Re: Groups member

[Katsuki FUNAKOSHI]

Dear All,

 

Thank you for setting up our mailing list, guys! We can share infomation with it!

I'll send some references if i find something interesting!

 

 

舩越克己
Katsuki Funakoshi

東京工業大学大学院理工学研究科建築学専攻
東京都世田谷区奥沢7-24-20 広瀬荘103
Tokyo Institute of Technology, Graduate school of science and engineering
103 Hirosesou, Okusawa, Setagayaku, Tokyo, Japan
+81 (0) 80 3367 6882
 http://kfunakoshi.web.fc2.com/

 

 

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[ql Loke]

hey everyone,

so sorry for my late reply :(
senri here, u can call me ql if u find my name too difficult to pronounce :D
anyway, i think we should have a meeting soon to talk on our project. we can either meet up in person, or we can set a deadline to upload our ideas online and consolidate them.
i vote for online :D below are the tasks i think we need to settle..

1) Decide on the topic for our group project
2) Lay out some objectives and fundamentals e.g. target group, project flow
3) Timeline and task allocation

Do reflect if u have any comments :)

ql

2009/4/28 Katsuki FUNAKOSHI <katsuob...@yahoo.co.jp>

[Eri Otsuka]

千里さん

メールありがとうございます。
ゴールデンウィークも、もう終わってしまいますね。。。

さて、ちょうどテーマについて少し自分で考えてみようと思っていたのでそれをメールしてみます。
こんなことを考えていますが、みなさんのイメージとかけ離れているかどうか、
気になっています。
みなさんのイメージを教えていただけたら軌道修正しますので、よろしくお願いします。
I am so sorry it's not in English.

渋谷や原宿でOlder Peopleがとまどいを感じるのは、
　１．単純に、なじみのない町だから。
　２．町が複雑だし、店もすぐに変わってしまうので何度来てもわからなくなる。
　３．人ごみの中で若い人と同じリズムで歩けないから。
　４．町の雰囲気がなじめない。
という理由があると思います。
どうしたら、楽しく歩けるのかな。。。。
もしかすると、「自分はこの町に詳しい、いつも来ているところだ」と思えると
よいかもしれませんね。

テーマ
狭くとらえて「サイン」とするか、広くとらえて「ナビゲーション」とするか、少し考えて
みたら、と思いました。
ナビゲーションとする場合、いろいろなナビゲーション方法の中の選択から議論する
ことになりますね。
サインとする場合、デザインと配置を工夫すること以外に考える方向があるのか、
私には想像ができなかったので、いろいろ教えていただけるとありがたいです。
今は、テーマをナビゲーションにした方がおもしろいアイデアが出るような気がしています。
みなさん、いかがでしょうか。

Older Peopleについて
仕事としてそのようなコンセプトの製品の開発にかかわったことがあることと、
自分自身が徐々に近づいているので、情報をまとめてみます。
１．新しいことに対する適応能力が衰えてくる
　　　プライドの高い人などは、新しいものを使うことを拒否する人もいます。
　　　拒否しないまでも、すごくストレスを感じるみたいです。
　　　ただ、慣れたものに対する安心感は、年に関係ないかもしれませんね。
２．たくさんの情報を素早く同時に処理する能力が衰えてくる
３．目の機能が衰えてくる
　　　近いところも遠いところも細かい字は読みづらいです。
　　　白内障では、赤が見えにくくなるという話です。
４．耳の機能が衰えてくる
５．記憶力が衰えてくる
　　　ものの名前を覚えにくくなります。
６．反射神経が衰えてくる
７．体力が衰えてくる
８．だれかに頼ろうとする

ナビゲーションについて
自分はどこかに行くのに地図がないと不安です。逆に地図とその中の自分の
位置がわかればOKのような気がするのですが。
でも、地図などあっても見ない人もいます。見てもよくわからないらしいです。
これって、高齢化と関係あるでしょうか。
細かい字を見たくないけれど、地図は確認したいということはあるかもしれませんね。

Affectiveについて
ストレスがないだけではなく、楽しい、気分がいい、ということでしょうか？
来週のLectureで明らかになることかもしれませんね。
人によって好みが違うことがありますから、カスタマイズ可能ならいいのかな？
ただ、いろいろな機能をつけると複雑になってわかりにくくなりますから、
Older people向けにはシンプルさは欠かせないですよね。

今後、まとめるのに、すべてOnlineでやれたら助かりますが、うまくいくでしょうか？
face to faceのミーティングをするなら、5月11日の授業の前後がありますね。
その日に少しミーティングをしてターゲットを決められれば、まとめはメールで
できるのではないかと思います。いかがでしょうか。
私は授業の前は打合せ可能ですが、授業のあとは15:30からゼミがありますので、
あまり時間がありません。

では、よろしくお願いします。

大塚　絵理
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[supanut mungrakchon]

Hey

QL,,,if you have time, please translate it for me...

or call to me #103, I will run up tour room for listen ur tranlate. Haha

(or call to me via cell phone direcly.)

