I would like to know
Henk Senster
government is.
Here in the Netherlands we wonder why Poland din't opt to become a state of
the USA instead of a member of the EU.
Groeten,
Henk
Obserwator z ramienia
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Is your middle name Ibrahim?
Walker
rAzor
them. :-)
pozdr.rAzor
-----------------------------------------
I always look on the bright side of life.
Fiu, fiu, ...fiu,fiu,fiu,fiu,fiu,fiuu...
Henk Senster
"xlmcn" <xl...@ctoue.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> Henk Senster wrote:
> > What the polish citizens attitude towards the foreign policy of their
> > government is.
> > Here in the Netherlands we wonder
>
> Do _you_ represent the Netherlands or just yourself?
Of course not everyone shares my opinion. Our criminals for instance who
sell the stolen cars to polish resellers think a little different I suppose.
> > why Poland din't opt to become a state of
> > the USA instead of a member of the EU.
>
> Why didn't you?
Why should we? We are one of the richest countries of the world and we have,
with Belgium and Germany, nice civilised neighbours.
Henk Senster
"Obserwator z ramienia" <obsry...@hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Why do you ask? I use my real name as most of us here in the Netherland do.
But what's yours? Abraham?
> Walker
>
>
E-zop
Użytkownik "rAzor" <5...@wp.pl> napisał w wiadomości
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> Dnia 03-02-09 05:44, Użytkownik Obserwator z ramienia napisał:
> > "Henk Senster" <sen...@wxs.nl> wrote in message
> > news:b249in$8tr$1...@reader08.wxs.nl...
> >
> >>What the polish citizens attitude towards the foreign policy of their
> >>government is.
> >>Here in the Netherlands we wonder why Poland din't opt to become a state
> >
> > of
> >
> >>the USA instead of a member of the EU.
> >>
> >>Groeten,
> >>Henk
> >
> >
> > Is your middle name Ibrahim?
> >
> > Walker
> >
> >
> I mean, that guy's lookin' for young gays to marry or children to adopt
> them. :-)
>
...or euthanasia medicine consumer.
>
> pozdr.rAzor
> -----------------------------------------
> I always look on the bright side of life.
> Fiu, fiu, ...fiu,fiu,fiu,fiu,fiu,fiuu...
>
E-zop
Henk Senster
"rAzor" <5...@wp.pl> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> Dnia 03-02-09 05:44, Użytkownik Obserwator z ramienia napisał:
> > "Henk Senster" <sen...@wxs.nl> wrote in message
> > news:b249in$8tr$1...@reader08.wxs.nl...
> >
> >>What the polish citizens attitude towards the foreign policy of their
> >>government is.
> >>Here in the Netherlands we wonder why Poland din't opt to become a state
> >
> > of
> >
> >>the USA instead of a member of the EU.
> >>
> >>Groeten,
> >>Henk
> >
> >
> > Is your middle name Ibrahim?
> >
> > Walker
> >
> >
> I mean, that guy's lookin' for young gays to marry or children to adopt
> them. :-)
Obviously the old man in the Vatican is not the only Polish citizen with a
dementing disorder.
Nikodem
Użytkownik "Henk Senster" <sen...@wxs.nl> napisał w wiadomości
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> What the polish citizens attitude towards the foreign policy of their
> government is.
Here we have an old saying: Where are 2 polish people, there are 3 opinions.
This should satisfact you I guess.
> Here in the Netherlands we wonder why Poland din't opt to become a state
of
> the USA instead of a member of the EU.
Well, it's quite simple. As you now, Poland is in the Europe. And now: USA -
Unites States of America; EU - European Union.
>
> Groeten,
> Henk
>
--
Pozdrawiam;
Nikodem
www.osiol.com
PS. Sorry for my bad English.
Obserwator z ramienia
> Why do you ask?
And why do you ask stupid, insulting and inflammatory questions, dickhead?
Why don't you go and whack yourself over your gayish Dutch pile of hay?
Or better yet, wait until we get there and do it for you.
> I use my real name as most of us here in the Netherland do.
Splendid.
It's going to make the job of tracing you really easy :))
> But what's yours? Abraham?
Jawohl, mein general. Sieg Heil!
Walker
xlmcn
> "xlmcn" <xl...@ctoue.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:3E45B258...@ctoue.com...
>
>>Henk Senster wrote:
>>
>>>What the polish citizens attitude towards the foreign policy of their
>>>government is.
>>>Here in the Netherlands we wonder
>>
>>"We"?
>>Do _you_ represent the Netherlands or just yourself?
>
>
> Of course not everyone shares my opinion.
Why don't you just have some dope, maybe you will find
more people sharing your enlightened opinions then?
> Our criminals for instance who
> sell the stolen cars to polish resellers think a little different I suppose
Uhuh, your crimnals steel cars all over Europe and sell them to Polish resellers?
Do you enjoy buying and driving them? Is it fun?
And what is the opinion of your fascists (no doubt "civilized" fascists)
on this subject? Some 'Drang nach Osten', maybe?
>>>why Poland din't opt to become a state of
>>>the USA instead of a member of the EU.
>>
>>Why didn't you?
>
>
> Why should we?
You should know, not we.
