I'm making plans for the next month of development and wanted to hear
from you about which parts of the site could use the most attention.
I'm particularly interested to know:
1) What irks you in the site right now - bugs, misfeatures, etc.
2) What's missing in the site that you badly need to be a happy
bookmarker.
Please feel free to repost stuff from earlier discussions to this
thread if it hasn't been addressed, or if I made sweet, sweet promises
and never kept them.
Thanks!
Personally, I want you to make my project useless. ;)
Pummel, which takes your pinboard feed (could be any feed, really) and uses OEmbed to make it into a tumblr-style page. Adding oembed support would be cool.
More information: http://www.oembed.com
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Here's a few suggestions, in no particular order:
UI to force a refresh of an archived page.
I think you mentioned this a while back as a possibility: the grab-and-
go archive of unread pages for when you have a flight in an hour and
want stuff to read.
UI showing number of posts on u:user (i.e. total number of bookmarks)
and u:user/unread (i.e. number of unread bookmarks)
A way to reveal a little bit about yourself (e.g. real name, URL) for
people who end up putting you in their network thanks to the "users to
investigate" feature.
Make the edit post UI save when you hit return in a one-line field (it
currently does nothing, which means you have to tab or mouse to the
save button)
Make the tags field in the edit post UI a single line field like URL
and title
Archives of Youtube links don't seem to take a copy of the video (even
the ones that don't raise an oversize error), which makes the archive
of limited use.
Kind of esoteric (I am probably the only user who would find it
useful!), but it would be neat if pinboard knew about the arXiv
preprint server and took a copy of the PDF of the paper in pinboard's
archive when you bookmark a HTML abstract page, which is what I
usually bookmark (e.g. http://arxiv.org/abs/1001.1234). This would be
particularly useful in the grab-and-go scenario above.
-- Mike
Thanks for these great suggestions. One by one:
> UI to force a refresh of an archived page.
Will add that very soon. I agree it's a critical feature.
> I think you mentioned this a while back as a possibility: the grab-and-
> go archive of unread pages for when you have a flight in an hour and
> want stuff to read.
That is still up on blocks, but I hope to have it released soon.
> UI showing number of posts on u:user (i.e. total number of bookmarks)
> and u:user/unread (i.e. number of unread bookmarks)
I'll add this today.
> A way to reveal a little bit about yourself (e.g. real name, URL) for
> people who end up putting you in their network thanks to the "users to
> investigate" feature.
Peter and I have been thinking of allowing this on the user profile
page. We're terrified of making the site too social, but on the other
hand it should not prevent people from sharing some public info.
> Make the edit post UI save when you hit return in a one-line field (it
> currently does nothing, which means you have to tab or mouse to the
> save button)
I'll put this on the todo list for the edit UI.
> Make the tags field in the edit post UI a single line field like URL
> and title
I think we ended up with it multi-line because a supertagger asked for
the extra space. I suspect the single line UI would be most useful
to the largest number of users.
> Archives of Youtube links don't seem to take a copy of the video (even
> the ones that don't raise an oversize error), which makes the archive
> of limited use.
That's something we have flagged as an important fix to the crawler.
I think YouTube videos will properly render now, but the archived page
is just pulling the video from the original servers.
How soon this can get fixed depends a lot on whether a developer pal
flakes out on us again :-)
> Kind of esoteric (I am probably the only user who would find it
> useful!), but it would be neat if pinboard knew about the arXiv
> preprint server and took a copy of the PDF of the paper in pinboard's
> archive when you bookmark a HTML abstract page, which is what I
> usually bookmark (e.g.http://arxiv.org/abs/1001.1234). This would be
> particularly useful in the grab-and-go scenario above.
Oh, that's a great idea. I'm hoping to make this site attractive to
the kind of people who make heavy use of arXiv, so it definitely makes
sense to give the site special treatment.
More generally, we want to put in some special rules for various sites
(for example, auto-archiving the single page print view of newspaper
articles) to make the archiving feature as useful as possible.
I was browsing the user page, and realized that there isn't a way to add a URL manually from the website itself, or if there is a way, I've missed it. A link to /add would be sufficent.
