[EE] Making PCB prototypes with laser engraving machine?

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Edson Brusque

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May 10, 2007, 1:02:58 PM5/10/07
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Hello,

this looks *very* interesting:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/40W-Laser-Engraving-Machine-Laser-Engraver-LOW-COST_W0QQitemZ170109337459QQihZ007QQcategoryZ46744QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

What about using it to make prototype PCBs?

Best regards,

Brusque

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Adam Stambler

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May 10, 2007, 5:32:18 PM5/10/07
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It does not look like it will work.

"It can engrave on Acrylic, Bamboo, Ceramic Substrates, Cloth, Coated Metal,
Composites, Cork, Corian, Crystal, Delrin, Fabric/Denim, Fiberglass, Foam,
Glass, Kevlar, Laminated Plastic, Leather, Marble, Plastic, Paper, Rubber,
Wood, Stone, etc. Cannot engrave stainless steel and metals."

Oh well.

John La Rooy

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May 10, 2007, 8:53:11 PM5/10/07
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On 5/11/07, Adam Stambler <ada...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It does not look like it will work.
>
> "It can engrave on Acrylic, Bamboo, Ceramic Substrates, Cloth, Coated
> Metal,
> Composites, Cork, Corian, Crystal, Delrin, Fabric/Denim, Fiberglass, Foam,
> Glass, Kevlar, Laminated Plastic, Leather, Marble, Plastic, Paper, Rubber,
> Wood, Stone, etc. Cannot engrave stainless steel and metals."
>
> Oh well.


But maybe it is possible to use one of the things it can engrave as a
resist.
Polyurethane or something else that comes in spray cans perhaps?

John La Rooy

Vitaliy

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May 10, 2007, 9:04:03 PM5/10/07
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John La Rooy wrote:
> But maybe it is possible to use one of the things it can engrave as a
> resist.
> Polyurethane or something else that comes in spray cans perhaps?

If you are planning to use chemical etching, it is a lot cheaper to use
normal photoresist.

Vitaliy

William Chops

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May 10, 2007, 9:22:43 PM5/10/07
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On May 10, 2007, at 10:02 AM, Edson Brusque wrote:

> this looks *very* interesting:
> [Cheap eBay Laser Cutter/engraver]


> What about using it to make prototype PCBs?
>

People who should know say that experiments in that direction
have not been very successful:
http://www.instructables.com/forum/EYXONSMRFGEUOJJOS2/

They also say that importing these cheap laser machine from
china is very "iffy", since they're not adequately certified
for sale in the US (there's currently a contest with a US-built
laser machine a a prize. Those seem to run about $6k for mid
sized units.)
http://www.instructables.com/id/E1DESIMF0H63N2Z/

BillW

Alan B. Pearce

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May 11, 2007, 4:12:41 AM5/11/07
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>Hello,
>
> this looks *very* interesting:

rather like the Versalaser device. I have been looking at getting a
Versalaser for our lab, but am told it would have difficulty taking copper
of the surface of laminate, to make PCBs like the LKPD milling unit does.
The laser is just not powerful enough, and fro engraving metals, there needs
to be a coating it can evaporate to make the pattern.

The UK agent for the Versalaser sent me a PDF brochure, where they have
"engraved" the company name on a chocolate log, already for presenting on
the table ...

Just the tool for doing "high powered" presentations ...

Cedric Chang

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May 12, 2007, 11:40:02 AM5/12/07
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>
> On May 10, 2007, at 7:22 PM, William Chops Westfield wrote:
>
>
> On May 10, 2007, at 10:02 AM, Edson Brusque wrote:
>
>> this looks *very* interesting:
>> [Cheap eBay Laser Cutter/engraver]
>> What about using it to make prototype PCBs?
>>
> People who should know say that experiments in that direction
> have not been very successful:
> http://www.instructables.com/forum/EYXONSMRFGEUOJJOS2/
>
> They also say that importing these cheap laser machine from
> china is very "iffy", since they're not adequately certified
> for sale in the US (there's currently a contest with a US-built
> laser machine a a prize. Those seem to run about $6k for mid
> sized units.)
> http://www.instructables.com/id/E1DESIMF0H63N2Z/
>
> BillW

What about using laser to form conductive alloy that has been printed on
fiberglass ? ( melt tin and silver together ? )
http://www.newscientisttech.com/article/dn11632-modified-ink-printer-
Cedric

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