> We are one of the richest countries of the world and we have,
> with Belgium and Germany, nice civilised neighbours.
OK. This is now what I asked you about.
I asked you not how civilized your neighbours
are but why you didn't opt out of EU.
You feel like being a spokesman not only for all
the Netherlands but for Belgium and Germany as well?
If you take a look at a map you will certainly notice
that Poland has one big neighbor in common with you.
If you, having such a civilized neighbor, don't see any
need of opting out of EU why should Poland be any less
attached to this neighbor?
Have a nice joint and don't buy cars stolen
by your criminals. ;)
Panslavista
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xlmcn
>>Here in the Netherlands we wonder why Poland din't opt to become a state
>
> of
>
>>the USA instead of a member of the EU.
>
>
> Well, it's quite simple. As you now, Poland is in the Europe. And now: USA -
> Unites States of America; EU - European Union.
>
>
>
> PS. Sorry for my bad English.
>
Don't need to apologize. He would speak double Dutch
so, he would get even with you.
xlmcn
> Dnia 03-02-09 05:44, Użytkownik Obserwator z ramienia napisał:
>
>> "Henk Senster" <sen...@wxs.nl> wrote in message
>> news:b249in$8tr$1...@reader08.wxs.nl...
>>
>>> What the polish citizens attitude towards the foreign policy of their
>>> government is.
>>> Here in the Netherlands we wonder why Poland din't opt to become a state
>>
>>
>> of
>>
>>> the USA instead of a member of the EU.
>>>
>>> Groeten,
>>> Henk
>>
>>
>>
>> Is your middle name Ibrahim?
>>
>> Walker
>>
>>
> I mean, that guy's lookin' for young gays to marry or children to adopt
> them. :-)
Wow, you slander people as well as this Henk guy does! Good European custom!
But, at least, don't bite him (I mean: Not yet).
Obserwator z ramienia
news:b24m1b$ipo$1...@atlantis.news.tpi.pl...
> A tobie Moise??!!
Widzisz ty glupia ukrainska kurwo...
EUnanista opluwa twoja Polske, ja staje w jej obronie, a ty mi sie rzucasz
do gardla :))))
Wielgi patridiota z ciebie znowu wylazl sprzedawczyku. Dzieci juz zes w
pacht oddal... :))
Walker
xlmcn
>
> Obviously the old man in the Vatican is not the only Polish citizen with a
> dementing disorder.
It seems, you're not the only Dutch one.
BTW. What did you do in the Vatican?
Looking for some lost memories?
Panslavista
Holendrzy w Bośni byli? Byli i się zbyli... He..he... Czyszczenie etniczne
przed nami...
xlmcn
> "Panslavista" <pansl...@wp.pl> wrote in message
> news:b24m1b$ipo$1...@atlantis.news.tpi.pl...
>
>
>>A tobie Moise??!!
>
>
> Widzisz ty glupia ukrainska kurwo...
> EUnanista opluwa twoja Polske, ja staje w jej obronie, a ty mi sie rzucasz
> do gardla :))))
Ibrahima obrażałeś, a Panslavista by się za niego dał pokrajać.
Panslavista
news:3E45E690...@ctoue.com...
E..tam, z dwojga złego to Walker jest większym i groźniejszym wrogiem
Polski....
Obserwator z ramienia
> E..tam, z dwojga złego to Walker jest większym i groĽniejszym wrogiem
> Polski....
Dziekuje :)))
Walker
xlmcn
> Użytkownik "xlmcn" <xl...@ctoue.com> napisał w wiadomości
> news:3E45E690...@ctoue.com...
>
>>Obserwator z ramienia wrote:
>>
>>>"Panslavista" <pansl...@wp.pl> wrote in message
>>>news:b24m1b$ipo$1...@atlantis.news.tpi.pl...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>A tobie Moise??!!
>>>
>>>
>>>Widzisz ty glupia ukrainska kurwo...
>>>EUnanista opluwa twoja Polske, ja staje w jej obronie, a ty mi sie
>>
> rzucasz
>
>>>do gardla :))))
>>
>>Ibrahima obrażałeś, a Panslavista by się za niego dał pokrajać.
>
>
> E..tam, z dwojga złego to Walker jest większym i groźniejszym wrogiem
> Polski....
Tak rozumiem, każdy ma _swoje_ zmory i wrogów stosownie
do swojej fantazji też.
Ale ksenofobicznych czubów to Polska ma chyba większy
udział niż by na nią przypadał. Najgorsze jest to,
że dla takich nienawistne jest nie tylko wszystko
co obce gdy są u siebie w kraju.
Gorzej jest gdy taki wyjedzie za granicę
i zabiera swoją ksenofobię ze sobą - bo ma
okazji do jej napadów wścieklizny więcej.
Wtedy spotyka rożnych obcych (czyt. wrogów) co krok
i sam nie wie który z nich gorszy a który lepszy -
"Amerykan", "Meksykan", "Kanadol", "Żółtek", "Czarnuch",
"Makaroniarz", "Żabojad", "Żydek", "Pepik", "Szwab",
"Arabus"?
Wybór ciężki bo duży i nie wiadomo od kogo by zacząć.
wondoł
Użytkownik "Henk Senster" <sen...@wxs.nl> napisał w wiadomości
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| What the polish citizens attitude towards the foreign policy of their
| government is.
