solar radiation modification (SRM) to offset global warming should be a comparison of the extent of climate risk that the technology is able to reduce against the severity of any countervailing risks that it may engender.

SRM as a potential risk reduction strategy  

It may not be widely appreciated that even if humanity were to achieve significant reductions in greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions atmospheric concentrations would continue to rise. Only net-zero emissions (NZE) would flatten GHG concentration trajectories. Even after NZE were to be achieved, however, a changed climate would persist for decades to centuries because of the long lifetime of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Thus, in addition to aggressive emissions reductions, carbon dioxide removal (CDR) will need to be a key piece of a broader response portfolio intended to bring down global mean surface temperature. Further, adaptation will be necessary to mitigate damages from residual warming. Some climate scientists have suggested that it may also be worth considering some form of solar radiation modification (SRM) as a means for reducing some climate risks while societies pursue these other measures.  Many analyses of GHG emissions reductions, CDR, and SRM tend to focus on their effects on global temperature, but a broader “risk-risk analysis” can help to identify and assess a wider array of relevant risks. 

What is SRM? 

SRM refers to a range of large-scale approaches that increase the amount of sunlight that is reflected back to space. For example, a method called stratospheric aerosol injection (SAI) would involve the intentional release of highly reflective fine particles, such as sulfate aerosols, into the stratosphere. The idea is that the resulting reduction in solar radiation reaching the Earth’s surface would offset some or all of the warming caused by GHG concentrations. Thus, rather than addressing the root cause of climate change by attempting to slow or reverse GHG accumulation in the atmosphere, SRM is intentional anthropogenic climate change of another form. Once the necessary technology and infrastructure are developed, SAI in particular could be a fairly inexpensive means of cooling the Earth relatively quickly and at a global scale. (Other proposed SRM options include brightening of low-level marine clouds through injection of sea-salt aerosols, increasing the reflectivity of the Earth’s surface through various means, or even placing mirrors in space.) SAI would not completely offset climate change in all regions and all seasons and would need to be deployed continuously, as its effects are only temporary. The approach may also be risky because of the potential for unexpected interactions with the climate and the possible introduction of new biophysical and societal risks. Decisions regarding the possible development or deployment of SAI or other forms of SRM may thus come down to the question of whether these approaches increase or decrease overall risk, and for whom. 

Risk vs. risk 

Our research team recently presented an analytical framework for comparing the climate change risks in a future world without SAI against the aggregate of residual and newly generated risks in a future world that includes SAI as part of a portfolio of climate risk mitigation approaches. Such a framework was explicitly called for by the recent U.S. National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine report, “Reflecting Sunlight: Recommendations for Solar Geoengineering and Research Governance.” The framework’s further development and use would enable more comprehensive evaluation and enactment of various possible climate change management strategies. By identifying and comparing the extent to which these strategies impact climate as the target risk, introduce novel countervailing risks of their own, and potentially generate other co-benefits, the risk-risk framework can aid in policy deliberation and minimize the heuristics and biases that can cloud sound decision making. 

Our implementation of the risk-risk framework demonstrated the value of this approach for assessing SRM, and laid the groundwork for more detailed further analyses; still, we offered the following preliminary findings: 

·       As a supplement to GHG emissions reductions, CDR, and adaptation, SRM has the potential to yield large direct benefits to humans and natural ecosystems by lessening the near-term damages of climate change and lowering the chances of crossing catastrophic climate tipping points. 

·       SRM could pose countervailing risks to biophysical systems, including changes in stratospheric ozone and surface UV radiation, acid rain, and unintended changes in temperature and precipitation patterns. The extent of these risks could be controlled to some degree by appropriate design and governance of implementation. 

·       SRM may also pose countervailing risks to societal systems, including the risk of international conflict, the risk of rapid climate change resulting from unplanned sudden termination, and the risk of delaying or discouraging GHG emissions mitigation. Here too, the extent of these risks would depend on the design and governance of implementation. 

·       SRM could provide co-benefits, including an increase in diffuse sunlight, possibly benefitting some crops and ecosystems, and slightly reduced tropospheric ozone in the mid and high latitudes. However, these effects are likely to be small, uncertain, and unlikely to play a significant role in risk-risk tradeoffs. 

