PRAG meeting, Monday 22nd May, 9 pm UK time

[John Nissen]

Hi everyone,

 

Our regular fortnightly PRAG meeting is next Monday, at 9 pm UK time as usual.  Robert Tulip is unable to host the meeting on zoom, and Doug Grandt has kindly offered to do so.  He will send us the link in due course.

 

I normally suggest an agenda before the meeting, and rarely get suggestions for alterations or additions.  I try to suggest an agenda which will move the actions forward, noting that PRAG is an action group wanting to get our message across to the powers that be!  Doug and I are concerned about deviations from the agenda at recent meetings which have used up a lot of time.  So we will start the meeting by agreeing on an agenda and then try and stick to it, as Clive Elsworth does so successfully with the NOAC meetings.  We will make a list of actions, where there has been a commitment taken on by somebody.

 

At the last meeting I committed to completing the “Letter to the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists”.  I sent a draft version 2 to you recently and intend to finish a version 3 today, taking into account comments received.  If there are no objections, we can make the letter an open letter and an official PRAG output.  I propose that one of the items on the agenda is obtaining signatures for the letter, hopefully without significant adjustments to the letter.  Help with getting the letter accepted for publication in The Bulletin will be gratefully received.  There is a website for opinion pieces and a paywall-protected journal for formal submissions with references, etc.; I assume we would be aiming for the former.

 

By the way, the following PRAG meeting, which would fall on Monday 5^th June, is cancelled due to the Workshop meeting in Cambridge on 6^th June when there is an opportunity to present PRAG’s findings, on the climate situation and the urgent need for SRM, to a knowledgeable audience.  This would set the scene for presentations on various SRM techniques.  Hopefully people who cannot attend in person will be able to attend via zoom or other system.

 

Cheers, John

Chair of PRAG

[Douglas Grandt]

Meeting Link for Planetary Restoration Action Group

https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505455558

Meeting ID: 550 545 5558

 

Monday  9:00 pm UK  

               1:00 pm PDT California

               1:00 pm CDT Illinois

               4:00 pm EDT East Coast

Tuesday 6:00 am AEDT Australia 

[John Nissen]

Hi everyone,

I've posted the latest version of the letter to the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists on the eponymous thread, together with the link to the PRAG meeting, which starts in a quarter of an hour.

Cheers, John

[Douglas Grandt]

Greetings,

Here is the link to yesterday’s PRAG zoom meeting (accessible only by those who have been given the URL)  https://youtu.be/hlEc599ZDXs

Doug Grandt

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[Douglas Grandt]

Today’s PRAG zoom meeting recording is available here (unlisted … only those with the URL may view) 

Doug Grandt

[John Nissen]

Hi everyone,

Our first agenda item was about how PRAG came about.  PRAG, formerly meaning polar restoration action group, was formed under HCA/F4CC by Peter Fiekowsky for the purposes of the Rome meeting he organised.  The convenor/leader was Leslie Field, and I was sub-convenor/co-leader.  Members included Peter Wadhams and Stephen Salter.  When polar restoration was to be excluded from the HCA mission, it was agreed I could form a group under my own chairmanship, retaining the PRAG monika but standing for planetary restoration action group.  One of our first outputs was a non-judgemental review of techniques for refreezing the Arctic.

The main item on the agenda was the letter to the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists.  There had been no objections to the latest version, version 4 (see attached) so it has become an official PRAG output.  We agreed to seek signatures from known experts.  I had already been assured of a signature from Peter Wadhams, and Stephen agreed to add his. I will be sending this version (with mark-up removed) to various other eminent people we know for a personal response.  We'd welcome signatures from everyone in our PRAG, HPAC and NOAC groups, and from other people you might know.

A key point in the letter is the support of deploying MCB, SAI and other cooling techniques which could be deployed in parallel.  The refreezing of the Arctic is too important to rely on one single method.  We need to pull out all the stops, to get deployment initiated as soon as possible.  Some deployment research and modelling is therefore extremely urgent so that deployment can be as safe and effective as possible.  See section "Research on steroids"!

Cheers, John