What Your point is????
Do You think about Polish support in war against Iraq? Or buying F-16 or what
| Here in the Netherlands we wonder why Poland din't opt to become a state of
| the USA instead of a member of the EU.
Here in Poland we wonder why people from the West are so smart. Maybe You dont
know, but Poland is not The Netherlands and has some different interests. You
should think about it.
xlmcn has right Have a nice joint
--
Wondoł
de...@poczta.onet.pl
GG 2648917
http://www.kuba.wadolowski.prv.pl
Do Evropskej unie, ale nie s holymi zadkami.
ColgatesBilly
On the other hand, here in Poland many a Pole.......
( Thanks God, our country has not been yet littered by all that asian, islamic and african trash
> thus, poor football results
PS.. havind said that...
Our national team doesn`t much remaind of Jamaica raegge foot-club )
...thinks of Holand , as the most screwed-up country on this planet.
( Me myself > and I > even not being a catholic, crave for Sodoma-like God`s response )
Country of gays, junkies, streetwhores and pedophiles.
Talking od evil...
We had in Poland several cases of generous Dutchmen, who set up some "Internet clubs" for the youngsters.
Sadly, our law was very liberal for those degeneRats.
On the second thought, though...
In comparison, the Dutch, using Polish frontmen have bought "FOR SONG"
large part of our western ( and FERTLE ) lands, to spread in the closest future
developement of their chemical food , LOOK like angels....
But, if we, at long last, indeed have O U R ( not JEWISH ) government,
we shall take care also of those CRIMINALS.
( and We shall overcome... you know ;-)
And make no mistake about it !
We`ve already busted one totalitarian (ass), socialist imperium.
In due time, we`ll take care of your ....
Perversely.....
I would be real glad, seeing you ( western folks ) tasting SOON
life, that we have experienced for 50 years.
Working class of Amsterdam... WHAT A TREAT !!!!
´Kolgatezzz
See_you
>> > What the polish citizens attitude towards the foreign policy of their
>> > government is.
>> > Here in the Netherlands we wonder
>> "We"?
>> Do _you_ represent the Netherlands or just yourself?
> Of course not everyone shares my opinion. Our criminals for instance who
> sell the stolen cars to polish resellers think a little different I
> suppose.
You know what, our criminals think the same way what your criminals,
- only "Belgian" is looking for arguments in his criminals.
Personally, I am sorry, but I can't count on Dutch soldiers - who where
"fighting" for peace in Srebrenica, that's the reason why I prefer Americans
- fighting for peace.
>> > why Poland din't opt to become a state of
>> > the USA instead of a member of the EU.
>> Why didn't you?
> Why should we? We are one of the richest countries of the world and we
> have, with Belgium and Germany, nice civilised neighbours.
... and you will have "nice (not)civilized" funeral, if you won't stop
thinking about your own ass.
Slaap lekker - richman.
See_you
Henk Senster
"ColgatesBilly" <klinton...@icqmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> On the other hand, here in Poland many a Pole.......
> ( Thanks God, our country has not been yet littered by all that asian,
islamic and african trash
> > thus, poor football results
> PS.. havind said that...
> Our national team doesn`t much remaind of Jamaica raegge
foot-club )
> ...thinks of Holand , as the most screwed-up country on this planet.
>
> ( Me myself > and I > even not being a catholic, crave for Sodoma-like
God`s response )
>
> Country of gays, junkies, streetwhores and pedophiles.
Though I am, as 95% of the Dutch population is, heterosexual I am proud of
this liberal aspect of our society. Citizens who, in thinking or behaviour,
differ from the majority can live as they want to, as long as they abide to
our fundamental rules. But I agree: it's a very difficult dilemma: to press
homosexuals into the catholic celibate and let them sublimate their sexual
frustations or to let them chose themselves how they want to live.
And yes, we even view junks, alcoholists and streetwhores as human beings
and we agree that a substantial part of our taxes are used to help them to
return to a dignified human living.
Concerning pedophiles: we have the same proportions of pedophiles as every
other country. But most probably an overproportional percentage of so called
businessman who expoit the disposition to pedophilism of people all over the
world. Mostly businessman with two passports: for instance a Dutch one and
an Israelien one.
And you should also know that our criminal scene, including prostitution,
is dominated bij criminals of Eastern Europe, mainly Yugoslavians and the so
called Russian/Israelien maffia. I agree with you that we should treat those
criminals far more hardly. But that's very difficult as you might know.
> Talking od evil...
> We had in Poland several cases of generous Dutchmen, who set up some
"Internet clubs" for the youngsters.
> Sadly, our law was very liberal for those degeneRats.
See above.
> On the second thought, though...
> In comparison, the Dutch, using Polish frontmen have bought "FOR SONG"
> large part of our western ( and FERTLE ) lands, to spread in the closest
future
> developement of their chemical food , LOOK like angels....
I appreciate your feelings towards this kind of imperialism. But be sure
that we here in the Netherlands have the most stringent rules of the world
concerning the use of pesticides.
> But, if we, at long last, indeed have O U R ( not JEWISH ) government,
> we shall take care also of those CRIMINALS.