·       More extensive use of SRM may yield greater reductions in many temperature-related climate risks but is also likely to increase the level of countervailing risks. The sooner and greater we make GHG emissions reductions, the less need there may be for SRM, thereby likely reducing overall risk exposure (subject to any countervailing risks of emission reduction).  

·       Risk-risk analysis can help focus climate change risk management on broader societal objectives, rather than on temperature goals alone. This can be important, as many climate impacts do not scale directly with temperature. 

·       Existing international governance aimed at addressing climate change and its impacts appears to be inadequately designed for addressing SRM and its distinctive characteristics. Governance of SRM may need to restrain the imposition of global risks through hasty or unwise unilateral action, which is a different challenge than mobilizing collective action to reduce GHG emissions. Thus, it may be necessary to draw on lessons from a wider array of international agreements and institutions. 

The specific benefits and risks of SRM implementation would depend on a number of other decisions, including the particular objectives being pursued, the emission pathway and adaptation plans being followed, and the governance framework in place. Conceptually, the emissions pathway and anticipated adaptive capacity would determine the level of residual climate risk that might be addressed by SRM. Decisions and governance on SRM should then seek to simultaneously minimize the combination of these climate risks and the climate and countervailing risks posed by SRM. To make these tradeoffs explicit across a range of policy portfolios, in our report we consider three specific climate risk management scenarios with different relative contributions of mitigation and SRM. The specific response patterns of climate and countervailing risks to varying levels of SRM are not currently well known and are likely to depend on the particular technology, deployment strategy, and governance mechanisms employed. Determining these patterns of risk response to SRM levels should be a research topic of high priority. 

Authors

Tyler Felgenhauer is Director of Climate Research at the Duke Center on Risk, Duke University.

Govindasamy Bala is Professor at the Centre for Atmospheric and Oceanic Sciences, Indian Institute of Science.

Mark Borsuk is Professor of Civil and Environmental Engineering, Pratt School of Engineering, and Co-Director of the Duke Center on Risk, Duke University.

Matthew Brune is a Research Fellow at the Duke Center on Risk, at Duke University.

Inés Camilloni is Profesor at Universidad de Buenos Aires, Facultad de Ciencias Exactas y Naturales, Departamento de Ciencias de la Atmósfera y los Océanos and CONICET – Universidad de Buenos Aires. Centro de Investigaciones del Mar y la Atmósfera.

Jonathan B. Wiener is the Perkins Professor of Law and Professor of Environmental Policy and Public Policy, at the Law School, Nicholas School, and Sanford School, and Co-Director of the Duke Center on Risk, at Duke University.

XU Jianhua is Associate Professor in the Department of Environmental Management, College of Environmental Sciences and Engineering and Institute for Global Health and Development at Peking University.

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John Nissen

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May 18, 2022, 4:51:33 PM5/18/22
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Hi Robert,

Thanks for an excellent piece.  We get lots of warnings from the UK Met Office and WMO about records being broken, but they don't talk about trends, except, surprisingly, on Arctic Amplification [1].  Somehow we have to get the authorities to sit up and take note that:
  • the climate crisis is upon us now, with escalating costs worldwide in damage, human suffering and economic woes;
  • climate change and sea level rise are accelerating due mainly to rapid Arctic warming;
  • tipping points towards catastrophic climate change and sea level rise could become critical within this decade;
  • net zero will come far too late for any useful cooling effect, either globally or in the Arctic;
  • SRM has the capability to halt climate change and sea level rise this decade by both cooling the Arctic and cooling more globally;
  • the benefits of SRM, including avoiding tipping points, totally outweigh the speculative risks from SRM deployment, given some governance to avoid misuse.

I would add the Arctic and SLR to your conclusion:

SRM should be implemented immediately to cool the Arctic and then to cool more generally this decade, thereby mitigating the massive risks of climate change and sea level rise.

Cheers, John

P.S. Please pass on to the Geo list since my emails to them bounce.

