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happy new year and thanks for the update :-)
i've been quite busy too last weeks and i have not used phraymd a lot

1°) about the Web Upload Plugin, is "Strip metadata" effect to what i
get with jpegoptim command :
jpegoptim -p --strip-all *.jpg
(the --strip-all argument to jpegoptim removes any EXIF/comments tags
that may be present)
If so, that's nice because i want to preserve my privacy (name of my
camera, GPS location etc) when sharing photos
BTW what about photo orientation ? is there any metadata about it ?
Will they be preserved or suppressed ?

and yes, it is cluttered ;-)

Todo List : maybe the possibilty to upload using FTP if user has its
own online space ? i don't know exactly if/how it's possible (i'm
looking for myself how to de-googlize (from Blogger, Picasa etc),
trying to switch to an online space that i would manage myself

2°) about Crop, Rotate and Image Writing Plugins

maybe all these tools should be gathered into one since it looks
intuitive to do all the edition at the same time and then save the
result ?
it's not obvious for the user to edit and then load another plugin to
save i think

thanks !

[Damien Moore]

>happy new year and thanks for the update :-)

Same to you. The updates serve as useful documentation. One day I'll use them to update the user docs.

1°) about the Web Upload Plugin, is "Strip metadata" effect to what i
get with jpegoptim command :
jpegoptim -p --strip-all *.jpg
(the --strip-all argument to jpegoptim removes any EXIF/comments tags
that may be present)

same idea, but done by writing a copy of the image without metadata (unfortunately this will be lossy as PIL doesn't support lossless operations). I'll look into jpegoptim.

 

BTW what about photo orientation ? is there any metadata about it ?
Will they be preserved or suppressed ?

the copy of the image is correctly oriented (I think -- if not it's a bug)
 
 

Todo List : maybe the possibilty to upload using FTP if user has its
own online space ? i don't know exactly if/how it's possible

yes it's feasible. People also use "gallery" for self-hosting (http://gallery.menalto.com/). would be good to be able to upload to those sites.
 

2°) about Crop, Rotate and Image Writing Plugins

maybe all these tools should be gathered into one since it looks
intuitive to do all the edition at the same time and then save the
result ?
it's not obvious for the user to edit and then load another plugin to
save i think

The advantage of having them in separate plugins is users only have to keep the ones they want. For newbie users, they won't even be aware of what plugins are activated they'll just see the functionality.

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On 6 jan, 18:57, Damien Moore <damienlmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >happy new year and thanks for the update :-)
>
> Same to you. The updates serve as useful documentation. One day I'll use
> them to update the user docs.
>
>
>
> > 1°) about the Web Upload Plugin, is "Strip metadata" effect to what i
> > get with jpegoptim command :
> > jpegoptim -p --strip-all *.jpg
> > (the --strip-all argument to jpegoptim removes any EXIF/comments tags
> > that may be present)
>
> same idea, but done by writing a copy of the image without metadata
> (unfortunately this will be lossy as PIL doesn't support lossless
> operations). I'll look into jpegoptim.
>
> > BTW what about photo orientation ? is there any metadata about it ?
> > Will they be preserved or suppressed ?
>
> the copy of the image is correctly oriented (I think -- if not it's a bug)
>
> > Todo List : maybe the possibilty to upload using FTP if user has its
> > own online space ? i don't know exactly if/how it's possible
>
> yes it's feasible. People also use "gallery" for self-hosting (http://gallery.menalto.com/). would be good to be able to upload to those
> sites.

As far as i'm concerned i'm planning to use a web hosting service and
SPGM (PHP script without the need of a database) http://spgm.sourceforge.net/?lg=us
(i'm also moving my blog to that web hosting service, using pluxml a
Content Management System using XML files without the need of a
database)

> > 2°) about Crop, Rotate and Image Writing Plugins
>
> > maybe all these tools should be gathered into one since it looks
> > intuitive to do all the edition at the same time and then save the
> > result ?
> > it's not obvious for the user to edit and then load another plugin to
> > save i think
>
> The advantage of having them in separate plugins is users only have to keep
> the ones they want. For newbie users, they won't even be aware of what
> plugins are activated they'll just see the functionality.

Waht about automatically activate the save plugin when an editing
plugin is activated ?

[Damien Moore]

As far as i'm concerned i'm planning to use a web hosting service and
SPGM (PHP script without the need of a database) http://spgm.sourceforge.net/?lg=us
(i'm also moving my blog to that web hosting service, using pluxml a
Content Management System using XML files without the need of a
database)

so you'd just want to ftp or sftp to the web? gnome already has a lot of built-in support for mounting ftp locations, right? should be easy enough to take advantage of this in phraymd with a modest amount of extra coding.

 

Waht about automatically activate the save plugin when an editing
plugin is activated ?

How about (a) showing a visual indicator when an image has been edited; and (b) have the image writer plugin prompt the user to save a modified image before switching images/quitting etc.

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On 7 jan, 18:15, Damien Moore <damienlmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > As far as i'm concerned i'm planning to use a web hosting service and
> > SPGM (PHP script without the need of a database)
> >http://spgm.sourceforge.net/?lg=us
> > (i'm also moving my blog to that web hosting service, using pluxml a
> > Content Management System using XML files without the need of a
> > database)
>
> so you'd just want to ftp or sftp to the web?

indeed

gnome already has a lot of
> built-in support for mounting ftp locations, right?

i think so, since Nautilus deals with FTP protocol

should be easy enough to
> take advantage of this in phraymd with a modest amount of extra coding.
>
>
>
> > Waht about automatically activate the save plugin when an editing
> > plugin is activated ?
>
> How about (a) showing a visual indicator when an image has been edited; and
> (b) have the image writer plugin prompt the user to save a modified image
> before switching images/quitting etc.

could be nice

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some tools to strip metadata :
http://developer.yahoo.com/performance/rules.html#opt_images
http://code.google.com/intl/fr/speed/page-speed/docs/payload.html#CompressImages