object vs relational db

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Raoul Duke

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May 26, 2022, 1:39:30 PMMay 26
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object graphs of references tangled makes for heck on earth for a programmer sooner or later, no?

should everything be fundamentally First Order Normal Form to keep us sane, damn the perf?


David Barbour

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Jun 1, 2022, 6:01:36 PMJun 1
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Objects are more about dynamism and late-binding than about performance. 

We could favor staged metaprogramming for dynamism, and model applications as metaprograms that abstract over primitive data types and effects. This would give us performance and a simpler model to grok at the cost of runtime dynamism.

Raoul Duke

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Jun 8, 2022, 2:33:17 PMJun 8
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by perf i meant FONF could be slow because joins are heck, more than implying objs are fast (ha ha). 

i think ending up with a graph is kind of deadly. we should be doing everything we can to avoid / minimize having graphs of references. and the graphs should be better wrangled through better everything: paradigms, formats, languages, tooling, ...

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