[EE] Looking for NE531 alternative

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Alex Harford

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Jun 21, 2010, 4:17:47 PM6/21/10
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I'm looking for a replacement op amp for the NE531 to complete some
boards on an old design. I haven't had much luck as it seems to have
been obsoleted around 1999. The client has a lot of PCBs leftover
from an old run, so a drop-in would be ideal. Perfect would be a
surplus tube somewhere, but I haven't had much luck.

The design is possibly older than myself, so much of the original
documentation is non-existent. The part is used in two places, a
unity gain follower and a half wave rectifier. I assume it was chosen
due to high (35V/usec) slew rate.

The pinout looks the same as the TL070 which seems more common (but
also obsoleted). Some parts have looked promising, but the offset
null / compensation pins were swapped.

- Power supply is +15V,-15V
- Incoming signal is ~30kHz

Op amps are not my area of expertise, external compensation capacitors
were new to me, so I've been doing a lot of reading up on the details.
I'm still working out how much of the circuit works. Any suggestions
would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Alex
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Marcel Duchamp

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Jun 21, 2010, 4:36:13 PM6/21/10
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This company shows possible stock:

http://www.questcomp.com/QuestDetailsAll.aspx?pn=NE531H&pnid=87744&stock=YesOnly

I've never used them and know nothing about them. I have used
partminer.com with very good success last year so they are probably
worth a try. Make sure you know the right suffix for package type, etc.

YES NOPE9

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Jun 21, 2010, 4:39:15 PM6/21/10
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> On Jun 21, 2010, at 2:17 PM, Alex Harford wrote:
>
> I'm looking for a replacement op amp for the NE531 to complete some
> boards on an old design.

Pin-for-pin replacement for µA709, µA748, or LM101

The LM301A appears to be a replacement.
They are 67 cents at DigiKey
Gus

Bob Blick

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Jun 21, 2010, 4:45:46 PM6/21/10
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On Mon, 21 Jun 2010 13:17:47 -0700, "Alex Harford" said:
> I'm looking for a replacement op amp for the NE531 to complete some
> boards on an old design. I haven't had much luck as it seems to have
> been obsoleted around 1999. The client has a lot of PCBs leftover
> from an old run, so a drop-in would be ideal. Perfect would be a
> surplus tube somewhere, but I haven't had much luck.

Hi Alex,

The NE531 in 8 pin DIP is available locally, I bought some recently as
spares for an old power amplifier I have. I can probably go to the store
on my way home from work today, I'll see how many they have and email
you directly.

Cheerful regards,

Bob

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Alex Harford

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Jun 21, 2010, 5:05:46 PM6/21/10
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On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Marcel Duchamp
<marcel....@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> This company shows possible stock:
>
> http://www.questcomp.com/QuestDetailsAll.aspx?pn=NE531H&pnid=87744&stock=YesOnly
>
> I've never used them and know nothing about them.  I have used
> partminer.com with very good success last year so they are probably
> worth a try.  Make sure you know the right suffix for package type, etc.

Argh, should have mentioned that I need them in a DIP package, NE531N.
CERDIP would be fine, so SE531FE/NE531FE would work too, although I'm
sure they are more $$$.

For alternative parts, I should have also mentioned that the signal is
going to be 7V max, no DC offset.

peter green

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Jun 21, 2010, 7:11:38 PM6/21/10
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>
> Op amps are not my area of expertise, external compensation capacitors
> were new to me, so I've been doing a lot of reading up on the details.
> I'm still working out how much of the circuit works. Any suggestions
> would be appreciated.
The placement of the main pins seems the same as a 741.

I wonder if you could find a more modern op-amp that meets the
performance requirements without requring any external offset null or
compensation circuitry and can therefore be dropped in (possibly with
some of it's legs cut off).

Spehro Pefhany

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Jun 21, 2010, 7:18:25 PM6/21/10
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At 05:05 PM 21/06/2010, you wrote:
>On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Marcel Duchamp
><marcel....@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > This company shows possible stock:
> >
> >
> http://www.questcomp.com/QuestDetailsAll.aspx?pn=NE531H&pnid=87744&stock=YesOnly
> >
> > I've never used them and know nothing about them. I have used
> > partminer.com with very good success last year so they are probably
> > worth a try. Make sure you know the right suffix for package type, etc.
>
>Argh, should have mentioned that I need them in a DIP package, NE531N.
> CERDIP would be fine, so SE531FE/NE531FE would work too, although I'm
>sure they are more $$$.

Can't you bend the leads from a TO-5 into a DIP pattern?

This company says they have some too:

http://www.4starelectronics.com/part_detail/NE531N.html?cmpid=2007

Qty In-Stock:
<http://www.4starelectronics.com/part_search/straightrfq.asp?PART_NUMBER=NE531N>76
pcs
Qty Available:
<http://www.4starelectronics.com/part_search/straightrfq.asp?PART_NUMBER=NE531N>12,058
pcs

>For alternative parts, I should have also mentioned that the signal is
>going to be 7V max, no DC offset.
>
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