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I've setup my 'Line Tag Number' based on a clients P&ID piping tag (ie. Size-Spec-Service-Number) following a guide I found online after struggling with it ( -pid-and-autocad-plant-3d-pipe-line-numbers/).
I think I found some of my issues...on the Report Creator page there are (2) options for Data Source...default is Project Data which I assume there are some other drawings in there with piping I don't want on my report. When I selected Drawing Data and then selected my piping drawings that I want my data to come from it looks like it cleaned up the "unassigned" issues and just glancing at the report for whatever reason I have the right number and size SOLs on the line I looked at.
I have searched the web and this forum for help with my line number question but still can't find a solution. The problem is a customers line number format includes insulation, insulation thickness, and tracing type. Works great when the line has insulation but when it doesn't a "?" shows up like this XX-XX-XX-XX-?-?-?. I tried inserting "\U+00A0" in the selection list but it shows as XX-XX-XX-XX-\U+00A0-\U+00A0-\U+00A0 in the line number when ISOs are dropped and in tag line in the property window. If anybody has a solution to this please let me know.
I had a LSP that allowed me to click on each lot, which would automatically place the next sequential number. Currently, I have two that are LOTNO and LOTNUM which ask me to enter the first number, ask font type questions, and then asks me to enter a number irrelevant of the first number it asked me previously.
The wire number saga continues. Does anyone know why after I have placed a wire number as fixed onto a wire that when you then run the auto wire number for the remaining wires that some of the fixed items disappear? They are not renumbered and are fixed either side of a terminal VT1002 taken from the library before running the autowire command.
Look at the sample drawing you posted, at connector -P3. This connector was inserted set to not change the wire number through it. I can tell this by the WD_JUMPERS invisible intelligence on the block. However, the drawing shows a wire number, W1312H20-2 going into terminal pin #2 and wire number W1312C22-2 coming out of the connector at pin #2. This is incorrect since the connector is set to not change wire numbers through. Each wire has an invisible piece of xdata intelligence. This data carries the wire number block's unique handle. If the wire number's actual handle does not match the handle data on the wire, it is seen as a problem and AcadE tries to remove the wire number even if it is fixed. These wires are actually pointing to the correct wire number on the other side of the connector.
So, AcadE tries to remove the wire number that does not belong. However, it looks like there is some internal issue with AcadE removing these inline wire numbers and healing the wires. I still need to do some investigating on this. It may be because the wire number attributes are not at the wire itself, it looks like maybe they have been moved. It also may be because there are actually wires that meet end to end where this really should be one wire piece. But, anyway the wire number is removed but the wire is not correctly healed. Due, to this a new wire number is added on the wire number piece.
If you actually intended that the wire number should change through the connector I would recommend removing the WD_JUMPRS attribute value on the connector. If you double-click on the connector it should bring up the enhanced attribute editor where you can remove the value.
This will not solve the issue compeltely due to the wire number pointer mismatch and whatever is causing the issue with AcadE to heal the wires when the invalid wire numbers are removed. You might need to erase the wire numbers and fix the wires manually to get back to being able to run the Insert Wire Numbers command successfully.
Hi Pat! Will Drawing Audit correct the situation? I recently ran across an issue where a customer was using %S%N style ladder references with angled wire symbols. I created a daisy chain jumpering the common of 8 relay contacts. For some reason, and only with %S%N style rung numbers, AcadE was assigning a new wire number across some, but not all, of the angled wire symbols. I created this particular drawing and I know it was done cleanly, yet AcadE was assigning a new wire number across 3 of the 7 angled wire symbols. I ran a Drawing Audit, which claimed to find some bogus wire numbers. Everything works fine now.
Running the Drawing Audit is a good idea. However, in this case it will have the same issue as the wire numbering, it will remove the incorrect wire numbers but it will not be able to heal the wires. It looks like it can't heal the wires because the wire connection attributes fall too far away from the wire ends. At least that is what I am thinking so far but I will log it so it can be looked at further.