On Feb 17, 2010 2:46 PM, "maciej" <mcegl...@gmail.com> wrote:
The problem I reported some time ago, whereby hitting 'Enter' in the
bookmark edit form dumps out a load of JSON on the page, is still in
evidence (clicking 'Save' works fine).
> 2) What's missing in the site that you badly need to be a happy
> bookmarker.
I find the search quite frustrating. For example, searching for two
terms yields the union of the search for either term, which would be
fine, except that I'd expect it to prioritise results in the
intersection of the two terms (it doesn't).
A "New bookmark" link directly on one's main bookmarks page would be handy.
An "Add note" link would be great too, and Notes would be much
improved by some more controls (delete as an option on the note
page?).
I'd like the ability to set all or part of my network public, so
people can see who I'm following and vice versa.
I'd like the default note description text to mirror the content of
the note, or maybe the first x characters.
I'd like to be able to subscribe to a tag's activity and be able to
view my subscribed tags in some central place. (Similar to delicious.)
I'd like the tags suggestions to be a little more robust. (For me
they're usually only about one tag.)
I'd be interested in seeing if the Pinboard "popup" bookmarklet could
use available information from the website to auto suggest tags
(potentially like a license or filetype or format), descriptions, etc
in addition to just auto suggesting the title and tags from Pinboard
itself.
Thanks for all the hard work!
I share this fear of mission creep, but it seems like if you're going
to offer a list of "These are users with a similar bookmarking history
to yours", the small public profile/URL is almost a natural corollary.
> More generally, we want to put in some special rules for various sites
> (for example, auto-archiving the single page print view of newspaper
> articles) to make the archiving feature as useful as possible.
That is a great idea.
I share this fear of mission creep, but it seems like if you're going to offer a list of "These are users with a similar bookmarking history to yours", the small public profile/URL is almost a natural corollary.
On 17 Feb 2010, at 22:58, maciej wrote:
A way to reveal a little bit about yourself (e.g. real name, URL) for
people who end up putting you in their network thanks to the "users to
investigate" feature.
Peter and I have been thinking of allowing this on the user profile
page. We're terrified of making the site too social, but on the other
hand it should not prevent people from sharing some public info.
No Copy to Mine or RSS on the Popular page. Oldest does't mark as read
as Random does.
> 2) What's missing in the site that you badly need to be a happy
> bookmarker.
A delete function on the Add page: When going through my Unread items
sometimes you want to read something once but decide not to keep it.
Hitting the Add bookmarklett allows you to add tags, but doesn't allow
for a quick delete.
On the mobile side, I want to be able to see the tag cloud.
David
Also, a longer "real" name, in addition to the username, would be useful.
Only one link? Some people might not have one personal page which
takes precedence ("Let's see... do I give them my blog, my Twitter, my
photo album..."
I think a list of links, each with a URL and a description, belonging
to the user profile would be more useful. It could even be done using
the existing Pinboard link-handling infrastructure if so desired. That
way, you could have something like:
example / Joe User
My name is Joe; I live in ___ and am into ___ and ____.
You may know me from ___.
http://example.com/joe/ (personal page)
http://joeexample.wordpress.com/ (technical blog)
http://flickr.com/photos/example/ (my photos)
http://last.fm/user/example/ (music I listen to)
Remember, the tagline is 'bookmarking for introverts'. Our focus is
storing, finding, organizing your bookmarks quickly and reliably.
We'll definitely try to improve the way users can discover other
users. Generalized profiles are handled very well by a variety of
services - our hope is to spend our resources on the things we do
well, rather than on duplicating features others excel at.
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Do you find you use single-line view all the time or do you switch
between single and multiple-line a great deal?
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Here's an idea, why not list all bookmarks the user tagged "me"?
On Feb 18, 2010 7:15 AM, "Peter VG" <pet...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 3:22 AM, PinnedDown <drm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I want more display options...
Do you find you use single-line view all the time or do you switch
between single and multiple-line a great deal?
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1. Better tag suggestions. I think we discussed this earlier. Prefer
the delicious way of tag dropdowns as we type instead of autocomplete
which assumes just one tag.
2. Better tag search. I know the tag and I want to search posts by a
certain tag. The Search box at the top, IMO has mixed results.
