Pinax social ecommerce

[bobhaugen]

Since nobody is interested in inventory, here's something different:

Who's interested in a Pinax social ecommerce edition?

"Social ecommerce" could mean a few things, including:
* a single vendor offering items for sale with social features like
reviews, ratings, discussions, etc.
* a multi-vendor site offering items from many sources, like http://www.etsy.com/
(or Amazon, for that matter).

Possible ways to do it:
* integrate Pinax and Satchmo
* or develop modular ecommerce apps - Pinax-style - like product
catalogs, inventories, shopping carts, payments, shipping, etc.

I may get very serious about the multi-vendor variation next winter
myself, but would help as much as I can until then if anybody gets
anything rolling. Or just contribute to the conversation until a head
design emerges.

[Brian Rosner]

On Apr 9, 9:06 am, bobhaugen <bob.hau...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Since nobody is interested in inventory, here's something different:
>
> Who's interested in a Pinax social ecommerce edition?

I am interested in e-commerce in general. It is actually what I do at
my day job. You can check out http://www.churchpartner.com to see what
I have built. I have been very interested in moving more things to
Pinax. The site's code pre-dates many things so it is all custom
built.

>
> "Social ecommerce" could mean a few things, including:
> * a single vendor offering items for sale with social features like
> reviews, ratings, discussions, etc.

> * a multi-vendor site offering items from many sources, likehttp://www.etsy.com/

> (or Amazon, for that matter).

I like the way you approaching this as "social e-commerce". These are
some features that I have not created for churchpartner.com, but my
bosses have expressed interest. There are other opportunities for me
coming up where this might be very beneficial.

>
> Possible ways to do it:
> * integrate Pinax and Satchmo
> * or develop modular ecommerce apps - Pinax-style - like product
> catalogs, inventories, shopping carts, payments, shipping, etc.

I think it will be best to take the latter approach. Satchmo is great,
but it competes at nearly the same level as Pinax. It would be a
significant task to be based on Pinax and maintain backward
compatibility with their existing user's code bases. Now, I can't
speak for them, but we would need serious commitment from them to help
or include our changes. Otherwise the solution will only ever be sub-
par (in my opinion).

>
> I may get very serious about the multi-vendor variation next winter
> myself, but would help as much as I can until then if anybody gets
> anything rolling.  Or just contribute to the conversation until a head
> design emerges.

What do you think the next steps are in your opinion? I am looking
forward to contributing to this list and definitely code.

[Joey Gartin]

I would be interested in this type of product and I wanted to respond to your email, but busy, busy!

 

I am new to Django, but have become quite enamored with it!  I have been meaning to deploy a Pinax (and a django-cms & a django-books) app, but again too busy!

 

Keep the emails flying I should be caught up soon and would be interested in working on something.

 

Joey

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Joey Gartin

[bobhaugen]

On Apr 10, 6:40 pm, Brian Rosner <bros...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am interested in e-commerce in general. It is actually what I do at

> my day job. You can check outhttp://www.churchpartner.com to see what
> I have built.

Yay! Brian, you were one of the people I most hoped would get into
this!

> > "Social ecommerce" could mean a few things, including:
> > * a single vendor offering items for sale with social features like
> > reviews, ratings, discussions, etc.

> > * a multi-vendor site offering items from many sources, like http://www.etsy.com/

> > (or Amazon, for that matter).
>
> I like the way you approaching this as "social e-commerce". These are
> some features that I have not created for churchpartner.com, but my
> bosses have expressed interest. There are other opportunities for me
> coming up where this might be very beneficial.

Which features are you most interested in? The single-vendor social
features, or the multi-vendor ones?

> > Possible ways to do it:
> > * integrate Pinax and Satchmo
> > * or develop modular ecommerce apps - Pinax-style -

> I think it will be best to take the latter approach.

I agree.

> What do you think the next steps are in your opinion? I am looking
> forward to contributing to this list and definitely code.

I don't like to write a lot of code without a concrete set of users in
mind. I will be meeting with some of my prospective users toward the
end of April, and then might have a better idea of the requirements I
need to meet.

In the meantime, if you have concrete requirements from churchpartners
that fit this category, I'll be happy to help you as much as I can.

Otherwise, one thing we might do short of having an actual project in
mind is to think about how to factor and link the set of apps that we
might want, and do some experimenting.

I tried a start at that with this post on inventory:
http://groups.google.com/group/pinax-business/browse_thread/thread/a360ccc379214d1a

There's just a sketch in that post, but I was following up on
jtauber's idea for a tightly focused reusable app to contain proxy
objects for external generic foreign key objects that might use it.

Then I watched ericflo and jtauber work on connecting topics to
refactored groups. They used different techniques, but they thought
they were complementary. They were focusing on the views, while I was
focusing on the models.

I think all of those techniques have some promise, but have not been
fully fleshed out, combined and tested. So when they get a little more
finished, I intended to try to connect their groups to a more detailed
version of my inventory app.

If you have particular apps that you can factor out from your work
that might fit into some experiments, I'd be up for that.

Or if you see some problems with any of those techniques, I'm
interested. I think we are all just fishing right now.