> ( and We shall overcome... you know ;-)
This is the point of contact with my first posting. You probably know that
this coming war is more about oil and the aspirations of Israel as about
establishing democracy in Irak.
So I supposed a discrepancy between the opinion of Polish citizens and the
behaviour of their government. Like it is for instance in Spain and here in
Holland (with a zionistic foreign minister).
What we see developing itself now is the well-tried zionistic strategy of
'divide and rule': christians and atheists against moslims, Europe against
the US and Europe mutually. So the first thing to do is not letting us
stirring up against each other again.
> And make no mistake about it !
> We`ve already busted one totalitarian (ass), socialist imperium.
> In due time, we`ll take care of your ....
In working harder, being more ingeneous and with our financial help you will
succeed at last.
> Perversely.....
> I would be real glad, seeing you ( western folks ) tasting SOON
> life, that we have experienced for 50 years.
You should blame the right persons for that.
> Working class of Amsterdam... WHAT A TREAT !!!!
??
Groeten,
Henk
> 寐olgatezzz
>
>
>
eWa
|| What the polish citizens attitude towards the
foreign policy of their
|| government is.
The statistics show 51% is against war on Iraq.
|| Here in the Netherlands we wonder why Poland
din't opt to become a
|| state of the USA instead of a member of the EU.
I guess becoming a state of America would do us
hell lot better good and soon afterwards we could
pride ourselves on being this continent's
wealthiest region, not skulking about and begging
for at least half the money /you/ get. If you guys
don't care about new and future member why don't
you just let us be.
Ewa
Henk Senster
"eWa" <ek...@nospam.wp.pl> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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> Henk Senster <sen...@wxs.nl> typed:
> || What the polish citizens attitude towards the
> foreign policy of their
> || government is.
>
> The statistics show 51% is against war on Iraq.
>
> || Here in the Netherlands we wonder why Poland
> din't opt to become a
> || state of the USA instead of a member of the EU.
>
> I guess becoming a state of America would do us
> hell lot better good and soon afterwards we could
> pride ourselves on being this continent's
> wealthiest region,
I would say, try a few years the USA as I did.
> not skulking about and begging
> for at least half the money /you/ get. If you guys
> don't care about new and future member why don't
> you just let us be.
Actually the majority of the EU-population was against. Mainly for financial
reasons. But it was the German Government who did their outmost to win our
votes for your membership. And now we see this german government with a
polish knife in their back.
Groeten,
Henk
> Ewa
>
>
ColgatesBilly
>>> The statistics show 51% is against war on Iraq.
51% - WOW !! .... This rings some bell..... ( same ol` song )
Incidentally ::
who prepared or... doctored them ?
>> Actually the majority of the EU-population was against. Mainly for
>> financial reasons. But it was the German Government who did their
>> outmost to win our votes for your membership. And now we see this
>> german government with a polish knife in their back.
You got it all upside down...
What about cornering 40-million polish market and imposing your
standards, limits and regulations, that are bound to kill off any initiative
sentencing us to the status of cheap labour... ?
Kol
rAzor
You know it's specific polish custom - citizens have always
different opinion than government. Our politics are incredibely
untrustworthy - so, this may be reason, that we are so afraid
of EU accession, cause our politics just want to do that.
Our tradition does not allow us to accept
for example such sociological experiments, like homosexual
marriages, possibility of adoption kids for such liasons,
eutanasia. In ours opinions the EU tolerance and liberality
is takin' too far. We're still remembering giant communist machinery..
But, the gravest apprehension we feel about german domination.
The history has showed us, that we can't believe them.
Israellian maffia? My gosh - and you would try punish them???
In Poland you'd be called the anti-Semit or crazy racist. :-))
--
eWa
|| Henk Senster wrote:
||
||||| The statistics show 51% is against war on
Iraq.
||
|| 51% - WOW !! .... This rings some bell..... (
same ol` song )
|| Incidentally ::
|| who prepared or... doctored them ?
CBOS
|||| Actually the majority of the EU-population
was against. Mainly for
|||| financial reasons.
Strangely the majority of the CE-population is
against. But they've got a reason that's pretty
real. EU-government and state-government-supported
big companies of the EU utterly /use/ the
pre-accession agreements to their own purposes,
buying out what's left of our potential only to
liquidate it afterwards to get themselves a bigger
part of the EU and global markets. But this is
swelling into a bang. It would be really good if
Poland did _not_ access the EU at this moment and
wait until this is all over.
|||| But it was the German Government who did
their
|||| outmost to win our votes for your membership.
It is common opinion, that this german "sympathy"
for us was just a part of the great russo-german
dream to divide Poland between themselves. I don't
know, if it's all true, but I'm quite sure at
least a part of it is.
|||| And now we see this
|||| german government with a polish knife in
their back.
You have to admit, that from the historical point
of view, it's pretty adequate.
SY
Ewa
Henk Senster
"wondoł" <de...@poczta.onet.pl> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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>
>
> Użytkownik "Henk Senster" <sen...@wxs.nl> napisał w wiadomości
> news:b249in$8tr$1...@reader08.wxs.nl...
> | What the polish citizens attitude towards the foreign policy of their
> | government is.
>
> What Your point is????
