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Jerzy Gumowski

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Subject: Taliban and Women
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 10:28:30 -0500

Recently, the editor of Chatelaine (Sally Armstrong,
ex Homemaker's Editor) was interviewed on CBC radio .
She had just returned from a trip to Afghanistan to see the present
state of affairs for herself, having been told the situation
had "improved". She stated that
the situation has deteriorated even further, as is
detailed in the following message. She noted that there has been a
worldwide outcry against the Taliban's recent
destruction of ancient Buddhist statues, far more vocal than any
outcry against the Taliban's destruction of Afghan women! With the
speed

and scope of Email, we can, if we persist, provide not 9,000,
but 9,000,000 signatures to the governments of the free world. Let's
do it!

Subject: Afghani women - If you decide not to forward
this, please send it back to me. This is an actual
petition, and "signatures" will be lost if you drop the line. Please
take a few minutes out of your life to do your part for our
sisters in Afghanistan .

Be sure to include other members of your household who
are willing to sign .

Oprah recently had a show about this atrocity and it
was heartbreaking. Petition to the United Nations
Background Information:
Madhu, the government of Afghanistan, is waging a war
upon women. Since the Taliban took power in 1996, women have had to
wear

burqua and have been beaten and stoned in public for not having the
proper attire, even if this means simply not having
the mesh covering in front of their eyes. One woman
was beaten to death by an angry mob of Fundamentalists for
accidentally
exposing her arm(!) while she was driving. Another was stoned to
death
for
trying to leave the country with a man that was not her relative .
Women are not allowed to work or even go out in public without a male
relative; professional women such as professors, translators,
doctors,
lawyers, artists and writers have been forced from their jobs and
restricted to their homes. Homes where a woman is present must have
their windows
painted so that she can never be seen by outsiders. They must wear
silent shoes so that they are never heard. Women live in fear of
their
lives for the slightest misbehavior .

Because they cannot work, those without male relatives
or husbands are either starving to death or begging in the street,
even if they hold Ph.D.'s. Depression is becoming so widespread that
it
has reached emergency levels. There is no way in such an extreme
Islamic society to know the suicide rate with certainty, but relief
workers are estimating that the suicide rate among women must be
extraordinarily high: those who cannot find proper medication and
treatment for
severe depression and would rather take their lives than live in such
conditions. At one of the rare hospitals for women, reporter found
still, nearly lifeless bodies lying motionless on top
of beds, wrapped in their burqua, unwilling to speak, eat, or do
anything, but slowly waste away. Others have gone mad and were seen
crouched in corners, perpetually rocking or crying, most of them in
fear .
It is at the point where the term "human rights violations" has
become
an
understatement. Husbands have the power of life and death over their
women relatives, especially their wives, but an angry mob has just as
much right to stone

or beat a woman, often to death, for exposing an inch
of flesh or offending them in the slightest way .

Women enjoyed relative freedom: to work, to dress
generally as they wanted, and to drive and appear in public alone
until
only 1996. The rapidity of this
transition is the main reason for the depression and
suicide; Women who were once
educators or doctors or simply used to basic human
freedoms are now severely restricted and treated as subhuman in the
name of right-wing fundamentalist Islam. It is not their tradition or
'culture', but it is alien to them, and it is extreme even for those
cultures where fundamentalism is the rule. Everyone has a right to a
tolerable human existence, even if they are women in a Muslim
country .

If we can threaten military force in Kosovo the name
of human rights for the sake of ethnic Albanians, citizens of the
world
can certainly express peaceful outrage at the oppression,
murder and injustice committed against women by the
Taliban. STATEMENT:
In signing this, we agree that the current treatment
of women in Afghanistan is completely UNACCEPTABLE and deserves
action by the United

Nations and that the current situation overseas will
not be tolerated. Women's Rights is not a small issue anywhere, and
it
is UNACCEPTABLE for women in 2001 to be treated as subhuman and as so
much
property. Equality and human decency is a fundamental
RIGHT, not a freedom to be granted, whether one lives in Afghanistan
or
elsewhere .

1) Giuliana D. Black, Daly City, CA, USA
2) Mariam Nayiny, Palo Alto, CA, USA
3) Sunaina Gulati-Ruh, Palo Alto, CA USA
4) Megan McCaslin, Palo Alto, CA USA
5) Blake Hallanan, San Francisco, Ca. USA
6) Kit Henderson, Sacramento, CA USA
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Marcin Palucha

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Oct 10, 2001, 6:11:58 AM10/10/01
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Uzytkownik "Jerzy Gumowski" <jerzy.g...@agora.pl> napisal w wiadomosci
news:200110100908...@gwxn.gazeta.pl...

> Subject: Taliban and Women
> Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 10:28:30 -0500
>
NTG

Ciach
Guma nie bylo Cie przez jakis czas moze bys tak dalej kontynuowal swoja
nieobecnosc podobnie jak MB ,jak niektórzy zauwazyli grupa zeszla na psy i
zaczela pisac o lataniu ,gdy was zabraklo. A ten post to juz szczyt
niektórzy maja modemy i placa .Naprawde malo mnie interesuja Talibowie i ich
kobiety ,podobnie jak wiekszoc Polaków zastanawiajacych sie jak dociagnac do
pierwszego .


Krzysztof Stacha

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Oct 10, 2001, 6:26:12 AM10/10/01
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Wybacz, Kolego, być może istotnie, Grupa to nie najlepsze miejsce na
tego typu posty.
Ale, Twój post też nie jest na miejscu.
Być może, mie będę wysyłał swojego maila z poparciem (bo nie wierzę w
tego skuteczność), natomiat gadki, że Talibowie Ci wiszą jak kilo kitu
sobie daruj.
Bo to Talibowie zainteresują się Tobą.
Pewnie jest mała szansa, żebyś zginął w zamachu - i dobrze.
Ale jest 100% pewności, że zginie ktoś inny.
Więc cierp do pierwszego w samotności i się swoim podejściem doświata
nie chwal.
K.S.

Tomasz Janiszewski

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Oct 10, 2001, 7:43:54 AM10/10/01
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Panowie, pax vobiscum !

Skoro jak ktoś zauważył Grupa schodzi na psy
i zaczyna być poświecona lataniu, to niech tak zostanie.
I proponuję, niech ten post będzie ostatnim w tym wątku,
bo inaczej znowu zacznie się pałowanie wzajemne i bluzgi.

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Agnieszka Piszczek

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Oct 10, 2001, 4:55:22 PM10/10/01
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From: "Marcin Palucha" <pa...@tele2.pl>


(ciach)...


>ten post to juz szczyt
> niektórzy maja modemy i placa .Naprawde malo mnie interesuja Talibowie i
ich
> kobiety ,podobnie jak wiekszoc Polaków zastanawiajacych sie jak dociagnac
do
> pierwszego .

Czlowieku, nie pieprz!
Przepraszam ile czasu Ci sie to sciagalo?!
Ulamek sekundy?

Pozdrawiam,
aga_Agata

P.S. Zeby nie bylo- ja tez uzywam modemu.

Pawel Cygarowski

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Oct 10, 2001, 5:22:57 PM10/10/01
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Jurek!, qurde mogles juz na
priva nie wysylac.

pozdr.

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Jerzy Gumowski

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Oct 11, 2001, 4:28:43 AM10/11/01
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Sorry! bałagan w archiwum adresów .


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