On Feb 18, 6:15 am, Peter VG <pete...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Feb 18, 5:55 am, Patrix <patrixbl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Couple of features:
>
> 1. Better tag suggestions. I think we discussed this earlier. Prefer
> the delicious way of tag dropdowns as we type instead of autocomplete
> which assumes just one tag.
I think we all agree on this as a desirable feature, but it requires a
large block of development time that I have not been able to set
aside.
> 2. Better tag search. I know the tag and I want to search posts by a
> certain tag. The Search box at the top, IMO has mixed results.
Can you be more specific about the kind of searches that are failing?
Does the global tag page, or your user+tag page, not show what you
want? Or is it a question of how to get to those pages through the
existing UI?
Thanks!
Maciej
No problem. As long as it is on your radar.
> > 2. Better tag search. I know the tag and I want to search posts by a
> > certain tag. The Search box at the top, IMO has mixed results.
>
> Can you be more specific about the kind of searches that are failing?
> Does the global tag page, or your user+tag page, not show what you
> want? Or is it a question of how to get to those pages through the
> existing UI?
E.g. I want to look for the tag 'mac' via the search box, I get all
bookmarks that are tagged 'mac' AND titles with mac in them. But I
wanted only bookmarks tagged with 'mac' (I can click on the tag and
get it but needs an extra click).
Also, I wanted to search within tags. For e.g. Within bookmarks tagged
'mac', I want to search for 'video' so that only bookmarks that are
tagged with 'mac' AND 'video' will show up.
All this may be possible in the current UI but it is not intuitive and
I have to workaround. The search function instead could ask, whether I
want to search title+description+tags or just tags. Then once you get
to a tag, offer an option to search within that tag as well.
Hope this makes sense. Thanks.
Patrix
> The problem I reported some time ago, whereby hitting 'Enter' in the
> bookmark edit form dumps out a load of JSON on the page, is still in
> evidence (clicking 'Save' works fine).
This should be fixed now in Firefox and Safari. There may still be
issues in IE8, I'll take a look tonight. Thanks for re-reporting it;
I somehow missed this the first time, and never tried hitting 'return'
myself.
I've also made the tags field in the edit box a one-line field, so you
can hit return in it and submit the bookmark.
Thanks, that's super.
> I've also made the tags field in the edit box a one-line field, so you
> can hit return in it and submit the bookmark.
Also an improvement. Much appreciated, Maciej.
Benedict.
I want to update the date that I bookmarked before.
sometimes I came across the one that I bookmarked some years ago.
but too old bookmark link is so hard to find out.
If I changed the date that I bookmarked before, I will see it on the
top on my page.
On 2月18日, 午前4:46, maciej <mceglow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm making plans for the next month of development and wanted to hear
> from you about which parts of the site could use the most attention.
> I'm particularly interested to know:
>
> 1) Whatirks you in the site right now - bugs, misfeatures, etc.
Others already brought up the features I'm most interested in: archive
refreshing and improved tag suggestion. The other thing I'd like is
for the inline editor to have tag suggestions. And a little bug I
mentioned before--hidden tags don't show up in the tag list, even when
you view all tags.
If I had my way, though, the top priority item would be writing for
your blog. ;-)
Cheers,
LD
Did this slip through the cracks, or am I missing something obvious?
Another suggestion: I particularly miss the username of the source of
new items in my Network RSS feed. Delicious does this (they also put a
lot of cruft in their feeds, and I'm not asking for that). It's useful
because I'm not as interested in some people in my network as others,
for whom I will open pretty much everything they post.
I'm looking through links tagged with 'ipad' right now, and when I
scroll to the bottom of the page I need to go back up to the top to go
to the earlier page of links. The navigation links (earlier / later)
aren't on the bottom of the page as well.
Just a suggestion.
1. Find-as-type search as requested here:
http://groups.google.com/group/pinboard-dev/browse_thread/thread/a969ec735e426c3b/dbbdebdea2779197?lnk=gst&q=fjordaan#dbbdebdea2779197
2. Please display URLs on bookmarks.
3. Can you add from:instapaper tags in the same way you automatically
add from:twitter? (currently just shows as unread) I'd expect all
automated bookmarks to have this sort of tag scheme.