>
>
> Do You think about Polish support in war against Iraq? Or buying F-16 or
what
Both. Cause at first we saw your governments sliminess with Germany for
getting the EU-milliards. Wich have mainly to be generated by the Germans
(and Dutch, Belgians and Luxemburgians) as the onliest nettopayers of the
EU. Then we saw them spend those milliards for American wartoys. And now we
see these same government attack the Germans from behind.
> | Here in the Netherlands we wonder why Poland din't opt to become a state
of
> | the USA instead of a member of the EU.
> Here in Poland we wonder why people from the West are so smart. Maybe You
dont
> know, but Poland is not The Netherlands and has some different interests.
You
> should think about it.
That's what my question was all about: do you see your future in cooperation
with Western-Europe or in acting against Western-Europe?
Henk Senster
Henk Senster
"Nikodem" <nik...@poczta.fm> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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>
> Użytkownik "Henk Senster" <sen...@wxs.nl> napisał w wiadomości
> news:b249in$8tr$1...@reader08.wxs.nl...
> > What the polish citizens attitude towards the foreign policy of their
> > government is.
>
> Here we have an old saying: Where are 2 polish people, there are 3
opinions.
> This should satisfact you I guess.
That's not such a bad trait. So I can conclude that the opinion of your
government is not shared by a majority of the Polish citizens?
> > Here in the Netherlands we wonder why Poland din't opt to become a state
> of
> > the USA instead of a member of the EU.
>
> Well, it's quite simple. As you now, Poland is in the Europe. And now:
USA -
> Unites States of America; EU - European Union.
Don't take it to literally. It was ment methaphorically and sarcastically.
> > Groeten,
> > Henk
> >
> --
> Pozdrawiam;
> Nikodem
> www.osiol.com
>
> PS. Sorry for my bad English.
No reason! I can understand you perfectly. And I am also not a native
english speaker so probably I can't see your faults nor my own ones ;-)
Groeten,
Henk
See_you
>> | government is.
>> What Your point is????
>> Do You think about Polish support in war against Iraq? Or buying F-16
>> or what
> Both. Cause at first we saw your governments sliminess with Germany for
> getting the EU-milliards. Wich have mainly to be generated by the
> Germans (and Dutch, Belgians and Luxemburgians) as the onliest
> nettopayers of the EU. Then we saw them spend those milliards for
> American wartoys. And now we see these same government attack the
> Germans from behind.
Hey, man.
You are simply stupid.
I know many people in Netherlands, but none is in 1% stupid like you.
They will have a lot of fun reading your e-mails...
>> | Here in the Netherlands we wonder why Poland din't opt to become a
>> | state of the USA instead of a member of the EU.
>> Here in Poland we wonder why people from the West are so smart. Maybe
>> You dont know, but Poland is not The Netherlands and has some different
>> interests. You should think about it.
> That's what my question was all about: do you see your future in
> cooperation with Western-Europe or in acting against Western-Europe?
Your stupidity is bigger and bigger, you even don't know:
who act against whom.
Thanks for a show...
See_you
See_you
>> Wow, you slander people as well as this Henk guy does! Good European
>> custom! But, at least, don't bite him (I mean: Not yet).
>
> Wise words ;-)
Just don't tell him about fastest way from Schippol to Amersfoort,
not yet...
See_you
Krzychas
> Both. Cause at first we saw your governments sliminess with Germany for
> getting the EU-milliards. Wich have mainly to be generated by the Germans
> (and Dutch, Belgians and Luxemburgians) as the onliest nettopayers of the
> EU. Then we saw them spend those milliards for American wartoys. And now we
> see these same government attack the Germans from behind.
Are you German, Mr Senster ? (In other words: Have you seen "The 5th
element", by Luc Besson?)
Another good example of european solidarity is Expo; UE countries were
suppousted to vote for Wrocław (a town in Poland, FYI:))); but you voted
for Shanghai (in China, Mr Senster:)))
Business is business, Mr Henster. So we purchased F 16, not flying shit
made in France, or UK-Sweden.
--
pozdr, Krzychas
<<...Rezultatem oddzialywania doktryny socjalstycznej na społeczeństwo
kapitalistyczne jest powstanie czego? trzeciego, różnego od owych dwóch,
które je zrodziły - mianowicie Państwa Niewolniczego.>> (H.Belloc)
Krzychas
> So I can conclude that the opinion of your
> government is not shared by a majority of the Polish citizens?
Unfortunately; in that case, of course. Empfinden Sie Genugtuung uber
diese Antwort? Go back to Holland.
Krzychas
> Obviously the old man in the Vatican is not the only Polish citizen with a
> dementing disorder.
I strongly believe, that majority of Dutch are not mentally handicaped,
like you are, Mr Senster.
Henk Senster
Cheap labor for several years yes. That's how economics work. We lose jobs
and have to create new ones and you get a part of ours.
But look at for instance Spain and Greece. Once, for about 25 years when
they were not EU-members I could spent 3 weeks holiday in those countries
for less than a one weeks Dutch salary at that time. Now it is almost as
expensive as in Holland but they have also a far more higher standard of
living now. That's right and it is how EU-economics work.