[1] public.wmo.int /en/media/press-release/wmo-update-5050-chance-of-global-temperature-temporarily-reaching-15%C2%B0c-threshold


Among the bullet points is this:

  • The Arctic temperature anomaly, compared to the 1991-2020 average, is predicted to be more than three times as large as the global mean anomaly when averaged over the next five northern hemisphere extended winters.

 


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Robert Tulip

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May 18, 2022, 8:56:25 PM5/18/22
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A friend sent me the following reply to my comments on the risk analysis in this C2G2 blog.

Robert Tulip

 

 

Hi Robert,

Thanks for an excellent piece.  We get lots of warnings from the UK Met Office and WMO about records being broken, but they don't talk about trends, except, surprisingly, on Arctic Amplification [1].  Somehow we have to get the authorities to sit up and take note that:

  • the climate crisis is upon us now, with escalating costs worldwide in damage, human suffering and economic woes;
  • climate change and sea level rise are accelerating due mainly to rapid Arctic warming;
  • tipping points towards catastrophic climate change and sea level rise could become critical within this decade;
  • net zero will come far too late for any useful cooling effect, either globally or in the Arctic;
  • SRM has the capability to halt climate change and sea level rise this decade by both cooling the Arctic and cooling more globally;
  • the benefits of SRM, including avoiding tipping points, totally outweigh the speculative risks from SRM deployment, given some governance to avoid misuse.

I would add the Arctic and SLR to your conclusion:

SRM should be implemented immediately to cool the Arctic and then to cool more generally this decade, thereby mitigating the massive risks of climate change and sea level rise.

Among the bullet points is this:

  • The Arctic temperature anomaly, compared to the 1991-2020 average, is predicted to be more than three times as large as the global mean anomaly when averaged over the next five northern hemisphere extended winters.

 

On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 10:32 PM <rob...@rtulip.net> wrote:

My comment on a C2G2 blog

From: Robert Tulip <rtuli...@yahoo.com.au>
Sent: Wednesday, 11 May 2022 7:26 AM
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Subject: RE: [geo] Would solar radiation modification increase or decrease overall risk?

The risk analysis in this C2G2 blog is far too negative and could be balanced by improved discussion of the benefits of SRM.  

It is not enough just to summarise SRM benefits as “lessening the near-term damages of climate change and lowering the chances of crossing catastrophic climate tipping points.”  A more balanced approach would expand this to mention that SRM is the only method available to mitigate extreme weather, biodiversity loss, temperature rise and sea level rise in this decade. 

To not implement SRM means the world chooses to do precisely nothing about these immensely damaging current effects of climate change.  That would be a repugnant moral decision.

The assertion that SRM creates a risk of conflict can be challenged by the observation that SRM should be a primary force for peace and security through international cooperation to mitigate direct effects of warming.

John Nissen

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May 19, 2022, 11:42:17 AM5/19/22
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Hi all,


I realise that there needs to be a simple explanation given of how we have been misled. Emissions reduction, however drastic, is no solution to climate change or sea level rise.  The emergency demands drastic and immediate intervention to cool the Arctic.


CO2 lifetime

Governments and the public are told that global warming is due to an excess of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, which is true.  This excess needs to be reduced.  But they are not told that, due to CO2 having a long lifetime in the atmosphere, CO2 emissions reduction has a limited effect on the excess and CO2 removal is required at scale.

 

SO2 emissions

Furthermore, global warming has been up to 50% offset by SO2 emissions from consuming fossil fuels; therefore severe emissions reduction is liable to boost global warming, as Jim Hansen has pointed out.  Therefore some global cooling intervention is required along with emissions reduction and large-scale CO2 removal.

 

Growing extremes of weather and climate

Governments and the public are also told that climate change is due to global warming; but this is only partially true.  The observed acceleration of climate change over the past 30-40 years comes from a combination of global warming and Arctic warming.  Global warming gradually increases global temperatures and air humidity.   This temperature increase is amplified in the Arctic through a feedback mechanism involving the sea ice: since 1980 the Arctic temperature has risen three times faster than the average global temperature.  Rapid Arctic warming disrupts jet stream behaviour, increasing the tendency for the jet stream to get stuck in blocking patterns.   Periods of extreme heat are produced by a stuck jet stream building up the heat produced by global warming.  Similarly extreme flooding is produced by a build-up of rainfall from the increased humidity produced by global warming.  As these extremes become more and more common, it amounts to abrupt climate change.  Some places will become uninhabitable: for example, the heat extremes seen in India this year will inevitably get more frequent and more intense over the coming years.  There is a huge urgency to cool the Arctic, requiring the massive cooling intervention which is only possible through cloud cooling methods: brightening marine clouds and stratospheric injection of SO2.  Governments and the public are totally ignorant of the urgent necessity for SRM-type intervention to cool the Arctic.