 

Dear all

I need to in from that I change my cell phone.

so my new number is 080-4086-2286 softbank

mail mobile is supa...@softbank.ne.jp

 

Hato 

2009/5/6 Eri Otsuka <ots...@ey-office.com>

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[Eri Otsuka]

Hato-san, Senri-san,

Thank you for your cooperation. I am very sorry that I have both of you take a lot of time for my e-mail.
I would write in English from the next mail, maybe next week.

[Katsuki FUNAKOSHI]

Dear All,

 

I agree with working on line!

 

Otsuka-san gave us her analysis of "Older People" and the difference between Sign and Navigation. That's really nice analysis as a basic study. We should share this points before Field Survey.

 

I have a question.
Do we have to decide our target group at first? is it fixed process by Prof.?  Because I was't there at first class so i just wanna make sure of it, sorry..

 

In my opinion, the target group is pretty related to what kind of navigational problem we are focusing on. So we should research the actual conditions at first and pick up various problems from Field Survey.
And then we can decide the target groups which are explainable and imagined from real problems. 
 

i think our project flow is below

 

1. Basic Study
Understand "Affectiveness" before thinking about the concept. Also study about Signs.

 

2. Preparation for Research
Pick up the areas to do Field Survey. As the professor said, the site doesn't have to be young place.
May be some problematic places for Older People e.g staion, library

 

3. Research
Pick up the navigational problems for Older People as much as possible from Field Survey. (of course you can do it individually)

 

4. Making The Specific Concept
Brain storming for making the concepts which are based on 3.

 

5. Design Study
Try a lot of shapes and develop the theories of design.

 

(This is sort of basic process of designing)

 

 

Concerning task allocation, i think all of us can work on research individually in our daily life and we can stock navigational problems. And then in the meeting we can discuss about each problems and think about improvement of it. We have a official Field work on 18th of May according to the class schedule so it maybe after that. Or that day could be for discussion, i don't know. we can talk at next class, anyway!!

 

 

Best,

 

舩越克己
Katsuki Funakoshi
東京工業大学大学院理工学研究科建築学専攻
東京都世田谷区奥沢7-24-20 広瀬荘103
Tokyo Institute of Technology, Graduate school of science and engineering
103 Hirosesou, Okusawa, Setagayaku, Tokyo, Japan
+81 (0) 80 3367 6882
http://kfunakoshi.web.fc2.com/

Eri Otsuka <ots...@ey-office.com> wrote:

>> To:

>> Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 11:10 PM
>> Subject: [pigeon09] Re: Groups member
>>
>>
>> hey everyone,
>>>
>>> so sorry for my late reply :(
>>> senri here, u can call me ql if u find my name too difficult to pronounce
>>> :D
>>> anyway, i think we should have a meeting soon to talk on our project. we
>>> can
>>> either meet up in person, or we can set a deadline to upload our ideas
>>> online and consolidate them.
>>> i vote for online :D below are the tasks i think we need to settle..
>>>
>>> 1) Decide on the topic for our group project
>>> 2) Lay out some objectives and fundamentals e.g. target group, project
>>> flow
>>> 3) Timeline and task allocation
>>>
>>> Do reflect if u have any comments :)
>>>
>>> ql
>>>
>>> 2009/4/28 Katsuki FUNAKOSHI
>>>

[Eri Otsuka]

Hi, Minasan,

Good morning.
Katsuki-san, thank you for your information.
The answer for Katsuki-san's quistion is "yes." Umemoro-sensei said we should define our own target group.

I also think we have to discuss what problems we are solving by our work(maybe by a certain set of signs?).
As I mentioned in the e-mail yesterday, I prefer maps to navigate myself. So I don't look carefully at signs. But if there are
effective and affective signs around, I may not need maps... maybe..... but I can't imagine now....... Maybe I should not be
included in the target group...

I'm going to think about situations and problems I have experienced, related to the theme, until next Monday.
Is this fit to katsuki-sans precess?

thank you,

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[ql Loke]

Hi all,

Once again, I'm sorry for my late reply. I haven't been home lately *sweats*

Based on what I've read above, I think we are in a very good direction now and everyone's trying hard to contribute. However, I think there is still a noticeable characteristic, in that we seem to be focusing heavily on the design of signs. From my understanding, "affective technology" is one that creates affections, so by focusing too heavily on the designs, I believe we are leaning dangerously towards "Human Factor Engineering". Instead, I think it would be better if we thought about what kind of affection we would like to create for the "old people". By doing so, I believe we can start off in a clear and accurate direction quickly. Let us also keep in mind that "signs" is one topic that we are open to, but it is not the only topic. This is because we have come across this topic while brainstorming without any concrete understanding of the term "affective technology". As such, this topic might have been chosen without considering that it might fall under a blind spot.

Let me list some other possibilities:

1) Dispenser Controller for Pet Bottles e.g. for dish-washing liquids
2) Easy-Grip Bottles i.e. harder to drop
3) Bus Route Displayer for the Elderly

Accordingly, they create...

1) Happiness due to ease of use
2) Sense of Security as they do not drop bottles that easily, thereby resulting in less such accidents which can lead to minor/major injuries
3) Satisfaction because the elderly can use buses without hassle

There are probably plenty more, and we can talk again tomorrow :)

regards,
ql (senri)