Groeten,
Henk
> Kol
Henk Senster
> ColgatesBilly <klinton...@icqmail.com> typed:
> || Henk Senster wrote:
> ||
> ||||| The statistics show 51% is against war on
> Iraq.
> ||
> || 51% - WOW !! .... This rings some bell..... (
> same ol` song )
> || Incidentally ::
> || who prepared or... doctored them ?
>
> CBOS
>
> |||| Actually the majority of the EU-population
> was against. Mainly for
> |||| financial reasons.
>
> Strangely the majority of the CE-population is
> against.
CE-population ???
But they've got a reason that's pretty
> real. EU-government and state-government-supported
> big companies of the EU utterly /use/ the
> pre-accession agreements to their own purposes,
> buying out what's left of our potential only to
> liquidate it afterwards to get themselves a bigger
> part of the EU and global markets. But this is
> swelling into a bang. It would be really good if
> Poland did _not_ access the EU at this moment and
> wait until this is all over.
I don't have the expertise to forsay what from an economic perspective the
short or long term consequenses are for you and for us of your
EU-membership. But I know for sure that most of the Greece and Spanish
citizens for the moment don't complain about their membership.
I am just an idealistic European who dreams of a strong, righteous, united
Europe.
> |||| But it was the German Government who did
> their
> |||| outmost to win our votes for your membership.
>
> It is common opinion, that this german "sympathy"
> for us was just a part of the great russo-german
> dream to divide Poland between themselves. I don't
> know, if it's all true, but I'm quite sure at
> least a part of it is.
>
> |||| And now we see this
> |||| german government with a polish knife in
> their back.
>
> You have to admit, that from the historical point
> of view, it's pretty adequate.
I can appreciate your feelings but I don't think it's adequate. I am born
after the war as a son of a resistance-fighter, who lost his brother/uncle
in a german prisonercamp. So I know something about the second world war.
But even my deceased father agreed with me that nowadays Germany is a
respectable country. Even far more respectable as for instance the USA or
Israel.
Groeten,
Henk
> SY
> Ewa
>
>
Henk Senster
"Krzychas" <krzy...@2com.pl> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:7e7uav9fxdjh$.3ez20pm0ronx.dlg@40tude.net...
Well, that may be the reason why they let me now for about 15 years teach
their future intellectual elite ;-)
Groeten,
henk
Krzychas
> I am just an idealistic European who dreams of a strong, righteous, united
> Europe.
Under the German leadership ? Strong? -maybe. But united ?
Obserwator z ramienia
> Well, that may be the reason why they let me now for about 15 years teach
> their future intellectual elite ;-)
>
> Groeten,
> henk
Apparently, THEY don't realize just who the teacher really is.
Perhaps one of my many good deeds would be notifying them of what the elite
is being taught of?
Or may I dare to say: Like teacher, like elite...
Walker
Krzychas
> Well, that may be the reason why they let me now for about 15 years teach
> their future intellectual elite ;-)
I didn't mean to upset you, Mr Senster ;)
But you wrote a bullshit. You didn't have to. Calm down, stay cool,
sleep well...
Henk Senster
> Henk Senster wrote:
>
> > Both. Cause at first we saw your governments sliminess with Germany for
> > getting the EU-milliards. Wich have mainly to be generated by the
Germans
> > (and Dutch, Belgians and Luxemburgians) as the onliest nettopayers of
the
> > EU. Then we saw them spend those milliards for American wartoys. And now
we
> > see these same government attack the Germans from behind.
>
> Are you German, Mr Senster ?
No! But I like them. At the first place their poets, philosophers and
componists. Just as I like Dutch, French, Spanish and Russian literature and
music and ...Liszt.
(In other words: Have you seen "The 5th
> element", by Luc Besson?)
No!
> Another good example of european solidarity is Expo; UE countries were
> suppousted to vote for Wrocław (a town in Poland, FYI:))); but you voted
> for Shanghai (in China, Mr Senster:)))
I don't know were you are talking about.
> Business is business, Mr Henster. So we purchased F 16, not flying shit
> made in France, or UK-Sweden.
Well if you have still some money to spend you should try also a Columbia
Space Shuttle.
And for the time being I drive a Swedish Saab classic and a British MG-B.
And as far as I know the Americans who can pay it, prefer German cars.
Groeten,
Henk
See_you
> Henk Senster wrote:
>
>> I am just an idealistic European who dreams of a strong, righteous, united
>> Europe.
>
> Under the German leadership ? Strong? -maybe. But united ?
Jawohl und Ziek Hail!...
Krzychas
> Well if you have still some money to spend you should try also a Columbia
> Space Shuttle.
It was stupid.
> And for the time being I drive a Swedish Saab classic and a British MG-B.
> And as far as I know the Americans who can pay it, prefer German cars.
German cars don't fly, Mr Senster.
--
pozdr, Krzychas
<<...Rezultatem oddzialywania doktryny socjalstycznej na społeczeństwo
kapitalistyczne jest powstanie czegoś trzeciego, różnego od owych dwóch,
eWa
||||||| Actually the majority of the EU-population
was against. Mainly for
||||||| financial reasons.
|||
||| Strangely the majority of the CE-population is
||| against.
||
|| CE-population ???
Central Europe.
