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Ron Baiman

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Jun 27, 2024, 3:23:48 PMJun 27
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Thanks Barbara!  Maybe it's worth a try!
Best,
Ron

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From: Barbara Sneath <bjsn...@meer.org>
Date: Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 8:32 PM
Subject: Who we are - International Science Council
To: Ron Baiman <rpba...@gmail.com>


Hi Ron,

This organization might be worth contacting with regard to the DCC paper and IMO paper.  The organization is in favor of scientists’ climate activism.

Best wishes,
Barbara 

Who we are - International Science Council


https://council.science/about-us/


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Michael MacCracken

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Jul 15, 2024, 9:58:36 AMJul 15
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Dear Ron and Barbara--Sorry to be late on this one. International science is organized on two tracks, one (representing the views of governments) is up (or maybe down)  through the United Nations, so to the World Meteorological Organization (WMO) [of which NOAA is the US agency member], UNESCO, World Health Organization, UN Commission on Sustainable Development, etc. These entities can jointly sponsor entities, one being the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change,. And they are hosts to treaties on various topics (such as trade, money, development banks, and so on).

The other is up through the scientific community, with the countries represented by their National Academies of Sciences (well, by disciplinary committees that they organize that represent the country to each of the international disciplinary organizations). The International Council of Science (formerly, the International Council of Scientific Unions, or ICSU, which I think is still used as the acronym for the International Scientific Council) is at the peak of all of this on the scientific side. So, it has purview over a few dozen entities, including the International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics (IUGG) which has 8 subsidiary Associations, one being the International Association of Meteorology and Atmospheric Sciences (IAMAS) of which I was president from 2003-2007 [other of their associations cover hydrology, the cryosphere, aeronomy, etc.] and IAMAS has a number of commissions, one of which is the International Climate Commission (ICC) of which I was president of for a while way back starting in the 1990s. Major efforts of all these entities is convening meetings and symposia that bring international scientists together--and these entities do a lot of things jointly. Some of these entities also set scientific standards for various things, organize international projects, etc. and most pass resolutions about this or that situation--and I was involved in some of the iUGG and IAMAS resolutions on climate change.

And then there are entities that bridge across the two major streams, one being the Joint Scientific Committee that is responsible for leading the World Climate Program, which is jointly sponsored by WMO and ICSU, etc. and I think the IPCC has such joint sponsorship.

So, the scientific side, while being sponsored by national academies of science, is intended to speak truth about the science to governments independent of national views, and do so to the first side mentioned above (which may at times call for such views). It is the government side that has the money (including the piddling amount they spend to sponsor national academies that sponsor the scientific side) and the power to take action, so it is the side that sets up global observations networks.

In addition to these two formal sides (as one might call them), there are the non-governmental organizations (NGOs) of all sorts of types that speak out to whomever they want to and act as they think best, generally saying that they are representing the public (this is where our entities work to be effective). One of the more formal of such entities is the Climate Overshoot Commission, that I think is sort of independently sponsored--and I think would be a group to work through.

And then too are the corporate interests speaking out in their interests through professional societies and affiliations.

And then there is the media, some corporate influenced, some not, movies, social media, etc. all putting out information, and often not really clarifying from what base/footing/perspective the view is coming, so whether it is really authoritative or not, etc.

It all sort of makes sense, but is quite a complex system. Figuring out where best to push to get action is a real challenge. The entities pass resolutions and send letters to communicate among themselves calling for action, but can be rather ponderous, especially as the entities all tend to want to come to consensus among their members, whether nations, scientists, or others, and do try to be cognizant of the situations in the entities they contact. Given all of this, things do work pretty well in many sectors--meteorological measurements are taken in the same way around the world, public health practices are similar around the world, etc., etc.

So,  with respect to thinking of writing the International Science Council, it is not just some independent entity--there is a whole structure to consider if you are thinking of gaining attention and making a difference.

Best, Mike MacCracken

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Barbara Sneath

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Jul 15, 2024, 3:18:14 PMJul 15
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Dear Mike,

Many thanks for explaining the complexities of how the real world functions beyond the ivory tower of the academic scientific community.  I will share this information with the MEER team, and save it for future reference.  

Attempting to speak science to power regarding the actions necessary for a livable future, which is one of MEER’s aims, is indeed challenging.  Ye has attended every Cop from Cop26 onwards, spoken at several high-profile conferences and been interviewed by a few popular podcasters.  In addition, MEER has received good publicity from a few TV pieces and articles by mainstream media.  

I’m excited that HPAC is now a fiscally sponsored nonprofit organization and has a team working on educating people and institutions regarding the need to cool, reduce and remove to ensure a livable future.

Onwards and upwards,

Barbara 
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MEER

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