Importing DICOM Images from CD to Pinnacle (currently running version 9.0)
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viewer software along with DICOM files. My physician wants to fuse
the PET images but somehow Pinnacle is unable to load the images. In
the File Manager window there is a folder containing the DICOM files.
Does anyone have a way to achieve copying these images to import into
Pinnacle? I would greatly appreciate the help.
Kantor,Michael E
What I usually do is check through directories on the CD/DVD to find DICOM files, and then push them to the local listener using dcmtk.
Thanks,
Mike Kantor
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Rouse, Luther
Sometimes when radiology copies these it's not DICOM unless specified.
If they are DICOM, ver.9 should be able to download without any problem.
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requirements. Additionally, these CDs often use compression algorithms
that may not be supported by Pinnacle, but are DICOM-compliant.
Bruce Curran
Associate Chief Medical Physicist
Radiation Oncology
Rhode Island Hospital (401)444-6249
593 Eddy Street (401)444-5335 (F)
Providence, RI 02903 (401) 265-1303 (C)
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Mckesson pacs puts out jpeg images instead of dicom images.
Also, we have had issues with dicom image imports from just about every pacs manufacturer.
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For CDs that Pinnacle does not recognize, I load the images on our CT
Scanner and then push them to Pinnacle. This works for approximately
95% of the CDs I receive from outside institutions.
Wyatt
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How will I be able to tell if they are "truly" DICOM files?
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>Fyi, JPEG compression can be removed using dcmdjpeg from dcmtk.
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>They not only have to be DICOM files, but the CD must meet DICOM Part 10 requirements. Additionally, these CDs often use compression algorithms that may not be supported by Pinnacle, but are DICOM-compliant.
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>Bruce Curran
>Associate Chief Medical Physicist
>Radiation Oncology
>Rhode Island Hospital (401)444-6249
>593 Eddy Street (401)444-5335 (F)
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> bcur...@lifespan.org
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>Are you sure those are truly DICOM files?
>Sometimes when radiology copies these it's not DICOM unless specified.
>If they are DICOM, ver.9 should be able to download without any problem.
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>I have a CD copied to us from a radiology department and it contains a viewer software along with DICOM files. My physician wants to fuse the PET images but somehow Pinnacle is unable to load the images. In the File Manager window there is a folder containing the DICOM files.
>Does anyone have a way to achieve copying these images to import into Pinnacle? I would greatly appreciate the help.
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fellow subscribers. The following are the procedures I have
attempted:
1. I loaded the CD into the Pinnacle pc to add the images and the
system was unable to read the contents of the cd.
2. I loaded the CD into my work pc to FTP to Pinnacle. The DICOM
images transferred successfully to /files/network/DICOM (I saw a
population of .dcm files in that folder). I went to the Pinnacle pc
to add the images but did not see the patient's name in the image list
(provided I clicked on the Re-read button a couple of times).
3. I loaded the CD into the Pinnacle pc, the File Manager folder
opened automatically, and I opened another File Manager window to the
location of /files/network/DICOM. I saw that I have to drag each .dcm
file from one folder to the other individually so I abandoned this
process (there may be a way to move all selected files over to another
folder at once).
I noticed that the files that have populated the DICOM folder has two
letters, followed by 5 numbers then a . then the image number
then .dcm. The ones in my cd had a combination of numbers and letters
then .dcm (I couldn't decipher whether it followed a certain order).
I checked out the website that Yulong Yang provided. I wasn't
comfortable downloading the content because I don't know who has used
that product in their clinic. I did not understand what to do with
the "JPEG compression can be removed using dcmdjpeg from dcmtk." And
last but not the least, the hospital where the CD came from is not a
part of the company I work for. Therefore, transmitting the images
from their PACs to our network wouldn't be an option.
I have confidence that it can be done. I hope my fellow subscribers
would offer more suggestions. As you can see, I am willing to try.