 

Acceleration of sea level rise

Furthermore governments and the public are told that sea level rise is due to global warming, but this also is only partially true.  Sea level rise is due to a combination of ocean expansion and loss of ice from glaciers and ice sheets.  We know that ocean expansion could give a metre of sea level rise this century, but we are not told that ice mass loss from the Arctic is accelerating and has overtaken ocean expansion as a contributor to sea level rise.  The Arctic has over 7 metres of sea level rise locked away in ice, and the Greenland Ice Sheet is showing warning signs of the kind of partial disintegration which could cause a metre of sea level rise over a period of years rather than decades.  Thus there is added urgency to cool the Arctic by a massive cooling intervention.  Governments and the public are totally ignorant of this further urgent necessity to cool the Arctic.

 

Balance of risks

Governments and the public are told that cooling interventions such as those required to cool the Arctic are extremely risky.  But the risks have been vastly exaggerated whereas every year’s delay to applying these interventions significantly increases the risks of catastrophic climate change and sea level rise within the next few decades.

 

Cheers, John

 

John Nissen

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May 20, 2022, 6:16:51 PM5/20/22
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Hi Peter,

What I am arguing for is a massive Manhattan-style project for cooling the Arctic to avoid Armageddon from climate change and sea level rise.  Ideally we need the Arctic refrozen back to its 1980 state before sea ice retreat started.

But in parallel with this, we need (i) emissions reduction along with enough CDR to bring the CO2 level down to below ~360 ppm, and (ii) enough global cooling to bring the global mean temperature down to below ~0.5C.  Cooling will protect biodiversity and be good for humanity, especially the people who have been suffering most from climate change.  I think I may disagree with you here; but research suggests that SRM using aerosols, sensibly applied, would be remarkably safe and beneficial on all counts.

With these two programs, the climate crisis can be defused and the planet returned to a safe, sustainable and biodiverse state.

Cheers, John


On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 10:41 PM PR CARTER <peterc...@shaw.ca> wrote:
Hi John 

Agreed To avoid planet runaway catastrophe from multiple inter-reinforcing large source Arctic amplifying feedbacks  the Arctic has to be cooled 

Agreed CO2 has to removed at massive scale 

But  Just reducing CO2 emissions (as is generally said) because of CO2 long life- will do worse then nothing. It will continue to increase cumulative CO2 and atmospheric CO2 - so further accelerating global heating and ocean acidification, which will end most of life 

So Zero Carbon Combustion is required - no fossil fuel nor wood pellet burning industries 

For a CO2 extraction program to work our emissions have to be near zero (IPCC 2014 AR5)
If not the CO2 to be extracted will keep increasing and the amount must in any case be minimized to be feasible 

It takes a massive all resources applied Manhattan Project model venture to replace  all fossil fuel energy and develop to apply all known safe CAD methods, and develop NEW CAD technologies 

2021 was 1.12C, but even so many  widespread unprec extremes
When the current La NIna ends and with the next El Nino the global temperature will devastate the southern hemisphere and be disastrous for the NH

Atmospheric CO2 is now 417 ppm

To stabilize (or keep stabilized)  ice sheets, Arctic albedo, planetary carbon, and return to safe ocean heat content and pH, atmospheric CO2 would need to drop to 300ppm  at least 

It seems clear by now that governments will only keep the world dependent on fossil fuel energy (80% of world energy share at least)

That means world agriculture will collapse

So the strategy of the governments and world economy is to rely on planet cooling to keep agriculture going and to continue burning fossil fuels. Rather than buy time this ends time.

That is clearly a strategy for biosphere collapse and must be exposed for any chance of our survival

Best regards 

Peter C





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