I have attached the resultant drawing after running the audit, removing the WD_JUMPER text and then runnign an auto wire command. Fixed wire numbers are being removed from either side of terminals and the connectors which should be set as wire number change components. I think this was the case anyway but for now will probably have to manually number the wires which can take on the %D-%S-%N style.
Not sure if the attached sheds any more light on the problem but I have deleted P3 and reinserted a new component with the wire number change attribute checked. Just running the auto wire number produced the same results as before with fixed wire numbers dissappearing. For the wire on pin 1 of the connector I deleted and rewired from X14-11 to pin 1 of the connector X1. I then edited the wire number as fixed and again ran the auto wire number. This time the wire number remianed as required. Hope this doesn't mean I have to redraw all my drawings in this project!!
If the connectors were inserted originally as "No wire number change" then this is how AcadE will treat them. Which makes the wire numbers on the other side invalid whether they are fixed or not. Also, if the wire number intelligence is not correct then running the Drawing Audit or re-running wire numbering will remove the invalid wire numbers. So just reinserting the connector will not make the intelligence on those wire numbers correct. It is still pointing to the original wire number on the left side so will be removed when re-run. And if the wire connection attributes are not on the wire then AcadE won't be able to heal the wires where these wire numbers were removed. So if these conditions are found on other drawings then they will need to be fixed for AcadE to function properly.
I am guessing that the wire numbers were added manually since AcadE wouldn't insert them automatically and because they didn't appear to match the wire number format for the drawing? And it appeared that the wires were manually stretched to accomodate the longer wire numbers which is probably what caused the wire number attributes to no longer be on the actual wire. When the wire numbers are inserted automatically all that is taken care of, the wires are adjusted to accomodate the inline wire number text length and the wire connection attributes are adjusted so they still fall on the wire ends.
So once you fix the issues, that is insert the correct connectors, remove the invalid wire numbers (use Drawing Audit) and fix the wires, you should be able to take advantage of the wire number insertion from that point on.
Again many thanks. Just a point to note regarding the wire number stretch issue you mentioned. I used the project wide utility to change the font size of the wire numbers. I dont really think this is a cause as it did this before I changed the font size.
Sometimes when I am working on drawings done by others I insert a wire number and it says that wire number already exists. If I am using the project manager and have 50 sheets, what is the quickest way to then find that wire number? I know you can export wire "labels" via reports but that doesn't give you the sheet number and is only really useful for importing into a marking genius type machine.
Click the surfer command on the Project Tools tab. Don't select a component to surf. Instead click over an area in your drawing where there is no component or wire. You will see a dialog pop-up with 4 possible search fields. Type the wire number you seek into the wire number field and click OK. The Surfer will return a list that allows you to click and Go To the wire number, wherever it is located in the project.
The title block drawing number is a field linked to the drawing property "DWG number"
You should not change the value "###" directly on the title block but fill in the property of the drawing.
Then launch the "REGEN" command to update this information in the cartridge
Actually, after creating a new P&ID drawing, you should go directly to the drawing properties and enter the DWG number so that your title block of the P&ID drawing updates automatically and the OPC connections should show the correct P&ID drawing number.
I am having issues with automatically inserted wire numbers on some occasions. I have come across a couple of other threads (below) that seem to be referencing this same issue but have not seen a viable solution (apologies if I've missed it).
Sometimes when I insert the wires numbers they are placed at what seem like random locations and I will need to click on the number to see which wire it is associated with and then align manually or with a lisp routine. I've attached a picture as an example. The highlighted wires were all inserted at the same time. The un-highlighted ones were previously aligned.
It generally seems to happen in instances when my wire lengths are short or there are a number of close components inserted into the drawing so I believe that Jim is on to something. I extended the wires and the placement was much better. Still not aligned perfectly but that's probably because the disconnect terminal block I created is larger than the normal one so the wire will have a different centre point.
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