I second this; I'd prefer to have them say from:instapaper.
I've been with pinboard only for a few days but like what I see and
will likely be fully switching from delicious in the next few days. I
do have a few requests, though:
1) A means of using tag intersections from within the UI without
editing the URL. Or have I missed how to do this?
2) An iPhone-friendly Add page on the mobile site triggered by the
bookmarklets. The current one needs to be resized before it can be
used.
3) Allow the two-column list of tags to extend further to the right as
additional columns IF the window size permits it. This would mean
less scrolling when using the tag list.
4) Access to the tag list from the mobile site.
I have to say first that I love pinboard, and I really REALLY LOVE the archiving, and the auto-bookmarking from twitter, instapaper, and google reader. That model is a very good fit for the way I operate.
I am pretty antisocial and so I don't really want any of the 'social' features that some others have suggested :).
However, a few things that I would find useful:
- As someone else suggested earlier, it would be nice if re-bookmarking an already-created bookmark pushed it to the top of the chronological list.
- It would be nice to have the 'copy to mine' links on <http://pinboard.in/popular/> too- that single-click model is very useful
- It would be useful if the auto-generated tags (from:notes, from:twitter) were 'live' and could be used to filter
- When adding a note (great feature), I would find it useful to be able to add a 'description' also. I find myself wanting some 'summary' text that shows up in the bookmark list. I know that I can edit the note after it is created to add description.
Something that my pack-rat personality would love but that I think is too hard-- some variation of full-text search over the archived pages.
I can't think of any way to do that without an unreasonable amount of effort though.
-Amy
and i would love to see stumbleupon as well!
cheers!
On Feb 18, 3:46 am, maciej <mceglow...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm making plans for the next month of development and wanted to hear
> from you about which parts of the site could use the most attention.
> I'm particularly interested to know:
>
> 1) What irks you in the site right now - bugs, misfeatures, etc.
>
> I'm looking through links tagged with 'ipad' right now, and when I
> scroll to the bottom of the page I need to go back up to the top to go
> to the earlier page of links. The navigation links (earlier / later)
> aren't on the bottom of the page as well.
I've just fixed this - thanks for bringing it to my attention!
On Feb 27, 6:05 pm, Michael Williams <m...@pentangle.net> wrote:
> On 17 Feb 2010, at 22:58, maciej wrote:
>
> >> UI showing number of posts on u:user (i.e. total number of bookmarks)
> >> and u:user/unread (i.e. number of unread bookmarks)
>
> > I'll add this today.
>
> Did this slip through the cracks, or am I missing something obvious?
Slipped through the cracks!. But I've just added it now, at long
last....
> Another suggestion: I particularly miss the username of the source of
> new items in my Network RSS feed. Delicious does this (they also put a
> lot of cruft in their feeds, and I'm not asking for that). It's useful
> because I'm not as interested in some people in my network as others,
> for whom I will open pretty much everything they post.
We include the source username for each item in the network RSS feed
already - is it not showing up in your reader? Clicking the RSS
link in Safari, for example, shows it's there, but I may have not
included the right RSS syntax voodoo for other feed readers.
There is infact a pattern. In NNW's combined view, if the
<description> field of an item is empty (i.e. just "<![CDATA[ ]]>")
the NNW does not display any of the other item info. I have no idea
whether pinboard or NNW is wrong here.
Great.
>> Another suggestion: I particularly miss the username of the source of
>> new items in my Network RSS feed. Delicious does this (they also
>> put a
>> lot of cruft in their feeds, and I'm not asking for that). It's
>> useful
>> because I'm not as interested in some people in my network as others,
>> for whom I will open pretty much everything they post.
>
> We include the source username for each item in the network RSS feed
> already - is it not showing up in your reader? Clicking the RSS
> link in Safari, for example, shows it's there, but I may have not
> included the right RSS syntax voodoo for other feed readers.
It's only showing up for some links in NNW's Combined View. I can't
see any pattern to this, and I can't see anything obviously wrong with
the XML (although it doesn't look like the equivalent XML served by,
e.g. delicious, I don't know what I'm looking for). It works fine in
NNW's Traditional and Widescreen views. I'll send you few screenshots
off the list.
-- Mike