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> There is an xterm route. Just find the dicom directory on the CD in the
> xterm window that opens when you put it into the Pinnacle CD Drive. Open the
> Pinnacle Dicom directory in a separate Xterm window. Highlight the images in
> the CD directory and drag them to the Pinnacle Dicom window. There will more
> than likely be multiple studies but you can sort through them in the import
> function.
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> > I will often ftp the appropriate data sets from a Windows computer to the
> > Pinnacle DICOM folder (not at office so can't give path). The CD's often
> > have multiple studies so it is useful to have the viewer running to
> > determine which set to send to Pinnacle.
>
> > Hobie Shackford
> > NorthMain Radiation Oncology
> > Providence, RI
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> > > From: beemernat <natlied...@gmail.com>
> > > Subject: [p3rtp] Importing DICOM Images from CD to Pinnacle (currently
> > running version 9.0)
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> > > Date: Thursday, September 23, 2010, 10:08 AM
> > > I have a CD copied to us from a
> > > radiology department and it contains a
> > > viewer software along with DICOM files. My physician
> > > wants to fuse
> > > the PET images but somehow Pinnacle is unable to load the
> > > images. In
> > > the File Manager window there is a folder containing the
> > > DICOM files.
> > > Does anyone have a way to achieve copying these images to
> > > import into
> > > Pinnacle? I would greatly appreciate the help.
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After this, you can selectively export that study to a folder and send that to Pinnacle.
In this manner, you don't need to be worried about what the file names are as long as the content is viewable by any of the above DICOM viewers.
This doesn't address the issue of JPEG compression as I don't know if Pinnacle supports it.
Adit
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We were also having intermittent issues receiving discs from our mobile PET/CT that Pinn couldn't read. I discovered that when the operator typed in the patients name they would sometimes put a space before the first name (i.e. White, Betty - as opposed to White,Betty and Pinn does not like this). I had to take the disc to a PC and copy the DICOM files to the desktop then open the header file and edit the name to the correct format (there are a couple of places that you have to do this, some are just spaces and others are where a '.' (period) is inserted into the space). You DO NOT need to do this for every image just a couple of places in the header files (for CT and for PET). I was then able to copy the edited files to a NEW disc and then load onto Pinn. This is laborious but easier than waiting for a new disc to be sent that may or may not be in the correct format.
Hope this is useful - feel free to call and I'll talk you through the process if you would like.
Elizabeth A. Shiner, M.Sc., DABR
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ftp://dicom.offis.de/pub/dicom/offis/software/dcmtk/dcmtk354/bin/dcmtk-3.5.4-win32-i386.zip
For example, lets say the program files are in C:\dcmtk, and the first DICOM file is D:\1.dcm
In a command prompt run to see all of the tags:
C:\dcmtk\bin\dcmdump D:\1.dcm
If the images are compressed then one of the tags will have something about JPEG in it, cant recall witch one, but you could then decompress this way:
FOR %i in (D:\*.dcm) DO C:\dcmtk\bin\dcmdjpeg %i C:\dicom_decompressed\%i
Then try to FTP these new files and check if they appear in the import list.
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Depew, Michael J
Hello all,
We recently upgraded to Launchpad version 9 and have encountered a problem with patient names that have apostrophes in them.
Basically, Pinnacle is stripping out the apostrophes and we need the patient name to sync with our R&V and imaging systems, which have the apostrophes. This didn’t used to be a problem.
Is there a way to disable Pinnacle from doing this?
Thank you,
Mike DePew
Kantor,Michael E
I suspect that it is stripping them because strings should be surrounded by apostrophes when entered into the Postgres database, and Launchpad just removes them as opposed to escaping them.
One possible workaround is to enter the actual name into the database directly. Suppose the last name of the patient is O’Patient and the medical record number is 123456, this query will set the proper name:
UPDATE "patient" SET "lastname" = 'O''Patient' WHERE "medicalrecordnumber" = '123456';
Thanks,
Mike Kantor
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Depew, Michael J
Hi Mike, thanks for the response.
We tried the SQL update statement to no avail. Even after directly editing the name record, we found that Pinnacle went back through and stripped out the apostrophe character.
Mike DePew