Those were the good, old times of peace and
prosperity, and there was enough dough for
everyone.
Besides, AFAIK, all the western Europeans think
the East is a wild, virgin land of barbarians,
everlasting winter and where bears roam the
streets without their muzzles on. Now, who,
thinking such, would consider such a place right
in EU? Now Spain's advantage were warm
mediterranian beaches and loads of cultural
heritage, Ireland's was a relationship with
Britain.
|| I am just an idealistic European who dreams of
a strong, righteous,
|| united Europe.
So do I, believe me. Yet above all I am a Polish
citizen, who, whether she likes it or not, has
lived here all her life and who's duty is care for
the wellfare of her country.
||||||| And now we see this
||||||| german government with a polish knife in
||| their back.
|||
||| You have to admit, that from the historical
point
||| of view, it's pretty adequate.
||
|| I can appreciate your feelings but I don't
think it's adequate. I am
|| born after the war as a son of a
resistance-fighter, who lost his
|| brother/uncle in a german prisonercamp. So I
know something about
|| the second world war.
It's not /just/ the WW2. It is centuries of
neighbourly relations, the German appetite to make
Poland one of their marchs, and the complex about
not managing to achieve it.
|| But even my deceased father agreed with me
|| that nowadays Germany is a respectable country.
Even far more
|| respectable as for instance the USA or Israel.
I think the Germans are a whole lot cleverer than
they seem. It's never too cautious to stay alert
even when they favour someone.
SY
Ewa
Obserwator z ramienia
> Well if you have still some money to spend you should try also a Columbia
> Space Shuttle.
> And for the time being I drive a Swedish Saab classic and a British MG-B.
> And as far as I know the Americans who can pay it, prefer German cars.
What a primitive, arrogant simpleton.
Teacher? My ass!
Walker
Casper
Użytkownik Henk Senster
> Why do you ask? I use my real name as most of us here in the Netherland
do.
> But what's yours? Abraham?
W Holandii tez oskarzaja o zydostwo ;-)
eWa
Henk Senster
Sounds sensible. But I hope you have mistaken the situation.
> Besides, AFAIK, all the western Europeans think
> the East is a wild, virgin land of barbarians,
> everlasting winter and where bears roam the
> streets without their muzzles on. Now, who,
> thinking such, would consider such a place right
> in EU?
You are partly right. But the educated part of Western-Europe knows about
the great cultural heritage of Eastern-Europe.
And some ones like me have even a very romantic image of the East-Europeans:
the profound and mysterious Slavonic soul ;-)
OK. But be also cautious for the selffulfilling prophecy mechanism Ewa.
Groeten,
Henk
> SY
> Ewa
>
>
eWa
[cut]
||||| But I know for sure
||||| that most of the
||||| Greece and Spanish citizens for the moment
||||| don't complain about
||||| their membership.
|||
||| Those were the good, old times of peace and
||| prosperity, and there was enough dough for
||| everyone.
||
|| Sounds sensible. But I hope you have mistaken
the situation.
||
||| Besides, AFAIK, all the western Europeans
think
||| the East is a wild, virgin land of barbarians,
||| everlasting winter and where bears roam the
||| streets without their muzzles on. Now, who,
||| thinking such, would consider such a place
right
||| in EU?
||
|| You are partly right. But the educated part of
Western-Europe knows
|| about the great cultural heritage of
Eastern-Europe.
Well, besides the old parts of major cities, which
are really nice, all th heritage I know about are
ancient, decaying churches and chapels.
|| And some ones like me have even a very romantic
image of the
|| East-Europeans: the profound and mysterious
Slavonic soul ;-)
[ROTFL]
[cut]
||| It's not /just/ the WW2. It is centuries of
||| neighbourly relations, the German appetite to
make
||| Poland one of their marchs, and the complex
about
||| not managing to achieve it.
|||
||||| But even my deceased father agreed with me
||||| that nowadays Germany is a respectable
country.
||||| Even far more
||||| respectable as for instance the USA or
Israel.
|||
||| I think the Germans are a whole lot cleverer
than
||| they seem. It's never too cautious to stay
alert
||| even when they favour someone.
||
|| OK. But be also cautious for the selffulfilling
prophecy mechanism
|| Ewa.
No. One can never be too careful. Remember the
Ribbentrop-Molotov Treaty? They screwed the whole
world, placing their troops in Russia (they were
forbidden to have troops in their own country),
smiling the other countries away from the invasion
on Westerplatte, the holocaust and labour camps in
Auschwitz and Dachau. The Germans are no fools,
neither are the Russians. That's why you need to
think twice before you shake their hand and
consider them your friends.
SY
Ewa
xlmcn
> "Henk Senster" <sen...@wxs.nl> wrote in message
> news:b26vcs$ql6$1...@reader10.wxs.nl...
>
>
>>Well if you have still some money to spend you should try also a Columbia
>>Space Shuttle.
Sour Grapes.
Now I realy don't know. Have the Dutch xenophobes appeared here to complain
of Poles joining the EU or to show off and prove the Netherlands
is superior to the rest of the world?
>>And for the time being I drive a Swedish Saab classic and a British MG-B.
>>And as far as I know the Americans who can pay it, prefer German cars.
German cars are bought by those who like to drive
them, very frequently, to the mechanic's shop.
What they really want to buy is the logo, not
the car itself.
Fair enough, but this is more like a religion or collecting
jewelry and shouldn't be confused with something else,
like convenience.
BTW, it would be interesting to know how many miles
a year do they really drive in the tiny crowded Netherlands.
It might explain why they don't notice how frequently
German cars fail.
> What a primitive, arrogant simpleton.
> Teacher? My ass!
You see, some guys even try to point out
how superior German washing machines are.
But when you calculate their cost
it may appear that the savings aren't
worth the cost of the mashine.
So, that would be another case of buying
a mashine just for the sake of having,
not using it.
xlmcn
> Henk Senster wrote:
>
>
>>I am just an idealistic European who dreams of a strong, righteous, united
>>Europe.
>
>
> Under the German leadership ? Strong? -maybe. But united ?
Krzychas likes strongmen, whith handcuffs and whips ;)
The Netherlands should be a paradise for him, he could
even marry one (meybe Henk is available?).
Nikodem
>
> "Nikodem" <nik...@poczta.fm> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:b24fnk$nfp$1...@atlantis.news.tpi.pl...
> >
> > Użytkownik "Henk Senster" <sen...@wxs.nl> napisał w wiadomości
> > news:b249in$8tr$1...@reader08.wxs.nl...
> > > What the polish citizens attitude towards the foreign policy of their
> > > government is.
> >
> > Here we have an old saying: Where are 2 polish people, there are 3
> opinions.
> > This should satisfact you I guess.
>
> That's not such a bad trait. So I can conclude that the opinion of your
> government is not shared by a majority of the Polish citizens?
>
Maybe not always by a majority, but usualy yes. Here after '89 party who was
major in goverment don't have so many votes as earlier and is critisized a
lot. Election wins party with extremly different views, than it is
critisized a lot and same story as it was last time (i hope you will
understand what I mean).
In other words: Polish citizens critisize everyone who govern, and we are
chosing more and more stupid politicians.
> > > Here in the Netherlands we wonder why Poland din't opt to become a
state
> > of
> > > the USA instead of a member of the EU.
> >
> > Well, it's quite simple. As you now, Poland is in the Europe. And now:
> USA -
> > Unites States of America; EU - European Union.
>
> Don't take it to literally. It was ment methaphorically and sarcastically.
>
Ok, I agree with you, but i don't think USA want us. Who wants a country,
with citizens like here? (:-) of course it is more complicated)
> > PS. Sorry for my bad English.
>
> No reason! I can understand you perfectly.
Nice to hear it!
Henk Senster
> Obserwator z ramienia wrote:
> > "Henk Senster" <sen...@wxs.nl> wrote in message
> > news:b26vcs$ql6$1...@reader10.wxs.nl...
> >
> >
> >>Well if you have still some money to spend you should try also a
Columbia
> >>Space Shuttle.
>
> Sour Grapes.
> Now I realy don't know. Have the Dutch xenophobes
Another one in this thread called us the most racial mixed nation of the
world cause he saw three or four coloured players in our national
footballteam. And you call us xenofobes probably cause I was a little to
disappointed and sarcastically about the support of the Polish Government
for the USA and against the 'old Europe'. Ce que la vérité?
> appeared here to complain
> of Poles joining the EU or to show off and prove the Netherlands
> is superior to the rest of the world?
Holland is a nice country to live in. And I am glad to live here. But it's
pure accidentally that I am born here and for sure not a personal merit.
Thus why should I be proud of it or think that Holland is superior to other
countries? At the contrary: I like Eastern-Europe and in my heart I am
culturally far more oriented toward the east as toward the west.
> >>And for the time being I drive a Swedish Saab classic and a British
MG-B.
> >>And as far as I know the Americans who can pay it, prefer German cars.
> German cars are bought by those who like to drive
> them, very frequently, to the mechanic's shop.
> What they really want to buy is the logo, not
> the car itself.
>
> Fair enough, but this is more like a religion or collecting
> jewelry and shouldn't be confused with something else,
> like convenience.
> BTW, it would be interesting to know how many miles
> a year do they really drive in the tiny crowded Netherlands.
> It might explain why they don't notice how frequently
> German cars fail.
I don't know. I am greatly satisfied with my third Saab 900 classic from
1991 and 210.000 km on the distancemeter (and a MG-B as a hobby-car). Before
that, I drove Alfa Romeo's and long long ago even, ununderstable now, a Ford
Mustang. So I have no experience with German cars.
> > What a primitive, arrogant simpleton.
> > Teacher? My ass!
>
> You see, some guys even try to point out
> how superior German washing machines are.
> But when you calculate their cost
> it may appear that the savings aren't
> worth the cost of the mashine.
> So, that would be another case of buying
> a mashine just for the sake of having,
> not using it.
We have mainly Miele appliances here in the house and my girlfriend is fully
satisfied with it.;-)
Groeten,
Henk
ColgatesBilly
"Obserwator z ramienia" <obsry...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:3e46ffa6$1...@news.eol.ca...
A zatraciles juz ten swoj bialoruski akcent, bo jak piszesz
to tego nie widac ??
PS
i sie nie popisuj !!
( = showing-off )
Kol